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maybe all those very rich appointments will take their NEW jobs for 1 buck like Trump did? I wonder though if he will have to pay taxes on that dollar bill?  Face it, NONE of them need the dough, so why not man up and do the jobs for basically nothing? That would shut up the naysayers then....  That will be the next thing. Trump ran for President so he could only take a dollar in compensation for the sole purpose of AVOIDING TAXES! Congressional hearings will be demanded. He'll give the dollar back and they will scream HE ISN'T PAYING TAXES AT ALL! Speaking of his taxes. Do you think he will show his return now that he has won ? |
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« Reply #41 on: December 03, 2016, 11:29:56 AM » |
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maybe all those very rich appointments will take their NEW jobs for 1 buck like Trump did? I wonder though if he will have to pay taxes on that dollar bill? Face it, NONE of them need the dough, so why not man up and do the jobs for basically nothing? That would shut up the naysayers then.... That will be the next thing. Trump ran for President so he could only take a dollar in compensation for the sole purpose of AVOIDING TAXES! Congressional hearings will be demanded. He'll give the dollar back and they will scream HE ISN'T PAYING TAXES AT ALL! Speaking of his taxes. Do you think he will show his return now that he has won ? Doubtful |
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« Reply #42 on: December 03, 2016, 11:43:22 AM » |
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maybe all those very rich appointments will take their NEW jobs for 1 buck like Trump did? I wonder though if he will have to pay taxes on that dollar bill? Face it, NONE of them need the dough, so why not man up and do the jobs for basically nothing? That would shut up the naysayers then.... Not likely. They don't like Trump. Short of appointing Hillary president, there's is nothing he could do that they wouldn't spin negatively. That said, he should just say bless your hearts (or some other polite way of saying f off) and not waste time trying to placate his detractors. -RP |
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« Reply #43 on: December 03, 2016, 11:59:54 AM » |
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maybe all those very rich appointments will take their NEW jobs for 1 buck like Trump did? I wonder though if he will have to pay taxes on that dollar bill? Face it, NONE of them need the dough, so why not man up and do the jobs for basically nothing? That would shut up the naysayers then.... That will be the next thing. Trump ran for President so he could only take a dollar in compensation for the sole purpose of AVOIDING TAXES! Congressional hearings will be demanded. He'll give the dollar back and they will scream HE ISN'T PAYING TAXES AT ALL! Speaking of his taxes. Do you think he will show his return now that he has won ? Not sure what winning has to do with this but I would think if there were an issue with his tax returns the IRS would have acted on it by now don't you think? |
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« Reply #44 on: December 03, 2016, 12:58:47 PM » |
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maybe all those very rich appointments will take their NEW jobs for 1 buck like Trump did? I wonder though if he will have to pay taxes on that dollar bill? Face it, NONE of them need the dough, so why not man up and do the jobs for basically nothing? That would shut up the naysayers then.... That will be the next thing. Trump ran for President so he could only take a dollar in compensation for the sole purpose of AVOIDING TAXES! Congressional hearings will be demanded. He'll give the dollar back and they will scream HE ISN'T PAYING TAXES AT ALL! Speaking of his taxes. Do you think he will show his return now that he has won ? Not sure what winning has to do with this but I would think if there were an issue with his tax returns the IRS would have acted on it by now don't you think? It has nothing to do with winning. I'm just wondering if he will put out his returns now ? |
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« Reply #45 on: December 03, 2016, 01:08:29 PM » |
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How long did it take for someone else to show the birth certificate ?
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« Reply #46 on: December 03, 2016, 03:16:19 PM » |
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« Reply #47 on: December 03, 2016, 04:45:02 PM » |
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That will be the next thing. Trump ran for President so he could only take a dollar in compensation for the sole purpose of AVOIDING TAXES! Congressional hearings will be demanded. He'll give the dollar back and they will scream HE ISN'T PAYING TAXES AT ALL!
