A brief education for those who know little about current firearm law and the AR

[FryeVRCCDS0067]

Semi-auto firearms have been owned by American citizens for over 100 years. Functionally an AR is identical to Grandpa's old semi-auto squirrel rifle. They both fire one shot for one pull of the trigger. My deer hunting AR only hold 7 rounds while Grandpa's old semi-auto .22 rifle frequently holds 15 or more rounds.

Make sure you understand, your family heirloom semi-auto 22 rifle and so-called “assault weapons” are functionally identical. The same goes for semi-auto shotguns & pistols. A law intended for one could and will be used to cover all.

Let’s be honest, the term “assault rifle” is used for only one reason, to blur the distinction between semi-auto and full auto-firearms in the minds of the less informed.

Since 1934 full-auto firearms have been primarily restricted to use by law enforcement and the military. However, citizens rightly retained the right to own and use firearms which are not full-auto. This has not changed in 84 years.

Contrary to the belief of some, painting a firearm black or changing the configuration or material of its stock does not change how it operates or make it more dangerous.

Semi-autos are still semi-autos, full-autos are still full-autos and little has changed from the firearm operator’s standpoint in the past 100 years although from a mechanical standpoint, modern firearms are generally safer and more dependable than older firearms.

The allure of the AR is that it’s a fun rifle, primarily manufactured to shoot the light recoiling 223/5.56 round which makes it a great recreational caliber, in particular for smaller statured shooters and the recoil sensitive. This caliber is not legal for deer hunting in most states because it’s considered too weak to humanely take deer size animals. The small size/low power of this common AR round is the reason the mags can hold 10, 20 or 30 rounds.

The AR is also manufactured in larger caliber hunting configurations which are capable of humanely taking virtually any North America game animal. However, they generally hold far fewer rounds when manufactured in a hunting capable caliber such as the 450 Bushmaster.

[Gavin_Sons]

Thanks Mike 
All Liberals see is "Assault Rifle" "High capacity magazines" "full auto" "Black" and ignore everything else. 

[MAD6Gun]

 Well said Mike. But it won't do any good to explain this to liberals such as those on this board because they want those evil "black" rifles gone. Or to gun owners who "have no use" for an AR. They sit back and say since they have no use for them then nobody else does. I don't hunt so I have no use for a bolt action rifle that can hit out to 1000 yards but I would never advocate other to give them up.

[Serk]

I don't hunt so I have no use for a bolt action rifle that can hit out to 1000 yards but I would never advocate other to give them up.

What the Fudds don't understand is that once they've managed to ban the semi autos, those bolt action hunting rifles will start being referred to as "High powered tactical sniper rifles" and they'll move to ban them as well...

Freedom loving folks need to stick together, we're all in it together, you can't pacify a jackal by throwing it a piece of sacrificial meat, that'll just embolden it to come back and demand more and more and more until it's devoured everything.




First they came for the bump stocks, and I did
not speak out -
Because I thought bump stocks were silly things.

Then they came for the binary triggers, and I did
not speak out -
For I did not have a binary trigger

Then they came for the AR15's, and I did
not speak out -
For I did not have any evil assault rifles

Then they came for my hunting rifles - and there was no one left to speak for me.

(Apologies to Martin Niemöller)

[solo1]

All of these wusses demonstrate at the drop of the hat and the media covers it.  Meanwhile I see no demonstrations on the part of gun owners. I wonder if some one like Tom Selleck could make that happen or any other celebrities that are pro 2nd Amendment?

Of course we wouldn't get the coverage or the headlines would read.  "Civil Disobedience and property destruction from gun owners!!!'   

[Serk]

All of these wusses demonstrate at the drop of the hat and the media covers it.  Meanwhile I see no demonstrations on the part of gun owners. I wonder if some one like Tom Selleck could make that happen or any other celebrities that are pro 2nd Amendment?

Of course we wouldn't get the coverage or the headlines would read.  "Civil Disobedience and property destruction from gun owners!!!'   

Another problem is that most of us have jobs we need to go to and families we're actively involved in raising.

That one time we DID have a pro-liberty rally on a weekend where I wasn't working, my solution was to just bring the family with me...



But yeah, since we were peacefully protesting, there was almost no media coverage of the rally.

