Do you use Roundup?

[..]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-6049007/Roundup-cancerous-jury-declares.html

[Serk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hsAnxyOH88

[Serk]

(Even worse language than the above link I posted)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHIT2or-F9o

[hubcapsc]

Yes.

-Mike

[Kidd]

I use 300  gallons plus  a year of the super concentrate , that's before you mix it with water

[Jersey mike]

I’ve been using it for decades, great product. I use 72-80 ounces a year mixed in a 2 gallon sprayer.

Does it cause cancer it might.

[Jess from VA]

I'm also skeptical about most reports of carcinogens and cancer causing this and that.

Especially when the news comes from the EPA, or after million dollar litigation against million dollar (deep pocket) companies.  And especially when the evidence comes down to.....well, we cannot find any direct medical causation at all, but in studies we did find cancer occurs in users at a .05% higher rate than in non-users.

I suppose we can now look forward to years of TV commercials telling us there's a billion dollar trust fund for Roundup users, and all you have to do is call the number on the bottom of the screen to try and get a share of it.

But I discovered long ago that Spectracide killed weeds much better and faster than Roundup ever did.

[Beardo]

I stopped listening to those reports when they said smoked meat causes cancer.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I've used and will continue to use it. But, common sense should tell us not to get it on you or breathe it in. Just as many people refused to believe smoking cigarettes caused cancer. The problem I have with these companies is they will lie to protect their assets. I think a simple explanation that they should tell people how to use it properly would go a long way. I'm sure we all have many chemicals in our homes and garages that can cause cancer if precautions aren't used.

[Oss]

Wife makes medicine (tinctures/teas/Lotions) out of many "weeds"
and as an herbal first aid kit. She teaches this stuff year round
Some of the stuff in the yard ..
Yarrow and Plantain control bleeding and anticeptic, Mullein for lungs to break a cough or congestion, Skullcap stops busy mind when you cant sleep the night before a good ride, Dandelion for digestion, Red Clover makes an awesome tea, Comfrey heals deep bruises so many more

If my recollector is working right I think Lady Draco is also familiar with many or all of the above.  Don is a lucky dude.

We don't spray or use roundup or anything as organic here, if you do it doesnt bother me, then again we dont smoke either (but did when younger)  Vinegar kills weeds cheap even poison ivy

[Pete]

No, never have.

[Serk]

Love the efficacy and effective ness of Rounf up... So I sent  the lest attractive of my kids out to use it when we need to use it .

[Bighead]

Well consider where he lives and the mind
set of the jury in that state.....used a bit over a gallon last week.

[old2soon]

         I used 2-4-D when I was younger and Dad mixed it up and put it in an application cane. I remember Dad telling me-don't git it on ya. THAT was the extent of the "safety lecture". Used some pre-mixed Round Up at my Brothers place in Illinois but even IF-doubtful-R U caused me any medical problems probably be difficult to sort that out from my other medical stuff. According to what I read and heard on the news the guy may not be around to collect. Course doctors been wrong before.  RIDE SAFE.

[Shasta]

No.  I weed by hand.

[Jess from VA]

Some take their weeds and roll them into little tiny tubes and burn them one at a time.

[baldo]

I never touch the stuff. It's composed of some of the worst chemicals available to the public. The company that manufactures it, Monsanto, is thought to be responsible for massive bee kills wherever it's used commercially. A jury just awarded $290M to a man that claims to have contracted cancer due to his contact with Roundup.... https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/10/health/monsanto-johnson-trial-verdict/index.html

Monsanto is one of the main players in the GMO controversy.

Personally, I feel Monsanto is one of the most evil corporations in the world. Do some reading to see what they've done with their GMO seeds, particularly in under-developed countries.

[Patrick]

I hate glyphosate. Its used all around me though. I prefer using a mixture of vinegar as it works better, faster and lasts longer than that glyphosate crap. I happen to believe its a dangerous chemical, but, then, some day 'they'll' probably say the same about vinegar, beer, BBQ or anything else we come in contact with. Oh, wait, I think 'they' already say that.

[MAD6Gun]

I've used and will continue to use it. But, common sense should tell us not to get it on you or breathe it in. Just as many people refused to believe smoking cigarettes caused cancer. The problem I have with these companies is they will lie to protect their assets. I think a simple explanation that they should tell people how to use it properly would go a long way. I'm sure we all have many chemicals in our homes and garages that can cause cancer if precautions aren't used.

 And there is the problem in this country. That is the reason we have those stupid spouts on our gas cans and all the ridiculous safeties on lawn mowers,ect. Because common sense is non existent. But face it, some people are to STUPID to follow directions anyway.....

[Gavin_Sons]

I prefer ground clear.

[Patrick]

Just heard on the radio that a jury just awarded a fella $239 million for his claimed cancer caused by Monsanto glyphosate [round-up].  The appeal should be interesting.

[carolinarider09]

Yes I use Round Up concentrate.  Just checked and the concentrate has an 8 year shelf life so I am going to go out and get another gallon of concentrate today.

