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« Reply #40 on: January 20, 2018, 05:25:52 PM »

That's not the only group of counties with that problem, for starters they ought to check out Cook Cty., Illinois.
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« Reply #41 on: January 20, 2018, 05:40:11 PM »

So maybe Trump didnt lose the popular vote after all.  ???     


In the letter, Judicial Watch noted that public records obtained on the Election Assistance Commission’s 2016 Election Administration Voting Survey and through verbal accounts from various county agencies show 11 California counties have more registered voters than voting-age citizens: Imperial (102%), Lassen (102%), Los Angeles (112%), Monterey (104%), San Diego (138%), San Francisco (114%), San Mateo (111%), Santa Cruz (109%), Solano (111%), Stanislaus (102%), and Yolo (110%).

Judicial Watch went on to report that officials from Los Angeles County since told the watchdog group in June that the “total number of registered voters now stands at a number that is a whopping 144% of the total number of resident citizens of voting age” for that county.

Yet, if memory serves me correctly. Shortly after Trump was elected there was a bipartisan committee formed to look into voter fraud in the 2016 election. Seemed to be the shortest investigation in history and they claimed they did not find anything significant.
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« Reply #42 on: January 20, 2018, 05:54:49 PM »

So maybe Trump didnt lose the popular vote after all.  ???     


In the letter, Judicial Watch noted that public records obtained on the Election Assistance Commission’s 2016 Election Administration Voting Survey and through verbal accounts from various county agencies show 11 California counties have more registered voters than voting-age citizens: Imperial (102%), Lassen (102%), Los Angeles (112%), Monterey (104%), San Diego (138%), San Francisco (114%), San Mateo (111%), Santa Cruz (109%), Solano (111%), Stanislaus (102%), and Yolo (110%).

Judicial Watch went on to report that officials from Los Angeles County since told the watchdog group in June that the “total number of registered voters now stands at a number that is a whopping 144% of the total number of resident citizens of voting age” for that county.
And he had the largest crowd in history for his inauguration .  Smiley
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« Reply #43 on: January 20, 2018, 06:14:40 PM »

So maybe Trump didnt lose the popular vote after all.  ???     


In the letter, Judicial Watch noted that public records obtained on the Election Assistance Commission’s 2016 Election Administration Voting Survey and through verbal accounts from various county agencies show 11 California counties have more registered voters than voting-age citizens: Imperial (102%), Lassen (102%), Los Angeles (112%), Monterey (104%), San Diego (138%), San Francisco (114%), San Mateo (111%), Santa Cruz (109%), Solano (111%), Stanislaus (102%), and Yolo (110%).

Judicial Watch went on to report that officials from Los Angeles County since told the watchdog group in June that the “total number of registered voters now stands at a number that is a whopping 144% of the total number of resident citizens of voting age” for that county.

And THAT is why the Demoncrats are so opposed to voter ID laws!
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« Reply #44 on: January 20, 2018, 06:16:11 PM »

So maybe Trump didnt lose the popular vote after all.  ???     


In the letter, Judicial Watch noted that public records obtained on the Election Assistance Commission’s 2016 Election Administration Voting Survey and through verbal accounts from various county agencies show 11 California counties have more registered voters than voting-age citizens: Imperial (102%), Lassen (102%), Los Angeles (112%), Monterey (104%), San Diego (138%), San Francisco (114%), San Mateo (111%), Santa Cruz (109%), Solano (111%), Stanislaus (102%), and Yolo (110%).

Judicial Watch went on to report that officials from Los Angeles County since told the watchdog group in June that the “total number of registered voters now stands at a number that is a whopping 144% of the total number of resident citizens of voting age” for that county.

And THAT is why the Demoncrats are so opposed to voter ID laws!

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« Reply #45 on: January 21, 2018, 04:42:21 AM »

White House press secretary Sarah Sanders said Saturday morning that the White House wouldn’t negotiate with Democrats on immigration at all until they agree to keep the government open, a statement she delivered just after most Democrats voted against a last-minute continuing spending resolution.

