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« Reply #40 on: August 02, 2018, 05:57:23 AM »

Do none of you see the rediculous portraying of Trump as George Washington or Superman ? Many of you talk of his opponents having Trump Derangement Syndrome. What syndrome are you suffering ?

I am planning on buying the "Crossing the Swamp" print.  Go ahead, say something snide about it, I don't care. 
Here's the funny thing:  I don't care much for Trump as a person.  Even before the primaries I had said, "He's an asshole, but maybe what this country needs, is an asshole."  Even the very day I voted in the primaries, I was still undecided.  But, I'm happy with my choice.  I just wish people would quit manufacturing reasons to hate him, and get behind all of the good he is doing.
I don't like him as a person, and his morals are iffy, at best.  But, I do feel he is the right man for the job to fix what the previous 8 years messed up (high unemployment, record numbers on welfare, a dying economy). 
The people who follow Obama are so blinded, so obsessively faithful (in my opinion), that they will attack anyone who supports getting rid of a "legacy" that nearly destroyed our economy, just so they can hold onto the "dream" just a little longer. 
I have nothing snide to say about your purchase. Do you feel he is equal to Washington or Superman ?

You do realize that Superman is a fictional character, right?  But what’s with the beard? I’ve never seen Superman or Trump with a beard!
Yes, I realize that  Smiley You do realize it was a member who equated him to a fictional superhero who had no flaws and was so completely moral he wouldn't even "raw-dog" Lois Lane ? Seems many of you are ready bow at his feet and kiss his boots.

I did not know that, I miss a few posts along the way. Seems some people need to dust off their knees and get the shoe polish off their lips, Obama is history.
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« Reply #41 on: August 02, 2018, 05:59:20 AM »

Do none of you see the rediculous portraying of Trump as George Washington or Superman ? Many of you talk of his opponents having Trump Derangement Syndrome. What syndrome are you suffering ?

I am planning on buying the "Crossing the Swamp" print.  Go ahead, say something snide about it, I don't care. 
Here's the funny thing:  I don't care much for Trump as a person.  Even before the primaries I had said, "He's an asshole, but maybe what this country needs, is an asshole."  Even the very day I voted in the primaries, I was still undecided.  But, I'm happy with my choice.  I just wish people would quit manufacturing reasons to hate him, and get behind all of the good he is doing.
I don't like him as a person, and his morals are iffy, at best.  But, I do feel he is the right man for the job to fix what the previous 8 years messed up (high unemployment, record numbers on welfare, a dying economy). 
The people who follow Obama are so blinded, so obsessively faithful (in my opinion), that they will attack anyone who supports getting rid of a "legacy" that nearly destroyed our economy, just so they can hold onto the "dream" just a little longer. 
I have nothing snide to say about your purchase. Do you feel he is equal to Washington or Superman ?

You do realize that Superman is a fictional character, right?  But what’s with the beard? I’ve never seen Superman or Trump with a beard!
Yes, I realize that  Smiley You do realize it was a member who equated him to a fictional superhero who had no flaws and was so completely moral he wouldn't even "raw-dog" Lois Lane ? Seems many of you are ready bow at his feet and kiss his boots.

I did not know that, I miss a few posts along the way. Seems some people need to dust off their knees and get the shoe polish off their lips, Obama is history.
yet you and many others keep bringing him and Clinton into the mix  Undecided
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« Reply #42 on: August 02, 2018, 06:08:16 AM »

I'll admit the artist is very talented, it's just his subject should be portrayed as a clown. I really like the last picture of Trump and Mueller, Trump is to much of a coward to try that sh*t. Five deferments because of bone spurs my ass. Couldn't serve his country, and can't now. I would rather have the painting of the dog's playing poker on felt before that stuff. Sorry I don't agree with you Trumpites, but I am entitled to my opinion as you are with your opinions.
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« Reply #43 on: August 02, 2018, 06:10:24 AM »

the way he has treated his wives, his housing discrimination towards blacks,

Read George Washington's instructions to his overseer in the introduction to
Scarborough's The Overseer, Plantation Management in the Old South
and perhaps read some (maybe even his wiki page) about Washington's infidelities.

"He did it too" doesn't make it right. I'm not on board with Trump Hero Worship, I'm on board with Trump
gumming up the works in the cesspool.

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« Reply #44 on: August 02, 2018, 06:11:47 AM »

the way he has treated his wives, his housing discrimination towards blacks,

Read George Washington's instructions to his overseer in the introduction to
Scarborough's The Overseer, Plantation Management in the Old South
and perhaps read some (maybe even his wiki page) about Washington's infidelities.