I'm sure you're being facetious, but let's suggest some logic for those who might take that thought seriously. There is no place at which the tax rate rises to or above 100%.  For a person to avoid receiving income solely for the purpose of avoiding taxes makes absolutely no sense at all. If someone declines pay it must be for some reason other than avoiding taxes. |
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« Reply #48 on: December 03, 2016, 04:50:14 PM » |
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Willow, where have I said anything negative about trump? i told you I was giving him a chance, and I am. Am I not 'allowed' to have an opinion on the people he wants to have as his closest advisers? Especially the crew that he's selected so far. He couldn't have picked a worse bunch if he tried.
I've had dozens of opportunities to comment on Trump, but haven't. It's not easy, let me tell ya. Baldo, my friend, if you are not capable of recognizing the constant negative flow of your communication here then there is nothing I can say that would help you out. You are, of course, allowed to have any opinion you choose but to express a negative opinion before the man has take office is, in my opinion, inconsistent with a commitment to "give him a chance". |
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« Reply #49 on: December 04, 2016, 02:08:45 AM » |
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That will be the next thing. Trump ran for President so he could only take a dollar in compensation for the sole purpose of AVOIDING TAXES! Congressional hearings will be demanded. He'll give the dollar back and they will scream HE ISN'T PAYING TAXES AT ALL!
I'm sure you're being facetious, but let's suggest some logic for those who might take that thought seriously. There is no place at which the tax rate rises to or above 100%. For a person to avoid receiving income solely for the purpose of avoiding taxes makes absolutely no sense at all. If someone declines pay it must be for some reason other than avoiding taxes. It's true. I heard it on CNN.  |
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« Reply #50 on: December 04, 2016, 05:27:35 AM » |
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I believe Trump isn't taking any salary so he doesn't leave himself open to public scrutiny of his taxes as President.
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« Reply #51 on: December 04, 2016, 07:14:45 AM » |
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Speaking of his taxes. Do you think he will show his return now that he has won ?
I'll start worrying about that when the current occupier of our White House releases his college transcripts... (Yeah yeah yeah, not the president much longer, etc. etc. etc...) |
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« Reply #52 on: December 04, 2016, 07:23:48 AM » |
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Speaking of his taxes. Do you think he will show his return now that he has won ?
I'll start worrying about that when the current occupier of our White House releases his college transcripts... (Yeah yeah yeah, not the president much longer, etc. etc. etc...) And birth certificate?  that outta get a liberal or 2 going.  |
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« Reply #53 on: December 04, 2016, 07:40:16 AM » |
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Speaking of his taxes. Do you think he will show his return now that he has won ?
I'll start worrying about that when the current occupier of our White House releases his college transcripts... (Yeah yeah yeah, not the president much longer, etc. etc. etc...) I'm not sure how you equate college records with tax records. But ok, I get it. You don't care. |
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« Reply #54 on: December 04, 2016, 08:12:11 AM » |
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Trump and I are a lot alike, except for our bank accounts. I don't like jumping through hoops, especially other peoples hoops. In fact Obama is much the same, he said he would conduct the most open administration ever, transparency he said. Then it was close ranks and that was that.
So I am quite happy he his holding onto his returns. Anything that gets under the skin of liberal minded folks is ok with me. Everything except breathe that Obama did got under my skin and something tells me it will continue to do so after he leaves the Whitehouse.
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« Reply #55 on: December 04, 2016, 08:48:45 AM » |
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I have never ever seen what is important about a tax return for an office holder and that includes any of them in any position over my lifetime. Of course I do not believe in any income tax and neither did the founding Fathers and explicitly put it into the constitution, of course until The Creature From Jekyl Island raised its ugly head. I have never analyzed any of them. I never saw Mr. O's and it was never important for anyone that I remember. It is just another avenue to nit pik about usually nothing. Trump did submit an appx 100 page financial disclosure statement about the time he decided to run that shows a closer picture of what ones net worth is, if that is important. But this is me. Perhaps for some it is important. I doubt you will ever see one from him.