Each gallon of concentrate usually lasts me two years or so.

I use a backpack sprayer for weed control on my gravel driveway. 

Wonder what these crews use that spray under/around power lines and such for tree/growth control.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Just heard on the radio that a jury just awarded a fella $239 million for his claimed cancer caused by Monsanto glyphosate [round-up].  The appeal should be interesting.

Maybe, but what was reported was that Monsanto’s internal reports were what got them.

[Beardo]

When I was growing up on the farm, we sprayed our crops with an open tractor, no respirator, no coveralls(it was hot), no gloves when putting the chemicals in the tank. We cleaned out the sprayer nozzle screens in an ice cream pail by blowing them out with our mouths. If none of that gave me cancer, I figure either I’m immune to it, or I already have it, so why worry about a bit of incidental contact with roundup now.

[The emperor has no clothes]

When I was growing up on the farm, we sprayed our crops with an open tractor, no respirator, no coveralls(it was hot), no gloves when putting the chemicals in the tank. We cleaned out the sprayer nozzle screens in an ice cream pail by blowing them out with our mouths. If none of that gave me cancer, I figure either I’m immune to it, or I already have it, so why worry about a bit of incidental contact with roundup now.

you Canadian farmers are tough SOB’s .

[Beardo]

When I was growing up on the farm, we sprayed our crops with an open tractor, no respirator, no coveralls(it was hot), no gloves when putting the chemicals in the tank. We cleaned out the sprayer nozzle screens in an ice cream pail by blowing them out with our mouths. If none of that gave me cancer, I figure either I’m immune to it, or I already have it, so why worry about a bit of incidental contact with roundup now.

you Canadian farmers are tough SOB’s .

Apparently we weren’t that bright either.

Those were different times, for sure.

[baldo]

I've used and will continue to use it. But, common sense should tell us not to get it on you or breathe it in. Just as many people refused to believe smoking cigarettes caused cancer. The problem I have with these companies is they will lie to protect their assets. I think a simple explanation that they should tell people how to use it properly would go a long way. I'm sure we all have many chemicals in our homes and garages that can cause cancer if precautions aren't used.

It's not the consumer level useage that should worry you. That is your choice to use it or not. It's the widespread commercial use that is bad for all of us.

https://www.consumersafety.org/safety/roundup-weed-killer/

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/monsanto-roundup-weed-killer-glyphosate-potential-cancer-chemical/

https://www.pressherald.com/2018/07/10/lawsuits-over-weed-killer-roundup-clear-major-hurdle/

https://theintercept.com/2016/05/17/new-evidence-about-the-dangers-of-monsantos-roundup/

They spray this over a large field and the wind carries it, contaminating others, many times crops that are being grown as organic.

Bees are killed by the hundreds of thousands. No bees, no food.

This is really bad stuff, pushed on us all by a vile corporation, and a corrupt EPA....

[0leman]

For the record I too have used RoundUp for many years, though not in the amount that others here have. It does do what I what it to.  I even have used spectracide, saw no difference.   I do take care to not breath it in, wear clothes to keep spray off of limbs, and wash after use.  But do that with any chemical that I use.

I too wonder about the WHO (World Health folks) report on the Roundup causing cancers.  I found several different articles on it.  It seems the WHO used some flawed research on the chemicals.  Really bad research.  It is possible it can cause cancer, life in general can cause cancer, so who knows for sure.  Remember the WHO are part of the same group that is sponsoring the Man Caused Global Warming.

[fudgie]

Bees are killed by the hundreds of thousands. No bees, no food.

Odd...Dad raises several thousand bees on the farm. We spray our fields several times a yr. The hives are 30 yards from the field and yet they live.  ???

[Kidd]

An once of vinegar   is more toxic than glyphosate .
 Vinegar is a top kill   , will not kill established weeds

News said there are hundreds more that are sick  from glyphosate   just waiting their turn in court 

[The emperor has no clothes]

When I was growing up on the farm, we sprayed our crops with an open tractor, no respirator, no coveralls(it was hot), no gloves when putting the chemicals in the tank. We cleaned out the sprayer nozzle screens in an ice cream pail by blowing them out with our mouths. If none of that gave me cancer, I figure either I’m immune to it, or I already have it, so why worry about a bit of incidental contact with roundup now.

you Canadian farmers are tough SOB’s .

Apparently we weren’t that bright either.

Those were different times, for sure.

No doubt. When I was a kid and we would visit my grandparents in the Rio Grande Valley, we would always have cotton bole wars in the field behind their house. There were many times the crop duster would dive bomb us.  (maybe that’s why bugs don’t attack me like they do my wife) 

[Serk]

Considering the many MANY millions of human deaths directly attributed to the banning of DDT, and the many millions that would quickly starve if basic pesticides and herbicides were banned, we should tread very VERY carefully before waving the ban hammer on useful, effective solutions.

