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I personally think Trump is his own worst enemy - the man can't seem to shutup and let processes run to their conclusion before making a comment about them. And he has NEVER lost his bullying from when he was a host on the apprentice. I think Comey was saying that he wouldn't be bullyied and Trump didn't care for that.
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"One thing is clear: The Russian government has run one of the most cost-effective and disruptive espionage operations in history. Through a few simple hacks of the DNC, some basic online trolling, and garden-variety propaganda spread by modern means, the Kremlin has turned a superpower’s politics upside down. Its chief geopolitical rival is divided, with leaders obviously more furious at each other than at the foreign power who created the crisis. Russia may well face a day of reckoning for its attack on our democracy, but for now it has won, and the magnitude of its victory increases with each petty and partisan turn in Washington’s most consequential drama." Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/446339/donald-trump-russia-2016-election-controversy-explained |
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"One thing is clear: The Russian government has run one of the most cost-effective and disruptive espionage operations in history. Through a few simple hacks of the DNC, some basic online trolling, and garden-variety propaganda spread by modern means, the Kremlin has turned a superpower’s politics upside down. Its chief geopolitical rival is divided, with leaders obviously more furious at each other than at the foreign power who created the crisis. Russia may well face a day of reckoning for its attack on our democracy, but for now it has won, and the magnitude of its victory increases with each petty and partisan turn in Washington’s most consequential drama." Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/446339/donald-trump-russia-2016-election-controversy-explainedI couldn't have said it better myself. It's hard to believe (not really) the most common refrain is 'show me the collusion'....'show me the crime'..... Maybe some of the last eight years' outrage should have been put in reserve to use now when it would really mean something. Could you imagine the deafening screams if Obama had done .001% of what this guy has done? |
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While I refrain from listing all Obama deceptions and the cost to the American people in so many ways, the fact that you cannot accept the candidate put up by the Dems was a total failure. No hacking was ever found and now you guys are talking about influence by propaganda campaign what freaking, BS.
The DNC ran an unprotected servers Hillary had a server at home unprotected and you think the Russians are not supposed to explore and use the Dems flaws, REALLY, I mean REALLY?
Hillary had so many investigations, allegations, flaws and stories swirling around her that it was a hurricane wherever she went.
Both of you guys need to put on your big boy pants and accept the loss and admit the flaws and faults that caused the Dems to loose without trying to bring Trump or the Russians into the pic.
Trump has spent a short time in office and only undone Obama executive orders that should have been put through Congress on normal businesses. So any thing you don't like about this admin was done in the Obama admin, Trump is only unwinding the dictates of a corrupt and perverted previous admin.
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While I refrain from listing all Obama deceptions and the cost to the American people in so many ways, the fact that you cannot accept the candidate put up by the Dems was a total failure. No hacking was ever found and now you guys are talking about influence by propaganda campaign what freaking, BS.
The DNC ran an unprotected servers Hillary had a server at home unprotected and you think the Russians are not supposed to explore and use the Dems flaws, REALLY, I mean REALLY?
Hillary had so many investigations, allegations, flaws and stories swirling around her that it was a hurricane wherever she went.
If you guys cant put on your big boy pants and accept the loss and admit the flaws and faults that caused the Dems to loose without trying to bring Trump into the pic both of you are lost.
Trump has spent a short time in office and only undone Obama executive orders that should have been put through Congress on normal businesses. So any thing you don't like about this admin was done in the Obama admin, Trump is only unwinding the dictates of a corrupt and perverted previous admin.
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While I refrain from listing all Obama deceptions and the cost to the American people in so many ways, the fact that you cannot accept the candidate put up by the Dems was a total failure. No hacking was ever found and now you guys are talking about influence by propaganda campaign what freaking, BS.
The DNC ran an unprotected servers Hillary had a server at home unprotected and you think the Russians are not supposed to explore and use the Dems flaws, REALLY, I mean REALLY?
Hillary had so many investigations, allegations, flaws and stories swirling around her that it was a hurricane wherever she went.
