Front Brake Rotors

[pancho]

I came across these rotors, new ones have been on the back burner of my wish list for a couple of years. Mine have been under 4mm for awhile, (about 3.7 now). I have done a bit of research and they should fit and work just fine. My concern is they are supported on the wheel with that web instead of a solid aluminum disc as the originals are. I questioned the seller, and was informed that the "web" is made from 6061 aluminum. I wonder about them caving in under emergency stopping of an 800 pound machine, gear and rider. The price they are selling them for is for both discs, left and right which makes them attractive. Any thoughts on the structural integrity of the design for our application would be appreciated.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/141641224847?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

[h13man]

According to EBC listing they use the same rotors on the front.

[gordonv]

I looked up pictures of my 99' IS, and the front rotors are floating ones, like in the ebay link. Also fairly sure that the rear one is a single solid one.

I did a search on ebay, and there was a post with 2 front rotors, floating, and a solid rear one.

[Colin]

I have similar on the front of my Valk. I use the front brakes a lot as all my riding is done on twisty mountain roads. 2 years on and 3 sets of pads later no issues.

[hubcapsc]

I got a rear one on eBay from a wrecked bike with about 20K on it for
20 or 30 dollars... it was perfect compared to my old one, which had a
big lip on it...

There's a couple of OEM sets on there now that are probably good to
go for less than $100 each set...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/98-Honda-Valkyrie-GL-1500-Front-Left-Right-Brake-Rotor-/291654857379?hash=item43e7fbf2a3:g:WJsAAOSwcBhWZYGC&vxp=mtr

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xhonda+valkyrie+front+rotor.TRS0&_nkw=honda+valkyrie+front+rotor&_sacat=0

-Mike

[98valk]

go lighter and reduce some un-sprung weight. sometimes searching for one of the other bikes will bring a lower price. a lot of listings, like to attach a premium $$ because of the word "Valkyrie".

http://www.ebay.com/itm/281279306322?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

This Item Will Fit
HONDA ST 1100 Pan European L-Y,1 SC26  F440  Rear 1990-1992
HONDA ST 1100 Pan Europaen ABS-TCS AN,AP,AR,AS SC26 F440 1992 - 1995
HONDA VTX1800/VTX 1800C C1-CA8  SC46 e4*0113 Rear 02-09
HONDA VTX 1800F  F SC46 e4*0113 Rear 2005-2011
HONDA VTX 1800N N SC46 e4*0113 Rear 2004-2011
HONDA VTX 1800R R1-R7 SC46 e4*0113 Rear 2002-2007
HONDA VTX 1800 S  S1 SC46 e4*0113 Rear 2002-2007
HONDA VTX 1800T T SC46 e4*0113 Rear 2007-2011
HONDA GL 1500 Goldwing L- SC22 E931 1990-2000
HONDA GL 1500 Goldwing A SC22 E931 1990-2000
HONDA GL 1500 Goldwing Interstate I 1990-2000
HONDA GL 1500 Goldwing SE SC22 E931 1990-2000
HONDA GL F6C VALKYRIE /GL 1500 Valkyrie C (SC34/H582) 1500CC 1997-2003
HONDA GL 1500 Valkyrie C /CD /CF  (SC34/H582) 2000-2003
HONDA  GL 1500 Valkyrie Interstate CI (SC34/H582) 2000-2003
HONDA GL 1500 Valkyrie Tourer CT SC34 H582 1997 - 1999

[..]

Some are from China. I would not buy a piece of safety equipment from a supplier of no known history.

Been burnt a couple of times recently with crap quality and crap return policy.

[pancho]

I already tried a set of used ones from eBay that were measured good awhile back,,, when I received and measured them, they were about down to minimum (same as mine) and had groves in them,, this time I am going for new ones, just not sure yet on weather I trust that aftermarket design.  Colin gives me a bit of confidence in it, but have not made a decision yet.

 When you see those bikes on eBay being stripped out with all the aftermarket accessories and not damaged that bad, makes you wonder who owned that bike,, why didn't he buy it back,, I'd hate to see mine there!

[hubcapsc]

I already tried a set of used ones from eBay that were measured good awhile back,,, when I received and measured them, they were about down to minimum (same as mine) and had groves in them,, this time I am going for new ones, just not sure yet on weather I trust that aftermarket design.  Colin gives me a bit of confidence in it, but have not made a decision yet.

Yeah... you're getting a pig in a poke from eBay, that's for sure. I wasn't
in a hurry, and hit "buy" when I saw a low mileage cheap one, and
lucked out... low mileage is important on used rotors, they'd have to
be damaged from something other than use to be bad, or maybe
from someone who rode their brakes all the time...

-Mike

[Ricky-D]

They'll be fine. Go ahead and get them if you want. The only foreseeable problem would be they wear down fast, but if you're

using metallic pads this would be something you'd have to expect.  That's a great price for the set. Buy two and keep one for

the future.

