OK President Trump

[Gavin_Sons]

Tip of the iceberg. 

tell us old wise master, what lurks below the surface?

I'm not Yoda. It's just that with almost 70 years of life experience, and an education in human behavior,
I have a pretty good idea how this all will turn out. Lord knows, I've been wrong before. We shall see.

This made me laugh really hard.  Thanks

[Robert]

I dont think its fair to ask what will it take for Trump, after all we have seen Obama violate the Constitution, institute policies that lost people jobs, endorse Obama care at the cost of billions if not trillions of dollars while admitting they lied about it and we did not hear a peep from any liberal. This and so much more was done.

  So if those on the left were not willing to stop the blatant wrongs of Obama while we gritted our teeth, what right do they have to ask what will it take for us, to not believe in Trump. Not to mention we are talking about a month in office so far and have already done more to benefit the US and the US worker than the last president. So I will let you know as soon as the crap gets to the level Obama pushed things to. Even then it would have to be done with malicious intent against the founding principles of this country like Obama then maybe I would consider Trump as a mistake.

So the easy answer is when the crap gets as deep as Obamas.
 

[baldo]

I dont think its fair to ask what will it take for Trump, after all we have seen Obama violate the Constitution, institute policies that lost people jobs, endorse Obama care at the cost of billions if not trillions of dollars while admitting they lied about it and we did not hear a peep from any liberal. This and so much more was done.

  So if those on the left were not willing to stop the blatant wrongs of Obama while we gritted our teeth, what right do they have to ask what will it take for us, to not believe in Trump. Not to mention we are talking about a month in office so far and have already done more to benefit the US and the US worker than the last president. So I will let you know as soon as the crap gets to the level Obama pushed things to. Even then it would have to be done with malicious intent against the founding principles of this country like Obama then maybe I would consider Trump as a mistake.

So the easy answer is when the crap gets as deep as Obamas.
 

Wow...just......wow.

[Skinhead]

I dont think its fair to ask what will it take for Trump, after all we have seen Obama violate the Constitution, institute policies that lost people jobs, endorse Obama care at the cost of billions if not trillions of dollars while admitting they lied about it and we did not hear a peep from any liberal. This and so much more was done.

  So if those on the left were not willing to stop the blatant wrongs of Obama while we gritted our teeth, what right do they have to ask what will it take for us, to not believe in Trump. Not to mention we are talking about a month in office so far and have already done more to benefit the US and the US worker than the last president. So I will let you know as soon as the crap gets to the level Obama pushed things to. Even then it would have to be done with malicious intent against the founding principles of this country like Obama then maybe I would consider Trump as a mistake.

So the easy answer is when the crap gets as deep as Obamas.
 

Atta boy Robert!  Couldn't have said it any better.  

[The emperor has no clothes]

I dont think its fair to ask what will it take for Trump, after all we have seen Obama violate the Constitution, institute policies that lost people jobs, endorse Obama care at the cost of billions if not trillions of dollars while admitting they lied about it and we did not hear a peep from any liberal. This and so much more was done.

  So if those on the left were not willing to stop the blatant wrongs of Obama while we gritted our teeth, what right do they have to ask what will it take for us, to not believe in Trump. Not to mention we are talking about a month in office so far and have already done more to benefit the US and the US worker than the last president. So I will let you know as soon as the crap gets to the level Obama pushed things to. Even then it would have to be done with malicious intent against the founding principles of this country like Obama then maybe I would consider Trump as a mistake.

So the easy answer is when the crap gets as deep as Obamas.
 

Care to elaborate on which part of the Constitution he violated ?

[Gavin_Sons]

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/428882/obama-violate-constitution-top-ten-2015

Will you accept this source?

[Gavin_Sons]

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/list-obamas-constitutionalviolations-tim-mcclellan

How about this one? Is this any better? 

[Patrick]

I dont think its fair to ask what will it take for Trump, after all we have seen Obama violate the Constitution, institute policies that lost people jobs, endorse Obama care at the cost of billions if not trillions of dollars while admitting they lied about it and we did not hear a peep from any liberal. This and so much more was done.

  So if those on the left were not willing to stop the blatant wrongs of Obama while we gritted our teeth, what right do they have to ask what will it take for us, to not believe in Trump. Not to mention we are talking about a month in office so far and have already done more to benefit the US and the US worker than the last president. So I will let you know as soon as the crap gets to the level Obama pushed things to. Even then it would have to be done with malicious intent against the founding principles of this country like Obama then maybe I would consider Trump as a mistake.