If you guys cant put on your big boy pants and accept the loss and admit the flaws and faults that caused the Dems to loose without trying to bring Trump into the pic both of you are lost.
Trump has spent a short time in office and only undone Obama executive orders that should have been put through Congress on normal businesses. So any thing you don't like about this admin was done in the Obama admin, Trump is only unwinding the dictates of a corrupt and perverted previous admin.
LOLOL.....have a nice day, Robert.... Baldo I have known you to be reasonable, so the Dems left their servers open along with Hillary and wouldn't you expect that to be a reasonable thing for the Russians to do to explore an easy opening? You might say that if it was the Russians the Dems sunk their own ship. Plus never, I mean never, has anyone from the Dems addressed Hillary's investigations in a way that could be made to sound legitimate, in fact now with Loretta Lynn obstruction of justice telling Comey its not an investigation and Bill Clinton meeting with Lynch and the FBI making the decision to not prosecute there are so many questions that follow Hillary that it sounds like a criminal cartel. So whose to blame? Trump I don't think so, he wasn't even in the pic for the scandals that Hillary started but I hope he will finish them once and for all. Just like Comey dropping the biggest bomb on the Dems since he admitted NO investigation into Trump and Loretta Lynch reveal. But why dont you or therapist address these issues? CNN proved fake news and NYT's stories proved false and yet I dont hear a peep from either of you about all this. That is true Hypocrisy or the other choice is you just want your way at the cost of freedom, fair play, truth and justice. If you can explain or address these issues with some common sense I would be interested, since I have not heard any good explanation from anywhere yet. Graham: Comey never mentioned in briefings that Lynch-Clinton campaign email was fake 0:03 / 1:15 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIRdX-4Uf4c |
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Sen. Diane Feinstein (D-Calif.) said Sunday that Congress should investigate whether former Attorney General Loretta Lynch pressured former FBI Director James Comey to cover for Hillary Clinton‘s presidential campaign.
“I think we need to know more about that,” Feinstein told host Brianna Keilar on CNN’s “State of the Union.”
“And there’s only way to know about it, and that’s to have the Judiciary Committee take a look at that,” Feinstein, the top Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee, said.
Comey testified last Thursday that he felt “queasy” after Lynch asked him to characterize his probe into Clinton’s emails as a “matter,” rather than an investigation. He told the Senate Intelligence Committee that such a request would match the wording of Clinton’s campaign.
Feinstein, who is a member of the Senate Intelligence panel, said she would’ve also felt queasy.
“I would have a queasy feeling, too, though, to be candid with you,” the longtime Senate Democrat said.
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The DNC ran an unprotected servers Hillary had a server at home unprotected and you think the Russians are not supposed to explore and use the Dems flaws, REALLY, I mean REALLY?
Hillary had so many investigations, allegations, flaws and stories swirling around her that it was a hurricane wherever she went.
Both of you guys need to put on your big boy pants and accept the loss and admit the flaws and faults that caused the Dems to loose without trying to bring Trump or the Russians into the pic.
Trump has spent a short time in office and only undone Obama executive orders that should have been put through Congress on normal businesses. So any thing you don't like about this admin was done in the Obama admin, Trump is only unwinding the dictates of a corrupt and perverted previous admin.
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Sen. Diane Feinstein (D-Calif.) said Sunday that Congress should investigate whether former Attorney General Loretta Lynch pressured former FBI Director James Comey to cover for Hillary Clinton‘s presidential campaign.
“I think we need to know more about that,” Feinstein told host Brianna Keilar on CNN’s “State of the Union.”
“And there’s only way to know about it, and that’s to have the Judiciary Committee take a look at that,” Feinstein, the top Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee, said.
Comey testified last Thursday that he felt “queasy” after Lynch asked him to characterize his probe into Clinton’s emails as a “matter,” rather than an investigation. He told the Senate Intelligence Committee that such a request would match the wording of Clinton’s campaign.
