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https://dailycaller.com/2018/10/15/elizabeth-warren-less-native-american-dna/?fbclid=IwAR3t3JeETaxiO0GB0-yvkD_bdh69ttoaAZsXMu2qRSGFsqycYULAvP0oiSsbasically EAs have more NA DNA than warren The average European-American has 0.18 percent Native American DNA, according to a comprehensive study by the Genetic Literacy Project. https://dailycaller.com/2018/10/15/warren-mexican-native-american-dna/The DNA scientist who completed an ancestry test for Democratic Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren was unable to use Native American DNA in his examination. Carlos D. Bustamante, a Stanford University professor, used samples from Mexico, Peru, and Colombia to attempt to calculate how much Native American ancestry is in Warren’s DNA. “To make up for the dearth of Native American DNA, Bustamante used samples from Mexico, Peru, and Colombia to stand in for Native American. That’s because scientists believe that the groups Americans refer to as Native American came to this land via the Bering Strait about 12,000 years ago and settled in what’s now America but also migrated further south,” the Boston Globe explained. According to the American Indian and Alaska Native Genetics Resource Center, no DNA test can “prove” that someone is American Indian because there are no unique genes for American Indian ancestry.
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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2018, 05:17:19 AM » |
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The report stated between 1/64th and 1/1024th.
But of course the press descend like starving vultures on the smaller amount.
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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2018, 06:02:31 AM » |
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Could she be sued by Harvard for fraud?
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« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2018, 07:27:30 AM » |
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From the second linked article: According to the American Indian and Alaska Native Genetics Resource Center, no DNA test can “prove” that someone is American Indian because there are no unique genes for American Indian ancestry. Much ado about nothing. She's not what she claims to be but DNA testing has nothing to do with knowing or not knowing that. Go out and get in a ride or two. |
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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2018, 09:37:33 AM » |
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I'm a Heinz 57 from north and west Europe. (mostly Scott/Irish) Though I have some remote pioneer ancestors who may have screwed a sheep or buffalo or something. Winters can be long you know. |
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My grandmother was 1/2 Crow Indian. I don't really know what that makes me, but I don't walk around telling people I'm Native American! 1/64th or 1/128th, Warren should not run around opening her mouth about her Native Ancestory. It's irrelevant, just like mine!
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I'm a Heinz 57 from north and west Europe. (mostly Scott/Irish) Though I have some remote pioneer ancestors who may have screwed a sheep or buffalo or something. Winters can be long you know. Yeah , that explains a lot of your post  I am part Blackfoot Indian or something like that . A few months ago I asked an Indian if he was Indian and he said. "You jack ass , I am American , it was Christopher Columbus who thought he landed in India and called us Indians when we are really the original Americans , didn't they teach you that in grade school ?" |
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« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2018, 10:45:33 AM » |
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My grandmother was 1/2 Crow Indian. I don't really know what that makes me, but I don't walk around telling people I'm Native American! 1/64th or 1/128th, Warren should not run around opening her mouth about her Native Ancestory. It's irrelevant, just like mine!
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« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2018, 12:08:19 PM » |
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playing the system since 1970 She enrolled in the University of Houston and graduated in 1970 with a Bachelor of Science degree in speech pathology and audiology.[27][28][29] For a year, she taught children with disabilities who were enrolled in a public school. Her qualifications were based on an "emergency certificate", because she had not taken the education courses that were required for a regular teaching certificate. Two years later, Warren married Bruce H. Mann, a law professor, but she decided to retain the surname of her first husband. In April 2012, The Boston Globe sparked a campaign controversy by reporting that from 1986 to 1995 Warren had listed herself as a racial minority in the Association of American Law Schools (AALS) Directory of Law Teachers.[37] Harvard Law School had identified Warren as a "woman of color" in response to criticisms about a lack of faculty diversity. Warren stated that she had listed herself as a minority to meet people of similar heritage, and was unaware that Harvard had listed her as a woman of color. Genealogical investigators could not find proof that Warren's ancestors were or were not Native American,[42][48][49] with the Oklahoma Historical Society noting that it can be difficult to trace Native American heritage because of intermarriage and deliberate avoidance of registration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Warren |
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« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2018, 04:52:00 PM » |
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A few months ago I asked an Indian if he was Indian and he said.
"You jack ass , I am American , it was Christopher Columbus who thought he landed in India and called us Indians when we are really the original Americans , didn't they teach you that in grade school ?"
