Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I am still in favor of getting a tree shredder and when we capture one or two that we would normally blowup with bombs put them in the shredder feet first and video it and send it to the heads of terror organizations as an example. I doubt we would have to do much else and save a whole lot of lives and money. That is what they respect.

Sounds very Christ like. 

    Sounds horrible doesn't it? Almost as bad as ripping apart an innocent baby that it's mother doesn't want to carry. I know, I'm a broken record. But anytime I hear someone who supports a party that condones that, your concern for the GC falls on deaf ears.

You do realize there are people across the broad spectrum of political parties who support Roe v Wade ? I'm not really sure how it relates to the rules of war, but okay. 

[Alpha Dog]

I am still in favor of getting a tree shredder and when we capture one or two that we would normally blowup with bombs put them in the shredder feet first and video it and send it to the heads of terror organizations as an example. I doubt we would have to do much else and save a whole lot of lives and money. That is what they respect.

There has been a story around that I think took place in 1913 or 1914 during our ownership of the Philippines, that sprung from the Spainish American War won in Cuba.  There was a whole lot of terrorism going on in the Philippines by, surprise, Islamic fascist.  The American General in charge was Gen. Blackjack Pershing.  He had dozens ( story says 50 ) of the purported Islamic leaders rounded up into a firing squad line.  The firing squad dipped their bullets in pigs blood first, therefore denying the fascist of being able to attain the 72 virgin Nirvana they expose.  Now you will find supposed historians that say this did not happen, however the violence did calm down during that time.
One thing for sure - these folks  do not accept play doh and coloring books as a method to become peaceful.    Know thy enemy and plan accordingly.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I am still in favor of getting a tree shredder and when we capture one or two that we would normally blowup with bombs put them in the shredder feet first and video it and send it to the heads of terror organizations as an example. I doubt we would have to do much else and save a whole lot of lives and money. That is what they respect.

There has been a story around that I think took place in 1913 or 1914 during our ownership of the Philippines, that sprung from the Spainish American War won in Cuba.  There was a whole lot of terrorism going on in the Philippines by, surprise, Islamic fascist.  The American General in charge was Gen. Blackjack Pershing.  He had dozens ( story says 50 ) of the purported Islamic leaders rounded up into a firing squad line.  The firing squad dipped their bullets in pigs blood first, therefore denying the fascist of being able to attain the 72 virgin Nirvana they expose.  Now you will find supposed historians that say this did not happen, however the violence did calm down during that time.
One thing for sure - these folks  do not accept play doh and coloring books as a method to become peaceful.    Know thy enemy and plan accordingly.

Another example of if you keep telling the story over and over it becomes fact to many. "Supposed Historians" ?  Your bias is blatant.

[Robert]

Actually I love them and want them to see God as soon as possible so He can sort it out and show how much He loves them 

[Skinhead]

He said he enjoys shooting SOME people.  SOME people need killing.

[The emperor has no clothes]

He said he enjoys shooting SOME people.  SOME people need killing.

Actually I think he said "it's FUN to shoot some people" But he subsequently said it was a poor choice of words. I think we can leave it at that. 

[scooperhsd]

He said he enjoys shooting SOME people.  SOME people need killing.

And they aren't all terrorists. Some of our worst citizens fall into this category .

[Alpha Dog]

I am still in favor of getting a tree shredder and when we capture one or two that we would normally blowup with bombs put them in the shredder feet first and video it and send it to the heads of terror organizations as an example. I doubt we would have to do much else and save a whole lot of lives and money. That is what they respect.

There has been a story around that I think took place in 1913 or 1914 during our ownership of the Philippines, that sprung from the Spainish American War won in Cuba.  There was a whole lot of terrorism going on in the Philippines by, surprise, Islamic fascist.  The American General in charge was Gen. Blackjack Pershing.  He had dozens ( story says 50 ) of the purported Islamic leaders rounded up into a firing squad line.  The firing squad dipped their bullets in pigs blood first, therefore denying the fascist of being able to attain the 72 virgin Nirvana they expose.  Now you will find supposed historians that say this did not happen, however the violence did calm down during that time.
One thing for sure - these folks  do not accept play doh and coloring books as a method to become peaceful.    Know thy enemy and plan accordingly.

Another example of if you keep telling the story over and over it becomes fact to many. "Supposed Historians" ?  Your bias is blatant.

And your ignorance is overwhelming.  No laughy face here.

[Jersey mike]

I am still in favor of getting a tree shredder and when we capture one or two that we would normally blowup with bombs put them in the shredder feet first and video it and send it to the heads of terror organizations as an example. I doubt we would have to do much else and save a whole lot of lives and money. That is what they respect.