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« Reply #56 on: December 04, 2016, 02:09:27 PM » |
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I have never ever seen what is important about a tax return for an office holder and that includes any of them in any position over my lifetime. Of course I do not believe in any income tax and neither did the founding Fathers and explicitly put it into the constitution, of course until The Creature From Jekyl Island raised its ugly head. I have never analyzed any of them. I never saw Mr. O's and it was never important for anyone that I remember. It is just another avenue to nit pik about usually nothing. Trump did submit an appx 100 page financial disclosure statement about the time he decided to run that shows a closer picture of what ones net worth is, if that is important. But this is me. Perhaps for some it is important. I doubt you will ever see one from him.
The financial disclosure does not give a clearer picture of his finances. What I see as important about a Presidents, Senators, Represenatives Income Tax Return are 2 fold. 1) It gives a little insight into possible conflicts of interest. If he is indebted to foreign banks it is important. 2) If he has not paid taxes while making millions of dollars that's his commitment to our country and its security. If it is the case that much of his business is financed by Russian associates of Putin, wouldn't you want to be aware of that ? |
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« Reply #57 on: December 04, 2016, 02:29:53 PM » |
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I have never ever seen what is important about a tax return for an office holder and that includes any of them in any position over my lifetime. Of course I do not believe in any income tax and neither did the founding Fathers and explicitly put it into the constitution, of course until The Creature From Jekyl Island raised its ugly head. I have never analyzed any of them. I never saw Mr. O's and it was never important for anyone that I remember. It is just another avenue to nit pik about usually nothing. Trump did submit an appx 100 page financial disclosure statement about the time he decided to run that shows a closer picture of what ones net worth is, if that is important. But this is me. Perhaps for some it is important. I doubt you will ever see one from him.
The financial disclosure does not give a clearer picture of his finances. What I see as important about a Presidents, Senators, Represenatives Income Tax Return are 2 fold. 1) It gives a little insight into possible conflicts of interest. If he is indebted to foreign banks it is important. 2) If he has not paid taxes while making millions of dollars that's his commitment to our country and its security. If it is the case that much of his business is financed by Russian associates of Putin, wouldn't you want to be aware of that ? No more so than we would want to know if a presidential candidate were pretending to be something he is not. Such information might be provided by university records, tax records or believable birth records. Sometimes we just have to settle for not getting all the information that we think might change the alleged minds of the opposition. then again almost any personal information released to the public has about a ninety to ten chance of being twisted or presented negatively by the press, the opposition. If I were making the decision and in Mr. trump's position I would keep everything that I could to myself. At this point he is in a position to be judged by his actions and not by viewpoints about his past. As to whether he has or hasn't paid taxes on his income, the government provides tax breaks for what is supposed to have benefited other than paying taxes. Everyone who doesn't get those breaks thinks they are unfair but no one thinks the breaks that he gets are unfair. Show me a man who chose not to take his personal exemption or perhaps business expenses reduction. I'm guessing a welfare recipient may not find my tax records encouraging. I have taken advantage of what I could to reduce my tax burden and I am a patriot. |
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I have never ever seen what is important about a tax return for an office holder and that includes any of them in any position over my lifetime. Of course I do not believe in any income tax and neither did the founding Fathers and explicitly put it into the constitution, of course until The Creature From Jekyl Island raised its ugly head. I have never analyzed any of them. I never saw Mr. O's and it was never important for anyone that I remember. It is just another avenue to nit pik about usually nothing. Trump did submit an appx 100 page financial disclosure statement about the time he decided to run that shows a closer picture of what ones net worth is, if that is important. But this is me. Perhaps for some it is important. I doubt you will ever see one from him.
