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« Reply #40 on: May 01, 2018, 04:44:00 AM » |
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Blood, chainsaws, Valks, tires, riding... arguing... in the same thread. Would this be an example of 'diversity' or 'multi-culturalism'?
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« Reply #41 on: May 01, 2018, 05:25:13 AM » |
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It's called stream of consciousness. The (normal) human mind wanders. It gets bored in one place. Oh look........ nice hooters.  I'm as guilty of thread drifting as anyone, but I generally try to let the original poster get his answer(s) or the discussion of the original (narrow) issue peter out before I do it. Many drifts keep the discussions going, and would not really be worthy of a new thread topic (but some are). |
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Willow
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« Reply #42 on: May 01, 2018, 06:44:15 AM » |
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The difference between presume and assume is the presence or absence of evidence. I presume youy meant assume. Assume nothing. You know what assume does to us. I'm well aware that thread drift and conversation takes place. Sometimes it seems related. Most times it seems related. IF you're smart and want to start a different discussion you can quote a post and start an entirely different thread with your response. Sometimes I may just be having a bad day. For the record I have two Valkyries wearing Cobra rears and one sporting a Falken. Those without experience, significant experience, on a particular tire rather than reviving a tired old argument on why it won't work should get behind one such as Joe May and try to keep up. The evidence will present itself. You guys do what you think is right. If that causes me to think you are self centered assholes I'll just keep that observation to myself. Joe, I'm extremely glad to see your tough self back in the saddle and getting better. I remember your riding to Texas recovering from a pneumothorax. You are the man. P.S. Keep in mind I exercised no administrative authority in this thread. I only expressed my opinion. I hope I'm allowed to do that. |
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Rams
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« Reply #43 on: May 01, 2018, 06:48:04 AM » |
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The difference between presume and assume is the presence or absence of evidence. I presume youy meant assume. Assume nothing. You know what assume does to us. I'm well aware that thread drift and conversation takes place. Sometimes it seems related. Most times it seems related. IF you're smart and want to start a different discussion you can quote a post and start an entirely different thread with your response. Sometimes I may just be having a bad day. For the record I have two Valkyries wearing Cobra rears and one sporting a Falken. Those without experience, significant experience, on a particular tire rather than reviving a tired old argument on why it won't work should get behind one such as Joe May and try to keep up. The evidence will present itself. You guys do what you think is right. If that causes me to think you are self centered assholes I'll just keep that observation to myself. Joe, I'm extremely glad to see your tough self back in the saddle and getting better. I remember your riding to Texas recovering from a pneumothorax. You are the man. P.S. Keep in mind I exercised no administrative authority in this thread. I only expressed my opinion. I hope I'm allowed to do that.  BTW, yesterday was National Honesty Day. Admittedly, it should be every day but it is, what it is. |
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« Reply #44 on: May 01, 2018, 06:54:45 AM » |
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"Those without experience, significant experience, on a particular tire rather than reviving a tired old argument on why it won't work should get behind one such as Joe May and try to keep up. The evidence will present itself.
You guys do what you think is right. If that causes me to think you are self centered assholes I'll just keep that observation to myself."
ouch...I think he is talking about me...
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« Reply #45 on: May 01, 2018, 06:59:01 AM » |
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Having said that, may I presume you will be addressing other threads in the same manner?
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The difference between presume and assume is the presence or absence of evidence. I presume youy meant assume. Assume nothing. You know what assume does to us. I'm well aware that thread drift and conversation takes place. Sometimes it seems related. Most times it seems related. IF you're smart and want to start a different discussion you can quote a post and start an entirely different thread with your response. Sometimes I may just be having a bad day. For the record I have two Valkyries wearing Cobra rears and one sporting a Falken. Those without experience, significant experience, on a particular tire rather than reviving a tired old argument on why it won't work should get behind one such as Joe May and try to keep up. The evidence will present itself. You guys do what you think is right. If that causes me to think you are self centered assholes I'll just keep that observation to myself. Joe, I'm extremely glad to see your tough self back in the saddle and getting better. I remember your riding to Texas recovering from a pneumothorax. You are the man. P.S. Keep in mind I exercised no administrative authority in this thread. I only expressed my opinion. I hope I'm allowed to do that. I'm just grateful that you didn't call anyone "self centered assholes". |
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Willow
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« Reply #46 on: May 01, 2018, 07:07:03 AM » |
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« Reply #47 on: May 01, 2018, 07:44:49 AM » |
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My wife gets pissed at me when I apply logic to a situation, but as I am an EE I use it often.
Oh well,, women are illogical. Hows that for hijack?
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« Reply #48 on: May 01, 2018, 07:50:48 AM » |
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ouch...I think he is talking about me... LOL! See? You're smarter than I thought you were. Actually you and I see a lot of subjects from the same direction but in one or two your logic tends to be flawed. This actually hurts a bit, I pride myself on living the "Spock" life, applying logic to most situations.... |
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« Reply #49 on: May 01, 2018, 07:58:46 AM » |
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ouch...I think he is talking about me... LOL! See? You're smarter than I thought you were. Actually you and I see a lot of subjects from the same direction but in one or two your logic tends to be flawed. This actually hurts a bit, I pride myself on living the "Spock" life, applying logic to most situations.... Don't let it hurt. When one recognizes logic and anothwr does not the issue could be on either end. |
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« Reply #50 on: May 01, 2018, 07:59:05 AM » |
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ouch...I think he is talking about me... LOL! See? You're smarter than I thought you were. Actually you and I see a lot of subjects from the same direction but in one or two your logic tends to be flawed. This actually hurts a bit, I pride myself on living the "Spock" life, applying logic to most situations.... Sir, Until you have achieved the "Official Pain In The Ass Award", you are just one of the many still striving....... Rams.  |
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« Reply #51 on: May 01, 2018, 11:45:49 AM » |
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it's not the contact patch, although the larger rear tire should have a larger contact, it's the "cam" actions that concerns me. Transitioning from the flat to the lean cannot be the same as a round profile tire. there must be some fall over feeling and the tire, because of leverage, is always fighting to get back flat. We jave all gone from a worn bike tire to a new bike tire before. Just doing that makes the old bike tire feel square. Ill.have to try out a bike witha car tire but I have a feeling that my sentiments will.match that of others one here that have tried and gone back.
As for legality, Ive heard they are hard to find a shop.to mount them, but lots of guys darkside up.here too.
I don't ever feel the flat spot when transitioning from a left corner to a right. I also run 34 psi. The edge of the tire squishes down so you really are not riding on the edge of the tire. I know for a fact my car tire has saved my bacon 3 times on loose gravel in corners. If it had been a bike tire I would have been down. Only at max lean does half to two thirds of the tread come off the ground, but then the forces of the flexed sidewall do not exert as much force to straighten the bike up as at a half lean. The tread (even on rounded edge car tires) does want to stand you up in turns, but the force on the handlebars to keep it in the turn smoothly is only a few lbs of pressure, and not fatiguing (and not a fight), just different from a rounded profile bike tire. And I will freely admit that my first experience was not a good one. I am not assuming anything....just going by the actual experience of dark siders... |
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« Reply #52 on: May 01, 2018, 02:33:41 PM » |
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« Reply #53 on: May 01, 2018, 03:23:04 PM » |
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I wonder Joe if maybe you think just a tad more about gear now, I read the chain saw thread and what sticks out is your statement of the next time you are cutting that you will make sure you have the proper protection. But trust me I am not offfering riding gear grief or a suggestion moreover a “I wonder” as said. When it comes to gear I am somewhat of a hypocrite I buy Schuberth full face, I wear sport boots and after that fingerless gloves t shirts and jeans. I know when Pappy is in the group he makes me think about it because I see him suit up. Now Lesa is another story. I don’t know if I will put more gear on but I do think about it. Glad you are on the mend. Ride on.