I'm an American too. I'm a Canadian North American. Just like a European, there are German's, French, etc.. What we call American's are actually Texan's, Floridian's, etc, as you are a country of the United States, therefore shouldn't you be called something along that line then? Yah, American's. Will this ever take off? No, but has been something I've been thinking of, and then this post came up. The other issue I try to banter around too is, how long do you need to be somewhere before you are considered a Native to that country? One leg of my family has been here since early 1700's I recall. |
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« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2018, 05:52:54 PM » |
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The other issue I try to banter around too is, how long do you need to be somewhere before you are considered a Native to that country? One leg of my family has been here since early 1700's I recall. My belief is that, in order to be considered Native, one has to have been born there. |
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English parents and I was born in Singapore.
Do that make me Singaporean?
Where do we draw the line? Does my friend who was born in South Africa, to parents who had been in South Africa for hundreds of years, then migrated here, get to claim African American status? .....or we could drop all the crap and just say if you accept American values, earned American citizenship, then you're an American... .........or not.,........ |
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I am 25.1% Native American based on my dna results. The results place my Native dna as based on closest matches as Texas and Mexico. My mother’s family has been here around the San Antonio general area give or take 150 miles or so since this was Spain. My grandfather looked 100% Native American and said we were Apache. The Apaches were in this area before being driven out by the Comanches. Of course there was intermarriage over the course of a few hundred years.
I did my dna with “23 and me” and it gives you your haplogroups which are where your direct parental lineages come from. In other words, your mother to mother to mother etc for everyone, and father to father to father etc for men since we carry the y chromosone that women don’t. My mother’s mother’s mother, etc is group A2 which are those that came across the land bridge from Berengia, or the Siberia, Alaska passage down into North America. Yes, original Native American on my Grandmother’s side. So both of my mother’s grandparents are part Native American, but without a known lineage of names (generations ago) or tribal affiliation via names, I can not be considered Native American according to the laws. Believe me, I would love for my kids to get scholarships by claiming Native American ancestry, but it doesn’t work that way.
Warren is 1/1024th and used that? What a freaking joke.
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I don't much like Ms Warren or her politics. However, after Regents of University of California v. Bakke (1978), when the Court ruled unconstitutional a university's use of racial "quotas" in its admissions process, but held that affirmative action programs could be constitutional (if done in a court approved manner), any plain old white person (by ordinary, non scientific standards), might be foolish not to take advantage of government and private admissions and hiring practices tipping the scales in favor of non-white people (and women). Allan Bakke, a white man, was denied admission to a medical school that had admitted black candidates with weaker academic credentials. I know to a certainty that the law school of my choice would not take me (1979) because of their affirmative action program. My 3.79 GPA Magna Cum Laude BS degree from a good state university was not good enough, if I (a white male) couldn't score in the top 2% on the LSAT (law school admission test) (and I couldn't, I tried twice, and the best I did was about 83%). I know because they told me so. Every other school I applied to took me, and I went to one of those. But I was pretty disappointed and pissed off I couldn't go where I wanted. Ms Warren graduated law school (Rutgers) in 1976, so Bakke had nothing to do with that, but after 1978 it could help you get hired as law school teacher at the University of Texas, the University of Pennsylvania, and Harvard which she did (American law schools were among the first to take up affirmative action after it became a lawful practice). She reportedly first claimed native American heritage in 1986. Harvard Law School identified Warren as a "woman of color" in response to criticisms about a lack of faculty diversity. After that she became a politician. She is a woman of color..... white.  Pocahontas |
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So.....when is Trump going to pay the $1 million to her favorite charity.....hmmmmm....He never specified that she had to be full native, only that if she was an Indian.  I don't think she ever claimed to be a full status Indian just that she had Indian heritage. Just another one of his lies. Put it on the list with the others I guess. https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/us/archive-video-shows-trump-offered-warren-1m-for-dna-test-1.3665384 |
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A descendent from the real pochahontis just called for Ms Warren to appologize for her lies and misuse of supposed native American heritage. The President will not be paying the faker's charity based on their bet, he won the bet! https://video.foxnews.com/v/5849670198001/?#sp=show-clips |
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I don't think a fingernail full of Native American DNA qualifies. She bragged as if she were a real closer decent of Native Americans. I don't think 9or 10 generations counts.