The financial disclosure does not give a clearer picture of his finances. What I see as important about a Presidents, Senators, Represenatives Income Tax Return are 2 fold. 1) It gives a little insight into possible conflicts of interest. If he is indebted to foreign banks it is important. 2) If he has not paid taxes while making millions of dollars that's his commitment to our country and its security. If it is the case that much of his business is financed by Russian associates of Putin, wouldn't you want to be aware of that ? No more so than we would want to know if a presidential candidate were pretending to be something he is not. Such information might be provided by university records, tax records or believable birth records. Sometimes we just have to settle for not getting all the information that we think might change the alleged minds of the opposition. then again almost any personal information released to the public has about a ninety to ten chance of being twisted or presented negatively by the press, the opposition. If I were making the decision and in Mr. trump's position I would keep everything that I could to myself. At this point he is in a position to be judged by his actions and not by viewpoints about his past. As to whether he has or hasn't paid taxes on his income, the government provides tax breaks for what is supposed to have benefited other than paying taxes. Everyone who doesn't get those breaks thinks they are unfair but no one thinks the breaks that he gets are unfair. Show me a man who chose not to take his personal exemption or perhaps business expenses reduction. I'm guessing a welfare recipient may not find my tax records encouraging. I have taken advantage of what I could to reduce my tax burden and I am a patriot. I am pretty sure you are right about not getting the info. But even if you are correct about Obama being a Manchurian candidate who is secretly a Muslim born in Kenya who never went to college. Wouldn't the expression we were taught as kids "2 wrongs don't make a right" be applicable here ? |
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« Reply #59 on: December 04, 2016, 03:28:13 PM » |
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Two wrongs don't make a right..... interesting
Positive times positive is positive
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« Reply #61 on: December 04, 2016, 04:28:25 PM » |
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Meathead, you're not one of those nutty 'taxers' are you?
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« Reply #62 on: December 04, 2016, 04:33:51 PM » |
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Meathead, you're not one of those nutty 'taxers' are you?
Sorry, couldn't resist.
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« Reply #63 on: December 04, 2016, 05:17:01 PM » |
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No more so than we would want to know if a presidential candidate were pretending to be something he is not. Such information might be provided by university records, tax records or believable birth records.
Sometimes we just have to settle for not getting all the information that we think might change the alleged minds of the opposition. then again almost any personal information released to the public has about a ninety to ten chance of being twisted or presented negatively by the press, the opposition. If I were making the decision and in Mr. trump's position I would keep everything that I could to myself. At this point he is in a position to be judged by his actions and not by viewpoints about his past.
As to whether he has or hasn't paid taxes on his income, the government provides tax breaks for what is supposed to have benefited other than paying taxes. Everyone who doesn't get those breaks thinks they are unfair but no one thinks the breaks that he gets are unfair. Show me a man who chose not to take his personal exemption or perhaps business expenses reduction. I'm guessing a welfare recipient may not find my tax records encouraging. I have taken advantage of what I could to reduce my tax burden and I am a patriot.
... But even if you are correct about Obama being a Manchurian candidate who is secretly a Muslim born in Kenya who never went to college. Wouldn't the expression we were taught as kids "2 wrongs don't make a right" be applicable here ? I'm not sure how you drew your conclusions about what I think. Two wrongs? I didn't say either was wrong. You asked whether we cared about something. I simply drew a "no more than" comparison. I didn't justify Mr. Trump's failure to release based upon. I simply outright said I think I wouldn't either. That would reduce us to no more than one wrong in my eyes. I don't think Mr. Obama is a Manchurian candidate. I don't necessarily believe he is a muslim. I believe strongly that he is at least a muslim sympathizer.I do believe he went to the university. I just wonder what needs to be hidden about his experience at the universities. I do think he is pretending to be something that he has not been. I think he is very unpresidential in his behavior. I am encouraged that the recent election has expressed this dissatisfaction of middle America with his and the Democrat congress's agenda. Even if I am correct? Odd. I've never had any doubts in that area. I do not have unchangeable convictions about the near future. I try to keep my ifs open when needed. I like to be right even when everyone else is wrong, maybe especially when everyone else is wrong.  |
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