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« Reply #80 on: December 14, 2016, 05:50:26 AM »

How so?
The actions of the woman affect her and her unborn child. The actions of a shooter can affect many in detrimental ways.
Who said anything of shooting Besides you? He stated the restrictions of buying a firearm or trying to ban certain SCARY black ones. Which the 2nd guarantees YOUR right not with exceptions. But doesn't anywhere Guarantee the killing of a heartbeat.
What no response meathead? How come when someone mentions a gun the Dems all refer to killings or a shooter? I have owned a gun since I was 7 yrs old and haven't shot not one person. :coolsmiley:and haven't shot anything I wasn't meaning to. 2funny

That is the right kind of "gun control"
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« Reply #81 on: December 14, 2016, 06:57:06 AM »

How so?
The actions of the woman affect her and her unborn child. The actions of a shooter can affect many in detrimental ways.
Who said anything of shooting Besides you? He stated the restrictions of buying a firearm or trying to ban certain SCARY black ones. Which the 2nd guarantees YOUR right not with exceptions. But doesn't anywhere Guarantee the killing of a heartbeat.
What no response meathead? How come when someone mentions a gun the Dems all refer to killings or a shooter? I have owned a gun since I was 7 yrs old and haven't shot not one person. :coolsmiley:and haven't shot anything I wasn't meaning to. 2funny
Its been hashed over many times. The adverb "can" means it's possible. Not as in it always happens.  coolsmiley

While we're playing with the meaning of "can" the purchase of an automobile can result in a dozen or more pedestrians being run down in a crowd.  Honestly, the careless use of automobiles kills more people very year, a lot more people, than does the accidental or intentional use of firearms.  I've missed out on the outcry for more car sales restrictions.

Abortion kills a baby every time.  That's 100% not one one hundredth of one percent or less.

As to the original question in this thread I've noticed that a number of times some of us accuse the opposition of hypocrisy when they don't get outraged as their own side makes ridiculous statements or claims.  I haven't noticed that any of us in that number take offense when our own side makes unsupportable statements or claims.  We do need to be certain that we measure up to the standard that we seem to expect of others.  To do otherwise is the very meaning of the term hypocrisy.    

 
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« Reply #82 on: December 14, 2016, 07:03:46 AM »

Heck, since it seems to be swinging to what causes more death and how can we "control" it the medical profession is way up there compared to guns!
 With Trump in there will be a moratorium on gun control for a while anyway. Well, I say that before knowing if O'Idiot will put a liberal justice in while congress is on break. Scary thought.
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« Reply #83 on: December 14, 2016, 07:43:33 AM »

Heck, since it seems to be swinging to what causes more death and how can we "control" it the medical profession is way up there compared to guns!
 With Trump in there will be a moratorium on gun control for a while anyway. Well, I say that before knowing if O'Idiot will put a liberal justice in while congress is on break. Scary thought.

"Control" and "Hypocrisy" ...the last 8 years have seen an abundance of both. News Media and Politics are the dividers...how do 'we the people'(it is happening in my country too) begin to ratchet down this division. I look at what has happened since 'The Donald' first announced, and again since November 8th, and I don't see an end...only an elevated attack by the left that is unprecedented.
What I do see though that gives a bit of hope...the range of influential people from polar opposite doctrines, who have been invited to Trump Tower.    
Maybe...just maybe...
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« Reply #84 on: December 14, 2016, 07:45:22 AM »

 NYT columnist Maureen Dowd's



It's to be hoped that every wild-eyed liberal devotee of the New York Times   reads liberal columnist Maureen Dowd's column several times, reproduces it in large print, frames it, and mounts it on their bedroom ceiling so it's the first thing they read every day:

            Maureen Dowd

            Election Therapy From My Basket of Deplorables

            The election was a complete repudiation of Barack Obama: his fantasy world of political correctness, the politicization of the Justice Department and the I.R.S., an out-of-control E.P.A., his neutering of the military, his nonsupport of the police and his fixation on things like transgender bathrooms. Since he became president, his party has lost 63 House seats, 10 Senate seats and 14 governorships.

            The country had signaled strongly in the last two midterms that they were not happy. The Dems’ answer was to give them more of the same from a person they did not like or trust.

            Preaching — and pandering — with a message of inclusion, the Democrats have instead become a party where incivility and bad manners are taken for granted, rudeness is routine, religion is mocked and there is absolutely no respect for a differing opinion. This did not go down well in the Midwest, where Trump flipped three blue states and 44 electoral votes.