So the easy answer is when the crap gets as deep as Obamas.
 

Care to elaborate on which part of the Constitution he violated ?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ilyashapiro/2014/01/13/president-obamas-top-10-constitutional-violations-of-2013/#1e8f38d83702



A simple google search brings up many more.

[Robert]

Thanks meathead for the opportunity to list some of the many times he was challenged in court and lost not to mention some of the other following examples. The 13 losses that Obama suffered with the Supreme court citing that the president exceeded his constitutional authority.
The fact that you picked this was because its even easier to give examples of all the rest.

So I will ask you what will it take for you to stop endorsing Obama and say he is a failed president?

The Obama administration has been the most lawless in U.S. history. Here are just a few examples to prove it
http://thefederalist.com/2017/01/19/10-ways-obama-violated-constitution-presidency/

A federal judge said his funding for Obamacare was unconstitutional.
A court was told Obama’s gun-control plans “exceed the powers of the president.”
National Review columnist Ilya Shapiro once pointed out Obama’s 10 top constitutional violations of 2015, including financial bailouts.
His belief that “gay” trumps religion in the U.S. Constitution.
His ordering of religious believers to provide abortion pills in violation of their faith.
The Iran deal.
Obama’s amnesty plan.
His agenda to enact same-sex “marriage.”
His recess appointments.
His refusal to deport illegal aliens.
His attempt to coerce Catholics to support birth control
His mandate over private health care records.
His orders that schools and public buildings open women’s restrooms to men who say they are women.
His insistence that states cannot deprive abortionists of public funding.
That the feds can orders states not to enforce immigration laws.
That the federal government can simply change definitions of words in federal law, even though it may cost Americans.
That he can decide which people will be allowed to move into certain neighborhoods.
That he can decide who faces prosecution.
That he can change the Constitution’s language, from “freedom of religion” to “freedom of worship.”
That he can dictate speech codes
That the IRS can selectively target Christians and conservatives because they disagree wit


BTW Baldo I knew you would be impressed 

[Valker]

It continues to amaze me that Americans, like some on this board, can even think that the past eight years were beneficial to the America most of us love. Many refuse to accept that the basic principles this country has embraced for over 200 years have been trampled and defamed for many years (I won't limit that to 8 years). Nothing Trump has done so far is against the basic principles set forth in the Constitution.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Thanks meathead for the oppertunity to list some of the many times he was challenged in court and lost not to mention some of the other following examples. The 13 losses that Obama suffered with the Supreme court citing that the president exceeded his constitutional authority.

The Obama administration has been the most lawless in U.S. history. Here are just a few examples to prove it
http://thefederalist.com/2017/01/19/10-ways-obama-violated-constitution-presidency/

A federal judge said his funding for Obamacare was unconstitutional.
A court was told Obama’s gun-control plans “exceed the powers of the president.”
National Review columnist Ilya Shapiro once pointed out Obama’s 10 top constitutional violations of 2015, including financial bailouts.
His belief that “gay” trumps religion in the U.S. Constitution.
His ordering of religious believers to provide abortion pills in violation of their faith.
The Iran deal.
Obama’s amnesty plan.
His agenda to enact same-sex “marriage.”
His recess appointments.
His refusal to deport illegal aliens.
His attempt to coerce Catholics to support birth control
His mandate over private health care records.
His orders that schools and public buildings open women’s restrooms to men who say they are women.
His insistence that states cannot deprive abortionists of public funding.
That the feds can orders states not to enforce immigration laws.
That the federal government can simply change definitions of words in federal law, even though it may cost Americans.
That he can decide which people will be allowed to move into certain neighborhoods.
That he can decide who faces prosecution.
That he can change the Constitution’s language, from “freedom of religion” to “freedom of worship.”
That he can dictate speech codes
That the IRS can selectively target Christians and conservatives because they disagree wit

The Supreme Court adjudicated "Obamacare" and found it passed muster. (A conservative court at that).
How was the Iran deal unconstitutional ?
Amnesty plan ?
Same sex issues have come before the court also.
Recess appointments ? Presidents have been doing that for decades.
He deported more illegals than any other.
The Birth control issue was also adjudicated.
I'm not familiar with what you are calling mandate over health records.
I wasn't aware of any constitutional amendments about bathroom use.
Immigration laws have always been a Federal issue.
Again I know not what you are referring to him changing definitions of words or speech codes ?
He has decided who lives where ?
Prosecutors have always had discretion who is charged and who not.
The IRS scandal never implicated the president.