“We will not negotiate the status of unlawful immigrants while Democrats hold our lawful citizens hostage over their reckless demands,” Sanders said. “This is the behavior of obstructionist losers, not legislators. During this politically manufactured Schumer Shutdown, the President and his Administration will fight for and protect the American people.”
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« Reply #46 on: January 21, 2018, 06:23:38 AM »

I actually agree with Obama on this one... While I love a good shutdown (It illustrates how little the government actually does for most people), the GOP was wrong to do it then, the Democrats are wrong to do it now, we should never negotiate with terrorists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5utW7pjXU4
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« Reply #47 on: January 21, 2018, 09:00:25 AM »

I actually agree with Obama on this one... While I love a good shutdown (It illustrates how little the government actually does for most people), the GOP was wrong to do it then, the Democrats are wrong to do it now, we should never negotiate with terrorists.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5utW7pjXU4

That's rich, coming from the Obama side, they will not negotiate with Terrorists. Who was it that:
Traded 5 Terrorist leaders for a terrorist traitor.
Gave 145 Billion dollars to a Terrorist country so they can continue with a Nuclear program that will lead them to a weapon, with no oversight.
Gave that same country 400 million dollars in a hostage exchange.
Also lifted sanctions on that same country.
Need any more examples????
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« Reply #48 on: January 21, 2018, 09:06:35 AM »

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« Reply #49 on: January 21, 2018, 09:28:09 AM »

Like many, I would have preferred to give those that came to this county as children and those adults who have been self-supporting a path to citizenship after the wall is funded and our border secured. Because of the budget impasse I think that's no longer possible. Now, I think the best thing to do would be to start a massive deportation of illegals starting Monday.

There are only two ways to protect our border from those breaking into our country. A border they can no longer cross illegally or the certainty that they will be deported or imprisoned if they do.

Since the Dems are blocking funding the wall, our military and our government for these illegals, deporting them will leave them nothing to block the vote about except the wall. Mass deportations should also help dissuade illegal entry until we are able to get the border secured.

Although this would not be the best solution, it seems to be the only one the Dems are leaving open.
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« Reply #50 on: January 21, 2018, 09:43:52 AM »






Bob,
I'm curious.   Obviously you're anti-Trump on every topic I've seen you post here (actually, on this forum).   Just how do you propose to solve this government funding (shut down) issue?    As I understand it, the proposed funding bill contains absolutely nothing the Dems are not in support of with the exception of leaving DACA out and that has absolutely nothing to do with funding the federal government.  

Holding hostages like what occurred with ObamaCare is a no win situation.   Suggestions?

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« Reply #51 on: January 21, 2018, 10:21:19 AM »





I don’t think he will run, I think he’s in for the long haul. Time will tell.
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« Reply #52 on: January 21, 2018, 02:50:03 PM »

Some people will still think it's not the (D) side that has issues. uglystupid2

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« Reply #53 on: January 21, 2018, 02:53:58 PM »

Both sides have issues. Therein lies the problem.  Undecided
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« Reply #54 on: January 21, 2018, 02:58:59 PM »

Both sides have issues. Therein lies the problem.  Undecided

 Bottom line the Dems put a bunch of illigal alien's over the American people and paying our military. Schumer shutdown.
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« Reply #55 on: January 21, 2018, 03:02:40 PM »

Both sides have issues. Therein lies the problem.  Undecided

 Bottom line the Dems put a bunch of illigal alien's over the American people and paying our military. Schumer shutdown.

And there is the problem. Democrats putting illegals before citizens.
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« Reply #56 on: January 21, 2018, 04:03:56 PM »




Do some research. Trump has never declared personal bankruptcy. 6 times he has gotten into companies and used legal bankruptcy laws to restructure their debt. Out of the hundreds of companies he has had his hand in, not too bad a record.
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« Reply #57 on: January 21, 2018, 04:06:45 PM »




Do some research. Trump has never declared personal bankruptcy. 6 times he has gotten into companies and used legal bankruptcy laws to restructure their debt. Out of the hundreds of companies he has had his hand in, not too bad a record.



More pesky facts???? That doesn’t fit the narrative at all.
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« Reply #58 on: January 21, 2018, 04:50:14 PM »




Do some research. Trump has never declared personal bankruptcy. 6 times he has gotten into companies and used legal bankruptcy laws to restructure their debt. Out of the hundreds of companies he has had his hand in, not too bad a record.



More pesky facts???? That doesn’t fit the narrative at all.


Clever attempt at diversion. Whose name is on top of the towers and casinos?
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« Reply #59 on: January 21, 2018, 04:53:22 PM »

\Clever attempt at diversion. Whose name is on top of the towers and casinos?

Bob,
I see you are back into this thread, can I get a response to my question?


Bob,
I'm curious.   Obviously you're anti-Trump on every topic I've seen you post here (actually, on this forum).   Just how do you propose to solve this government funding (shut down) issue?    As I understand it, the proposed funding bill contains absolutely nothing the Dems are not in support of with the exception of leaving DACA out and that has absolutely nothing to do with funding the federal government.   

Holding hostages like what occurred with ObamaCare is a no win situation.   Suggestions?

