Cops get a lot of bad press

[The emperor has no clothes]

It’s nice too acknowledge there are MANY good ones.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dixon-high-school-shooting-gunman-fires-at-officer-at-high-school-suspect-wounded/

[Jess from VA]

High cudo's to the responding officer running to gunfire (as he is supposed to).

We await the backstory on the perp (age 19), his mental, police and school history (if any), and firearm of choice (and where and how he got it).

We note the non-life threatening injury to the perp, and realize hitting center mass of a fleeing (and shooting) perp cannot be guaranteed.   That's too bad.  But otherwise, a good job indeed.  

[sandy]

Jess: It would be a shame that a young person having a bad day or going through a problem might lose his life. After 3-5 in prison and counseling, he might become a good member of society.

[Jess from VA]

I think if you take a gun (or bomb, etc) into a school, church, hospital, etc with the intent to shoot (kill, maim) as many people as you can, you should never survive the event.... in a perfect world.  And I don't care how crazy, disturbed, insane or disadvantaged you are/were either.  (I am not calling for police executions following surrender.)

That is the best way to fix that guy.  We are not an endangered species.

I do however, cherish our civil liberties and rights, so if he is taken alive, then he gets the whole enchilada.  If at trial, the prosecution shows beyond a reasonable doubt he intended to shoot (kill, maim) as many as possible, he gets life without parole (or death if he killed), and no puny 3-5 years.  And I have little sympathy for minors either.  Equal treatment for murderers is good (though all states protect minors to some degree).

If he shows to a judge or jury's satisfaction that he only went down there to scare people (with blanks, or all the shots are in the ceiling), then perhaps a less harsh sentence can be worked out.

Every single case is different, and must be considered only on it's own evidence, but if the facts are as indicated in my 1st two paragraphs, he should hopefully never survive the event.

[Pete]

And now back to the question at hand.

Bad cops deserve bad press and prosecution.
Good cops deserve good press, our support and rewards.

What bothers me is lately there seems to be more bad attitude cops than there was, say 10 years ago.

Cops with an attitude should be banned and fired.
Cops who treat citizens with respect (when they deserve it) should be lauded.

[Moonshot_1]

And now back to the question at hand.

Bad cops deserve bad press and prosecution.
Good cops deserve good press, our support and rewards.

What bothers me is lately there seems to be more bad attitude cops than there was, say 10 years ago.

Cops with an attitude should be banned and fired.
Cops who treat citizens with respect (when they deserve it) should be lauded.

Yes, but...

We like to think of Police as great people who are there to protect and serve. So to us, this is the norm. And it really is. But the norm doesn't make the news so we only hear about (for the most part) the bad ones or the ones outside the norm.

[Jess from VA]

I've always given cops good respect.  The worst thing I've ever done is very politely disagreed with what he thinks I did or argued my side of things (quickly stopping if it is going nowhere).

I have not noticed any increase in bad attitude cops in my area (or anywhere), not that I get pulled over much.  

We had a couple with bad attitudes and tough reps growing up, and I did have a run in with one at 17, and he scared the heck out of me (and lived up to his rep).  And I was like yes sir, and no sir, and nothing else.  I also got bent over a car and frisked at 14 when my older cousin took me downtown racing hot rods on Woodward Avenue in Detroit one night, and that was incredibly exciting for me.

I suppose my experience is pretty limited, but most of my life, if you give good respect, you get it back.

[Earl43P]

Here's one semi-local to me, Police shot and killed a NAKED guy on an Interstate on-ramp. Read it.

http://www.richmond.com/news/local/crime/young-henrico-man-fatally-shot-by-richmond-police-was-high/article_bea3ab5b-a64b-5704-901a-57c5afea7e2b.html

Naked as a jaybird, so obviously unarmed, and the officer HAS to SHOOT him?
Granted, he's probably doped up, did a hit and run, fled, charged at the officer, but still. How wimpy are these cops that they have to shoot and kill a NAKED guy running around on the road? Take him down, smack him with the Monadnock baton a few times, pepper spray him, whatever...I get it: the Tazer didn't work, but REALLY??? They have to resort to DEADLY FORCE?

As long as the officer goes home safe I guess.  (That's the mantra.....repeat after me....) 

[..]

It’s nice too acknowledge there are MANY good ones.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dixon-high-school-shooting-gunman-fires-at-officer-at-high-school-suspect-wounded/

Simple fix.