***

[Colin]

I use organic pads on mine that is why they wear out relatively quickly. I have no discernible wear on the discs (rotors) and no lipping. I will get a photo for you, hopefully later if it stops raining. The only difference between mine and those you showed is that mine are slotted rather than drilled. Subjectively I reckon they stop better than standard possibly because the cooling is better with the slots, I know I have surprised a couple of guys I ride with when I have had to apply some firm braking.

When these wear I will replace them with the same, I got them from someone in the UK who had bought them and never fitted them before he sold his Valk, they came in a plain box which was not the original they came in so am not sure who they are made by.

[pancho]

I also use organic pads,, for the reason that they are easier on the rotors. I bought my bike with 38000, but it already had the front rotors shot with the rear one like new. The PO may have had a bad habit of keeping his hand on the lever. I may use some metallic  pads on the new rotors eventually, but will probably start with a set of Kevlar to see how they feel.

My concern was the strength of the web supporting the disc, but the more I look, and the more that chime in, I see that it seems to be an acceptable design, so I believe I will probably go with the ones I showed... unless I hear a horror story about similar ones from someone before I buy.

BTW   I like your dragon graphics on the modified fender.

[pancho]

Well, I pulled the trigger on Friday the 26th on these rotors     http://www.ebay.com/itm/141641224847?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT        in China, and FedEx delivered them to my door today,,     I'm impressed!   They spec out in their dimensions, but I cannot install them until the new pads arrive,, I decided to try some sintered HH just to see what really good brakes feel like,,, I may change back to organics in a couple of weeks just to see the difference. Looking forward to getting them installed,, under $200 for the set to my door in just a few days.

[98valk]

Well, I pulled the trigger on Friday the 26th on these rotors     http://www.ebay.com/itm/141641224847?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT        in China, and FedEx delivered them to my door today,,     I'm impressed!   They spec out in their dimensions, but I cannot install them until the new pads arrive,, I decided to try some sintered HH just to see what really good brakes feel like,,, I may change back to organics in a couple of weeks just to see the difference. Looking forward to getting them installed,, under $200 for the set to my door in just a few days.

OEM are sintered bronze HH.  organics will give less braking performance. sintered bronze HH give best braking performance and are easy on rotors.
u do know that Chinese metal stainless are very poorly made. very inconsistent in the metallurgy. that is what happens when they just take a bunch of metal, melt it all in one pot and whatever comes out was made into your disks. 

[pancho]

Well, I'll be sure to let you know how they're holding up in a couple of years CA, but I expect to get a long life out of them. Stainless grades made in China are specked for content percentages the same as stainless made anywhere else, my only concern with these was the design of the web, but those concerns were put to rest.

" that is what happens when they just take a bunch of metal, melt it all in one pot "  I remember when that was said about Japanese steel  

[98valk]

Well, I'll be sure to let you know how they're holding up in a couple of years CA, but I expect to get a long life out of them. Stainless grades made in China are specked for content percentages the same as stainless made anywhere else, my only concern with these was the design of the web, but those concerns were put to rest.

" that is what happens when they just take a bunch of metal, melt it all in one pot "  I remember when that was said about Japanese steel  

I pray u got good stuff. wish nothing bad on ya. 

[pancho]

Thanks brother,,, I did enough research to have every confidence in them.   You'll be the first to know if I did wrong.

[98valk]

Thanks brother,,, I did enough research to have every confidence in them.   You'll be the first to know if I did wrong.

just have heard horror stories about china made rotors for trucks and cars the last few yrs. early warpage for most.

[Rio Wil]

Thanks brother,,, I did enough research to have every confidence in them.   You'll be the first to know if I did wrong.

Just out of curiosity are the rotors marked L/R or have directional arrows on them.
As far as that goes, why are the oem rotors directional.....marked with directional arrows.
They appear to be identical parts......whats up?

[gordonv]

If the rotor is directional (L/R) then they are slotted (or holes) in a certain direction.

[pancho]

And these with the holes drilled on radius are not specified for left or right fitment.

[pancho]

Well, here they are on the bike,, not sure about that chariot wheel look, but I'm getting used to it. Sintered HH pads all around and new rotors on the front,, quiet and brakes great all the time. I had been running organics, and they took a bit more grip,, just didn't feel as strong as these, and these feel great every time cold, warm or hot,, I think I'll stick with these pads for awhile.  So the rotors were under $200 for the set with three day delivery...        I'm happy

[98valk]

Well, here they are on the bike,, not sure about that chariot wheel look, but I'm getting used to it. Sintered HH pads all around and new rotors on the front,, quiet and brakes great all the time. I had been running organics, and they took a bit more grip,, just didn't feel as strong as these, and these feel great every time cold, warm or hot,, I think I'll stick with these pads for awhile.  So the rotors were under $200 for the set with three day delivery...        I'm happy

  looks great with the black caliper and black/yellow fender.   