[Beardo]

Considering the many MANY millions of human deaths directly attributed to the banning of DDT, and the many millions that would quickly starve if basic pesticides and herbicides were banned, we should tread very VERY carefully before waving the ban hammer on useful, effective solutions.

If people want to pay more to think they’re healthier because they eat organic or non GMO or whatever, good for them. If there’s a market for something, it will be produced. But if all chemicals made by the evil multinationals were banned, the world would be in big trouble.

I know a few people who think they’re healthier than everyone else because they eat organic. But they’ve never seen the inside of a gym or exercised a day in their life. It’s easier to just pay double for their food and do nothing else to be healthy.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Considering the many MANY millions of human deaths directly attributed to the banning of DDT, and the many millions that would quickly starve if basic pesticides and herbicides were banned, we should tread very VERY carefully before waving the ban hammer on useful, effective solutions.

If people want to pay more to think they’re healthier because they eat organic or non GMO or whatever, good for them. If there’s a market for something, it will be produced. But if all chemicals made by the evil multinationals were banned, the world would be in big trouble.

I know a few people who think they’re healthier than everyone else because they eat organic. But they’ve never seen the inside of a gym or exercised a day in their life. It’s easier to just pay double for their food and do nothing else to be healthy.

see that every day.

[JimmyG]

  see that every day.

Yep, I know plenty who think that way. It's downright comical

[Oss]

wow if you are payin double something is off  Lucky to live where I do.

Some like strawberries are heavily sprayed unless organic.

Maybe its me and that is ok if it is but I will pay a few bucks extra a week for local farm fresh, I like supporting local business and farms.
It is just how I am.  It seems most of the local farms are organic so maybe that keeps the price down  I dont know for sure

I do know that I am not consuming pesticides and that is good by me.

Also have a whole house filter for the sediment and chlorine and one in the basement that goes to the kitchen sink that takes flouride, chlorine and pesticides etc from the water.  It tastes better than the heavily chlorinated stuff I taste when travelling. We got into this when the oldest got cancer. Now it just is how we roll. YMMV

I have enjoyed the time growing organic foods cant say they taste better but all is fresh and alive till we eat them It is good to know we grew them and get to enjoy them Kale,carrots, broccoli, tomatoes, potatoes, cucumbers, beets, squashes, beans, eggplants, peppers,garlic and onions this year. Yeah and strawberries all decended from plants my dad gave me before he passed. Forgot all the lettuce which was over by beginning of June when they bolted

Do what works for you, I wont call you comical or stupid to do or not do what works for you. Respect goes two ways.

[JimmyG]

   I feel ya Oss. I'm just lucky and live around farms and get it local too. I like the way you think though, keep our local farmer going any way we can.    I was thinking of some of my family when I wrote that ??? Some comical stuff comes out of their mouths...

[Gavin_Sons]

Bees are killed by the hundreds of thousands. No bees, no food.

Odd...Dad raises several thousand bees on the farm. We spray our fields several times a yr. The hives are 30 yards from the field and yet they live.  ???

So weird. 

[baldo]

Bees are killed by the hundreds of thousands. No bees, no food.

Odd...Dad raises several thousand bees on the farm. We spray our fields several times a yr. The hives are 30 yards from the field and yet they live.  ???

Yes it is quite odd. I think you should go buy some lottery tickets.....

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/what-is-killing-americas-bees-and-what-does-it-mean-for-us-41456/

https://www.newsweek.com/epa-bee-killing-pesticide-american-farmland-756130

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2167537-the-european-union-has-decided-to-ban-bee-killing-pesticides/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/05/26/third-nations-honeybee-colonies-died-last-year-why-you-should-care/348418001/

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/neonicotinoid-pesticides-slowly-killing-bees

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/are-pesticides-killing-off-honey-bees/

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[MP]

Bees are killed by the hundreds of thousands. No bees, no food.

Odd...Dad raises several thousand bees on the farm. We spray our fields several times a yr. The hives are 30 yards from the field and yet they live.  ???

Yes it is quite odd. I think you should go buy some lottery tickets.....

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/what-is-killing-americas-bees-and-what-does-it-mean-for-us-41456/

https://www.newsweek.com/epa-bee-killing-pesticide-american-farmland-756130

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2167537-the-european-union-has-decided-to-ban-bee-killing-pesticides/

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/05/26/third-nations-honeybee-colonies-died-last-year-why-you-should-care/348418001/

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/neonicotinoid-pesticides-slowly-killing-bees

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/are-pesticides-killing-off-honey-bees/

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I read most of these. Couple took long time to load, so I didn't wait.
NONE referenced glyphosphate. Roundup.
As usual, the tree lovers, as yourself, lump ALL products together.
Every article you posted, that loaded, referenced INSECTICIDES! ALL.
INSECTICIDES kill insects.
HERBICIDES, such as glyphosphate, kill certain PLANTS.
Yet, you lump all together.

I have literally sprayed thousands of gallons of the concentrated industrial strength Roundup over the last several decades. All my neighbor farmers have too.
No bee kills. No insect kills. No cancer causation. None of this bull puckey.