[0leman]

Sitting here enjoying my coffee and watching it snow, it occurs to me that the reason that the recent shooters have used the AR-15 is that it is the one that the media says one should use.  They say this by emphasizing it for weeks after a shooting.  It is not a cheap weapon to buy or shoot.  If one really wanted to kill a bunch of folks crowded together, a semi-automatic 12 gauge with number 3 or larger shells would do the trick.  just pull the trigger  and hold on.  One could buy two with 8 rounds tubes and do a lot of damage.  Maybe even reload with everyone is running around like chicken with heads off.

Of course it would the next weapon that media would be wanting to be removed from shelves.

[The emperor has no clothes]

All of these wusses demonstrate at the drop of the hat and the media covers it. 

Surely you aren't referring to these high school kids from Parkland ?

[signart]

I don't know about your grandpa, but my grandpa used automatic shot gun to hunt with and I was handed a new automatic rifle on my 16th birthday. I killed many a squirrel and rabbit with it. I also have an automatic Remington 1100 shotgun.
All this semi automatic rhetoric is pc BS. It's as if automatic fire is more tragic than if murdered by a semi automatic or a bolt action. The right keeps cowering to liberal leftist by trying to appease them by using a less threatening term. The AR15 is an automatic rifle, it's not a machine gun. Machine guns are illegal exc. class III. My 1100 is an automatic shotgun. My Nylon 66 is an automatic rifle. My 870 is semi automatic.

[Serk]

I guess seeing these useful idiots following their marching orders from others is a smidgen better than their previous hobby of eating Tide Pods... But just a smidgen.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I guess seeing these useful idiots following their marching orders from others is a smidgen better than their previous hobby of eating Tide Pods... But just a smidgen.

What a terrible way to describe these kids. 

[Serk]

I guess seeing these useful idiots following their marching orders from others is a smidgen better than their previous hobby of eating Tide Pods... But just a smidgen.

What a terrible way to describe these kids. 

Useful Idiots is a term of political jargon, and it 100% fits them.

useful idiot
NOUN
Politics
derogatory
(Originally) a citizen of a non-communist country sympathetic to communism who is regarded (by communists) as naive and susceptible to manipulation for propaganda or other purposes;
(more widely) any person similarly manipulable for political purposes.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I guess seeing these useful idiots following their marching orders from others is a smidgen better than their previous hobby of eating Tide Pods... But just a smidgen.

What a terrible way to describe these kids. 

Useful Idiots is a term of political jargon, and it 100% fits them.

useful idiot
NOUN
Politics
derogatory
(Originally) a citizen of a non-communist country sympathetic to communism who is regarded (by communists) as naive and susceptible to manipulation for propaganda or other purposes;
(more widely) any person similarly manipulable for political purposes.

I stand by my statement. That might be the most irresponsible thing I've ever seen you post.

[baldo]

I guess seeing these useful idiots following their marching orders from others is a smidgen better than their previous hobby of eating Tide Pods... But just a smidgen.

What a terrible way to describe these kids. 

Useful Idiots is a term of political jargon, and it 100% fits them.

useful idiot
NOUN
Politics
derogatory
(Originally) a citizen of a non-communist country sympathetic to communism who is regarded (by communists) as naive and susceptible to manipulation for propaganda or other purposes;
(more widely) any person similarly manipulable for political purposes.

WOW.....you're really putting it out there, Serk....

[Gavin_Sons]

I guess seeing these useful idiots following their marching orders from others is a smidgen better than their previous hobby of eating Tide Pods... But just a smidgen.

What a terrible way to describe these kids. 

Useful Idiots is a term of political jargon, and it 100% fits them.

useful idiot
NOUN
Politics
derogatory
(Originally) a citizen of a non-communist country sympathetic to communism who is regarded (by communists) as naive and susceptible to manipulation for propaganda or other purposes;
(more widely) any person similarly manipulable for political purposes.

I stand by my statement. That might be the most irresponsible thing I've ever seen you post.

says the guy that calls others Dbag.   
Serk, he is really thinking you're a Dbag right not. But you know, i'm sure you have been called worse by better people.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I guess seeing these useful idiots following their marching orders from others is a smidgen better than their previous hobby of eating Tide Pods... But just a smidgen.

What a terrible way to describe these kids. 

Useful Idiots is a term of political jargon, and it 100% fits them.

useful idiot
NOUN
Politics
derogatory
(Originally) a citizen of a non-communist country sympathetic to communism who is regarded (by communists) as naive and susceptible to manipulation for propaganda or other purposes;
(more widely) any person similarly manipulable for political purposes.