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« Reply #54 on: May 01, 2018, 03:45:48 PM » |
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Those without experience, significant experience, on a particular tire rather than reviving a tired old argument on why it won't work should get behind one such as Joe May and try to keep up. The evidence will present itself. BaWaaHaHaHaHa!!!
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« Reply #55 on: May 01, 2018, 06:00:11 PM » |
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I wonder Joe if maybe you think just a tad more about gear now, I read the chain saw thread and what sticks out is your statement of the next time you are cutting that you will make sure you have the proper protection. But trust me I am not offfering riding gear grief or a suggestion moreover a “I wonder” as said. When it comes to gear I am somewhat of a hypocrite I buy Schuberth full face, I wear sport boots and after that fingerless gloves t shirts and jeans. I know when Pappy is in the group he makes me think about it because I see him suit up. Now Lesa is another story. I don’t know if I will put more gear on but I do think about it. Glad you are on the mend. Ride on.
I've been lucky only been down once and it was dead of the winter. I'll be honest I see folks with all the gear all the time and I understand. But when its hotter than the hinges of hell here in the south I'd just as soon take my chances and not sweat like a pig when I'm doing something that I enjoy. |
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« Reply #56 on: May 01, 2018, 06:10:14 PM » |
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Yep. Florida weather with the extra sauna bonus
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« Reply #57 on: May 01, 2018, 06:19:22 PM » |
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Yep. Florida weather with the extra sauna bonus
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« Reply #58 on: May 02, 2018, 04:19:22 AM » |
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Reb, now I know why on the blue/cream 98 Valk I now own has the right side exhaust bottoms grinded on down pretty thin.....  I noticed that the other day like someone before me bottomed out the exhaust since dented in and grinded on down pretty thin... |
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« Reply #59 on: May 02, 2018, 05:16:40 AM » |
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I was with him the day he was draggin' the headers. We layed it over at the overlook to see how much lean it would take to hit the header pipe. With Reb happiness isn't around the corner it is the corner.  |
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« Reply #60 on: May 02, 2018, 05:57:51 AM » |
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I was with him the day he was draggin' the headers. We layed it over at the overlook to see how much lean it would take to hit the header pipe. With Reb happiness isn't around the corner it is the corner. " Red Rings" |
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« Reply #61 on: May 02, 2018, 08:44:47 AM » |
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Us flatlanders don't get the chance to do this scrape thing that you all do very often but that last time after a run on 129, I noticed a slight scuff grind area on the crash bar. I guess I need curb feelers.   We will be back soon  Its good to have friends  |
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« Reply #62 on: May 02, 2018, 11:22:35 AM » |
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Us flatlanders don't get the chance to do this scrape thing that you all do very often ... Even in the flatlands we have clover leafs at the flyway ramps. |
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« Reply #63 on: May 02, 2018, 11:53:03 AM » |
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Its good to have friends Is that big Bob ? How long ago was this takin? Havent seen him in a while . . . I’ll never forget when The waitress brought a huge salad bowl to the table for everyone and he grabed it and started eating . . . I guess he thought we all got our own? ? |
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« Reply #64 on: May 02, 2018, 12:38:33 PM » |
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Us flatlanders don't get the chance to do this scrape thing that you all do very often ... Even in the flatlands we have clover leafs at the flyway ramps. I stay away from the Florida slab, the things I see on a daily basis with the age and of the drivers we have. No way. |
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« Reply #65 on: May 02, 2018, 12:40:04 PM » |
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Its good to have friends Is that big Bob ? How long ago was this takin? Havent seen him in a while . . . I’ll never forget when The waitress brought a huge salad bowl to the table for everyone and he grabed it and started eating . . . I guess he thought we all got our own? ? . Nope. Big Mike. Good friend has a 1999 stretched HD |
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« Reply #66 on: May 02, 2018, 03:10:08 PM » |
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I was with him the day he was draggin' the headers. We layed it over at the overlook to see how much lean it would take to hit the header pipe. With Reb happiness isn't around the corner it is the corner. I remember that day. Fall color ride 5 years ago. Same day I found out we were having another kid  |
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