"He did it too" doesn't make it right. I'm not on board with Trump Hero Worship, I'm on board with Trump
gumming up the works in the cesspool.

-Mike
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« Reply #45 on: August 02, 2018, 06:19:18 AM »

Do none of you see the rediculous portraying of Trump as George Washington or Superman ? Many of you talk of his opponents having Trump Derangement Syndrome. What syndrome are you suffering ?

I am planning on buying the "Crossing the Swamp" print.  Go ahead, say something snide about it, I don't care. 
Here's the funny thing:  I don't care much for Trump as a person.  Even before the primaries I had said, "He's an asshole, but maybe what this country needs, is an asshole."  Even the very day I voted in the primaries, I was still undecided.  But, I'm happy with my choice.  I just wish people would quit manufacturing reasons to hate him, and get behind all of the good he is doing.
I don't like him as a person, and his morals are iffy, at best.  But, I do feel he is the right man for the job to fix what the previous 8 years messed up (high unemployment, record numbers on welfare, a dying economy). 
The people who follow Obama are so blinded, so obsessively faithful (in my opinion), that they will attack anyone who supports getting rid of a "legacy" that nearly destroyed our economy, just so they can hold onto the "dream" just a little longer. 
I have nothing snide to say about your purchase. Do you feel he is equal to Washington or Superman ?

That's a silly question.  I gave my reasons for admiring him.  He's no George Washington, his job is a little easier than building an entire country from scratch.
Superman is fictional.  I never said Trump was either person. 
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« Reply #46 on: August 02, 2018, 06:21:57 AM »

As someone has mentioned I hope I would have the stamina at his age that he has.

Who knew that raw-dogging porn stars was the fountain of youth? It's funny, so many try to hold that up as a negative against him, I gotta admire a guy who's banging porn stars at his age!

Many of you talk of his opponents having Trump Derangement Syndrome. What syndrome are you suffering ?

Make America Great Againitis
Love of country syndrome


I have little room to judge others morals. But my issue with his has nothing to do with "raw-dogging" pornstars (whatever that is) , it has more to do with the way he has treated his wives, his housing discrimination towards blacks, his disrespect towards veterans when he himself refused to serve, his unpatriotic deference towards Putin. To equate this President with any other presidents is shameful. For many to set this aside because they got tax cuts, a Supreme Court Justice of their liking that they desired is very short sighted.

Where to you get that Trump is disrespectful to Veterans?

Even Snopes says that isn't true:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/donald-trump-didnt-say-vets-with-ptsd-are-weak/

From everything that I have seen and read he is more supportive of veterans and our military than any president in decades.
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« Reply #47 on: August 02, 2018, 06:25:27 AM »

As someone has mentioned I hope I would have the stamina at his age that he has.

Who knew that raw-dogging porn stars was the fountain of youth? It's funny, so many try to hold that up as a negative against him, I gotta admire a guy who's banging porn stars at his age!

Many of you talk of his opponents having Trump Derangement Syndrome. What syndrome are you suffering ?

Make America Great Againitis
Love of country syndrome


I have little room to judge others morals. But my issue with his has nothing to do with "raw-dogging" pornstars (whatever that is) , it has more to do with the way he has treated his wives, his housing discrimination towards blacks, his disrespect towards veterans when he himself refused to serve, his unpatriotic deference towards Putin. To equate this President with any other presidents is shameful. For many to set this aside because they got tax cuts, a Supreme Court Justice of their liking that they desired is very short sighted.

I'm going to make an assumption that, like me, you don't know President Trump personally. That you get your perspective and information from the news media of which you have put your total faith in.
This is where your "the way he has treated his wives, his housing discrimination towards blacks, his disrespect towards veterans when he himself refused to serve, his unpatriotic deference towards Putin." comes from.

I get the same info from the same general place. I simply see the acute bias and outright hatred of this President by that same media. Take a step back and look hard at the sources of your information. When you do you see key words and phrases being used by them almost every week. "Unhinged, Manafort, incompetent, Nazi, Fascist, the list is near endless. They are coordinating the vile and hate against the President.

Really, step back and take a hard look at them. The media and the democrats come out with a new theme nearly every week.

You bought into it.  I don't.

It is not that I am going to give Trump a pass on things. But until the media gets off the "Let's destroy Trump" horse, nothing they produce. and they produce and manufacture it, will impress me.  
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« Reply #48 on: August 02, 2018, 06:38:58 AM »

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But what’s with the beard? I’ve never seen Superman or Trump with a beard!