Whoo ! That was too easy. I didn't even have to copy and paste.

[The emperor has no clothes]

It continues to amaze me that Americans, like some on this board, can even think that the past eight years were beneficial to the America most of us love. Many refuse to accept that the basic principles this country has embraced for over 200 years have been trampled and defamed for many years (I won't limit that to 8 years). Nothing Trump has done so far is against the basic principles set forth in the Constitution.

Beneficial and Constitutional are two separate issues.

[Robert]

Actaully your word is not accurate and you should have some backup resources for a change. The other thing is Obama Care was did not actually pass muster it was judged a tax by Roberts ( actually one of the best side steps in the court history) and one of the biggest tax increases in history. Something that Obama said he would not do and yet did it in a big way. Congress could have repealed it at this point but the Democrats wouldn't do it.

So essentially we have Obama lying to the public about Obama care, passing the biggest tax increase in history, costing the US tax payer trillions and you did not address all the other court cases he LOST in. And a partridge in a pear tree, and on the eighth year of Obama we had

Extending Obamacare subsidies to non-exchange plans.
Further delays of Obamacare’s employer mandate.
Delay of Obamacare’s transparency requirements.
Deferred Action for Parents of Americans
The lists go on
And a Partridge in a pear tree

Its also going to get interesting if we find Obama did in fact wire tap Trump since that is exactly what Nixon resigned over. Can you say Water Gate or White Water, oh wait that was the Clinton's. So many scandals so little time.

[Bighead]

Hey Trump is only doing the things he said he would do before the Election and he go voted in. surprised? I for one am not and glad to see someone do as they say hey would.
O said he would fundamentally change America and he tried his Damndest but the population said no we won't vote the beast in To forward his agenda that is 100% against what this country was found on. Thank God there are folks out there that still BELIEVE in the CONSTITUTION.

[Serk]

Care to elaborate on which part of the Constitution he violated ?

Section 1 of article two for starters...

[Pappy!]

I think there are still so many obama loyalists in the government that we will never find the "truth" about the wiretapping.
Am thinking Trump needs to get Comey the Hell out and replace him with someone loyal to the Law of the Land, the constitution and Trump.
It just feels like obama still has an active and semi-effective shadow government in place to block and thwart every move this new administration is trying. He has a tough road ahead of him.

[Oss]

I think a deal was cut by Obama and Trump after the election in which Trump agreed NOT to prosecute Hillary, but in exchange for what?

Now that it is possible (didnt say certain but we will see whats there soon enough) that he out Nixoned Nixon you can bet that Trump will not muzzle the congress from asking the FBI, DOJ or ATTY GEN units what they can find out.   I think Trump should order NSA to reveal all to Congress on that front and it should be released asap

Obama should remember Trump will not pardon him after he lied about getting with Trump, remember his Trump won get over it speech


Wonder who now has more dirty money, Hillary or Barack?

[The emperor has no clothes]

Actaully your word is not accurate and you should have some backup resources for a change. The other thing is Obama Care was did not actually pass muster it was judged a tax by Roberts ( actually one of the best side steps in the court history) and one of the biggest tax increases in history. Something that Obama said he would not do and yet did it in a big way. Congress could have repealed it at this point but the Democrats wouldn't do it.

So essentially we have Obama lying to the public about Obama care, passing the biggest tax increase in history, costing the US tax payer trillions and you did not address all the other court cases he LOST in. And a partridge in a pear tree, and on the eighth year of Obama we had

Extending Obamacare subsidies to non-exchange plans.
Further delays of Obamacare’s employer mandate.
Delay of Obamacare’s transparency requirements.
Deferred Action for Parents of Americans
The lists go on
And a Partridge in a pear tree

Its also going to get interesting if we find Obama did in fact wire tap Trump since that is exactly what Nixon resigned over. Can you say Water Gate or White Water, oh wait that was the Clinton's. So many scandals so little time.

Any facts to back up the claim Trump made ? It's very easy for the guy to throw crap against the wall and see what sticks. If he has info this happened, why doesn't he tweet it out ? I am one of Obama's biggest supporters, but if he did this I will disavow him till my dying day. Accusing someone, much less the previous president of a felony without ANY evidence goes right to this guys lack of morals.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Care to elaborate on which part of the Constitution he violated ?

Section 1 of article two for starters...

Oh God ! We aren't going back to the "Birther" issue again ? Even your man Trump gave that up.

[Bighead]

I am one of Obama's biggest supporters.

This all we need to know

[The emperor has no clothes]

I am one of Obama's biggest supporters.

This all we need to know

I figured you would have known that already.

[Bighead]

I did but  confirmation is better

[Mobile Mayor]

Oss, Obama or Hillary, or Soros and his kind.

[Pappy!]

Not up to Trump to tweet out evidence.
Evidence will be presented as it unfolds by internal investigations. I think this is much bigger than some realize. Think Nixon. Obama may not be on record as ordering a wiretap but you bet your sweet bippy he knew about it and probably "made it happen" in such a way that he will never be touched for it.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Not up to Trump to tweet out evidence.
Evidence will be presented as it unfolds by internal investigations. I think this is much bigger than some realize. Think Nixon. Obama may not be on record as ordering a wiretap but you bet your sweet bippy he knew about it and probably "made it happen" in such a way that he will never be touched for it.

Maybe, or maybe just some more Trump BS. I'd put my money on the latter.

[Pappy!]

Am thinking you will lose that money.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Am thinking you will lose that money.

Why would the head of the FBI lie about it ? Why would the DNI Clapper lie about it ? Your man is losing what little credibility he had. These guys view their credibility as important. I don't see a reason for them to lie. If Trump really was told this by a credible source and not by Mark Levin or Breitbart he could easily say that.

[Bighead]

Am thinking you will lose that money.

Why would the head of the FBI lie about it ? Why would the DNI Clapper lie about it ?

Why would the head of the FBI not recommend that Hillary be Prosecuted? Why would any one in our Wonderful Government lie

[The emperor has no clothes]

Am thinking you will lose that money.

Why would the head of the FBI lie about it ? Why would the DNI Clapper lie about it ?

Why would the head of the FBI not recommend that Hillary be Prosecuted? Why would any one in our Wonderful Government lie

Because he didn't enough evidence to warrant it. People in our government (and people in general) lie for a couple reasons. To benefit themselves in some way. Financially, etc. Or to try to hide something they did wrong. I don't see either fitting Obama, Comey, or Clapper. I can come up with several reasons for Trump though.

[Moonshot_1]

Am thinking you will lose that money.

Why would the head of the FBI lie about it ? Why would the DNI Clapper lie about it ? Your man is losing what little credibility he had. These guys view their credibility as important. I don't see a reason for them to lie. If Trump really was told this by a credible source and not by Mark Levin or Breitbart he could easily say that.

It's called "plausible deniability".

The news media are in a frenzy now with Pres. Trump latest accusation about Obama ordered wiretapping

Over the past year and a half and more, we've seen countless reports and articles by the news media that are presented in a negative manner about Pres. Trump. Granted, a few are within the realm of reason, but the vast majority are not and quite obviously vindictive attempts to smear Trump and his staff.

Many of those reports are based on "anonymous sources" within the "intelligence community" with leaked information procured by surveillance or wiretapping.

So by the media's own reporting of the info leaked to them, they, at the very least, confirm the previous administration and/or their associated agencies were, in fact, conducting surveillance and wiretapping on a Presidential Candidate of their political opposition. That is the origin of their own reports.  

The corruption runs deep.

[Moonshot_1]

Am thinking you will lose that money.

Why would the head of the FBI lie about it ? Why would the DNI Clapper lie about it ?

Why would the head of the FBI not recommend that Hillary be Prosecuted? Why would any one in our Wonderful Government lie

Because he didn't enough evidence to warrant it. People in our government (and people in general) lie for a couple reasons. To benefit themselves in some way. Financially, etc. Or to try to hide something they did wrong. I don't see either fitting Obama, Comey, or Clapper. I can come up with several reasons for Trump though.

The deletion of 30,000 + emails under Congressional subpoena was surely enough to warrant a Grand Jury. 

[Gavin_Sons]

Am thinking you will lose that money.

Why would the head of the FBI lie about it ? Why would the DNI Clapper lie about it ?

Why would the head of the FBI not recommend that Hillary be Prosecuted? Why would any one in our Wonderful Government lie

Because he didn't enough evidence to warrant it. People in our government (and people in general) lie for a couple reasons. To benefit themselves in some way. Financially, etc. Or to try to hide something they did wrong. I don't see either fitting Obama, Comey, or Clapper. I can come up with several reasons for Trump though.

Really ? You go with the not enough evidence card? There have been better people imprisoned for far less. 

[Robert]

Am thinking you will lose that money.

Why would the head of the FBI lie about it ? Why would the DNI Clapper lie about it ? Your man is losing what little credibility he had. These guys view their credibility as important. I don't see a reason for them to lie. If Trump really was told this by a credible source and not by Mark Levin or Breitbart he could easily say that.

You know I am thinking there is something wrong here. I cannot believe in this day and age when time has proven that the Obama admin has been shown to be liars cheats and generally underhanded that we still have one member that seems to deny the double dealing. I at this point with Obama and Soros documented pushing almost treasonous agenda and Hillary, Comey links proven and questioned as to the shady maneuvers that this member would understand that there is a problem with corruption in government and that Trump has come in almost on a white horse to turn the US around.

This is not about Trump per se but the corruption and lawlessness of the previous admin that still fights to keep their agenda amid a new admin and being soundly voted out. We even see Comey lately on the hot seat with none other than Valerie Jarrett at his side. A decidedly corrosive influence, living with Obama, and viciously liberal and progressive agenda as advisor to Obama. In fact I would say that with her next to Comey its the biggest tell tale of influence of the previous admin is still very active today.

I see this member trying to question Trump at every turn and trying to undermine confidence in him. But I never see him admit the problems of the Obama admin or all the junk that went along with it. I really call into question this behavior and Its myopic view. This is really a joke right, or we need it to keep the board political posts going right? I have seen very little true evidence offered as rebuttal and many quips but with no substantive facts. I think we post because we think its a bad dream or that one day they will wake up to the reality of what is actually happening. But it never seems to materialize. I guess we are the fools, the dreamers, the ones with hope that this kind of thinking and the country that Obama was working for would be no more.

You know what I also dont see is constructive ideas on how to stop this corruption and how to move forward in a real fashion.

I was riding a two lane rode the other day and there was a girl walking her big dogs not on the grass but in the middle of the street and I beeped before I approached her and she did not move. I beeped soundly as I finally went by dogs in the middle of the street on coming car and a bit nervous how to pass. I turned around after passing and saw a one finger salute. This is the same type of thinking and behavour that I can relate to listening to this person.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Am thinking you will lose that money.

Why would the head of the FBI lie about it ? Why would the DNI Clapper lie about it ? Your man is losing what little credibility he had. These guys view their credibility as important. I don't see a reason for them to lie. If Trump really was told this by a credible source and not by Mark Levin or Breitbart he could easily say that.

It's called "plausible deniability".

The news media are in a frenzy now with Pres. Trump latest accusation about Obama ordered wiretapping

Over the past year and a half and more, we've seen countless reports and articles by the news media that are presented in a negative manner about Pres. Trump. Granted, a few are within the realm of reason, but the vast majority are not and quite obviously vindictive attempts to smear Trump and his staff.

Many of those reports are based on "anonymous sources" within the "intelligence community" with leaked information procured by surveillance or wiretapping.

So by the media's own reporting of the info leaked to them, they, at the very least, confirm the previous administration and/or their associated agencies were, in fact, conducting surveillance and wiretapping on a Presidential Candidate of their political opposition. That is the origin of their own reports.  

The corruption runs deep.

You do understand that if the Intelligence Agencies wiretap Russian spies and those Russian spies have communications with Trumps team, that is legal. That doesn't mean they are bugging Trump Tower, that just means they have been caught up in the net. See the difference ?

[The emperor has no clothes]

Am thinking you will lose that money.

Why would the head of the FBI lie about it ? Why would the DNI Clapper lie about it ? Your man is losing what little credibility he had. These guys view their credibility as important. I don't see a reason for them to lie. If Trump really was told this by a credible source and not by Mark Levin or Breitbart he could easily say that.

You know I am thinking there is something wrong here. I cannot believe in this day and age when time has proven that the Obama admin has been shown to be liars cheats and generally underhanded that we still have one member that seems to deny the double dealing. I at this point with Obama and Soros documented pushing almost treasonous agenda and Hillary, Comey links proven and questioned as to the shady maneuvers that this member would understand that there is a problem with corruption in government and that Trump has come in almost on a white horse to turn the US around.

This is not about Trump per se but the corruption and lawlessness of the previous admin that still fights to keep their agenda amid a new admin and being soundly voted out. We even see Comey lately on the hot seat with none other than Valerie Jarrett at his side. A decidedly corrosive influence, living with Obama, and viciously liberal and progressive agenda as advisor to Obama. In fact I would say that with her next to Comey its the biggest tell tale of influence of the previous admin is still very active today.

I see this member trying to question Trump at every turn and trying to undermine confidence in him. But I never see him admit the problems of the Obama admin or all the junk that went along with it. I really call into question this behavior and Its myopic view. This is really a joke right, or we need it to keep the board political posts going right? I have seen very little true evidence offered as rebuttal and many quips but with no substantive facts. I think we post because we think its a bad dream or that one day they will wake up to the reality of what is actually happening. But it never seems to materialize. I guess we are the fools, the dreamers, the ones with hope that this kind of thinking and the country that Obama was working for would be no more.

Robert, there is plenty I have disagreed with Obama about. If you really want to hear it, I can go into it later. It's almost time for me to go to work. If you truly believe Trump is "riding in on a White Horse" then you might want to reexamine your myopic tendencies. I have questioned Trump at every turn ? I have refrained from political posts for the most part the last few weeks. As much as I had opportunity to weigh in on his inadequacies. I can undermine confidence in him ? You give me way too much credit. Besides, he has done a pretty good job of that himself.

[Robert]

Lets just say that there have been no positive posts about Trump and very few acceptances of the reality of the Obama administration. With 4 weeks into the Trump admin, with him for the first time in history a president doing what he promised, facing attack after attack and still managing I would think that you should give him some time before you actually give him a performance rating. I would think that these attacks would be viewed as subversive and undermining since they are designed to inhibit the reforms and changes he would do. Changes that may work out for everyone's good.

I can tell you from personal experience that best performance under this kind of pressure is hard to achieve. That he IS our president that constant attacks puts things into chaos. Congratulations on your self check probably at the worry of deleting a post. But Im sure with most feeling Obama was not the best president you may feel under attack also, kind of like Trump. But a broadened view, acceptance and admissions of the failures of Obama and the positive aspects of Trumps ideas may actually help. At least it will point a direction you feel the country should go in a constructive form that more may agree with.

[Oss]

Exactly where is it written that one can not communicate with another person or country? either before election or after? This is a new and novel concept for "liberals" who openly admit taking socialist money

To deny that fact is to render one's statements impotent.

It is the offering "comfort and aid" to the enemy that is to be avoided.  

Again demonification and dehumanization are being used to thwart change which has been ratified by the electorate and the electoral college.

Surprised to keep seeing this from you being one who questions/

Perhaps my brother from Va, the former JAG attorney can amplify this for me

[Valkorado]

I have refrained from political posts for the most part the last few weeks.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Lets just say that there have been no positive posts about Trump and very few acceptances of the reality of the Obama administration. With 4 weeks into the Trump admin, with him for the first time in history a president doing what he promised, facing attack after attack and still managing I would think that you should give him some time before you actually give him a performance rating. I would think that these attacks would be viewed as subversive and undermining since they are designed to inhibit the reforms and changes he would do. Changes that may work out for everyone's good.

I can tell you from personal experience that best performance under this kind of pressure is hard to achieve. That he IS our president that constant attacks puts things into chaos. Congratulations on your self check probably at the worry of deleting a post. But Im sure with most feeling Obama was not the best president you may feel under attack also, kind of like Trump. But a broadened view, acceptance and admissions of the failures of Obama and the positive aspects of Trumps ideas may actually help. At least it will point a direction you feel the country should go in a constructive form that more may agree with.

I have never felt under attack. I'm a big boy and can handle being in the minority here politically. I will say I feel it's insulting at times but it is what it is.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Exactly where is it written that one can not communicate with another person or country? either before election or after? This is a new and novel concept for "liberals" who openly admit taking socialist money

To deny that fact is to render one's statements impotent.

It is the offering "comfort and aid" to the enemy that is to be avoided.  

Again demonification and dehumanization are being used to thwart change which has been ratified by the electorate and the electoral college.

Surprised to keep seeing this from you being one who questions/

Perhaps my brother from Va, the former JAG attorney can amplify this for me

Evan, I don't think the issue was talking to foreign agents. But 2 things. Talking to a Russian agent about foreign policy decisions before in office and then the subsequent lying about it.