            The rudeness reached its peak when Vice President-elect Mike Pence was booed by attendees of “Hamilton” and then pompously lectured by the cast. This may play well with the New York theater crowd but is considered boorish and unacceptable by those of us taught to respect the office of the president and vice president, if not the occupants.

            Here is a short primer for the young protesters. If your preferred candidate loses, there is no need for mass hysteria, canceled midterms, safe spaces, crying rooms or group primal screams. You might understand this better if you had not received participation trophies, undeserved grades to protect your feelings or even if you had a proper understanding of civics. The Democrats are now crying that Hillary had more popular votes. That can be her participation trophy.

            If any of my sons had told me they were too distraught over a national election to take an exam, I would have brought them home the next day, fearful of the instruction they were receiving. Not one of the top 50 colleges mandate one semester of Western Civilization. Maybe they should rethink that.

            Mr. Trump received over 62 million votes, not all of them cast by homophobes, Islamaphobes, racists, sexists, misogynists or any other “ists.” I would caution Trump deniers that all of the crying and whining is not good preparation for the coming storm. The liberal media, both print and electronic, has lost all credibility. I am reasonably sure that none of the mainstream print media had stories prepared for a Trump victory. I watched the networks and cable stations in their midnight meltdown — embodied by Rachel Maddow explaining to viewers that they were not having a “terrible, terrible dream” and that they had not died and “gone to hell.”

            The media’s criticism of Trump’s high-level picks as “not diverse enough” or “too white and male” — a day before he named two women and offered a cabinet position to an African-American — magnified this fact.

            Here is a final word to my Democratic friends. The election is over. There will not be a do-over. So let me bid farewell to Al Sharpton, Ben Rhodes and the Clintons. Note to Cher, Barbra, Amy Schumer and Lena Dunham: Your plane is waiting. And to Jon Stewart, who talked about moving to another planet: Your spaceship is waiting. To Bruce Springsteen, Jay Z, Beyoncé and Katy Perry, thanks for the free concerts. And finally, to all the foreign countries that contributed to the Clinton Foundation, there will not be a payoff or a rebate.

            As Eddie Murphy so eloquently stated in the movie “48 Hrs.”: “There’s a new sheriff in town.” And he is going to be here for 1,461 days. Merry Christmas."
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« Reply #85 on: December 14, 2016, 08:13:49 AM »

NYT columnist Maureen Dowd's



It's to be hoped that every wild-eyed liberal devotee of the New York Times   reads liberal columnist Maureen Dowd's column several times, reproduces it in large print, frames it, and mounts it on their bedroom ceiling so it's the first thing they read every day:

            Maureen Dowd

            Election Therapy From My Basket of Deplorables

            The election was a complete repudiation of Barack Obama: his fantasy world of political correctness, the politicization of the Justice Department and the I.R.S., an out-of-control E.P.A., his neutering of the military, his nonsupport of the police and his fixation on things like transgender bathrooms. Since he became president, his party has lost 63 House seats, 10 Senate seats and 14 governorships.

            The country had signaled strongly in the last two midterms that they were not happy. The Dems’ answer was to give them more of the same from a person they did not like or trust.

            Preaching — and pandering — with a message of inclusion, the Democrats have instead become a party where incivility and bad manners are taken for granted, rudeness is routine, religion is mocked and there is absolutely no respect for a differing opinion. This did not go down well in the Midwest, where Trump flipped three blue states and 44 electoral votes.

            The rudeness reached its peak when Vice President-elect Mike Pence was booed by attendees of “Hamilton” and then pompously lectured by the cast. This may play well with the New York theater crowd but is considered boorish and unacceptable by those of us taught to respect the office of the president and vice president, if not the occupants.

            Here is a short primer for the young protesters. If your preferred candidate loses, there is no need for mass hysteria, canceled midterms, safe spaces, crying rooms or group primal screams. You might understand this better if you had not received participation trophies, undeserved grades to protect your feelings or even if you had a proper understanding of civics. The Democrats are now crying that Hillary had more popular votes. That can be her participation trophy.

            If any of my sons had told me they were too distraught over a national election to take an exam, I would have brought them home the next day, fearful of the instruction they were receiving. Not one of the top 50 colleges mandate one semester of Western Civilization. Maybe they should rethink that.