Rams

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« Reply #60 on: January 21, 2018, 05:01:28 PM »

\Clever attempt at diversion. Whose name is on top of the towers and casinos?

Bob,
I see you are back into this thread, can I get a response to my question?


Bob,
I'm curious.   Obviously you're anti-Trump on every topic I've seen you post here (actually, on this forum).   Just how do you propose to solve this government funding (shut down) issue?    As I understand it, the proposed funding bill contains absolutely nothing the Dems are not in support of with the exception of leaving DACA out and that has absolutely nothing to do with funding the federal government.   

Holding hostages like what occurred with ObamaCare is a no win situation.   Suggestions?

Rams

???

Ron,

I'll be happy to answer your question. Just not right now. I've had more than a few beers and I don't want to say the wrong things. Willow wiould probably be cross with me, and you know how much I don't likw that......
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« Reply #61 on: January 21, 2018, 05:03:24 PM »

This government shut down it about ONE issue illegals and DACA, thats it. Anything else is a diversion.
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« Reply #62 on: January 21, 2018, 05:06:15 PM »

\Clever attempt at diversion. Whose name is on top of the towers and casinos?

Bob,
I see you are back into this thread, can I get a response to my question?


Bob,
I'm curious.   Obviously you're anti-Trump on every topic I've seen you post here (actually, on this forum).   Just how do you propose to solve this government funding (shut down) issue?    As I understand it, the proposed funding bill contains absolutely nothing the Dems are not in support of with the exception of leaving DACA out and that has absolutely nothing to do with funding the federal government.   

Holding hostages like what occurred with ObamaCare is a no win situation.   Suggestions?

Rams

???

Ron,

I'll be happy to answer your question. Just not right now. I've had more than a few beers and I don't want to say the wrong things. Willow wiould probably be cross with me, and you know how much I don't likw that......

Works for me.   While I am admittedly not a fan of his competition during the election campaign, that doesn't make me a fan of everything that comes out of the White House.    I especially dislike tweets.  Wink    That doesn't mean I'm blaming the President or the Republicans for this "shut down".   It's pretty obvious to me where the hold up is.   Interested to see your response/suggestions.

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« Reply #63 on: January 21, 2018, 05:07:59 PM »

\Clever attempt at diversion. Whose name is on top of the towers and casinos?

Bob,
I see you are back into this thread, can I get a response to my question?


Bob,
I'm curious.   Obviously you're anti-Trump on every topic I've seen you post here (actually, on this forum).   Just how do you propose to solve this government funding (shut down) issue?    As I understand it, the proposed funding bill contains absolutely nothing the Dems are not in support of with the exception of leaving DACA out and that has absolutely nothing to do with funding the federal government.   

Holding hostages like what occurred with ObamaCare is a no win situation.   Suggestions?

Rams

???

Ron,

I'll be happy to answer your question. Just not right now. I've had more than a few beers and I don't want to say the wrong things. Willow wiould probably be cross with me, and you know how much I don't likw that......

I get where you're coming from. I would also have to be a drunk to support the people you do.  coolsmiley
At least you have found something to ease the pain.
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« Reply #64 on: January 21, 2018, 05:12:34 PM »

\Clever attempt at diversion. Whose name is on top of the towers and casinos?

Bob,
I see you are back into this thread, can I get a response to my question?


Bob,
I'm curious.   Obviously you're anti-Trump on every topic I've seen you post here (actually, on this forum).   Just how do you propose to solve this government funding (shut down) issue?    As I understand it, the proposed funding bill contains absolutely nothing the Dems are not in support of with the exception of leaving DACA out and that has absolutely nothing to do with funding the federal government.   

Holding hostages like what occurred with ObamaCare is a no win situation.   Suggestions?

Rams

???

Ron,

I'll be happy to answer your question. Just not right now. I've had more than a few beers and I don't want to say the wrong things. Willow wiould probably be cross with me, and you know how much I don't likw that......
2funny I haven't had one beer, and I'm about to go off ! Your self control is admirable.  cooldude
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« Reply #65 on: January 21, 2018, 05:18:35 PM »

\Clever attempt at diversion. Whose name is on top of the towers and casinos?

Bob,
I see you are back into this thread, can I get a response to my question?


Bob,
I'm curious.   Obviously you're anti-Trump on every topic I've seen you post here (actually, on this forum).   Just how do you propose to solve this government funding (shut down) issue?    As I understand it, the proposed funding bill contains absolutely nothing the Dems are not in support of with the exception of leaving DACA out and that has absolutely nothing to do with funding the federal government.   

Holding hostages like what occurred with ObamaCare is a no win situation.   Suggestions?

Rams

???

Ron,

I'll be happy to answer your question. Just not right now. I've had more than a few beers and I don't want to say the wrong things. Willow wiould probably be cross with me, and you know how much I don't likw that......

I get where you're coming from. I would also have to be a drunk to support the people you do.  coolsmiley
At least you have found something to ease the pain.

You don't have to drink to be......well...you. Just your special, one'of a kind self.
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« Reply #66 on: January 21, 2018, 05:25:02 PM »

\Clever attempt at diversion. Whose name is on top of the towers and casinos?

Bob,
I see you are back into this thread, can I get a response to my question?


Bob,
I'm curious.   Obviously you're anti-Trump on every topic I've seen you post here (actually, on this forum).   Just how do you propose to solve this government funding (shut down) issue?    As I understand it, the proposed funding bill contains absolutely nothing the Dems are not in support of with the exception of leaving DACA out and that has absolutely nothing to do with funding the federal government.   

Holding hostages like what occurred with ObamaCare is a no win situation.   Suggestions?

Rams

???

Ron,

I'll be happy to answer your question. Just not right now. I've had more than a few beers and I don't want to say the wrong things. Willow wiould probably be cross with me, and you know how much I don't likw that......

I get where you're coming from. I would also have to be a drunk to support the people you do.  coolsmiley
At least you have found something to ease the pain.

You don't have to drink to be......well...you. Just your special, one'of a kind self.

Thanks  cooldude
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« Reply #67 on: January 22, 2018, 08:11:08 AM »

Assuming the government is still shut down when you read this:

Stop what you're doing.

Call the White House. Right now.

1-202-456-1111

Gotta love the master troll President Trump! Smiley
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« Reply #68 on: January 22, 2018, 08:19:51 AM »




Do some research. Trump has never declared personal bankruptcy. 6 times he has gotten into companies and used legal bankruptcy laws to restructure their debt. Out of the hundreds of companies he has had his hand in, not too bad a record.



More pesky facts???? That doesn’t fit the narrative at all.


Clever attempt at diversion. Whose name is on top of the towers and casinos?


You are a master at being vague.
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« Reply #69 on: January 22, 2018, 05:36:30 PM »

So maybe Trump didnt lose the popular vote after all.  ???     


In the letter, Judicial Watch noted that public records obtained on the Election Assistance Commission’s 2016 Election Administration Voting Survey and through verbal accounts from various county agencies show 11 California counties have more registered voters than voting-age citizens: Imperial (102%), Lassen (102%), Los Angeles (112%), Monterey (104%), San Diego (138%), San Francisco (114%), San Mateo (111%), Santa Cruz (109%), Solano (111%), Stanislaus (102%), and Yolo (110%).

Judicial Watch went on to report that officials from Los Angeles County since told the watchdog group in June that the “total number of registered voters now stands at a number that is a whopping 144% of the total number of resident citizens of voting age” for that county.

Yet, if memory serves me correctly. Shortly after Trump was elected there was a bipartisan committee formed to look into voter fraud in the 2016 election. Seemed to be the shortest investigation in history and they claimed they did not find anything significant.

Got a source for this?  Everything I read said that the committee was shut down because several states refused to cooperate.  Of course, you can imagine they're blue states.
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« Reply #70 on: January 23, 2018, 06:16:50 AM »

So it seems that President Trump's plan to wait it out and let the Senate hammer out their differences worked.

I truly expected all the Dems from blue states, including mine, to vote against the shutdown ending, just because, but what's with Rand Paul?

I don't know enough about him to understand why he would vote against all, but one other, fellow Rep Senators and a majority of the Dems.

Any one know his reasons?

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« Reply #71 on: January 23, 2018, 06:35:31 AM »

Any one know his reasons?



Fiscal hawk, trying to get the deficit under control.

“I’ll be a no vote because I’m not going to vote to continue to put the country further into debt, What I would propose is that we spent money at the same rate we spent it last year, If you do that for five years you actually balance the budget in five years.”

I'd have to double check, but I believe he's voted consistently no on every continuing resolution since he got to the Senate.
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« Reply #72 on: January 23, 2018, 07:12:32 AM »

Any one know his reasons?



Fiscal hawk, trying to get the deficit under control.

“I’ll be a no vote because I’m not going to vote to continue to put the country further into debt, What I would propose is that we spent money at the same rate we spent it last year, If you do that for five years you actually balance the budget in five years.”

I'd have to double check, but I believe he's voted consistently no on every continuing resolution since he got to the Senate.