I stand by my statement. That might be the most irresponsible thing I've ever seen you post.

says the guy that calls others Dbag.   
Serk, he is really thinking you're a Dbag right not. But you know, i'm sure you have been called worse by better people.

If I thought that of Serk, I would say it. I said what I think of his statement. Fortunately there is only one on here I've said that about.

[Psychotic Bovine]

I'm with Serk on this.  Compare this mass killing and the Las Vegas one and the media reaction.  The media saw an easily manipulated group of people to further their agenda in the Florida school attack.  With Las Vegas they were dealing with a far less exploitable and impressionable group:  adults.
Heck, some in the media even inferred that since most people at the concert were probably Trump supporters, there should be no sympathy.
People who don't see this would seem to fall into the term Serk used.

[3fan4life]

Most teenagers are idiots.

That is why they are not legally allowed to purchase and or consume alcohol.

Enter into contracts and many other things that they cannot legally do.

They are still very susceptable to peer pressure and are way too easily influenced.

That's why they do things like eating Tide Pods.

[Serk]

The media saw an easily manipulated group of people to further their agenda in the Florida school attack.

The media are definitely part of it, but there are others. A veritable who's who of hard left groups are coaching, financing and supporting these "kids". (I find the irony of Planned Parenthood participating in something called "March for our Lives" palpable.)

http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/27/left-wing-donors-activists-behind-march-for-our-lives/

[MAD6Gun]

 What happened in Parkland was a tragic incident that could have been stopped if the FBI and the sheriff had done their jobs and stopped this worthless POS before he killed.

  After tragidies like this emotions run deep. But when I see a teenage girl on a podium saying "the NRA killed our friends". It makes my blood BOIL.  These stupid, left wing, asinine comments are out of line. Blaming NRA and it's members for mass shootings are on the same line as blaming Boeing for 911.

  Meathead your inference in a previos thread that people who don't want to ban AR15s somehow don't care about children safety was on this line as well. If people like you were so concerned with child safety why art you trying to get cell phoneservice banned. More kids are killed every year by texting crashes, than by guns.  So we are supposed to listen to a bunch of imature kids that know nothing of life how things are going to be in the world? I think NOT.

[MAD6Gun]

The media saw an easily manipulated group of people to further their agenda in the Florida school attack.

The media are definitely part of it, but there are others. A veritable who's who of hard left groups are coaching, financing and supporting these "kids". (I find the irony of Planned Parenthood participating in something called "March for our Lives" palpable.)

http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/27/left-wing-donors-activists-behind-march-for-our-lives/

 Yea that is RICH. An oganization that murders millions of children every year is marching for lives. 

[Gavin_Sons]

just like some on here say, ban AR's i don't have a use for them or own any so i don't care but i'm still a gun owner and enjoy shooting. What they are really saying is they don't care if you take all the guns away because they are not willing to fight for a specific type. A gun is a gun in my eyes. I don't want any of my rights trampled on.

[The emperor has no clothes]

What happened in Parkland was a tragic incident that could have been stopped if the FBI and the sheriff had done their jobs and stopped this worthless POS before he killed.

  After tragidies like this emotions run deep. But when I see a teenage girl on a podium saying "the NRA killed our friends". It makes my blood BOIL.  These stupid, left wing, asinine comments are out of line. Blaming NRA and it's members for mass shootings are on the same line as blaming Boeing for 911.

  Meathead your inference in a previos thread that people who don't want to ban AR15s somehow don't care about children safety was on this line as well. If people like you were so concerned with child safety why art you trying to get cell phoneservice banned. More kids are killed every year by texting crashes, than by guns.  So we are supposed to listen to a bunch of imature kids that know nothing of life how things are going to be in the world? I think NOT.

Would you care to quote where I said that ? Whether you listen to these kids or not is your prerogative . To call them idiots for exercising their right to speak is reprehensible .

[MAD6Gun]

What happened in Parkland was a tragic incident that could have been stopped if the FBI and the sheriff had done their jobs and stopped this worthless POS before he killed.

  After tragidies like this emotions run deep. But when I see a teenage girl on a podium saying "the NRA killed our friends". It makes my blood BOIL.  These stupid, left wing, asinine comments are out of line. Blaming NRA and it's members for mass shootings are on the same line as blaming Boeing for 911.

  Meathead your inference in a previos thread that people who don't want to ban AR15s somehow don't care about children safety was on this line as well. If people like you were so concerned with child safety why art you trying to get cell phoneservice banned. More kids are killed every year by texting crashes, than by guns.  So we are supposed to listen to a bunch of imature kids that know nothing of life how things are going to be in the world? I think NOT.