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She publicly noted that she was a Cherokee. That means a Cherokee native American. Not a white Jeep! |
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lets see, she used a professor who doesn't work in a lab. he or the lab he used, had to use dna from other countries since there is zero American Indian DNA avail to compare. so more Fake news from a democrat. and as I posted she listed herself as a minority in college for whatever perks it gave her. |
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Yeah just another lie  Last i checked .09% does not make you an Indian. Most of us Americans have twice that amount. So go ahead, continue to give us your foreign opinion on things that do not affect you at all. |
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1/1024th. To be that one would have to have in his lineage one Indian about 220 years ago with no even partial Indian entry before or after. Sounds a bit fishy to me.
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https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/day-2-elizabeth-warrens-ancestor-actually-helped-slaughter-indians-report-says/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=deepsix&utm_campaign=can&utm_content=2018-10-17&fbclid=IwAR3b6a3MCO6qB2oyaXDxa20DJ4eRlcio8RutffNMfNpr80mKuwBIUbaCGlcsee link for full article “But the most stunning discovery about the life of O.C. Sarah Smith Crawford is that her husband, Ms. Warren’s great-great-great grandfather, was apparently a member of the Tennessee Militia who rounded up Cherokees from their family homes in the Southeastern United States and herded them into government-built stockades in what was then called Ross’s Landing (now Chattanooga), Tennessee – the point of origin for the horrific Trail of Tears, which began in January, 1837,” Leahy wrote. The Trail of Tears, the forced migration of the Cherokee people east of the Mississippi River to Oklahoma under the administration of Andrew Jackson, ended with over 4,000 men, women and children dead, according to the Cherokee Nation website. And apparently, if we can even assume Warren is correct about her ancestry and that this report is accurate, one of the men who played a part in it married her “Cherokee” relative. “Jonathan Crawford, O.C. Sarah Smith Crawford’s husband and apparently Ms. Warren’s great-great-great grandfather, served in the East Tennessee Mounted Infantry Volunteer Militia commanded by Brigadier General R. G. Dunlap from late 1835 to late 1836,” Leahy wrote. “While under Dunlap’s command he was a member of Major William Lauderdale’s Battalion, and Captain Richard E. Waterhouse’s Company. “These were the troops responsible for removing Cherokee families from homes they had lived in for generations in the three states that the Cherokee Nations had considered their homelands for centuries: Georgia, North Carolina, and Tennessee,” he continued. “While these involuntary home removals were not characterized by widespread violence, the newly displaced Cherokee mothers, fathers, and children found an oppressive and sometimes brutal welcome when they finally arrived at the hastily constructed containment areas. An estimated 4,000 Cherokees were warehoused in Ross’s Landing stockades for months awaiting supplies and additional armed guards the Federal Government believed necessary to relocate them on foot to Oklahoma.” Crawford wasn’t one of the men who helped bring the troops to Oklahoma, but given the end result of the effort — something all involved likely had some inkling of it — he was certainly implicated in the slaughter. Crawford also served in the Battalion of Tennessee Mounted Infantry Volunteer Militia during the Second Seminole War in 1837, a conflict that ended with even more dead Native Americans (as one might expect). So the best-case scenario involves her having as much oppressor blood in her as oppressed. And as Leahy points out, that’s not an incredibly likely scenario: “Neither O.C. Sarah Smith Crawford, Jonathan Crawford, nor any of their seven other children, apparently ever claimed that O.C. Sarah Smith Crawford had Cherokee heritage.” “It is time for Ms. Warren to publicly acknowledge the truth of her ancestry,” Leahy concluded his report six years ago. “It is time for her to admit that she has no Native American heritage that she can prove; and it is time for her to acknowledge instead, that she is likely a direct descendant of a Tennessee Militiaman who apparently rounded up the ancestors of those who truly have Cherokee heritage, the first step in their forced removal from the Southeastern United States to Oklahoma over the long and tragic Trail of Tears.”
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“..., Ms. Warren’s great-great-great grandfather, was apparently a member of the Tennessee Militia...”
... one of the men who played a part in it married her “Cherokee” relative.
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Warren and Kerry could team up and run together on the Stolen Honor ticket.
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Maybe you could offer up an apology for calling our President a liar inappropriately. hmmmmm Sure...as soon as you tell me how he is not a liar. That is such an ignorant statement I won't even try to honor it with a response other than President Trump won that bet so there's no lie, you are a pot stirer here. Im done. |
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Maybe you could offer up an apology for calling our President a liar inappropriately. hmmmmm Sure...as soon as you tell me how he is not a liar. That is such an ignorant statement I won't even try to honor it with a response other than President Trump won that bet so there's no lie, you are a pot stirer here. Im done. One day he will lick that spoon. |
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