            Mr. Trump received over 62 million votes, not all of them cast by homophobes, Islamaphobes, racists, sexists, misogynists or any other “ists.” I would caution Trump deniers that all of the crying and whining is not good preparation for the coming storm. The liberal media, both print and electronic, has lost all credibility. I am reasonably sure that none of the mainstream print media had stories prepared for a Trump victory. I watched the networks and cable stations in their midnight meltdown — embodied by Rachel Maddow explaining to viewers that they were not having a “terrible, terrible dream” and that they had not died and “gone to hell.”

            The media’s criticism of Trump’s high-level picks as “not diverse enough” or “too white and male” — a day before he named two women and offered a cabinet position to an African-American — magnified this fact.

            Here is a final word to my Democratic friends. The election is over. There will not be a do-over. So let me bid farewell to Al Sharpton, Ben Rhodes and the Clintons. Note to Cher, Barbra, Amy Schumer and Lena Dunham: Your plane is waiting. And to Jon Stewart, who talked about moving to another planet: Your spaceship is waiting. To Bruce Springsteen, Jay Z, Beyoncé and Katy Perry, thanks for the free concerts. And finally, to all the foreign countries that contributed to the Clinton Foundation, there will not be a payoff or a rebate.

            As Eddie Murphy so eloquently stated in the movie “48 Hrs.”: “There’s a new sheriff in town.” And he is going to be here for 1,461 days. Merry Christmas."


Not so fast....

http://www.snopes.com/maureen-dowd-election-therapy/

The full text......as written by her brother....

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/26/opinion/sunday/election-therapy-from-my-basket-of-deplorables.html?_r=0

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« Reply #86 on: December 14, 2016, 08:28:18 AM »

Heck, since it seems to be swinging to what causes more death and how can we "control" it the medical profession is way up there compared to guns!
 With Trump in there will be a moratorium on gun control for a while anyway. Well, I say that before knowing if O'Idiot will put a liberal justice in while congress is on break. Scary thought.

It was reported and I heard it yesterday that Mitch McConnell will keep the Senate in session during the break just to keep these kind of things from happening.  Good on his part.  Congress has already taken recess.
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« Reply #87 on: December 14, 2016, 11:59:26 AM »

Heck, since it seems to be swinging to what causes more death and how can we "control" it the medical profession is way up there compared to guns!
 With Trump in there will be a moratorium on gun control for a while anyway. Well, I say that before knowing if O'Idiot will put a liberal justice in while congress is on break. Scary thought.

It was reported and I heard it yesterday that Mitch McConnell will keep the Senate in session during the break just to keep these kind of things from happening.  Good on his part.  Congress has already taken recess.
I think they have been gaveling back into session every 2 weeks since Scalia died.
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« Reply #88 on: December 14, 2016, 12:00:22 PM »

   from baldo...
        "Not so fast....

http://www.snopes.com/maureen-dowd-election-therapy/
The full text......as written by her brother....
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/26/opinion/sunday/election-therapy-from-my-basket-of-deplorables.html?_r=0
"

SNOPES??  that explains a lot....
see >>   http://www.angrypatriotmovement.com/who-is-behind-snopes/

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« Reply #89 on: December 14, 2016, 01:28:22 PM »

NYT columnist Maureen Dowd's



It's to be hoped that every wild-eyed liberal devotee of the New York Times   reads liberal columnist Maureen Dowd's column several times, reproduces it in large print, frames it, and mounts it on their bedroom ceiling so it's the first thing they read every day:

            Maureen Dowd

            Election Therapy From My Basket of Deplorables

            The election was a complete repudiation of Barack Obama: his fantasy world of political correctness, the politicization of the Justice Department and the I.R.S., an out-of-control E.P.A., his neutering of the military, his nonsupport of the police and his fixation on things like transgender bathrooms. Since he became president, his party has lost 63 House seats, 10 Senate seats and 14 governorships.

            The country had signaled strongly in the last two midterms that they were not happy. The Dems’ answer was to give them more of the same from a person they did not like or trust.

            Preaching — and pandering — with a message of inclusion, the Democrats have instead become a party where incivility and bad manners are taken for granted, rudeness is routine, religion is mocked and there is absolutely no respect for a differing opinion. This did not go down well in the Midwest, where Trump flipped three blue states and 44 electoral votes.

            The rudeness reached its peak when Vice President-elect Mike Pence was booed by attendees of “Hamilton” and then pompously lectured by the cast. This may play well with the New York theater crowd but is considered boorish and unacceptable by those of us taught to respect the office of the president and vice president, if not the occupants.