It’s nice too acknowledge that MOST are good ones

[Jess from VA]

Here's one semi-local to me, Police shot and killed a NAKED guy on an Interstate on-ramp. Read it.

http://www.richmond.com/news/local/crime/young-henrico-man-fatally-shot-by-richmond-police-was-high/article_bea3ab5b-a64b-5704-901a-57c5afea7e2b.html

Naked as a jaybird, so obviously unarmed, and the officer HAS to SHOOT him?
Granted, he's probably doped up, did a hit and run, fled, charged at the officer, but still. How wimpy are these cops that they have to shoot and kill a NAKED guy running around on the road? Take him down, smack him with the Monadnock baton a few times, pepper spray him, whatever...I get it: the Tazer didn't work, but REALLY??? They have to resort to DEADLY FORCE?

As long as the officer goes home safe I guess.  (That's the mantra.....repeat after me....) 

I have to say, you have a valid point in this case Earl.  The deceased seems to have been a top 1% student and achiever with no record of any kind.  I always like to do a physical size comparison between perp and cop, but cannot here.  This incident seems way way out of character for the guy, and you have to wonder if it was intentional suicide by cop.  We assume it was a male cop, but maybe not.  Very strange case.

Sounds like he was smoking angel dust (animal tranquilizer) or something like that.  Autopsy will tell.

[Willow]

Here's one semi-local to me, Police shot and killed a NAKED guy on an Interstate on-ramp. Read it.

http://www.richmond.com/news/local/crime/young-henrico-man-fatally-shot-by-richmond-police-was-high/article_bea3ab5b-a64b-5704-901a-57c5afea7e2b.html

Naked as a jaybird, so obviously unarmed, and the officer HAS to SHOOT him?
Granted, he's probably doped up, did a hit and run, fled, charged at the officer, but still. How wimpy are these cops that they have to shoot and kill a NAKED guy running around on the road? Take him down, smack him with the Monadnock baton a few times, pepper spray him, whatever...I get it: the Tazer didn't work, but REALLY??? They have to resort to DEADLY FORCE?

As long as the officer goes home safe I guess.  (That's the mantra.....repeat after me....) 

I have to say, you have a valid point in this case Earl.  The deceased seems to have been a top 1% student and achiever with no record of any kind.  I always like to do a physical size comparison between perp and cop, but cannot here.  This incident seems way way out of character for the guy, and you have to wonder if it was intentional suicide by cop.  We assume it was a male cop, but maybe not.  Very strange case.

Sounds like he was smoking angel dust (animal tranquilizer) or something like that.  Autopsy will tell.

I have to disagree strongly with Earl, and by association, with the counselor.  When a taser has been ineffective on a man charging at me I would certainly choose to shoot rather than expect to subdue that man physically.  The assailant died og gunshot to the abdomen.  That's not where one shoots with intention to kill.

Whether the man was a science teacher or a pastor, at the time of the confrontation he was a crazed attacking individual that was not phased by strong electrical charge.  I'd be scared.       

[DirtyDan]

+1 willow I agree

Dan

[Jersey mike]

Here's one semi-local to me, Police shot and killed a NAKED guy on an Interstate on-ramp. Read it.

http://www.richmond.com/news/local/crime/young-henrico-man-fatally-shot-by-richmond-police-was-high/article_bea3ab5b-a64b-5704-901a-57c5afea7e2b.html

Naked as a jaybird, so obviously unarmed, and the officer HAS to SHOOT him?
Granted, he's probably doped up, did a hit and run, fled, charged at the officer, but still. How wimpy are these cops that they have to shoot and kill a NAKED guy running around on the road? Take him down, smack him with the Monadnock baton a few times, pepper spray him, whatever...I get it: the Tazer didn't work, but REALLY??? They have to resort to DEADLY FORCE?

As long as the officer goes home safe I guess.  (That's the mantra.....repeat after me....) 

I have to say, you have a valid point in this case Earl.  The deceased seems to have been a top 1% student and achiever with no record of any kind.  I always like to do a physical size comparison between perp and cop, but cannot here.  This incident seems way way out of character for the guy, and you have to wonder if it was intentional suicide by cop.  We assume it was a male cop, but maybe not.  Very strange case.

Sounds like he was smoking angel dust (animal tranquilizer) or something like that.  Autopsy will tell.

I have to disagree strongly with Earl, and by association, with the counselor.  When a taser has been ineffective on a man charging at me I would certainly choose to shoot rather than expect to subdue that man physically.  The assailant died og gunshot to the abdomen.  That's not where one shoots with intention to kill.