Feinstein, who is a member of the Senate Intelligence panel, said she would’ve also felt queasy.
“I would have a queasy feeling, too, though, to be candid with you,” the longtime Senate Democrat said.
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"One thing is clear: The Russian government has run one of the most cost-effective and disruptive espionage operations in history. Through a few simple hacks of the DNC, some basic online trolling, and garden-variety propaganda spread by modern means, the Kremlin has turned a superpower’s politics upside down. Its chief geopolitical rival is divided, with leaders obviously more furious at each other than at the foreign power who created the crisis. Russia may well face a day of reckoning for its attack on our democracy, but for now it has won, and the magnitude of its victory increases with each petty and partisan turn in Washington’s most consequential drama." Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/446339/donald-trump-russia-2016-election-controversy-explainedI couldn't have said it better myself. It's hard to believe (not really) the most common refrain is 'show me the collusion'....'show me the crime'..... Maybe some of the last eight years' outrage should have been put in reserve to use now when it would really mean something. Could you imagine the deafening screams if Obama had done .001% of what this guy has done? Obama and the Democrats turned healthcare on its ear with a failing system that increased the costs to millions of tax paying, working Americans by over 100% in most instances, only to add 20 million onto the medicaid rolls. He lied to every American about the "law" and it was demonstrated that it was written in a manner to fool the "stupid" American voter and the gov't representatives who voted on it. Providers and insurance companies are bailing every day. There are hundreds of counties now where there is no choice any longer for the working class who pay their own bills. I'm sorry, there is NOTHING that Trump has done that equals the magnitude of this debacle. They made healthcare unattainable for those that actually have pay for it. People are actually being forced to go without health insurance and pay a fine rather than pay thousands in premiums and thousands in deductibles before they receive any benefit from what they would be paying for. So tell me, what has Trump done that even comes close to making people 'health insurance poor' and sicker because they can't afford to use it? |
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It sucks that they are not getting much done. But it is important to get to the bottom of what happened. And for me, it has nothing to do with losing the election.
You might consider pulling your head out of the sand. (Or wherever else it might be)
I may be wrong (that would be a first), but I don't recall you having this sentiment when most of us were wanting to get to the bottom of F & F coverup, IRS scandal, server gate, Bergdahl exchange, Benghazi, or any of the other F ups by the dems, these were REAL issues for concern, with real evidence of their occurance, not fairy tales and fishing expeditions. And the lies! What Commie made up about a conversation with Trump vs. the entire administration blaming the death of 4 Americans on a video, I could go on but I'm wearing out my finger. They are grasping at anything to try to get Trump. If you want to believe that Trump's campaign guys luring about secret meetings with Russian operatives, Trump's top Intelligence guy receiving Russian money and not reporting it, Trump's son in law secretly meeting with Bankers who were on the blacklist as just "grasping at anything to get Trump" then so be it. Where is the proof? Evidence of wrong doing? Where are the lies to the American people to cover it all up? BTW I have NO PROBLEM with them doing what ever it took to bring Hilary down, I only wish she had gone to prison. |
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It sucks that they are not getting much done. But it is important to get to the bottom of what happened. And for me, it has nothing to do with losing the election.
You might consider pulling your head out of the sand. (Or wherever else it might be)
I may be wrong (that would be a first), but I don't recall you having this sentiment when most of us were wanting to get to the bottom of F & F coverup, IRS scandal, server gate, Bergdahl exchange, Benghazi, or any of the other F ups by the dems, these were REAL issues for concern, with real evidence of their occurance, not fairy tales and fishing expeditions. And the lies! What Commie made up about a conversation with Trump vs. the entire administration blaming the death of 4 Americans on a video, I could go on but I'm wearing out my finger. They are grasping at anything to try to get Trump. If you want to believe that Trump's campaign guys luring about secret meetings with Russian operatives, Trump's top Intelligence guy receiving Russian money and not reporting it, Trump's son in law secretly meeting with Bankers who were on the blacklist as just "grasping at anything to get Trump" then so be it. Where is the proof? Evidence of wrong doing? Where are the lies to the American people to cover it all up? BTW I have NO PROBLEM with them doing what ever it took to bring Hilary down, I only wish she had gone to prison. Isn't that right there the definition of hypocrisy ? |
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Where is the proof? Evidence of wrong doing? Where are the lies to the American people to cover it all up?