Sintered HH pads are the only way to go. that is what oem are rated at.
valkyrie still in top 5.

Shortest 60–0 Stops
1] 2006 Triumph Speed Triple . . . . . . . . . . 104.8'
2] 2008 BMW Megamoto. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 106.4'
3] 1999 Triumph Speed Triple . . . . . . . . . . 106.7'
4] 1997 F6 Valkyrie. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 107.4'
5] 1997 Suzuki Marauder 800 . . . . . . . . . . 107.6'

> MCN Performance Index for Winter '14/'15 Edition
http://www.mcnews.com/mcn/article_index.asp

[pancho]

Hey guys, well it's been a year and maybe 5K miles on these rotors. (guess I didn't ride that much last year)  While I have not done any extreme riding, and these rotors have not been subjected to glowing racing conditions, they are working just fine with no undue noise or warping,, no surprises. Next time I need rotors for a Valk, I will buy the Chinese ones from the BRAKE DISC FACTORY again, they are a great value.

 I decided to stick with the sintered H pads because they preform so well, and while I only have 5K or so miles on the rotors, there is no discernible wear on them yet. I'm happy and can recommend them.

[98valk]

Thanks for the update. 


for your info.
http://www.sixity.com/brake-pad-selection-guide

[..]

Thanks for the update. 


for your info.
http://www.sixity.com/brake-pad-selection-guide

I've used Sixity brake pads for years. They work well.

[Gabriel]

Those rotors look good to me!
I use Ceramic pads, (sixity) and agree with the below;
"These pads use ceramic compounds and copper fibers in place of the semi-metallic pad's steel fibers. This allows the ceramic pads to handle high brake temperatures with less heat fade, provide faster recovery after the stop, and generate less dust and wear on both the pads and rotors. And from a comfort standpoint, ceramic compounds provide much quieter braking because the ceramic compound helps dampen noise by generating a frequency beyond the human hearing range." (my dogs hate them )

(Information gleaned from Tire Rack)

[98valk]

I want immediate, superior, stop on a dime, stopping power in ALL temperatures and wet conditions, Sintered Bronze HH rated is the ONLY pad material to provide that. All other materials are inferior to SB HH.

[Gabriel]

If you want immediate, superior, stop on a dime, stopping power in ALL temperatures and wet conditions, you will have to buy another bike because it can't be found in a Valk.

[98valk]

If you want immediate, superior, stop on a dime, stopping power in ALL temperatures and wet conditions, you will have to buy another bike because it can't be found in a Valk.

sorry your incorrect.
Sintered HH pads are the only way to go. that is what oem are rated at.
valkyrie still in top 5.

Shortest 60–0 Stops
1] 2006 Triumph Speed Triple . . . . . . . . . . 104.8'
2] 2008 BMW Megamoto. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 106.4'
3] 1999 Triumph Speed Triple . . . . . . . . . . 106.7'
4] 1997 F6 Valkyrie. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 107.4'
5] 1997 Suzuki Marauder 800 . . . . . . . . . . 107.6'

> MCN Performance Index for Winter '14/'15 Edition
http://www.mcnews.com/mcn/article_index.asp

[Gabriel]

If you want immediate, superior, stop on a dime, stopping power in ALL temperatures and wet conditions, you will have to buy another bike because it can't be found in a Valk.

sorry your incorrect.
Sintered HH pads are the only way to go. that is what oem are rated at.
valkyrie still in top 5.

Shortest 60–0 Stops
1] 2006 Triumph Speed Triple . . . . . . . . . . 104.8'
2] 2008 BMW Megamoto. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 106.4'
3] 1999 Triumph Speed Triple . . . . . . . . . . 106.7'
4] 1997 F6 Valkyrie. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 107.4'
5] 1997 Suzuki Marauder 800 . . . . . . . . . . 107.6'

> MCN Performance Index for Winter '14/'15 Edition
http://www.mcnews.com/mcn/article_index.asp

Up until a few years ago I rode sports bikes Zx14, Hayabusa and neither one of the Valkyries I've owned stop anywhere near as good as one of those.

BTW: The link did not lead to the article?

[98valk]

If you want immediate, superior, stop on a dime, stopping power in ALL temperatures and wet conditions, you will have to buy another bike because it can't be found in a Valk.

sorry your incorrect.
Sintered HH pads are the only way to go. that is what oem are rated at.
valkyrie still in top 5.