Whether the man was a science teacher or a pastor, at the time of the confrontation he was a crazed attacking individual that was not phased by strong electrical charge.  I'd be scared.       

Maybe the battery wasn’t charged.

[Willow]

Here's one semi-local to me, Police shot and killed a NAKED guy on an Interstate on-ramp. Read it.

http://www.richmond.com/news/local/crime/young-henrico-man-fatally-shot-by-richmond-police-was-high/article_bea3ab5b-a64b-5704-901a-57c5afea7e2b.html

Naked as a jaybird, so obviously unarmed, and the officer HAS to SHOOT him?
Granted, he's probably doped up, did a hit and run, fled, charged at the officer, but still. How wimpy are these cops that they have to shoot and kill a NAKED guy running around on the road? Take him down, smack him with the Monadnock baton a few times, pepper spray him, whatever...I get it: the Tazer didn't work, but REALLY??? They have to resort to DEADLY FORCE?

As long as the officer goes home safe I guess.  (That's the mantra.....repeat after me....) 

I have to say, you have a valid point in this case Earl.  The deceased seems to have been a top 1% student and achiever with no record of any kind.  I always like to do a physical size comparison between perp and cop, but cannot here.  This incident seems way way out of character for the guy, and you have to wonder if it was intentional suicide by cop.  We assume it was a male cop, but maybe not.  Very strange case.

Sounds like he was smoking angel dust (animal tranquilizer) or something like that.  Autopsy will tell.

I have to disagree strongly with Earl, and by association, with the counselor.  When a taser has been ineffective on a man charging at me I would certainly choose to shoot rather than expect to subdue that man physically.  The assailant died og gunshot to the abdomen.  That's not where one shoots with intention to kill.

Whether the man was a science teacher or a pastor, at the time of the confrontation he was a crazed attacking individual that was not phased by strong electrical charge.  I'd be scared.       

Maybe the battery wasn’t charged.

I guess that is a possibility but if it were me that wouldn't have been considered.  If I fired a taser at a naked man charging me and he didn't stop I would have escalated.  The policeman in the story shot the assailant in his belly.  I would have been concerned enough to aim at his chest. 

[The emperor has no clothes]

Even if he had no weapon ? Don’t get me wrong, I wouldn’t be none too thrilled about a naked man charging me. But seems like a cop would be versed in some kind of self defense.

[Willow]

Even if he had no weapon ? Don’t get me wrong, I wouldn’t be none too thrilled about a naked man charging me. But seems like a cop would be versed in some kind of self defense.

No response to being tased.  Already intentionally ran into other vehicles while driving.  Naked rolling around on the media.  Now he is attacking an officer with a gun.  The officer with the gun has to be concerned with whether the attacker can get close enough to put his hands on the weapon. 

Yeah, if you've demonstrated that you are physically and mentally insane and pumped I'm not betting on whether I can take you before you take my gun.  If I can manage it, you're dead.

[old2soon]

Different dope affects different people in different ways. Saw some crazy chit when standing Shore Patrol in the P I and Japan. Saw 4 big bruiser type permanent S Ps working HARD to put down 1 200 pounder in the P I. This was before tasers. Saw dat sumbitch git whacked in the gourd a couple times with weighted night sticks and he barely slowed down. Was a bitch gittin the straight jacket on the doofus. Wasn't there when the L E O popped that guy. We here after all are Only anudder court of public opinion. MAYBE when ALL the L E Os have the body cams we-the court of public opinion-might have a better idea of What Actually went down. And unless it's a proven malfunction of the body cam and IS Proven the L E O shut it off-NO/NONE/NADA/ZIP chance to splain-yer done as a L E O. Far too many he said they said i'm right yer wrong etc etc. RIDE SAFE.

[Bighead]

Even if he had no weapon ? Don’t get me wrong, I wouldn’t be none too thrilled about a naked man charging me. But seems like a cop would be versed in some kind of self defense.

Yeah you get hit with a tazer and see if you dont piss yourself or even crap your pants. And it has zero affect on a perp? Then you try to wrestle that doped up bastard to the ground .......you will lose .....the officer did what he had to .....right or wrong .....you if in the same situation would more than likely do the same.

[Earl43P]

Here's one semi-local to me, Police shot and killed a NAKED guy on an Interstate on-ramp. Read it.

http://www.richmond.com/news/local/crime/young-henrico-man-fatally-shot-by-richmond-police-was-high/article_bea3ab5b-a64b-5704-901a-57c5afea7e2b.html

Naked as a jaybird, so obviously unarmed, and the officer HAS to SHOOT him?
Granted, he's probably doped up, did a hit and run, fled, charged at the officer, but still. How wimpy are these cops that they have to shoot and kill a NAKED guy running around on the road? Take him down, smack him with the Monadnock baton a few times, pepper spray him, whatever...I get it: the Tazer didn't work, but REALLY??? They have to resort to DEADLY FORCE?

As long as the officer goes home safe I guess.  (That's the mantra.....repeat after me....) 

ABC Nightly News featured this story tonight, with a bodycam video. https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/footage-shows-fatal-shooting-naked-man-richmond-police-55444157
The focus of the piece was to explain WHY the officer resorted to Use of Deadly Force.

Having now SEEN that young man in the throes of his crazed, nude encounter with the lawman, I have to retract my earlier doubt and side with the lawman for shooting the guy. I strongly suspect that the autopsy result will show bath salts, meth or pcp coursing through his veins.

[Serk]

Found the video here, definitely explains why the cop did what he did.

http://www.nbc12.com/story/38277351/watch-police-to-release-body-cam-footage-of-i-95-shooting-death

It's funny, the anti-cop folks were demanding these cop-cams 'cause they thought it'd show all these bad cops everywhere, but the vast majority of the time they've been exonerating the cops who have 'em...

[Bighead]

Black cop black perp( so the racist thing isn't applicable).......100% correct action ......job well done....

[Hooter]

And now back to the question at hand.

Bad cops deserve bad press and prosecution.
Good cops deserve good press, our support and rewards.

What bothers me is lately there seems to be more bad attitude cops than there was, say 10 years ago.

Cops with an attitude should be banned and fired.
Cops who treat citizens with respect (when they deserve it) should be lauded.

Do the job for a year and tell me you feel the same way.

[Rams]

And the liberal media eats it up every opportunity but when those accusations are proven wrong, they don't make the news for more than a passing moment....

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/sherita-dixon-cole-rape-claim-texas-state-trooper-body-camera-video/

Rams

[..]

Found the video here, definitely explains why the cop did what he did.

http://www.nbc12.com/story/38277351/watch-police-to-release-body-cam-footage-of-i-95-shooting-death

It's funny, the anti-cop folks were demanding these cop-cams 'cause they thought it'd show all these bad cops everywhere, but the vast majority of the time they've been exonerating the cops who have 'em...

It's a funny old world.

Unintended consequences.

[Pete]

And now back to the question at hand.

Bad cops deserve bad press and prosecution.
Good cops deserve good press, our support and rewards.

What bothers me is lately there seems to be more bad attitude cops than there was, say 10 years ago.

Cops with an attitude should be banned and fired.
Cops who treat citizens with respect (when they deserve it) should be lauded.

Do the job for a year and tell me you feel the same way.

Not sure I understand your point.

[Gavin_Sons]

And now back to the question at hand.

Bad cops deserve bad press and prosecution.
Good cops deserve good press, our support and rewards.

What bothers me is lately there seems to be more bad attitude cops than there was, say 10 years ago.

Cops with an attitude should be banned and fired.
Cops who treat citizens with respect (when they deserve it) should be lauded.

Do the job for a year and tell me you feel the same way.

Not sure I understand your point.

I think he is saying you would have a bad attitude after a year of dealing with assholes that hate cops. I'm not a fan of police mainly because of their power trip attitudes but I understand where they get them. I would also be a jerk if I had to deal with losers every day.

[Pete]

And now back to the question at hand.

Bad cops deserve bad press and prosecution.
Good cops deserve good press, our support and rewards.

What bothers me is lately there seems to be more bad attitude cops than there was, say 10 years ago.

Cops with an attitude should be banned and fired.
Cops who treat citizens with respect (when they deserve it) should be lauded.

Do the job for a year and tell me you feel the same way.

Not sure I understand your point.

I think he is saying you would have a bad attitude after a year of dealing with assholes that hate cops. I'm not a fan of police mainly because of their power trip attitudes but I understand where they get them. I would also be a jerk if I had to deal with losers every day.

Thanks for the response, I understand what you are saying.

But, while I can understand it, it does not make it excuse-able or acceptable.

Anyone with "power trip ities" and/or a bad attitude - DOES NOT NEED to be a policeman.
Anyone with "power trip ities" and/or a bad attitude - needs to be un-employed.