BTW I have NO PROBLEM with them doing what ever it took to bring Hilary down, I only wish she had gone to prison.
Isn't that right there the definition of hypocrisy ? I believe, Rob, that the loose definition of hypocrisy is to pretend to be something one is not or pretend to stand for something that one does not. I don't really think wishing to have people one doesn't like held responsible for their acts while opposed to the false accusations against one's own preferred persons would qualify as hypocrisy. I supposed it could only be considered hypocrisy if one pretended that his only motivation was purely a sense of justice. If being enthused about accusations against the opposition while not so enthused about accusations against one's preferred politicians were hypocrisy it would include a lot of people, possibly even to include yourself. I don't think we want to do that.  |
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Where is the proof? Evidence of wrong doing? Where are the lies to the American people to cover it all up?
BTW I have NO PROBLEM with them doing what ever it took to bring Hilary down, I only wish she had gone to prison.
Isn't that right there the definition of hypocrisy ? I believe, Rob, that the loose definition of hypocrisy is to pretend to be something one is not or pretend to stand for something that one does not. I don't really think wishing to have people one doesn't like held responsible for their acts while opposed to the false accusations against one's own preferred persons would qualify as hypocrisy. I supposed it could only be considered hypocrisy if one pretended that his only motivation was purely a sense of justice. If being enthused about accusations against the opposition while not so enthused about accusations against one's preferred politicians were hypocrisy it would include a lot of people, possibly even to include yourself. I don't think we want to do that. Maybe. I will have to defer to your knowledge of the written word over mine. But, if one feels that doing something against one person but decrying any sort of action against another person is morally correct, well then I guess we are further apart than I realized. |
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Maybe. I will have to defer to your knowledge of the written word over mine. But, if one feels that doing something against one person but decrying any sort of action against another person is morally correct, well then I guess we are further apart than I realized.
Meat, believe me, if I thought Trump had done anything remotely close to the crimes Hillary committed, I would be one of the first calling for his trial and punishment when found guilty. I think hypocrisy is more like subjecting the dully elected POTUS to witch hunt after witch hunt, some even before he took office, as opposed to the love fest and overlooking of misdeeds that his predecessor benefited from. So far my only problem with Trump is that he left Hillary off the hook for what she did. When obummer was president, you couldn't even disagree with him with out being labeled a racist. I never liked the man, and his actions as POTUS only reinforced my dislike for him. The flat out lying by him and his cabinet were what did it for me. WE as a country deserved better, and Hillary was NOT better. We shall see about Trump, if they ever get off his ass. One day soon they will stop throwing mud at the wall to see what sticks. As for the hypocrisy, there are several on this board that fit the definition.  |
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Maybe. I will have to defer to your knowledge of the written word over mine. But, if one feels that doing something against one person but decrying any sort of action against another person is morally correct, well then I guess we are further apart than I realized.
