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Author Topic: NRA says bump stocks, devices used by Las Vegas shooter, should be regulated  (Read 3251 times)
Robert
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« Reply #80 on: October 07, 2017, 08:16:56 PM »

A couple of interesting videos that make you wonder. The first talks about the purpose for this possibly false flag incident and who will benefit. But what was also interesting is someone seemed to know this was going to happen on a website and posted some interesting predictions. Just like the woman at the beginning of the concert that said they were all going to die.

I wonder if the new 100 million dollar towers in and out of the tunnels in NY that no one will talk about  is part of this same goal of scanners everywhere. The MTA doesn't even know or will inform people of the purpose of these towers

Mysterious Metal Towers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvuzlDnFsik


Eerie Predictions in Vegas... Cui Bono?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNqxUuyHFzc


Proof that a M240 Machine Gun used in Las Vegas Shooting @ Mandalay Bay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mXe9dk77bk
So, you've moved from your ISIS inspired conspiracy ?

This is actually what I said:

Some never seem to look for connections. If you dont explore possibilities you never get any answers. Its not only about what we know, its about exploring what we dont know and eliminating possibilities, that takes speculation and a process of elimination. If you see no link to Islam then you would never look there even if it was the truth, kind of like Comey on Hillary when he made the decision before she made her statement that she was not guilty. Well at least your in good company.

Just as a side note the shooter in Ft Lauderdale airport produced a gun and started shooting and was later identified as following Islam. There was much confusion about why he did it also in the beginning.

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I still am not ruling it out since at this point I am not sure the reason why so many guns in the room and it seems that someone not only helped him but may have been in the room and left before police could arrive. The problem if you look at his life its so sketchy on how he is a millionaire and what he did to earn that much money. So far more of the pieces fit as a false flag incident.

It seems our discussions on gun control is irrelevant since a bump stock was NOT used and it sounds more like a M240 machine gun was.

Which we have not gotten a forensics report on the bullets that hit the people either and the police have not described the bullets they found at the concert in the dirt or stuck in anything hit.

 A piece of information I didn't know till today. Dont you find it curious that we dont seem to be getting all the correct information? The confusion and seemingly purposeful misdirected focus are particularly interesting since they are trying to steer attention away from something. I found the video of the metal detectors interesting and hadn't heard about the push to put these into casinos following the shooting. Like the video said follow the money.

I have also seen analysis of the sound of the shooting and according to what I have seen sonically there is not a good explanation of some of the shots and echos unless you factor in 2 or maybe 3 shooters.

What I do know is they are taking away our privacy and freedom and would not have expected this incident to factor into that agenda. But it seems to be leading in that direction. We are in some perilous times and not only from outside the US.


Sound is the same as LV, military firing M240B Machine gun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lImQ9COQ1bw



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FryeVRCCDS0067
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« Reply #81 on: October 07, 2017, 09:45:13 PM »

Serk,
You may be right.   Can't/won't argue the point.

But, I do think the bump stock legislation is going to go through with very few voting against it.  
The way I see it, it might be better to compromise and get something out of it.  (This time)

IOWs, pick yer battles.  

As I heard someone say the other day, I don't give up, I remember and wait.............

I've tried a bump stock or two. Undoubtedly fun as long as I'm not buying the ammo but not much practical use. I don't like any loss of our firearms rights, it's always just another bite taken from an already too small cake. However, if it buys wins in more useful areas then I can live with it.

Frequently when my wife is traveling she will decide that carrying her gun is not worth the constant checking of laws before she crosses into a new state and the worry that she might accidentally turn into a law breaker. We know killers don't worry about that, just the law-abiding and it needs fixed.

However, I also remember the NRA giving in on too many battles during the Clinton presidency which caused myself and many others to send our money to Jews for the preservation of firearms ownership, the GOA and other alternate civil rights groups. And that brought the NRA back where they should be eventually.

I'll trust them on this and see what happens. There are bound to be copycat killings after this last coward at the concert unfortunately. I personally think that if these people see the 2nd Amendment people do any giving we will see more killings, not less. This last guy seemed to have picked his list of firearms from the left's ban list intentionally in my opinion and I expect to see more of that. Even down to the tannerite in his car, it seemed designed to ignite the anti-gun communities and scare the citizens. Hopefully I'm wrong but it appears terrorists are specifically targeting getting Americans to give up our 2nd Amendment freedoms to me. As I said, hopefully I'm wrong.

If it appears the NRA's backing of these rule changes is a one time thing and if we gain from it somewhere else I'll continue to send them my money. If it appears to be the start of a trend, I'll keep my life membership but other donations will be going to the GOA and other groups.

I also think it's worth noting the NRA is merely encouraging the BATF to change an Obama era ruling that surprised the heck out of me in the first place. It maybe their thinking is that a change in rules is better than new laws which always come with unforeseen expansions of the loss of freedom. A mere change in rules can always be changed the same way again later without an act of Congress.
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« Reply #82 on: October 08, 2017, 07:09:26 AM »

If its a negotiation, I'd trade bump stocks for SBRs and silencers, but its more likely a what will you give up now and what will you give up later.

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