[Rams]

Yeah, if you've demonstrated that you are physically and mentally insane and pumped I'm not betting on whether I can take you before you take my gun.  If I can manage it, you're dead.

Note to self:   No running around naked or rolling around in the grass at Inzane.......   

Rams

[specialdose]

Even if he had no weapon ? Don’t get me wrong, I wouldn’t be none too thrilled about a naked man charging me. But seems like a cop would be versed in some kind of self defense.

       



              He was versed in some kind of self defense. he used it. Doubt many cops are trained MMA fighters. Don't know how a trained fighter would fare against someone jacked up on what ever he was on.

[Jersey mike]

Bad press is usually brought on from their own doing. This happened yesterday in Wildwood,NJ.

Article and video;
http://www.nj.com/cape-may-county/index.ssf/2018/05/video_shows_officers_punching_woman_in_the_face_on.html#incart_2box_nj-homepage-featured

Was the girl belligerent...probably. Was she a wise ass...probably. Did she deserve this type of treatment from LEO’s...not one bit. I may be a bit old fashioned but a man should not be hitting a woman. The cause of this arrest does not warrant a beating to the head, especially with 3 grown men there for the incident.

[Bighead]

Well Jersey this is where we see things differently........the vid only shows from when she was punched ......nothing from the ten minutes previously.....so I for one cant say the LEO was right or wrong...but yet you judge it on the action you see not what lead up to said action.

[Jersey mike]

Well Jersey this is where we see things differently........the vid only shows from when she was punched ......nothing from the ten minutes previously.....so I for one cant say the LEO was right or wrong...but yet you judge it on the action you see not what lead up to said action.

Unfortunately this article does not give some detail which was in another article I read on a different website which for some reason no longer has the article posted.

The girl was on the beach with her 2 year old child and her boyfriend. She was accused of drinking/in possession of alcohol underage and was given a breath test which turned up negative. The article did not give the boyfriend's age, maybe he was 21, I don't know.

Once the breath test was given and the results showed she was not drinking, it seemed as though that was not enough for the LEO's as they continued to confront her and she responded verbally and didn't know enough to keep her mouth shut. Apparently the officer was going to let it go but for some reason they stuck around trying to figure out what to do. That's when she got mouthy, tripped walking backward and the cops pounced.

IMO she was not right for getting mouthy but as I said that's not an excuse for the cop to give her the beating. She wasn't on the beach with a weapon making threats, nor was she trying to kidnap a small child and run away. She didn't steal or cause any damage nor did she start any oth physical altercation with beach goers.

As I said, no reason why a grown man and an officer of the law needed to beat a 20year old girl especially with 2 other cops there as backup. She certainly wasn't hiding a weapon in her bathing suit.

[f6gal]

Well Jersey this is where we see things differently........the vid only shows from when she was punched ......nothing from the ten minutes previously.....so I for one cant say the LEO was right or wrong...but yet you judge it on the action you see not what lead up to said action.

Unfortunately this article does not give some detail which was in another article I read on a different website which for some reason no longer has the article posted.

The girl was on the beach with her 2 year old child and her boyfriend. She was accused of drinking/in possession of alcohol underage and was given a breast test which turned up negative. The article did not give the boyfriend's age, maybe he was 21, I don't know.

Once the breath test was given and the results showed she was not drinking, it seemed as though that was not enough for the LEO's as they continued to confront her and she responded verbally and didn't know enough to keep her mouth shut. Apparently the officer was going to let it go but for some reason they stuck around trying to figure out what to do. That's when she got mouthy, tripped walking backward and the cops pounced.

IMO she was not right for getting mouthy but as I said that's not an excuse for the cop to give her the beating. She wasn't on the beach with a weapon making threats, nor was she trying to kidnap a small child and run away. She didn't steal or cause any damage nor did she start any oth physical altercation with beach goers.

As I said, no reason why a grown man and an officer of the law needed to beat a 20year old girl especially with 2 other cops there as backup. She certainly wasn't hiding a weapon in her bathing suit.

I read that after she refused to give her name, she spat in his face, kicked him in the balls, then took off running.   

[Bighead]

Well Jersey this is where we see things differently........the vid only shows from when she was punched ......nothing from the ten minutes previously.....so I for one cant say the LEO was right or wrong...but yet you judge it on the action you see not what lead up to said action.

Unfortunately this article does not give some detail which was in another article I read on a different website which for some reason no longer has the article posted.