Shortest 60–0 Stops
1] 2006 Triumph Speed Triple . . . . . . . . . . 104.8'
2] 2008 BMW Megamoto. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 106.4'
3] 1999 Triumph Speed Triple . . . . . . . . . . 106.7'
4] 1997 F6 Valkyrie. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 107.4'
5] 1997 Suzuki Marauder 800 . . . . . . . . . . 107.6'

> MCN Performance Index for Winter '14/'15 Edition
http://www.mcnews.com/mcn/article_index.asp

Up until a few years ago I rode sports bikes Zx14, Hayabusa and neither one of the Valkyries I've owned stop anywhere near as good as one of those.

BTW: The link did not lead to the article?

the link leads to all of their PDF test results.
zx14  60-0mph 116'
busa   60-0mph 112'
neither are shorter than a STD.
Valkyrie I/S  60-0mph  116'
Valkyrie tourer  60-0mph 114'
I've see other magazine test reports all list the same +/- 1 or 2 ft.
anybody who uses brake pads that are not sintered bronze HH (what the busa and zx use)  will have longer stopping distances, ceramic is one of the worst, which u posted u use.

[Gabriel]

If you want immediate, superior, stop on a dime, stopping power in ALL temperatures and wet conditions, you will have to buy another bike because it can't be found in a Valk.

sorry your incorrect.
Sintered HH pads are the only way to go. that is what oem are rated at.
valkyrie still in top 5.

Shortest 60–0 Stops
1] 2006 Triumph Speed Triple . . . . . . . . . . 104.8'
2] 2008 BMW Megamoto. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 106.4'
3] 1999 Triumph Speed Triple . . . . . . . . . . 106.7'
4] 1997 F6 Valkyrie. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 107.4'
5] 1997 Suzuki Marauder 800 . . . . . . . . . . 107.6'

> MCN Performance Index for Winter '14/'15 Edition
http://www.mcnews.com/mcn/article_index.asp

Up until a few years ago I rode sports bikes Zx14, Hayabusa and neither one of the Valkyries I've owned stop anywhere near as good as one of those.

BTW: The link did not lead to the article?

the link leads to all of their PDF test results.
zx14  60-0mph 116'
busa   60-0mph 112'
neither are shorter than a STD.
Valkyrie I/S  60-0mph  116'
Valkyrie tourer  60-0mph 114'
I've see other magazine test reports all list the same +/- 1 or 2 ft.
anybody who uses brake pads that are not sintered bronze HH (what the busa and zx use)  will have longer stopping distances, ceramic is one of the worst, which u posted u use.

I guess it all up to who's article you want to believe. My Valkyrie stops better with the ceramics than with whatever was on it.
For what it's worth, my car does also...

[98valk]

If you want immediate, superior, stop on a dime, stopping power in ALL temperatures and wet conditions, you will have to buy another bike because it can't be found in a Valk.

sorry your incorrect.
Sintered HH pads are the only way to go. that is what oem are rated at.
valkyrie still in top 5.

Shortest 60–0 Stops
1] 2006 Triumph Speed Triple . . . . . . . . . . 104.8'
2] 2008 BMW Megamoto. . . . . . . . . . . . . . 106.4'
3] 1999 Triumph Speed Triple . . . . . . . . . . 106.7'
4] 1997 F6 Valkyrie. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 107.4'
5] 1997 Suzuki Marauder 800 . . . . . . . . . . 107.6'

> MCN Performance Index for Winter '14/'15 Edition
http://www.mcnews.com/mcn/article_index.asp

Up until a few years ago I rode sports bikes Zx14, Hayabusa and neither one of the Valkyries I've owned stop anywhere near as good as one of those.

BTW: The link did not lead to the article?

the link leads to all of their PDF test results.
zx14  60-0mph 116'
busa   60-0mph 112'
neither are shorter than a STD.
Valkyrie I/S  60-0mph  116'
Valkyrie tourer  60-0mph 114'
I've see other magazine test reports all list the same +/- 1 or 2 ft.
anybody who uses brake pads that are not sintered bronze HH (what the busa and zx use)  will have longer stopping distances, ceramic is one of the worst, which u posted u use.

I guess it all up to who's article you want to believe. My Valkyrie stops better with the ceramics than with whatever was on it.
For what it's worth, my car does also...

your providing an example to ceramics from an unknown. maybe an organic pad is what u replaced which has a lower coefficient of friction than ceramic.
 Some ceramics have a high initial bite which some perceive as better braking but then they fade and don't have the shorter stopping distance vs sintered bronze HH pad which has the highest coefficient of friction of all street pads. next pads try OEM then u will know.

[Gabriel]

I already know what I need to know about this subject.
Do whatever makes you happy, I'm not trying to convince anyone about anything, I have experiences and opinions like everyone.
I will stop here, I'm beginning to feel like I need a tetanus shot..

[pancho]

  We sure do like our bikes boys, I guess some things can be counted on to stay the same,,,,   others;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4Ao-iNPPUc