            Here is a short primer for the young protesters. If your preferred candidate loses, there is no need for mass hysteria, canceled midterms, safe spaces, crying rooms or group primal screams. You might understand this better if you had not received participation trophies, undeserved grades to protect your feelings or even if you had a proper understanding of civics. The Democrats are now crying that Hillary had more popular votes. That can be her participation trophy.

            If any of my sons had told me they were too distraught over a national election to take an exam, I would have brought them home the next day, fearful of the instruction they were receiving. Not one of the top 50 colleges mandate one semester of Western Civilization. Maybe they should rethink that.

            Mr. Trump received over 62 million votes, not all of them cast by homophobes, Islamaphobes, racists, sexists, misogynists or any other “ists.” I would caution Trump deniers that all of the crying and whining is not good preparation for the coming storm. The liberal media, both print and electronic, has lost all credibility. I am reasonably sure that none of the mainstream print media had stories prepared for a Trump victory. I watched the networks and cable stations in their midnight meltdown — embodied by Rachel Maddow explaining to viewers that they were not having a “terrible, terrible dream” and that they had not died and “gone to hell.”

            The media’s criticism of Trump’s high-level picks as “not diverse enough” or “too white and male” — a day before he named two women and offered a cabinet position to an African-American — magnified this fact.

            Here is a final word to my Democratic friends. The election is over. There will not be a do-over. So let me bid farewell to Al Sharpton, Ben Rhodes and the Clintons. Note to Cher, Barbra, Amy Schumer and Lena Dunham: Your plane is waiting. And to Jon Stewart, who talked about moving to another planet: Your spaceship is waiting. To Bruce Springsteen, Jay Z, Beyoncé and Katy Perry, thanks for the free concerts. And finally, to all the foreign countries that contributed to the Clinton Foundation, there will not be a payoff or a rebate.

            As Eddie Murphy so eloquently stated in the movie “48 Hrs.”: “There’s a new sheriff in town.” And he is going to be here for 1,461 days. Merry Christmas."


Not so fast....

http://www.snopes.com/maureen-dowd-election-therapy/

The full text......as written by her brother....

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/26/opinion/sunday/election-therapy-from-my-basket-of-deplorables.html?_r=0




You dispute the mistaken accreditation but not the words. Hoo-Hoo-Hoo.

And a few of these cause we know you like them.  Cheesy Grin uglystupid2 coolsmiley 2funny crazy2
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« Reply #90 on: December 14, 2016, 01:39:07 PM »



You dispute the mistaken accreditation but not the words. Hoo-Hoo-Hoo.

And a few of these cause we know you like them.  Cheesy Grin uglystupid2 coolsmiley 2funny crazy2

BM, sorry my friend. Where do I 'dispute' the accreditation?

Try again. Better yet, just stop.
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« Reply #91 on: December 14, 2016, 01:40:24 PM »



You may have missed the other link? I know how much you guys love the snopes.
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« Reply #92 on: December 14, 2016, 02:05:48 PM »

I guess you've got me baldo.

    I'm going to get my puppy and head for my safe room now....

       Roll Eyes    Roll Eyes    Roll Eyes    Roll Eyes    Roll Eyes
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« Reply #93 on: December 14, 2016, 02:23:29 PM »

To me it matters not who wrote the words. It was well done and reasonably accurate.

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« Reply #94 on: December 14, 2016, 03:26:04 PM »

I guess you've got me baldo.

    I'm going to get my puppy and head for my safe room now....

       Roll Eyes    Roll Eyes    Roll Eyes    Roll Eyes    Roll Eyes


What kind of puppy?
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« Reply #95 on: December 14, 2016, 03:46:39 PM »

 
I find this racially charged micro aggression offensive!!!



                          Wink
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« Reply #96 on: December 14, 2016, 04:01:29 PM »

 
I find this racially charged micro aggression offensive!!!



                          Wink

Lol....yikes. I don't even know what that is....
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« Reply #97 on: December 14, 2016, 04:05:56 PM »

 
I find this racially charged micro aggression offensive!!!



                          Wink

Lol....yikes. I don't even know what that is....
Me either. But it sounds very serious.  Smiley
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« Reply #98 on: December 14, 2016, 04:24:02 PM »

My reply got deleted or lost in the ether. Oh well.
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