OK, its art.  usually an artist adds (artistic license) to the image for a reason.  To me a beard denotes wisdom and age.  Could the artist be communicating that despite the hatred for him personally the wisdom of his actions are being recognized in this painting?
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« Reply #49 on: August 02, 2018, 06:49:09 AM »

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/current_events/politics/prez_track_aug02

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« Reply #50 on: August 02, 2018, 07:00:47 AM »

As someone has mentioned I hope I would have the stamina at his age that he has.

Who knew that raw-dogging porn stars was the fountain of youth? It's funny, so many try to hold that up as a negative against him, I gotta admire a guy who's banging porn stars at his age!

Many of you talk of his opponents having Trump Derangement Syndrome. What syndrome are you suffering ?

Make America Great Againitis
Love of country syndrome


I have little room to judge others morals. But my issue with his has nothing to do with "raw-dogging" pornstars (whatever that is) , it has more to do with the way he has treated his wives, his housing discrimination towards blacks, his disrespect towards veterans when he himself refused to serve, his unpatriotic deference towards Putin. To equate this President with any other presidents is shameful. For many to set this aside because they got tax cuts, a Supreme Court Justice of their liking that they desired is very short sighted.

 As my brother stated Trump's morals are suspect to say the least. I personally didn't vote for Trump for his morals I voted for him to bring this country back from the dismal failure of the previous 8 years. So far he has done or tried to do what he said he would. You're still pissed that your girl lost. Get over it.

 Do you have any proof of his discrimination or his disrespect to veterans? Do you have proof he refused to serve or was he not able to? Obama and Clinton didn't serve either. Hell Clinton ran to Canada rather then serve.  Your reference to Putin is laughable. Obama bowed to a Saudi. The American president bows to no one. Your boy Obama was a clown masquerading as a president.

 So using your same logic here. Should any good that president Clinton did during his time in office be negated because of his past affairs before he became president?  
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« Reply #51 on: August 02, 2018, 07:13:44 AM »

            ?? Did our current President do ANY of those woman since he came into office? I'm fairly certain that ANYBODY running for Any Office local or federal SOMETHING questionable Would be found in a Very Extensive back round check. ANYBODY. IF it was reported correctly the daniels thing goes back to what-06? His positives ON THE JOB I M H O so far are ahead of the negatives. My blood ran cold when President Trump threatened gubmint shutdown. And sounds like the tariffs gonna come back and bite him in da ass. ALL here know how well gubmint shutdown werx.  Lips Sealed President Trump may not have served But he appears at least to "git Veterans". That IS more than I can say about our most recent former potus. I Truly FEARED for our Very Country had that anointed one been elected. Again I M H O She was an insult to anything and everything decent honest correct and feminine and truth. Those here still yearning for the o-we KNOW we will NEVER change you and I for one am done trying. Those of us here Willing to give President Trump the chance to accomplish more-well y'all on the other side ain't gonna change us. Lot of us here saw ZACKLY WHERE our Republic was heading and we DID NOT Like it one iota. The supposed annointed one was NOT the answer. We PROVED THAT on election day. RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #52 on: August 02, 2018, 07:22:47 AM »

Whine, whine, whine.

The definition of insanity.

Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

Whine, whine, whine.
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« Reply #53 on: August 02, 2018, 07:31:12 AM »

Just a few thoughts

Corruption entrenched is VERY HARD to get rid of, special interests, many people, conspirators and a whole host of laws regs enacted by corrupt that it makes it nearly impossible to play a game in such a way to be able to use the tools of the swamp against them.

Hell if it had not been for the American people corruption would have succeeded in manipulating the elections for a corrupt politician. The list of names reads like the whose who of the government world, all corrupt, all in on the deal and yet Trump came in and blew up their plans. Not only on a US level but also on a world scale. The election of Trump is a world wide phenomenon that is changing many governments for the better and giving people the confidence to defy tyranny.

IF he does nothing else in his presidency than get rid of this corruption then he is a genius in my books if he brings back the middle class to life then he is a hero. NO fictional super hero has ever done all that and had the pile of snakes to deal with that Trump does. Do I personally idolize the guy no, he goes to the bathroom and puts his pants on the same as everyone else. But he personally sacrificed his comfortable position to help the US in time of need, for that he earned by gratitude for what ever its worth.

I have not seen any president from Kennedy forward put so much personally on the line and do what he has done. Most are takers and wanted to rape and pillage the US for their own goals. Obama had NOTHING before he was president and now owns a multi million dollar mansion with gates around it in Washington. The same could be said of most of the politicians in the government today, all while US citizens suffer.