The girl was on the beach with her 2 year old child and her boyfriend. She was accused of drinking/in possession of alcohol underage and was given a breast test which turned up negative. The article did not give the boyfriend's age, maybe he was 21, I don't know.

Once the breath test was given and the results showed she was not drinking, it seemed as though that was not enough for the LEO's as they continued to confront her and she responded verbally and didn't know enough to keep her mouth shut. Apparently the officer was going to let it go but for some reason they stuck around trying to figure out what to do. That's when she got mouthy, tripped walking backward and the cops pounced.

IMO she was not right for getting mouthy but as I said that's not an excuse for the cop to give her the beating. She wasn't on the beach with a weapon making threats, nor was she trying to kidnap a small child and run away. She didn't steal or cause any damage nor did she start any oth physical altercation with beach goers.

As I said, no reason why a grown man and an officer of the law needed to beat a 20year old girl especially with 2 other cops there as backup. She certainly wasn't hiding a weapon in her bathing suit.

Well there are three sides to every story.....His version....Her version....and the truth.
And if the story F6 gal stated is the true side she assaulted the officer so a fist to the head is not out of line IMHO.

[Rams]

was given a breast test which turned up negative.

I'm curious, just how is this test administered?  

Rams

[Jersey mike]

below is a revised version of the original article I read yesterday. originally there was no mention of spitting or groin kicking.

https://patch.com/new-jersey/oceancity/video-shows-cop-punching-woman-head-nj-beach

waiting on body camera footage to be released.

however even if spitting and kicking is shown, I still stand by my opinion of thee was no reason why this girl needed a beat down and I've had the "pleasure" of running across some Philiadelphia girls. Some can be real mouthy and trashy and could use a smack in the mouth, but you just don't hit a woman, that's the mother or father's job.

[Jersey mike]

was given a breast test which turned up negative.

I'm curious, just how is this test administered?  

Rams

that requires additional training...many years ago I was actually a certified inspector and performed hundred of tests over the years. i try to keep the feel for the job just in case.

[Willow]

Well Jersey this is where we see things differently........the vid only shows from when she was punched ......nothing from the ten minutes previously.....so I for one cant say the LEO was right or wrong...but yet you judge it on the action you see not what lead up to said action.

Unfortunately this article does not give some detail which was in another article I read on a different website which for some reason no longer has the article posted.

The girl was on the beach with her 2 year old child and her boyfriend. She was accused of drinking/in possession of alcohol underage and was given a breast test which turned up negative. The article did not give the boyfriend's age, maybe he was 21, I don't know.

Once the breath test was given and the results showed she was not drinking, it seemed as though that was not enough for the LEO's as they continued to confront her and she responded verbally and didn't know enough to keep her mouth shut. Apparently the officer was going to let it go but for some reason they stuck around trying to figure out what to do. That's when she got mouthy, tripped walking backward and the cops pounced.

IMO she was not right for getting mouthy but as I said that's not an excuse for the cop to give her the beating. She wasn't on the beach with a weapon making threats, nor was she trying to kidnap a small child and run away. She didn't steal or cause any damage nor did she start any oth physical altercation with beach goers.

As I said, no reason why a grown man and an officer of the law needed to beat a 20year old girl especially with 2 other cops there as backup. She certainly wasn't hiding a weapon in her bathing suit.

I read that after she refused to give her name, she spat in his face, kicked him in the balls, then took off running.   

Nonetheless when she's on the ground and held a fist to the head serves no purpose other than venting the policeman's anger.  I do understand how the heat of the moment can get to a man, but one who takes the oath needs to be able to be above that.

The vast majority of police officers are honorable and given to sacrifice in the execution of their jobs.  They seldom make the "news".  Those few who are less than so cast a large shadow in the hungry media.

[The emperor has no clothes]

The vast majority of police officers are honorable and given to sacrifice in the execution of their jobs.  They seldom make the "news".  Those few who are less than so cast a large shadow in the hungry media.

Exactly the reason for the original post. 

[Robert]

While that story of the girl on the beach is still up in the air until the body cam reveal the truth, the body cam here saved the officer from being falsely accused of rape. The norm is to lie up and down to the officer and some have become really good at it. The stories are plausible and give pause to think about what is true.


No Additional Charges Against Woman Who Made Up Story About Trooper Sex Assault
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2018/05/25/no-additional-charges-woman-made-up-story-trooper-sex-assault/

Blue Lives Matter

Yes there will always be bad apples in the bunch with an organization like the Police that have the authority that they have.