There has been a story around that I think took place in 1913 or 1914 during our ownership of the Philippines, that sprung from the Spainish American War won in Cuba.  There was a whole lot of terrorism going on in the Philippines by, surprise, Islamic fascist.  The American General in charge was Gen. Blackjack Pershing.  He had dozens ( story says 50 ) of the purported Islamic leaders rounded up into a firing squad line.  The firing squad dipped their bullets in pigs blood first, therefore denying the fascist of being able to attain the 72 virgin Nirvana they expose.  Now you will find supposed historians that say this did not happen, however the violence did calm down during that time.
One thing for sure - these folks  do not accept play doh and coloring books as a method to become peaceful.    Know thy enemy and plan accordingly.

many, many years ago, even before 9/11, I heard this story of Gen. Pershing, probably during the Iran hostage crisis.

several years ago it was running around again and I came across this from SNOPES. it's a pretty long report on the story and Snopes claims it to be false. To be honest I never know which way Snopes leans to the matter of truths or falsehoods or how much real research goes into their reports.

Well anyway here it is;

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pershing.asp

[old2soon]

Thee is Only one objective in War or one split into two parts. Kill the enemy. WIN the war. If the enemy comes back you failed the first part. When you leave the field of Battle the enemy SHOULD have no aspirations of doing it again-EVER. And what ever you do-do NOT follow a plan from l b js book of war. RIDE SAFE.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Thee is Only one objective in War or one split into two parts. Kill the enemy. WIN the war. If the enemy comes back you failed the first part. When you leave the field of Battle the enemy SHOULD have no aspirations of doing it again-EVER. And what ever you do-do NOT follow a plan from l b js book of war. RIDE SAFE.

I know LBJ gets most of the blame for Vietnam. I've always thought most of the blame should be on Westmoreland. How do you guys that were there feel ?

[Alpha Dog]

I am still in favor of getting a tree shredder and when we capture one or two that we would normally blowup with bombs put them in the shredder feet first and video it and send it to the heads of terror organizations as an example. I doubt we would have to do much else and save a whole lot of lives and money. That is what they respect.

There has been a story around that I think took place in 1913 or 1914 during our ownership of the Philippines, that sprung from the Spainish American War won in Cuba.  There was a whole lot of terrorism going on in the Philippines by, surprise, Islamic fascist.  The American General in charge was Gen. Blackjack Pershing.  He had dozens ( story says 50 ) of the purported Islamic leaders rounded up into a firing squad line.  The firing squad dipped their bullets in pigs blood first, therefore denying the fascist of being able to attain the 72 virgin Nirvana they expose.  Now you will find supposed historians that say this did not happen, however the violence did calm down during that time.
One thing for sure - these folks  do not accept play doh and coloring books as a method to become peaceful.    Know thy enemy and plan accordingly.

many, many years ago, even before 9/11, I heard this story of Gen. Pershing, probably during the Iran hostage crisis.

several years ago it was running around again and I came across this from SNOPES. it's a pretty long report on the story and Snopes claims it to be false. To be honest I never know which way Snopes leans to the matter of truths or falsehoods or how much real research goes into their reports.

Well anyway here it is;

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pershing.asp
[/quote

Snope Dog was not there, and fact is we just really do not know.  But we do know a lot of what did happen there as written about by Col. Wallace, Medal of Honor winner Col. Frank West, and others.  At times we did adopt the policy of burying a pig with a dead Moro's or Juramentado soldier. These were the extreme Islamic fascists in the south Island at the time that committed Jihad against American troops and others.   In fact Pershing wrote in his biography that by doing this "attacks were materially reduced in number by a practice that the Mohamedans held in abhorrence.   The bodies were publicly buried in some grave with a dead pig.  It was not pleasant to take such measures, but the prospect of going to hell instead of heaven sometimes deterred the would be assassins.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/261954/how-american-soldiers-used-pigs-blood-and-corpses-daniel-greenfield


Myths and legends usually have a kernel of truth, sometimes a whole lot.  Perhaps Pershing distanced himself from ordering it and a lower ranking officer did it.  Perhaps it was only 5 and not 50 and got embellished over time, but his sprung from somewhere and most likely American soldiers that were there.  To say it did not happen because Pershing did not write about it, well would you write about it.  We do know that pigs and pigs blood were used against the enemy there so this event is really not much of a stretch.

[Jersey mike]

That article was very interesting, so there does seem to be more than a little truth to the legend.

See that, you learn something new every day.

Thanks for posting the link, I appreciate it.

[The emperor has no clothes]

That article was very interesting, so there does seem to be more than a little truth to the legend.

See that, you learn something new every day.

Thanks for posting the link, I appreciate it.

You might want to check into the FrontPage mag and its owner David Horowitz before you take it as face value. 

[Alpha Dog]

That article was very interesting, so there does seem to be more than a little truth to the legend.

See that, you learn something new every day.

Thanks for posting the link, I appreciate it.

You might want to check into the FrontPage mag and its owner David Horowitz before you take it as face value. 

 And one might want to read the writings of the soldiers that were actually there including the ones I mentioned and Pershing himself.  His mag is not the only place to get history.

[scooperhsd]

Thee is Only one objective in War or one split into two parts. Kill the enemy. WIN the war. If the enemy comes back you failed the first part. When you leave the field of Battle the enemy SHOULD have no aspirations of doing it again-EVER. And what ever you do-do NOT follow a plan from l b js book of war. RIDE SAFE.