Meat, believe me, if I thought Trump had done anything remotely close to the crimes Hillary committed, I would be one of the first calling for his trial and punishment when found guilty. I think hypocrisy is more like subjecting the dully elected POTUS to witch hunt after witch hunt, some even before he took office, as opposed to the love fest and overlooking of misdeeds that his predecessor benefited from. So far my only problem with Trump is that he left Hillary off the hook for what she did. When obummer was president, you couldn't even disagree with him with out being labeled a racist. I never liked the man, and his actions as POTUS only reinforced my dislike for him. The flat out lying by him and his cabinet were what did it for me. WE as a country deserved better, and Hillary was NOT better. We shall see about Trump, if they ever get off his ass. I don't know if Trump has done anything wrong. That is yet to be determined. But his interview where he admitted he fired Comey to get rid of the investigation doesn't look good for him. But there is no doubt that members of his campaign, members of his cabinet have done things against the law and been dishonest in their declarations. I don't believe I labeled you as a racist and I don't remember anybody else doing so. I am not arguing the case that Clinton would have been better. We will never know and "at this point, what does it matter ?" What I am arguing is that there has been more than enough smoke to warrant investigation. Our system works. We now have a special counsel to do this. His reputation is stellar, I will go with what he finds. As far as presidents being untruthful, I don't have enough time to lay out all the lies Trump has tried to put forth. |
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And since we are on th Hillary subject, remember Comey even said that she lied to the FBI, which he said was a crime, she also ran an illegal server, which Comey also said was against the law, she deleted classified info, so against the law, she gave classified info to non secure people, against the law. After all that, plus more, Comey recommends that she isn't prosecuted because she didn't intend to break the law. Total B.S.
Now, about the only thing they might have found any bit of proof on was that the Russians might have gotten into the DNCs servers and found out and exposed a bunch of bad crap that the Dems were doing, they also probably got into Hillaries stuff and found out a bunch of bad crap she was doing. So bec as use of that Trump and the Russians tting rigged the election and stole it from the Dems. Liberal logic at it's finest.
Now we got bands of thugs, sorry protesters, who are such pussies that they have to wear masks, are you pussies afraid we might recognize you, or are you actually ashamed to show your face because your cause is moronic. Who go around disrupting, assaulting and destroying property of people.
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What is hard for me to take is way back when Trump said things were hacked, the Dem's all but laughed at him including Obama. Now the Dem's say it WAS hacked by the Russians and they are upset! So it seems to me that if its hacked in their favor it's all ok. If not then its not. Trump has had nothing proved on him and the Dem's hate him. Hillary had tons of stuff proved and the Dem's loved her.
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WE have had Obama do somethings that were very questionable and down right illegal yet we had no investigation. Yet this investigation after investigation of Trump is actually hindering the work in government with no grounds and no impartiality. We have a real problem in this country with the left and the viscous attacks on Trump. I would think Trump would be wise to not have this investigation go forward considering the biased nature of the times and the investigations. I would also question the motives and guidence of the ones running the investigation. In a court these people would never be allowed to be on the Jury, why in this case would they be allowed to investigate Trump? http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/337428-four-top-legal-experts-on-muellers-team-donated-to-democratic-causesNewt Gingrich Republicans are delusional if they think the special counsel is going to be fair. Look who he is hiring.check fec reports. Time to rethink. Weissman worked at the law firm Jenner & Block LLP, during which he donated six times to political action committees for Obama in 2008 for a total of $4,700. James Quarles, donated to Sen. John Kerry’s (D-Mass.) presidential bid in 2005, Obama’s presidential PAC in 2008 and 2012, and Clinton’s presidential pac Hillary for America in 2016. Jeannie Rhee, another member of Mueller’s team, donated $5,400 to Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign PAC Hillary for America. Dreeben donated $1,000 dollars to Hillary Clinton’s Senate political action committee (PAC), Friends of Hillary http://circa.com/politics/comey-privately-told-congress-about-second-confrontation-with-the-former-attorney-generalDuring the conversation, Comey told lawmakers he confronted Lynch with a highly sensitive piece of evidence, a communication between two political figures that suggested Lynch had agreed to put the kibosh on any prosecution of Clinton. Comey said “the attorney general looked at the document then looked up with a steely silence that lasted for some time, then asked him if he had any other business with her and if not that he should leave her office,” said one source who was briefed. DC Attorney General Suing Trump Is A Big Clinton And Obama Donor http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/12/dc-attorney-general-suing-trump-is-a-big-clinton-and-obama-donor/The attorney general for Washington, D.C. who filed a lawsuit against President Trump on Monday is a major Democratic donor and gave thousands of dollars to failed presidential candidate Hillary Clinton as recently as last year. |
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“Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don’t have time for all that.”