What kind of man would be as wise as a serpent but innocent of corruption and knowledgeable enough to know the schemes and plans of his opposition? That man to have that kind of experience and drive would have to have some pretty awesome and thorough life experiences to draw on and a ton of money to keep himself and his family from being pulled down into the sea of nothingness. So could I look past a few things for someone who puts their own life on the line to help the US you bet.

Please name anyone besides Washington and our founding fathers and a few others that have done that. They have a picture of the US as a great country and believe enough in this country to remove the corruption that is like a python squeezing the life out of it. He cared, he cares and puts personal interest above his personal comfort. That goes a long way in my books and I dont see anyone else stepping up to the plate to do that.

That earns him respect, prayers, and applause and in the present day super hero status, just as men looked up to the founding fathers that is the same reason people look up to Trump. He gets it, he knows America, he knows workers and rich and poor and knows the ideals that the US was built on and has the abilities to set American back on a course for greatness instead of selling it out to other countries or a one world government.

He pissed on Iran and didn't ship a plane load of cash to them to beg them for a deal and they are scared.  He cut the legs out of the control in NK and now Kim can decide to accept peace. Why did Google CEO go to NK so many times. So many corp leaders are jumping ship since there is a new sheriff in town. Human trafficking and pedo's are running scared as they should be. This all survived and thrived on previous admins, WHY?

You who challenge Trump are just as responsible for the atrocities that have gone on unabated by previous admins. You gave a nod of approval to corruption and didn't want to look beyond the facade of a phony to see the truth, yet will blast Trump at every turn. I wish that the responsibility that these elected politicians did would trickle down to those who elected them. Just like Hillary claiming not knowing that the emails were top secret and not handling them correctly was her excuse, its not an excuse that gives you a get out of jail free card, just like not seeing the corruption or demanding the corruption in a candidate, all candidates be exposed.

You may not like Trumps politics but under investigation there were no charges, so nothing illegal was found, we cannot say as much to other government officials.
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« Reply #54 on: August 02, 2018, 07:50:06 AM »

As someone has mentioned I hope I would have the stamina at his age that he has.

Who knew that raw-dogging porn stars was the fountain of youth? It's funny, so many try to hold that up as a negative against him, I gotta admire a guy who's banging porn stars at his age!

Many of you talk of his opponents having Trump Derangement Syndrome. What syndrome are you suffering ?

Make America Great Againitis
Love of country syndrome


I have little room to judge others morals. But my issue with his has nothing to do with "raw-dogging" pornstars (whatever that is) , it has more to do with the way he has treated his wives, his housing discrimination towards blacks, his disrespect towards veterans when he himself refused to serve, his unpatriotic deference towards Putin. To equate this President with any other presidents is shameful. For many to set this aside because they got tax cuts, a Supreme Court Justice of their liking that they desired is very short sighted.

 As my brother stated Trump's morals are suspect to say the least. I personally didn't vote for Trump for his morals I voted for him to bring this country back from the dismal failure of the previous 8 years. So far he has done or tried to do what he said he would. You're still pissed that your girl lost. Get over it.

 Do you have any proof of his discrimination or his disrespect to veterans? Do you have proof he refused to serve or was he not able to? Obama and Clinton didn't serve either. Hell Clinton ran to Canada rather then serve.  Your reference to Putin is laughable. Obama bowed to a Saudi. The American president bows to no one. Your boy Obama was a clown masquerading as a president.

 So using your same logic here. Should any good that president Clinton did during his time in office be negated because of his past affairs before he became president?  
You have many "facts" incorrect.
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« Reply #55 on: August 02, 2018, 08:01:12 AM »

      Rob-the former potus had lotsa "facts" incorrect. RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #56 on: August 02, 2018, 08:04:58 AM »

      Rob-the former potus had lotsa "facts" incorrect. RIDE SAFE.
Dennis, the former president is just that. FORMER. Goes the same for Hillary Clinton, she has no power.
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« Reply #57 on: August 02, 2018, 08:20:08 AM »

Meathead, it seems like you're saying after a politician loses power, lies or distorted facts no longer matter.  That's wishful thinking but you might be right.  No one has been punished for their lies in the Obama administration , Hilary the same. That tells me they still have power.

Trump is a pugnacious person who takes no guff from anyone.  While he could be more diplomatic as the president, he is doing what he said he would.  Your inference that he doesn't like the military is pure BS! No, he probably wouldn't pass a moral test, so what!  Neither would you, neither would I and most certainly neither would the DC establishment along with their cronies, the press.

You complained about Trump and Putin, as my son pointed out, Trump didn't bow to a head of state.

I like what Trump is doing if I can get past the crap from the press and the Democratic Socialist party.

The most serious problem now, today, is that the press has lied so consistently that if Trump would do wrong, it's gonna be hard to figure that out because of the made up stuff like many are pushing.
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« Reply #58 on: August 02, 2018, 08:31:07 AM »

Meathead, it seems like you're saying after a politician loses power, lies or distorted facts no longer matter.  That's wishful thinking but you might be right.  No one has been punished for their lies in the Obama administration , Hilary the same. That tells me they still have power.

Trump is a pugnacious person who takes no guff from anyone.  While he could be more diplomatic as the president, he is doing what he said he would.  Your inference that he doesn't like the military is pure BS! No, he probably wouldn't pass a moral test, so what!  Neither would you, neither would I and most certainly neither would the DC establishment along with their cronies, the press.

You complained about Trump and Putin, as my son pointed out, Trump didn't bow to a head of state.

I like what Trump is doing if I can get past the crap from the press and the Democratic Socialist party.

The most serious problem now, today, is that the press has lied so consistently that if Trump would do wrong, it's gonna be hard to figure that out because of the made up stuff like many are pushing.
Wayne, that's not what I'm saying at all. What I'm saying is they are both out of office and have no power. Yet some continue to act like they are. I'm also not saying he doesn't like the military. I am saying he has disrespected veterans in the past while he refused to serve himself. There is no doubt my morals don't meet up with many. I will put mine up against Trump's any day though. It seems pretty obvious that is the playbook. Vilify the media, vilify Mueller, vilify Rosentien in the hopes when the Special Counsels report comes out it throws doubt on it.
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« Reply #59 on: August 02, 2018, 08:49:59 AM »

Vilify the media, vilify Mueller, vilify Rosentien in the hopes when the Special Counsels report comes out it throws doubt on it.

Many of us saw this whole thing for what it is (Which is a witch hunt launched by a corrupt and vindictive Obama administration, and being kept alive by a corrupt media and other corrupt parts of the Washington DC bureaucracy (AKA "The Swamp") with the sole purpose of finding something, ANYTHING to pin on President Trump to try to stop him from removing said swamp and corruption) without any help from Trump's vilification of the villains listed above.

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« Reply #60 on: August 02, 2018, 08:52:51 AM »

Vilify the media, vilify Mueller, vilify Rosentien in the hopes when the Special Counsels report comes out it throws doubt on it.

Many of us saw this whole thing for what it is (Which is a witch hunt launched by a corrupt and vindictive Obama administration, and being kept alive by a corrupt media and other corrupt parts of the Washington DC bureaucracy (AKA "The Swamp") with the sole purpose of finding something, ANYTHING to pin on President Trump to try to stop him from removing said swamp and corruption) without any help from Trump's vilification of the villains listed above.


So, you don't care what the Mueller report has to say ?
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« Reply #61 on: August 02, 2018, 08:53:22 AM »

Those who voted for Kennedy (any of them), Johnson, Clinton (any of them) and/or Obama have abdicated the right to criti-size (sp) anyone who has ever voted for others.

To say that your reasoning (in voting for those) is flawed is a massive understatement.

Your credibility (voting) has escaped and cannot be recovered or redeemed.

Anyone who voted for the named group above should be man or woman enough to STOP voting and SHUT UP, so they could stop embarrassing themselves and this great country.

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« Reply #62 on: August 02, 2018, 08:53:38 AM »

Meathead, it seems like you're saying after a politician loses power, lies or distorted facts no longer matter.  That's wishful thinking but you might be right.  No one has been punished for their lies in the Obama administration , Hilary the same. That tells me they still have power.

Trump is a pugnacious person who takes no guff from anyone.  While he could be more diplomatic as the president, he is doing what he said he would.  Your inference that he doesn't like the military is pure BS! No, he probably wouldn't pass a moral test, so what!  Neither would you, neither would I and most certainly neither would the DC establishment along with their cronies, the press.

You complained about Trump and Putin, as my son pointed out, Trump didn't bow to a head of state.

I like what Trump is doing if I can get past the crap from the press and the Democratic Socialist party.

The most serious problem now, today, is that the press has lied so consistently that if Trump would do wrong, it's gonna be hard to figure that out because of the made up stuff like many are pushing.
Wayne, that's not what I'm saying at all. What I'm saying is they are both out of office and have no power. Yet some continue to act like they are. I'm also not saying he doesn't like the military. I am saying he has disrespected veterans in the past while he refused to serve himself. There is no doubt my morals don't meet up with many. I will put mine up against Trump's any day though. It seems pretty obvious that is the playbook. Vilify the media, vilify Mueller, vilify Rosentien in the hopes when the Special Counsels report comes out it throws doubt on it.

Yeah sure, they have no power. Yeah let's keep telling ourselves that and maybe it will become true.  uglystupid2
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« Reply #63 on: August 02, 2018, 08:55:52 AM »

So, you don't care what the Mueller report has to say ?

No.
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« Reply #64 on: August 02, 2018, 08:57:13 AM »

So, you don't care what the Mueller report has to say ?

No.


They have proven to be just as crooked as Hillary. How can anyone trust anything he says he found?
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« Reply #65 on: August 02, 2018, 09:04:07 AM »

As someone has mentioned I hope I would have the stamina at his age that he has.

Who knew that raw-dogging porn stars was the fountain of youth? It's funny, so many try to hold that up as a negative against him, I gotta admire a guy who's banging porn stars at his age!

Many of you talk of his opponents having Trump Derangement Syndrome. What syndrome are you suffering ?

Make America Great Againitis
Love of country syndrome


I have little room to judge others morals. But my issue with his has nothing to do with "raw-dogging" pornstars (whatever that is) , it has more to do with the way he has treated his wives, his housing discrimination towards blacks, his disrespect towards veterans when he himself refused to serve, his unpatriotic deference towards Putin. To equate this President with any other presidents is shameful. For many to set this aside because they got tax cuts, a Supreme Court Justice of their liking that they desired is very short sighted.

 As my brother stated Trump's morals are suspect to say the least. I personally didn't vote for Trump for his morals I voted for him to bring this country back from the dismal failure of the previous 8 years. So far he has done or tried to do what he said he would. You're still pissed that your girl lost. Get over it.

 Do you have any proof of his discrimination or his disrespect to veterans? Do you have proof he refused to serve or was he not able to? Obama and Clinton didn't serve either. Hell Clinton ran to Canada rather then serve.  Your reference to Putin is laughable. Obama bowed to a Saudi. The American president bows to no one. Your boy Obama was a clown masquerading as a president.

 So using your same logic here. Should any good that president Clinton did during his time in office be negated because of his past affairs before he became president?  
You have many "facts" incorrect.

 Like what??

 You say since they are "former"  they are not in power. Bull. Most ex presidents leave the white house and go home to live their lives. Not the case for Obama and the Clintons. They are going around the world trashing the current administration. If Bush had done this same thing during Obamas time you would have been livid. But it's OK for Obama to do it to Trump because you HATE the guy.

 You also say that since they are "forner" that their past is irrelevant. But yet you are holding Trump accountable for his past that has NOTHING to do with him being president. How hypocritical of you....
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« Reply #66 on: August 02, 2018, 09:08:58 AM »

Mad, I never said their past doesn't matter. I did say they are out of office and out of power. I will let you figure out your inaccurate statements.
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« Reply #67 on: August 02, 2018, 09:19:11 AM »

Mad, I never said their past doesn't matter. I did say they are out of office and out of power. I will let you figure out your inaccurate statements.

 You can't tell where I'm wrong can you? --- Fact! Neither Clinton or Obama served.---- Fact! Clinton fled to Canada rather then serve.----- Fact! Obama DID bow to a Saudi king. There is video proof of it.

SO tell me again where I'm wrong?
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« Reply #68 on: August 02, 2018, 09:20:30 AM »

Vilify the media, vilify Mueller, vilify Rosentien in the hopes when the Special Counsels report comes out it throws doubt on it.

Many of us saw this whole thing for what it is (Which is a witch hunt launched by a corrupt and vindictive Obama administration, and being kept alive by a corrupt media and other corrupt parts of the Washington DC bureaucracy (AKA "The Swamp") with the sole purpose of finding something, ANYTHING to pin on President Trump to try to stop him from removing said swamp and corruption) without any help from Trump's vilification of the villains listed above.

Yes Sir, you nailed it.  

Why any sane and rational person would even turn on (or read) most all main stream media anymore is beyond me.  Journalism is at an all time low (and that is saying something).  Attacking journalism has nothing to do with respect for the 1st Amendment (which they hide behind, just like criminals hide behind the 4th, 5th and 6th).  

And the harder they go at him, the better he is doing, and the more I like him.  

Americans have always liked an underdog.  Even if he has some quirks, fleas and occasionally bites the wrong person.

Shakespeare described the Media (and it's rabid followers) perfectly.....it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

  
They are nothing short of the enemy of the people. 


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« Reply #69 on: August 02, 2018, 09:34:01 AM »

Mad, I never said their past doesn't matter. I did say they are out of office and out of power. I will let you figure out your inaccurate statements.

Work on figuring out yours, MH.  Your hatred burns so deeply that you're ready to swallow anything from anywhere that claims any misconduct or flaw of character in the President.   

He is the duly elected President of the United States.  You served, Navy but served.  You know that a certain level of respect is due not just be cause of the individual and office, but, more importantly, as commitment to the process.  It wasn't right when it was done otherwise for the past eight years and it's not right now.

For political differences support the candidate of your choice when an election is coming up.  It's not right to work at dragging down the duly elected President to justify your vote for the losing candidate.
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« Reply #70 on: August 02, 2018, 09:35:03 AM »

Vilify the media, vilify Mueller, vilify Rosentien in the hopes when the Special Counsels report comes out it throws doubt on it.

Many of us saw this whole thing for what it is (Which is a witch hunt launched by a corrupt and vindictive Obama administration, and being kept alive by a corrupt media and other corrupt parts of the Washington DC bureaucracy (AKA "The Swamp") with the sole purpose of finding something, ANYTHING to pin on President Trump to try to stop him from removing said swamp and corruption) without any help from Trump's vilification of the villains listed above.



If one wants to know what really happened and has not been paying attention to the real crime, not collusion which is not a crime, but conspiracy instead, then purchase this book and it will get one up to speed.  It includes 700 footnotes, all sourced and not anonymous.   Last week it was number one, not sure about today.

https://www.amazon.com/Russia-Hoax-Illicit-Hillary-Clinton/dp/0062872745

By the way Serk,  I love the painting ( It really captures what is going on ) and ordered a Lithograph that is framed.  Really wanted the larger canvas, but they are sold out, by popular demand I would assume.
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« Reply #71 on: August 02, 2018, 09:39:02 AM »

Mad, I never said their past doesn't matter. I did say they are out of office and out of power. I will let you figure out your inaccurate statements.

Work on figuring out yours, MH.  Your hatred burns so deeply that you're ready to swallow anything from anywhere that claims any misconduct or flaw of character in the President.    

He is the duly elected President of the United States.  You served, Navy but served.  You know that a certain level of respect is due not just be cause of the individual and office, but, more importantly, as commitment to the process.  It wasn't right when it was done otherwise for the past eight years and it's not right now.

For political differences support the candidate of your choice when an election is coming up.  It's not right to work at dragging down the duly elected President to justify your vote for the losing candidate.
My dear jarhead friend you are deeply mistaken.  coolsmiley I have no ability to drag him down even if I so desired. He has done that to himself.
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« Reply #72 on: August 02, 2018, 09:50:49 AM »

Do none of you see the rediculous portraying of Trump as George Washington or Superman ? Many of you talk of his opponents having Trump Derangement Syndrome. What syndrome are you suffering ?

I am planning on buying the "Crossing the Swamp" print.  Go ahead, say something snide about it, I don't care. 
Here's the funny thing:  I don't care much for Trump as a person.  Even before the primaries I had said, "He's an asshole, but maybe what this country needs, is an asshole."  Even the very day I voted in the primaries, I was still undecided.  But, I'm happy with my choice.  I just wish people would quit manufacturing reasons to hate him, and get behind all of the good he is doing.
I don't like him as a person, and his morals are iffy, at best.  But, I do feel he is the right man for the job to fix what the previous 8 years messed up (high unemployment, record numbers on welfare, a dying economy). 
The people who follow Obama are so blinded, so obsessively faithful (in my opinion), that they will attack anyone who supports getting rid of a "legacy" that nearly destroyed our economy, just so they can hold onto the "dream" just a little longer. 
I have nothing snide to say about your purchase. Do you feel he is equal to Washington or Superman ?

You do realize that Superman is a fictional character, right?  But what’s with the beard? I’ve never seen Superman or Trump with a beard!
Yes, I realize that  Smiley You do realize it was a member who equated him to a fictional superhero who had no flaws and was so completely moral he wouldn't even "raw-dog" Lois Lane ? Seems many of you are ready bow at his feet and kiss his boots.

I did not know that, I miss a few posts along the way. Seems some people need to dust off their knees and get the shoe polish off their lips, Obama is history.
yet you and many others keep bringing him and Clinton into the mix  Undecided

Yes but sans shoe polish and toe jam.   cooldude
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« Reply #73 on: August 02, 2018, 10:00:09 AM »

Mad, I never said their past doesn't matter. I did say they are out of office and out of power. I will let you figure out your inaccurate statements.

Work on figuring out yours, MH.  Your hatred burns so deeply that you're ready to swallow anything from anywhere that claims any misconduct or flaw of character in the President.    

He is the duly elected President of the United States.  You served, Navy but served.  You know that a certain level of respect is due not just be cause of the individual and office, but, more importantly, as commitment to the process.  It wasn't right when it was done otherwise for the past eight years and it's not right now.

For political differences support the candidate of your choice when an election is coming up.  It's not right to work at dragging down the duly elected President to justify your vote for the losing candidate.
My dear jarhead friend you are deeply mistaken.  coolsmiley I have no ability to drag him down even if I so desired. He has done that to himself.

Again, just an uninformed opinion.
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« Reply #74 on: August 02, 2018, 10:04:49 AM »

Vilify the media, vilify Mueller, vilify Rosentien in the hopes when the Special Counsels report comes out it throws doubt on it.

Many of us saw this whole thing for what it is (Which is a witch hunt launched by a corrupt and vindictive Obama administration, and being kept alive by a corrupt media and other corrupt parts of the Washington DC bureaucracy (AKA "The Swamp") with the sole purpose of finding something, ANYTHING to pin on President Trump to try to stop him from removing said swamp and corruption) without any help from Trump's vilification of the villains listed above.


So, you don't care what the Mueller report has to say ?

Nope,don't care at all
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« Reply #75 on: August 02, 2018, 10:07:38 AM »

Vilify the media, vilify Mueller, vilify Rosentien in the hopes when the Special Counsels report comes out it throws doubt on it.

Many of us saw this whole thing for what it is (Which is a witch hunt launched by a corrupt and vindictive Obama administration, and being kept alive by a corrupt media and other corrupt parts of the Washington DC bureaucracy (AKA "The Swamp") with the sole purpose of finding something, ANYTHING to pin on President Trump to try to stop him from removing said swamp and corruption) without any help from Trump's vilification of the villains listed above.


So, you don't care what the Mueller report has to say ?

Nope,don't care at all
I'm surprised  Shocked
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« Reply #76 on: August 02, 2018, 10:12:09 AM »

Mad, I never said their past doesn't matter. I did say they are out of office and out of power. I will let you figure out your inaccurate statements.

Work on figuring out yours, MH.  Your hatred burns so deeply that you're ready to swallow anything from anywhere that claims any misconduct or flaw of character in the President.    

He is the duly elected President of the United States.  You served, Navy but served.  You know that a certain level of respect is due not just be cause of the individual and office, but, more importantly, as commitment to the process.  It wasn't right when it was done otherwise for the past eight years and it's not right now.

For political differences support the candidate of your choice when an election is coming up.  It's not right to work at dragging down the duly elected President to justify your vote for the losing candidate.
My dear jarhead friend you are deeply mistaken.  coolsmiley I have no ability to drag him down even if I so desired. He has done that to himself.

 And how has he done that?  In case you haven't noticed the economy is doing well. Lowest black and Hispanic unemployment. The lowest in history. Less people on food stamps. 4.1 groath rate. Coal is back on track. Closed steel mills reopening. People are going back to work. Trump is doing what he promised. But you can't see that because your hatred for him is blocking you from seeing anything positive he is doing.
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« Reply #77 on: August 02, 2018, 10:12:36 AM »

They may be out of office but they are not out of power nor influence. If the corruption is not prosecuted then anyone who gets in will continue in the same path. Why should they get off if others are prosecuted for the same offenses, I guess maybe some want a different law for the elites.

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« Reply #78 on: August 02, 2018, 10:21:56 AM »

Vilify the media, vilify Mueller, vilify Rosentien in the hopes when the Special Counsels report comes out it throws doubt on it.

Many of us saw this whole thing for what it is (Which is a witch hunt launched by a corrupt and vindictive Obama administration, and being kept alive by a corrupt media and other corrupt parts of the Washington DC bureaucracy (AKA "The Swamp") with the sole purpose of finding something, ANYTHING to pin on President Trump to try to stop him from removing said swamp and corruption) without any help from Trump's vilification of the villains listed above.


So, you don't care what the Mueller report has to say ?

Nope,don't care at all
I'm surprised  Shocked

Prolly won't be the last time I surprise you Wink
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« Reply #79 on: August 02, 2018, 10:29:50 AM »

I’d be curious to know what Mueller has to say for the millions of dollars invested in his investigation. I just hope it comes out during my lifetime.
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