Well, ok, if those are his reasons, he'd get my vote.  That is the single biggest issue this country faces.  Balancing the yearly budget and paying down the deficit.  If we don't do that soon, nothing else will matter.
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« Reply #73 on: January 23, 2018, 08:06:42 AM »

Any one know his reasons?



Fiscal hawk, trying to get the deficit under control.

“I’ll be a no vote because I’m not going to vote to continue to put the country further into debt, What I would propose is that we spent money at the same rate we spent it last year, If you do that for five years you actually balance the budget in five years.”

I'd have to double check, but I believe he's voted consistently no on every continuing resolution since he got to the Senate.

Well, ok, if those are his reasons, he'd get my vote.  That is the single biggest issue this country faces.  Balancing the yearly budget and paying down the deficit.  If we don't do that soon, nothing else will matter.

With a few exceptions, you are preaching to the choir.   Not sure what it'll take to get their attention.   coolsmiley

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« Reply #74 on: January 23, 2018, 08:31:40 AM »

So it seems that President Trump's plan to wait it out and let the Senate hammer out their differences worked.

I truly expected all the Dems from blue states, including mine, to vote against the shutdown ending, just because, but what's with Rand Paul?

I don't know enough about him to understand why he would vote against all, but one other, fellow Rep Senators and a majority of the Dems.

Any one know his reasons?




He's always more interested in running for President than working with one, and he's never shied away from letting the political patient die if the "cause" lives. I truly believe he's more of a Narcissist than Trump, admittedly a high bar. If he were any more a, "my way or the highway" politician, he'd Chuck Schumer. I respect his views on the deficit and would be willing to vote for him if he became the nominee, but he always forgets after a Presidential election that he didn't win, and refuses to work with what he's left with, choosing instead to sit in a corner and pout.
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« Reply #75 on: January 23, 2018, 08:36:12 AM »

So it seems that President Trump's plan to wait it out and let the Senate hammer out their differences worked.

I truly expected all the Dems from blue states, including mine, to vote against the shutdown ending, just because, but what's with Rand Paul?

I don't know enough about him to understand why he would vote against all, but one other, fellow Rep Senators and a majority of the Dems.

Any one know his reasons?

He's always more interested in running for President than working with one, and he's never shied away from letting the political patient die if the "cause" lives. I truly believe he's more of a Narcissist than Trump, admittedly a high bar. If he were any more a, "my way or the highway" politician, he'd Chuck Schumer


I completely disagree . I think it's admirable that a Senator would vote his conscience and not follow the party line. We would all be better off if they'd all do that.
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« Reply #76 on: January 23, 2018, 02:05:41 PM »

Any one know his reasons?



Fiscal hawk, trying to get the deficit under control.

“I’ll be a no vote because I’m not going to vote to continue to put the country further into debt, What I would propose is that we spent money at the same rate we spent it last year, If you do that for five years you actually balance the budget in five years.”

I'd have to double check, but I believe he's voted consistently no on every continuing resolution since he got to the Senate.


Yep. He was my pick in the primary not only because his positions most closely mirror my own but also because I respect his integrity.  

But, in retrospect, it's hard to disagree with Trump's success with the economy and the growth of our retirement accounts.  I'm not sure Rand Paul would have had the same effect if he had won. The "Trump Bump" the stock market has taken is like "Obama Phones" for the working class.  Grin
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« Reply #77 on: January 23, 2018, 04:47:44 PM »

Rand Paul is a man on an island, just like his old man.  Even had he become President, he would only have his own vote.  Such a shame.

When was the last time the R's won a gov't semi shutdown in the press.  I can not remember one.  What changed.  Maybe a five letter word.
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« Reply #78 on: January 23, 2018, 07:34:12 PM »

Correct me if I'm wrong but, wasn't this whole "shut down" based on DACA.

If, that's in fact true, then the blame can be placed on our previous Commander and Chief.

Yeah, you know the one that said he would defend the Constitution and execute the laws of the land.
That President broke his word and his oath IMHO.

A reminder:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-ssumIZIbY

Thinking DACA should be called CACA.   YMMV   coolsmiley

Pretty sure President Trump is or was just putting immigration back into the hands of Congress (where it should have been the entire time).   I believe he even stated such.   The Schummer Shut Down is total political BS.  



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« Reply #79 on: January 24, 2018, 03:42:16 AM »

New California Policy Opens Door To Illegal Immigrant Voting

California this spring will begin automatically registering adults who obtain or renew a driver’s license to vote, including potentially large numbers of non citizens and immigrants illegally living in the state.
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