Valkyrie Riders Cruiser Club
November 14, 2025, 11:41:18 PM *
Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Ultimate Seats Link VRCC Store
Homepage : Photostash : JustPics : Shoptalk : Old Tech Archive : Classifieds : Contact Staff
News: If you're new to this message board, read THIS!
 
Inzane 17
Pages: [1]   Go Down
Print
Author Topic: Ayn Rand 60 years ago. frightening  (Read 760 times)
Wizzard
Member
*****
Posts: 4043


Bald River Falls

Valparaiso IN


« on: June 12, 2018, 10:06:58 AM »

When you see that trading is done not by consent but by compulsion,
When you see that in order to produce, you have to obtain permission from
men who produce nothing.
When you see that money if flowing to those who deal not in goods.
but in favors.
When you see that men get richer by graft than by pull and by work, and your laws
don't protect you against them but protect them against you, When you see corruption
being rewarded and honesty becoming a self sacrifice, you may know your society is doomed.
Logged


VRCC # 24157
bentwrench
Member
*****
Posts: 760

Philadelphia,Pa.


« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2018, 02:01:41 PM »

We are living it.

Rand would be the first to say the only good commie is is a dead one.
Logged
RDAbull
Member
*****
Posts: 1464


SW Ohio


« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2018, 02:09:24 PM »

The single most influential book I ever read.  Rand was fifty years before her time but had an absolute read on the future.  Why are the American people too stupid to realize what is happening to them?
Logged

2015 GoldWing Trike
1999 Valkyrie Interstate Trike, gone but not forgotten
Roidfingers
Member
*****
Posts: 729


Tuscaloosa, Alabama


« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2018, 04:06:30 PM »

The single most influential book I ever read.  Rand was fifty years before her time but had an absolute read on the future.  Why are the American people too stupid to realize what is happening to them?

Which one? I'd like to see.
Logged
bentwrench
Member
*****
Posts: 760

Philadelphia,Pa.


« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2018, 04:18:15 PM »

Atlas Shrugged, A game plan for the left and failure on a massive scale for all of us.

Buy ammo,LOTS of ammo.

Logged
Serk
Member
*****
Posts: 21978


Rowlett, TX


« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2018, 06:07:50 PM »

Who is John Galt?
Logged

Never ask a geek 'Why?',just nod your head and slowly back away...



IBA# 22107 
VRCC# 7976
VRCCDS# 226

1998 Valkyrie Standard
2008 Gold Wing

Taxation is theft.

μολὼν λαβέ
Patrick
Member
*****
Posts: 15433


VRCC 4474

Largo Florida


« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2018, 03:17:52 AM »

Who is John Galt?






Now, thats been the question, hasn't it.   Smiley
Logged
Ramie
Member
*****
Posts: 1318


2001 I/S St. Michael MN


« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2018, 05:23:51 AM »

She knew about the Pareto principle or Pareto distribution.  80% of the work is done by 20% of the people.  This country wouldn't work if those 20% refused to cooperate which is what John Galt advocated.
Logged

“I am not a courageous person by nature. I have simply discovered that, at certain key moments in this life, you must find courage in yourself, in order to move forward and live. It is like a muscle and it must be exercised, first a little, and then more and more.  A deep breath and a leap.”
Alpha Dog
Member
*****
Posts: 1557


Arcanum, OH


« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2018, 08:04:35 AM »

Ayn Rand was must read for my college back in the 70s,  but I bet you will not find her work on 99 percent of the current college campuses.
Logged
Patrick
Member
*****
Posts: 15433


VRCC 4474

Largo Florida


« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2018, 03:59:58 PM »

Ayn Rand was must read for my college back in the 70s,  but I bet you will not find her work on 99 percent of the current college campuses.





I agree. Heck, its hard to find a school that even teaches civics today.
Logged
Robert
Member
*****
Posts: 17383


S Florida


« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2018, 03:29:48 AM »

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

While it is true that the behemoth the government has become may not have been envisioned by the Founders it never the less is responsible to the people in their eyes. We see that to change was not considered lightly but was a acceptable, honorable and a righteous cause that was morally mandated seeing corruption in high places. When you put that together with the right to bear arms, freedom of speech, ability to prosecute those in authority you see that they were serious in keeping the common man the head of government.

The power is ultimately in the peoples hands, but a thought, what freedoms would we need to come against a totally corrupt government, maybe the very ones we have and one more. Privacy is also a part of freedom since without it the forces of evil and corruption can spy,tap,monitor,and then arrest those who have good intentions to restore what was taken away.
 
Its always a balancing act, but freedom was never free. 
Logged

“Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don’t have time for all that.”
F6Dave
Member
*****
Posts: 2314



« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2018, 07:15:49 AM »

The single most influential book I ever read.  Rand was fifty years before her time but had an absolute read on the future.  Why are the American people too stupid to realize what is happening to them?

Two reasons that come to mind.  The change happened gradually, and the masses of 'fine Americans' are bribed with lots of free stuff.

Our education system has done its part, too.  I have twins and got to see this up close.  My daughter got her degree from to a 'liberal arts' type of college and was constantly indoctrinated.  My son got an engineering degree from a college that focused on education.  Today they're as different as night and day.
Logged
Pages: [1]   Go Up
Print
Jump to: