VRCC Forums vs. Facebook

[DarkSideR]

Boy oh boy what a topic, eh?

I've been here long enough to remember when the Valkyrie Forum was the only way to be a part of, and communicate with other VRCC brethren. And I must say I really enjoyed, and still enjoy this wonderful website.

However as all things go, new technologies come along and offer new ways to communicate. Social media (for better/worse) is now embedded in our culture and is here to stay. On Facebook you can find several Valkyrie related pages to browse and join. It's because I use Facebook to advertise the DayMaker Brackets I sell, I have joined most of them.

I have found Facebook to be too.. instant, too immediate, too accessible. Because of this the same questions get asked again, and again. The same responses get posted again, and again. And the same fights are started over, and over. Not to say this hasn't happened here, because it has. However the frequency of which it occurs on Facebook is a thousand fold. The result of this is that historical data is washed with loads of crap, making searching topics an extremely time consuming task. Facebook does have it's pluses too, though few.

Side story - On Facebook I posted a short video on how to search topics to find answers, and was chastised for it.

It is because of this on Facebook I advocate this forum. The knowledge base here in the Tech Forums is priceless and will hopefully serve generations to come.

And one last nugget. I have been looking for an OEM Windshield Frame & Hardware. I was active on Facebook for weeks with no good results. It wasn't until I recently posted here in the Classifieds what I was looking for before I got exactly what I wanted. The ol tried and true came through for me yet again.

Thank you VRCC community. Count this Forum as a blessing, and embrace these good ol days while you can. I fear they are numbered.

[Gavin_Sons]

I don't do facebook. I don't support domestic terrorist like Mark Zuckerberg

[Dave Ritsema]

I don't do facebook. I don't support domestic terrorist like Mark Zuckerberg

Zero interest here also.

[indybobm]

I personally do not like facebook. I do get on the Valkyrie facebook sites, sometimes to try to help, other times just to see what is going on.
I do believe that facebook has more 'so-called experts' than any other group. The same questions get asked. The same erroneous answers are given. There are knowlegable people on facebook, but for the most part, it seems to be a waste of time.
With Valkyrie Rider Cruisers Club, answers might not be as quick, but they are more likely to be based on knowledge and experience than what you get on facebook.
People are so anxious to help that they tend to repeat what they have heard rather than what they know or have learned.

[Willow]

Over time we have lost a lot of participation and in my opinion Facebook is a big contributor.  Eventually the VRCC forums will die out due to Facebook or the like.  It has some good characteristics but it holds a lot of bad under the covers.

[Avanti]

No Facebook....

[KUGO]

When people who helped design Facebook won't let their own children sign up for it or use it (Google it; true), why would I want to?

When two of the most intelligent (literally) people in the world (Dr. Christiaan (spelled correctly) Barnard, world's first successful heart transplant doctor, and his WIFE Marilyn Vos Savant, who is recognized by the Guinness Book of World Records to have the highest IQ ever recorded) BOTH will not sign up for it or use it in any way nor agree with its ultimate premise, well, I guess that's just enough for me.  You be the judge for you, though.  Why rely on the intelligence of others?  "Inquiring minds want to know...."  Nah, no they don't.  (Insert overly smug emoticon of your choice here.)   

[solo1]

Facebook is exactly like all of the gun forums. You must know how to separate the facts from all of the crap that people spout who know just enough to be dangerous.

Facebook is a means for me of keeping in touch with my relatives as long as I'm careful as to what I throw out there for everyone to see.  It's also  good for keeping up with activities in the community. It also is full of weird postings and weird ideas. Facebook is also by far the easiest way to post pics.

The VRCC forum is the best for technical, trips, and keeping in touch. 

[f6john]

I use Facebook for my own purposes but not the Valkyrie group much at all. I have found that on a local basis many of the trading groups have been helpful on finding items I was specifically looking for. For Valkyrie info, fellowship and buying and selling the VRCC is the place to be.

[Pete]

We do not do social media, especially FaceB---h.
Want to keep in touch use email, but not gmail, yahoo or AOL, etc. for personal info and pictures.

I will support VRCC as a user as long as they want to continue it.

[The emperor has no clothes]

We do not do social media, especially FaceB---h.
Want to keep in touch use email, but not gmail, yahoo or AOL, etc. for personal info and pictures.

I will support VRCC as a user as long as they want to continue it.

It was brought to my attention some time back that the forum boards here are considered “social media”

[Mr Whiskey]

I staunchly & steadfastly refuse to become a Facecrack addict!
Mostly, because for all my extrovert-ism when I'm with friends/family
(& those of you that know me, know me )
I simply don't want all those people in my business.
There's a reason I haven't talked to some of those people since high school & I'd kinda like it to stay that way. (Buncha $h!t stirin' drama queens, I'm too old to put up with the BS!)
 
Sugar has recently become addicted to facecrack as the only way to communicate with the kids/grandkids, & was able to sell her previous vehicle with-in 5 hours of posting
I'll admit, I'd like to hear from/see the kids/grandkids more, but if facecrack is an acceptable substitute for good ol' family gatherings (all ours are with-in 30 miles of us) ya know, real face time, then I guess I'm S.O.L.

[..]

When people who helped design Facebook won't let their own children sign up for it or use it (Google it; true), why would I want to?

When two of the most intelligent (literally) people in the world (Dr. Christiaan (spelled correctly) Barnard, world's first successful heart transplant doctor, and his WIFE Marilyn Vos Savant, who is recognized by the Guinness Book of World Records to have the highest IQ ever recorded) BOTH will not sign up for it or use it in any way nor agree with its ultimate premise, well, I guess that's just enough for me.  You be the judge for you, though.  Why rely on the intelligence of others?  "Inquiring minds want to know...."  Nah, no they don't.  (Insert overly smug emoticon of your choice here.)   

Dr Barnard died years ago, 2001. See, you can't even believe everything you read on this forum 

[_Sheffjs_]

I was thinking about the VRCC (I refer to as the black board) the other day and in my opinion I like it here. The thought I had was not to compare it to FB but to other types of motorcycles and their related forum. I feel they do not stack up at all to what we have here. I like to explore many types of motorcycles just to know what else is out there and there are many awesome bikes but not the forum to back it up like this one! I do Facebook but it is the “only vintage photos.........” that really has me.

Some times chapters slow down but they pick up back up and sometimes with new riders.    

[Hooter]

I don't use Fake Book either. My local VRCC forum moved to FB so I have no contact with them and don't know what's going on locally. I've read some if the crap FB spews. Lotsa computer muscles there and a bunch of dirty laundry put out there for all to read.

[Leathel]

I like facebook to keep up with friends out of town/country, am in a few bike groups but I don't follow them as they are either small and nothing to be shared or they get popular and the good info disappears down the page to fast & I have no time to look at all the info... And things get blown way out of proportion and to many bitch and moan

 One group I used to admin a forum with went to facebook (not my wish) got popular and then we had a busy page but on the actual rides we got maybe 2% attending, then it all hit the fan with an incident where one person felt intimidated by another and went on facebook and said she was assaulted (didn't mention it was verbal) and all hell broke loose... Facebook doesn't replace forum, people are setting up groups all over the place but as they get big it turns to custard.

Rant and Rave forums seam to die out as facebook is good for that but for tech help and IMHO organising ride forums still rock! (not that I can join the rides without international travel)

[Pete]

We do not do social media, especially FaceB---h.
Want to keep in touch use email, but not gmail, yahoo or AOL, etc. for personal info and pictures.

I will support VRCC as a user as long as they want to continue it.

It was brought to my attention some time back that the forum boards here are considered “social media”

Not by me or history.   Just because someone (zburg or anyone) says or wishes so does not make it so. Forums and info exchange boards existed long be faceb---h or social media was even a wet spot on someones trouser. As a matter of fact they were text only as support for images/etc did not exist at the time.

Just responding to your post with info to clarify, not commenting or directing anything your way.

[baldo]

When people who helped design Facebook won't let their own children sign up for it or use it (Google it; true), why would I want to?

When two of the most intelligent (literally) people in the world (Dr. Christiaan (spelled correctly) Barnard, world's first successful heart transplant doctor, and his WIFE Marilyn Vos Savant, who is recognized by the Guinness Book of World Records to have the highest IQ ever recorded) BOTH will not sign up for it or use it in any way nor agree with its ultimate premise, well, I guess that's just enough for me.  You be the judge for you, though.  Why rely on the intelligence of others?  "Inquiring minds want to know...."  Nah, no they don't.  (Insert overly smug emoticon of your choice here.)   

Dr Barnard died years ago, 2001. See, you can't even believe everything you read on this forum 

You beat me to it.

[Valkorado]

The knowledge base here in the Tech Forums is priceless and will hopefully serve generations to come.

+1. Long live the VRCC, and the tech board.  I told you you'd find that windshield hardware in the classifieds!   

[Mapper]

I was on Facebook years before I even owned a Valkyrie -- but knew about the VRCC forum before I knew VRCC was on Facebook.

My opinion is that this forum is better than what VRCC has on Facebook -- on this forum, the way the information is presented and categorized makes it easy... conversations, tech info, search function, etc.  The only advantage I see for Facebook is the ease of posting pictures.

You said you got chastised for doing whatever.... well, whatever.  Can't make everyone happy... some people are determined to be unhappy.  If you what you do and harm none without provocation, what can the legitimate gripe possibly be?

Bottom line: Facebook is pretty good, but in think this forum is MUCH BETTER.

[Rams]

I don't get out much, what is this face book thing you speak of?

Rams. 

[DarkSideR]

I don't get out much, what is this face book thing you speak of?

Rams. 

It's where people who call themselves "friends" post pictures of cats, and regularly get into arguments over things they feel passionate about at that moment but could care less about the very next day.

If that doesn't define you, your not missing much.

[gregk]

This is great except its to hard for me to post a picture here , an have to listen to all the political crap and bad mouthin.

[Gavin_Sons]

This is great except its to hard for me to post a picture here , an have to listen to all the political crap and bad mouthin.

Have you tried facebook? I hear it is 100 times worse over there. And plus, i don't have a Willow to keep me under control over there. 

[baldo]

Have you tried facebook? I hear it is 100 times worse over there. And plus, i don't have a Willow to keep me under control over there. 

lolol   

[solo1]

Facebook is like this forum in one way. If you don't like the post, don't read it.  Granted, there are lots of crap posts where people divulge things about their lives that they shouldn't

However, right now, many of us here in New Haven, are posting about doings in our small town which is very interesting. History, happenings,etc.

I'm also following the travels of a young lady named Hannah Kim who was born in South Korea and now is a citizen of the US. She is visiting all of the states and drumming up support and donations for the National Korean War Memorial new venture of listing the names of KIA and MIA on the Korean Wall. She was in Ft. Wayne two weeks ago and I met her, a very dedicated young lady.She calls all Korean War Veterans her grandpas, and we all are recognized at her  events and travels. Look it up.

 Facebook is the right venue to keep track of her dedication since it's not 'filtered' by the mass media and the pols.

My .02

[DarkSideR]

Have you tried facebook? I hear it is 100 times worse over there. And plus, i don't have a Willow to keep me under control over there. 

lolol   

Oh, there is a FB page who's moderator is a JOKE. He's supposedly a die hard Valkyrie guy who won't attended any Valkyrie gatherings, rides, or events. He lashes out at you when your views don't meet his. Makes me respect the Admins here all the more.

[Skinhead]

I don't use Fake Book either. My local VRCC forum moved to FB so I have no contact with them and don't know what's going on locally. I've read some if the crap FB spews. Lotsa computer muscles there and a bunch of dirty laundry put out there for all to read.

That's too bad.  The MI VRCC Facebook page is a Private group, I believe anyone can read it, but you have to be a menber to post on it.  I also believe posts made on it are marked private so they can't be shared.  Al Vest correct me if I'm wrong here.

[Skinhead]

an have to listen to all the political crap and bad mouthin.

I don't believe you HAVE to, You CHOOSE to.  If you don't like the politico, don't open it.

[DirtyDan]

an have to listen to all the political crap and bad mouthin.

I don't believe you HAVE to, You CHOOSE to.  If you don't like the politico, don't open it.

+1

Dan

[Wizzard]

If don't like something, I do not go there. I don't just waste time and energy bad mouthing it somewhere else.

[DarkSideR]

If don't like something, I do not go there. I don't just waste time and energy bad mouthing it somewhere else.

Individuals that read and reply to political posts, then say they hate the political posts, are the type of people that probably return to the restaurants they hate and complain about.

[Wizzard]

If don't like something, I do not go there. I don't just waste time and energy bad mouthing it somewhere else.

Individuals that read and reply to political posts, then say they hate the political posts, are the type of people that probably return to the restaurants they hate and complain about.

Yep,, some just like to complain, period.

[..]

This is great except its to hard for me to post a picture here , an have to listen to all the political crap and bad mouthin.

https://postimages.org/

Easy to use. Ask if you need some guidance.

[DarkSideR]

This is great except its to hard for me to post a picture here , an have to listen to all the political crap and bad mouthin.

https://postimages.org/

Easy to use. Ask if you need some guidance.

Nice. Use the "Hotlink for forums", and paste the link directly.

Thanks Britman, learn something new everyday.

[Rocketman]

When people who helped design Facebook won't let their own children sign up for it or use it (Google it; true), why would I want to?

When two of the most intelligent (literally) people in the world (Dr. Christiaan (spelled correctly) Barnard, world's first successful heart transplant doctor, and his WIFE Marilyn Vos Savant, who is recognized by the Guinness Book of World Records to have the highest IQ ever recorded) BOTH will not sign up for it or use it in any way nor agree with its ultimate premise, well, I guess that's just enough for me.  You be the judge for you, though.  Why rely on the intelligence of others?  "Inquiring minds want to know...."  Nah, no they don't.  (Insert overly smug emoticon of your choice here.)   

Dr Barnard died years ago, 2001. See, you can't even believe everything you read on this forum 

See?  He died without ever having signed up for Facebook.  How anti-Facebook can you get?

[KUGO]

When people who helped design Facebook won't let their own children sign up for it or use it (Google it; true), why would I want to?

When two of the most intelligent (literally) people in the world (Dr. Christiaan (spelled correctly) Barnard, world's first successful heart transplant doctor, and his WIFE Marilyn Vos Savant, who is recognized by the Guinness Book of World Records to have the highest IQ ever recorded) BOTH will not sign up for it or use it in any way nor agree with its ultimate premise, well, I guess that's just enough for me.  You be the judge for you, though.  Why rely on the intelligence of others?  "Inquiring minds want to know...."  Nah, no they don't.  (Insert overly smug emoticon of your choice here.)   

Dr Barnard died years ago, 2001. See, you can't even believe everything you read on this forum 

You beat me to it.

Sorry for not responding sooner.  More important things to do.

Mea culpa.  You are absolutely correct.  I sincerely apologize to you and any others who took such pleasure in pointing out my mistake.  (Even experiencing the thrill of competition and the agony of defeat of not being the first to call me out.)  Please know that I would not ever say/proclaim anything to anyone, especially people I was trying to be helpful to, as true when I knew that it wasn’t.  And I have no idea why I transposed Dr. Christiaan Barnard, heart surgeon, with Dr. Robert Jarvik, heart surgeon, in my head.  Except that Jarvik was also an artificial heart pioneer.  And he is (Was?
 I don't subscribe to People) married to literal genius Marilyn vos Savant, as I mentioned, (and the story of how they got together, a great story, is true and worth the look-up.  Or I wouldn't mention it.)  And no, they do not participate with Facebook (at least according to them, which is why I passed on their thoughts.  They are people whom I consider to be far more intelligent than any, including myself, than I have found on this (or any other forum).  They only went public with their opinions to educate and warn others of its potential dangers (FB).  Does it not serve grandparents who miss and don’t get to see their loved ones often enough?  Of course it does.  But that wasn’t my intended point.

Again, if I say something any of you disagree with for any reason, let me know.  I can take it.  I took the time to figure out where I went wrong with my original post and, thus, discovered the mix-up in my head of the two doctors and have responded to you and apologized.  I’m glad I now know the truth, and thank you for pointing it out, as I have repeated that story to a couple of others that I now have to get back to.

I’ll close with this note: I was a teacher/coach of several different and diverse things for many years.  When I would notice that a student (who may have been my senior every bit as often as being my junior) was publicly (especially in class) mistaken, I would never call it out in such a way as to embarrass him/her.  That would be counterproductive to both my relationship with that student as well as the entire classroom of individuals who each are making their own appraisals of how I handled the correction.  The idea is to find the actual truth and share with others that are interested.  Not to try to ridicule the one who simply made an honest mistake. 

I’ll strive to be more careful in the future.  -KUGO

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Jarvik

Marilyn vos Savant: just Google it yourself; I’m not trying to save anyone.  Was only trying to help people who might be inclined to trust an entity such as FB with blind oblivion and naivete. 

[Titan]

To each his own. Everybody has their likes and dislikes. People who don't use Facebook have their reasons and 2.9 Billion other people do use it.

I've been an avid user for years and enjoy staying in touch with friends, relatives and clients.

I stopped riding the Valkyrie several years ago and my passion now is my Challenger. I don't read or participate in any Challenger specific forums on FB and didn't use the Valkyrie forums there, either.

I still like to read posts here on the VRCC and I use Challengertalk.com for my car interests. There's a huge difference in the way FB works as opposed to web based sites. Facebook sucks for trying to keep up with posts in a given forum.

Facebook also sucks for anyone who thinks it sucks and doesn't want to go there.

It all depends on one's likes and dislikes.

[Hooter]

I don't use Fake Book either. My local VRCC forum moved to FB so I have no contact with them and don't know what's going on locally. I'vtweee read some if the crap FB spews. Lotsa computer muscles there and a bunch of dirty laundry put out there for all to read.

That's too bad.  The MI VRCC Facebook page is a Private group, I believe anyone can read it, but you have to be a menber to post on it.  I also believe posts made on it are marked private so they can't be shared.  Al Vest correct me if I'm wrong here.

I was a member....

[Oss]

FB lets me see what my kids are up to, relatives and aquaintances

Last week I reconnected with Don from western Tn who I had not seen since voai Eureka Springs   It is useful

It can also be addictive, the wife checks it when she wakes up lol

It lets me know who I dont want to speak with

This forum has the PM which is pretty nice and I can save the stuff I send and receive.  Through the PM I have come to respect some people that I would not have and also learned things that I had not considered.

Heck a couple of months ago I had dinner in Scottsdale with a cousin I had not seen in 48 years. We had a good time  We had just drifted apart all those years ago  I found him thru my mom's links and she is 86 years young

Times change, sometimes we do too.