Would you care to quote where I said that ? Whether you listen to these kids or not is your prerogative . To call them idiots for exercising their right to speak is reprehensible .

 You said on another thread about banning ARs that you wanted to ban them because "you cared for children safety" that to me was a inference by you that those (like me) don't care about children because we don't want to ban AR15s.  Don't you remember saying that? Or am I going to have to find the thread.

[The emperor has no clothes]

What happened in Parkland was a tragic incident that could have been stopped if the FBI and the sheriff had done their jobs and stopped this worthless POS before he killed.

  After tragidies like this emotions run deep. But when I see a teenage girl on a podium saying "the NRA killed our friends". It makes my blood BOIL.  These stupid, left wing, asinine comments are out of line. Blaming NRA and it's members for mass shootings are on the same line as blaming Boeing for 911.

  Meathead your inference in a previos thread that people who don't want to ban AR15s somehow don't care about children safety was on this line as well. If people like you were so concerned with child safety why art you trying to get cell phoneservice banned. More kids are killed every year by texting crashes, than by guns.  So we are supposed to listen to a bunch of imature kids that know nothing of life how things are going to be in the world? I think NOT.

Would you care to quote where I said that ? Whether you listen to these kids or not is your prerogative . To call them idiots for exercising their right to speak is reprehensible .

 You said on another thread about banning ARs that you wanted to ban them because "you cared for children safety" that to me was a inference by you that those (like me) don't care about children because we don't want to ban AR15s.  Don't you remember saying that? Or am I going to have to find the thread.

Find it. You are full of crap.

[Psychotic Bovine]

What happened in Parkland was a tragic incident that could have been stopped if the FBI and the sheriff had done their jobs and stopped this worthless POS before he killed.

  After tragidies like this emotions run deep. But when I see a teenage girl on a podium saying "the NRA killed our friends". It makes my blood BOIL.  These stupid, left wing, asinine comments are out of line. Blaming NRA and it's members for mass shootings are on the same line as blaming Boeing for 911.

  Meathead your inference in a previos thread that people who don't want to ban AR15s somehow don't care about children safety was on this line as well. If people like you were so concerned with child safety why art you trying to get cell phoneservice banned. More kids are killed every year by texting crashes, than by guns.  So we are supposed to listen to a bunch of imature kids that know nothing of life how things are going to be in the world? I think NOT.

Would you care to quote where I said that ? Whether you listen to these kids or not is your prerogative . To call them idiots for exercising their right to speak is reprehensible .

"Because they "want" them. Their desires outweigh the greater good of our kids." - Meathead

[MAD6Gun]

Thanks Bro. Meathead in case your memory is so bad YOUR quote is from the thread "Media ignoring 1 crucial factor in Florida school shooting.".. Page 2. Want to deny it NOW. I'm full of crap. Nope that would be you.

[Gavin_Sons]

What happened in Parkland was a tragic incident that could have been stopped if the FBI and the sheriff had done their jobs and stopped this worthless POS before he killed.

  After tragidies like this emotions run deep. But when I see a teenage girl on a podium saying "the NRA killed our friends". It makes my blood BOIL.  These stupid, left wing, asinine comments are out of line. Blaming NRA and it's members for mass shootings are on the same line as blaming Boeing for 911.

  Meathead your inference in a previos thread that people who don't want to ban AR15s somehow don't care about children safety was on this line as well. If people like you were so concerned with child safety why art you trying to get cell phoneservice banned. More kids are killed every year by texting crashes, than by guns.  So we are supposed to listen to a bunch of imature kids that know nothing of life how things are going to be in the world? I think NOT.

Would you care to quote where I said that ? Whether you listen to these kids or not is your prerogative . To call them idiots for exercising their right to speak is reprehensible .

 You said on another thread about banning ARs that you wanted to ban them because "you cared for children safety" that to me was a inference by you that those (like me) don't care about children because we don't want to ban AR15s.  Don't you remember saying that? Or am I going to have to find the thread.

Find it. You are full of crap.

http://www.valkyrieforum.com/bbs/index.php/topic,99544.40.html reply #49

[The emperor has no clothes]

Thanks Bro. Meathead in case your memory is so bad YOUR quote is from the thread "Media ignoring 1 crucial factor in Florida school shooting.".. Page 2. Want to deny it NOW. I'm full of crap. Nope that would be you.

So tell me again why these automatic and semiautomatic  weapons need to be available to the genl public....I missed your response....
Because they "want" them. Their desires outweigh the greater good of our kids.

This ? Yes, you are full of crap. I said nothing about banning AR15's or any other semi autos. I responded to a question of why someone asked why "the right" needed them. See the difference. I have never advocated for the banning of any guns. I have advocated for restrictions on 30 round magazines. Maybe you should read what is written and not what you want to hear.

[Psychotic Bovine]

Thanks Bro. Meathead in case your memory is so bad YOUR quote is from the thread "Media ignoring 1 crucial factor in Florida school shooting.".. Page 2. Want to deny it NOW. I'm full of crap. Nope that would be you.

So tell me again why these automatic and semiautomatic  weapons need to be available to the genl public....I missed your response....
Because they "want" them. Their desires outweigh the greater good of our kids.

This ? Yes, you are full of crap. I said nothing about banning AR15's or any other semi autos. I responded to a question of why someone asked why "the right" needed them. See the difference. I have never advocated for the banning of any guns. I have advocated for restrictions on 30 round magazines. Maybe you should read what is written and not what you want to hear.

Dude, deflect all you want;  you got schooled, pwned, taken to task, smacked down, showed the door.... I could go on.
 

[The emperor has no clothes]

Thanks Bro. Meathead in case your memory is so bad YOUR quote is from the thread "Media ignoring 1 crucial factor in Florida school shooting.".. Page 2. Want to deny it NOW. I'm full of crap. Nope that would be you.

So tell me again why these automatic and semiautomatic  weapons need to be available to the genl public....I missed your response....
Because they "want" them. Their desires outweigh the greater good of our kids.

This ? Yes, you are full of crap. I said nothing about banning AR15's or any other semi autos. I responded to a question of why someone asked why "the right" needed them. See the difference. I have never advocated for the banning of any guns. I have advocated for restrictions on 30 round magazines. Maybe you should read what is written and not what you want to hear.

Dude, deflect all you want;  you got schooled, pwned, taken to task, smacked down, showed the door.... I could go on.
 

and here all this time I thought you were smarter than your brother. The question was asked why do you "need" these weapons. My response was they don't. They desire them. Their (your) desires are greater than the the welfare of our children. Nowhere in there is an advocation of banning any weapons. Schooled ? I think not.

[henry 008]

mr korwin explains real well why we need AR15's

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6o-xjOhnIs

[Psychotic Bovine]

Thanks Bro. Meathead in case your memory is so bad YOUR quote is from the thread "Media ignoring 1 crucial factor in Florida school shooting.".. Page 2. Want to deny it NOW. I'm full of crap. Nope that would be you.

So tell me again why these automatic and semiautomatic  weapons need to be available to the genl public....I missed your response....
Because they "want" them. Their desires outweigh the greater good of our kids.

This ? Yes, you are full of crap. I said nothing about banning AR15's or any other semi autos. I responded to a question of why someone asked why "the right" needed them. See the difference. I have never advocated for the banning of any guns. I have advocated for restrictions on 30 round magazines. Maybe you should read what is written and not what you want to hear.

Dude, deflect all you want;  you got schooled, pwned, taken to task, smacked down, showed the door.... I could go on.
 

and here all this time I thought you were smarter than your brother. The question was asked why do you "need" these weapons. My response was they don't. They desire them. Their (your) desires are greater than the the welfare of our children. Nowhere in there is an advocation of banning any weapons. Schooled ? I think not.

A constitutional right requires no "need".  
Just a bit above my response is your quote again:
"So tell me again why these automatic and semiautomatic  weapons need to be available to the genl public....I missed your response....
Because they "want" them. Their desires outweigh the greater good of our kids."

That's pretty cut and dried.  Ever thought about running for office?  You can talk out of your a$$ as good as any politician I have ever seen.  You say you never said something, then when someone gives you evidence, you deflect and lie when the evidence is right there.
I might not be smarter than my brother, I have no idea.  I am pretty sure I am smarter than you, though. (however, I'm not smart enough to know if this violates the "rules of the road".  But, what the heck; it's better to ask forgiveness than to ask permission.)