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« Reply #68 on: June 13, 2017, 07:49:15 AM » |
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What is hard for me to take is way back when Trump said things were hacked, the Dem's all but laughed at him including Obama. Now the Dem's say it WAS hacked by the Russians and they are upset! So it seems to me that if its hacked in their favor it's all ok. If not then its not. Trump has had nothing proved on him and the Dem's hate him. Hillary had tons of stuff proved and the Dem's loved her.
If the Dem's loved her, she would have been elected. There were many on the left who weren't enamored of her at all. And if the Russians would have hacked and/or rigged the election, she would have been elected. Putin didn't want Trump in there, he wanted Hillary, with her in there he could have gotten anything he wanted from her, while watching this country go down the tubes as part of the EU on the other side of the pond, and the terrorist haven with open borders. 4yrs from now Russia would have been the only world Superpower. |
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« Reply #69 on: June 13, 2017, 09:12:24 AM » |
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"U.S. intelligence overheard a Russian operative brag about targeting Hillary Clinton in the upcoming 2016 presidential election as payback for an “influence campaign” the former secretary of state ran against Vladimir Putin five years earlier. Senior intelligence officials told Time that a Russian military intelligence officer with GRU said his group “was going to cause chaos in the upcoming U.S. election” to “pay Clinton back for what President Vladimir Putin believed was an influence operation she had run against him” during Russian elections." Daily Caller Even Breitbart says the same thing http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/05/03/comey-russia-favored-trump-putin-hated-hillary-clinton/ |
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« Reply #70 on: June 13, 2017, 09:19:34 AM » |
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"pay Clinton back for what President Vladimir Putin believed was an influence operation she had run against him” during Russian elections."
Just another thing Swirling around Clinton and another reason NOT to elect her, she dug her own hole. So when are the liberals going to accept it as a self inflicted wound and stop projecting blame on everyone else? She and Bill bled credibility from many years ago and the more you know the deeper the problem goes. So when are we going to indite her and Obama so all the secrets come out?
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“Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don’t have time for all that.”
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« Reply #71 on: June 13, 2017, 01:22:31 PM » |
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Quote: "So when are we going to indite her and Obama so all the secrets come out"? Well, for sure on Judgement Day |
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« Reply #72 on: June 13, 2017, 02:21:35 PM » |
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"U.S. intelligence overheard a Russian operative brag about targeting Hillary Clinton in the upcoming 2016 presidential election as payback for an “influence campaign” the former secretary of state ran against Vladimir Putin five years earlier. Senior intelligence officials told Time that a Russian military intelligence officer with GRU said his group “was going to cause chaos in the upcoming U.S. election” to “pay Clinton back for what President Vladimir Putin believed was an influence operation she had run against him” during Russian elections." Daily Caller Even Breitbart says the same thing http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/05/03/comey-russia-favored-trump-putin-hated-hillary-clinton/How did they cause chaos? |
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« Reply #73 on: June 13, 2017, 02:28:42 PM » |
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Deflating an um ...... oversized ego ?
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Do it while you can. I did.... it my way
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« Reply #74 on: June 13, 2017, 02:36:39 PM » |
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James Comey and special counsel Muller best friends and in direct violation of special counsel laws. There is also a question that James leaked to get a special counsel interesting that its his best friend contrary to what some here said. So they are a tag team on this issue even though Trump is totally cleared as of today in Russian collusion. This directly nulls the need for this investigation. Also Gowdy being closed lip on the fact that Clinton and the Justice dept had closer ties than we are privileged to know and caused Comey to make the decisions he did about the prosecution of Hillary. Ted Cruz recaps some of the times the rule of law was violated by the previous admin.Non of which the democrat's did anything about or were ever investigated Ted Cruz Questions Jeff Sessions. This is Awesome! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9c0SR3jvBw |
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