I know LBJ gets most of the blame for Vietnam. I've always thought most of the blame should be on Westmoreland. How do you guys that were there feel ?

Failures of a nation going to war (strategy-wise) belong to the POLITICAL leadership. Defeats on the battlefield belong to the MILITARY Commander for that engagement. Sometimes, the politicians insert themselves into the fighting of battles (against the best advice of their generals and admirals) and place unwise restrictions on the conduct of battle. THat should be a POLITICAL problem.

Now, about our affairs in the Middle East since Gulf War I - our presidents have done the right thing and listened to their senior military commanders about how to fight the wars (mostly) . The politicains decide what the goals are, and the military commanders execute operations to accomplish the political goals . That's the way it should be. War and Diplomacy are the opposite ends of the same spectrum of government action.

My opinion as a former officer.

[Rams]

Realizing Wikipedia may not be 100% accurate, if you haven't read Gen. Mattis bio, it is interesting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Mattis

[MarkT]

"It is well that war is so terrible, or we should grow too fond of it."— Robert E. Lee

Its probably one of those "you have to be there" things...

-Mike

I think Lee said that from on top of Marye's Heights overlooking the Battle of Fredericksburg.  Toured that battlefield among others some time ago.  Puts a chill down your spine to stand in such a historical place where thousands died at your feet.  The Bloody Lane at Antietem is like that.  And the country lane through the woods near Concord where the retreating brits were anniliated at night, close to where Paul Revere was captured.  I walked that lane at midnight so I could experience any ghostly apparitions. Felt like the scary nightride scene in the original Headless Horseman. It was eerie.

On another note, you can buy pork-infused ammo online for TSHTF scenatios.  Or you can just buy hollowpoints and stuff them with bacon grease.  Make sure the prayer-rug fans are informed of your ammo.



Lots of sellers of such ammo, here's the link for the above:
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/06/peace-through-pork-ammo-company-comes-up-with-jihad-proof-pork-infused-bullets/

[DirtyDan]

Thee is Only one objective in War or one split into two parts. Kill the enemy. WIN the war. If the enemy comes back you failed the first part. When you leave the field of Battle the enemy SHOULD have no aspirations of doing it again-EVER. And what ever you do-do NOT follow a plan from l b js book of war. RIDE SAFE.

I know LBJ gets most of the blame for Vietnam. I've always thought most of the blame should be on Westmoreland. How do you guys that were there feel ?

Failures of a nation going to war (strategy-wise) belong to the POLITICAL leadership. Defeats on the battlefield belong to the MILITARY Commander for that engagement. Sometimes, the politicians insert themselves into the fighting of battles (against the best advice of their generals and admirals) and place unwise restrictions on the conduct of battle. THat should be a POLITICAL problem.

Now, about our affairs in the Middle East since Gulf War I - our presidents have done the right thing and listened to their senior military commanders about how to fight the wars (mostly) . The politicains decide what the goals are, and the military commanders execute operations to accomplish the political goals . That's the way it should be. War and Diplomacy are the opposite ends of the same spectrum of government action.

My opinion as a former officer.

Carl Von Clause Witz...... on war, war is diplomacy by other means

Dan

[czuch]

The object is to lose as many of the enemy as possible, while not losing any yourself.
Everybody goes home, nobody gets a medal.
I've spent nights scared, jumpy, cool, calm, and collected in nasty jungles.
Shooting Bambi IS different.
I cant conceive having to get permission to return fire.
I can conceive giving coordinates to level the block/grid.
Get in, get going, be back by lunch.

[FryeVRCCDS0067]

I am still in favor of getting a tree shredder and when we capture one or two that we would normally blowup with bombs put them in the shredder feet first and video it and send it to the heads of terror organizations as an example. I doubt we would have to do much else and save a whole lot of lives and money. That is what they respect.

They have no respect for life, even their own, I don't think a shredder alone would scare them much. If they were shredded with hog carcasses, that might help.

[rocketray]

try on you tube...."Professor Pape...Dying to win"  but only if you want a Dept of Defense paid for study...

[old2soon]

I am still in favor of getting a tree shredder and when we capture one or two that we would normally blowup with bombs put them in the shredder feet first and video it and send it to the heads of terror organizations as an example. I doubt we would have to do much else and save a whole lot of lives and money. That is what they respect.

They have no respect for life, even their own, I don't think a shredder alone would scare them much. If they were shredded with hog carcasses, that might help.

                    Make a cursed big POINT of aiming the discharge chute into a hog pen.  Make a cursed big POINT of showing pig blood being poured on the shredder apparatus BEFORE use.  Someone mentioned the Geneva convention  "rules". If the enemy adheres to the "rules" all well and good. BUT If and When the stray give it em back in kind times how ever much we need too. v c didn't abide-look where it got us. No-NOT fergittin lbj. RIDE SAFE.

[Bronxboy]

Look what u started Pappy    Favorite Patton quote:


"War is the supreme test of man in which he rises to heights never approached in any other activity


And the best quote ever

The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.

[Serk]

He's now officially Secretary of Defense Mattis...

The first nominee of President Trump's cabinet to be fully confirmed by the senate.