[Leathel]

Here in New Zealand you can own AR type rifles (some are trying to ban them here too....but not ATM) but we have 2 classes of Semi autos

A Cat, 7 round mag capacity, No bayonet fitting and no military type grip..the last one is sort of stupid..... but stocks are available in A cat that are pretty much the same (the grip does not make it more dangerous)

E Cat, can have a semi auto version of the military type rifle  with big mags etc (no Auto) need a special license, a better safe and a valid reason to have said license, can be competition shooting, pest control etc (Self security is not a valid reason)

Its not your "right" to carry arms but if you are a fit and proper person you can easily get a license to own as many as you like....A cat that is, or get the license extension for E & B cat (B pistol)

You have to have character references, get vetted every 10 years, if you are caught poaching, using firearms recklessly you can loose your license so people are careful.....mostly.... Not perfect but weeds out many nutters that should not have access to guns and ammo (can not purchase without said license)



Meathead I guess you are talking about the "right" to own an AR vs Being a fit and proper person to be allowed to own one?

[The emperor has no clothes]

Here in New Zealand you can own AR type rifles (some are trying to ban them here too....but not ATM) but we have 2 classes of Semi autos

A Cat, 7 round mag capacity, No bayonet fitting and no military type grip..the last one is sort of stupid..... but stocks are available in A cat that are pretty much the same (the grip does not make it more dangerous)

E Cat, can have a semi auto version of the military type rifle  with big mags etc (no Auto) need a special license, a better safe and a valid reason to have said license, can be competition shooting, pest control etc (Self security is not a valid reason)

Its not your "right" to carry arms but if you are a fit and proper person you can easily get a license to own as many as you like....A cat that is, or get the license extension for E & B cat (B pistol)

You have to have character references, get vetted every 10 years, if you are caught poaching, using firearms recklessly you can loose your license so people are careful.....mostly.... Not perfect but weeds out many nutters that should not have access to guns and ammo (can not purchase without said license)



Meathead I guess you are talking about the "right" to own an AR vs Being a fit and proper person to be allowed to own one?

Actually, neither. I have no problem with them. Although I would like better background checks.  What I have a problem with is the virtually unlimited magazine capacity. A restriction on magazine capacity would help. A restriction on bump stocks would help. Better restrictions on ownership for mentally sick people would help. None of these are going to stop the gun violence problems we have here in the U.S., but will help. We have over 300 million guns here, the only solution many seem to have is "we need more guns".
 Be prepared for the onslaught Leathel.  Many here don't think people from other countries should discuss this issue.

[Psychotic Bovine]

I did forget to add that full automatic weapons have been HEAVILY regulated since 1934.  But, I imagine Meathead knows that, but like nearly every anti-gunner, wants to muddy the waters to make his case.

You can own a full auto in the US, but it requires an extensive background check, and a $250 tax stamp.  In addition to this, even a "basic" AR platform or even an UZI is well over $30,000 purchase price.  And belt fed full autos can top 6 figures.

Just like you don't "need" to be able to speak out, or peaceably assemble, the right to bear arms is still a right just like free speech.  Thankfully, rights don't need anyone's permission.  Thank God for the Constitution.

Keep in mind, the government could easily try to limit free speech (on the internet and social media), using the argument of all of those kids being bullied to the point of suicide.  I mean, for goodness sake, DO IT FOR THE CHILDREN!   THE CHILDREN!

[Psychotic Bovine]

And for the record, there is no such thing as unlimited capacity.  Even the universe has limits.

[old2soon]

Soooooooooooo according to the lame stream liberal media I have already owned-their words NOT mine-a dasturdly "assault rifle" when in FACT I only owned a Remington Nylon 66 in .22 caliber. I had found some plastic or nylon tubing of the proper size to put rounds into in the proper orientation so as to speed up the reloading process. IF I rekemember I Believe I had 7 or 8 of these tubes built that I carried on my belt so reloads were quick and efficient so as to eliminate as many rats at the dump as I could on 1 pass. Then it was back to the pickup reload tubes and the rifle smoke a cig and then git back to the rat killin. Generally went thru 2 bricks a time up at the dump but did 5 bricks one night cuz I'd caught a sale on .22 long rifle hollow point. So my Remington Nylon 66 with the Weaver 2 X 6 variable scope would be outlawed as an "assault weapon" should the liberals git their way? How bout this-I'll go along with the ban ONLY when after the next carr accident and any other accidents after with death and/or injuries sees ALL models of the vehicles involved in said accident(s) are banned FOREVER no matter who's at fault. And should the little darlins be talkin or textin those evil cell phones will get permanently banned also. Slippery slope but that COULD just be me. RIDE SAFE.

[Psychotic Bovine]

unlimited ammo capacity!

[baldo]

unlimited ammo capacity!

Looks like a gown.