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« on: October 25, 2018, 07:05:24 AM »

https://gellerreport.com/2018/10/muslima-rep-brother.html/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

Minnesota state Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-60B) currently leads the race to fill the federal House seat being vacated by Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN). Immediately after being elected to her current seat in 2016, Omar faced allegations — soon backed by a remarkable amount of evidence — that she had married her own brother in 2009, and was still legally his wife. They officially divorced in December 2017.

The motivation for the marriage remains unclear. However, the totality of the evidence points to possible immigration fraud and student loan fraud.

Rep. Omar has stated that she did marry “British citizen” Ahmed Nur Said Elmi in 2009, though the allegation that he is her brother is “absurd and offensive.”

Below, exclusive new evidence — from official archived high school records and corroborating sources — strongly supports the claim that Ahmed Nur Said Elmi is indeed her brother.

As this implicates Rep. Omar in multiple state and federal felonies, I have contacted the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Minnesota to submit all other information uncovered during our investigation.


Ilhan Omar has accused Israel of “evil doings” in Gaza and called Israel an “apartheid state.” It isn’t surprising that Ilhan Omar would think this way. She is a hijab-wearing, devout Muslim, and Islamic Jew-hatred is in the Quran. What is shameful about this is that her views are mainstream in the Democrat Party today. She should never have been chosen as a candidate for Congress with hateful views of this kind, but this is the way the Democrat leadership, and the Democrat base, thinks. They want candidates like Ilhan Omar. And they know they’ll win, because this is their base today. Neither the Democrat leadership nor the Democrat base cares that she married her brother. She is a Muslim and a leftist, so she can further their identity politics. That’s all that matters to them.

“Official School Records Support Claims That Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) Married Her Brother,” by David Steinberg, PJ Media, October 23, 2018 (thanks to Mark):
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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2018, 08:51:18 AM »

One can be opposed to the actions of the state of Israel against Palestinians and not be a Jew-hater.  Not that I know anything about whether Ilhan Omar actually is or isn't a Jew-hater.
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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2018, 10:03:14 AM »

All for the all freedoms.

BUT>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I have never understood how any intelligent woman could be of the muslim faith!!! Given a free choice.
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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2018, 01:42:45 PM »

I've always heard incest was best.
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« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2018, 02:00:04 PM »

I've always heard incest was best.


Ahem!

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« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2018, 02:52:00 PM »

Incest , crazy2 them kin you love to touch. Roll Eyes

  So if they get divorced Cry , are the still legally brother and sister. 2funny



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« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2018, 02:52:31 PM »



Way to one up him Britman  Grin
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« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2018, 03:03:09 PM »







LOL, it didn't mention an Omar. What rhymes with that ?
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« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2018, 03:52:14 PM »

"EU Court Rules Insulting Prophet Mohammed Is “Not Freedom Of Expression”…

The European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) ruled on Thursday that insulting Islam’s Prophet Mohammed is not covered by freedom of expression.

Defaming the Prophet “goes beyond the permissible limits of an objective debate” and “could stir up prejudice and put at risk religious peace,” the ruling stated.

The decision by a seven-judge panel came after an Austrian national identified as Mrs. S. held two seminars in 2009 in which she insulted the prophet."



I wonder if insulting Jesus would be the same thing  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2018, 04:15:33 PM »


I wonder if insulting Jesus would be the same thing  Roll Eyes

In a world where all is fair, it should and would be.

You can bet that it isn't though.
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« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2018, 04:44:33 PM »

I wonder if insulting Jesus would be the same thing  Roll Eyes
In a world where all is fair, it should and would be.
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Not so much.  Mohammed is dead and can't defend himself.
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« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2018, 04:47:11 PM »


I wonder if insulting Jesus would be the same thing  Roll Eyes

In a world where all is fair, it should and would be.

You can bet that it isn't though.

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18 “If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. 19 If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you.
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« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2018, 05:10:33 PM »

I can tell there is a framed picture of bill o'reilly on the walls of a lot of the members here  Roll Eyes


Crazy to think there's still idiots out there that think muslims are trying to spread shariah law in america.
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« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2018, 05:57:41 PM »

I can tell there is a framed picture of bill o'reilly on the walls of a lot of the members here  Roll Eyes


Crazy to think there's still idiots out there that think muslims are trying to spread shariah law in america.
Been to the Detroit area lately?
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« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2018, 06:02:54 PM »

I wonder if insulting Jesus would be the same thing  Roll Eyes
In a world where all is fair, it should and would be.
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Not so much.  Mohammed is dead and can't defend himself.

 2funny 2funny  cooldude where is the drum roll when you need it  Cool
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« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2018, 06:40:09 PM »

I can tell there is a framed picture of bill o'reilly on the walls of a lot of the members here  Roll Eyes


Crazy to think there's still idiots out there that think muslims are trying to spread shariah law in america.
Been to the Detroit area lately?

Specifically - Dearborn...
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« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2018, 08:14:19 PM »

I can tell there is a framed picture of bill o'reilly on the walls of a lot of the members here  Roll Eyes


Crazy to think there's still idiots out there that think muslims are trying to spread shariah law in america.
Must be a pretty big rock you've been living under in recent years. Either that or you simply choose to ignore the very thing they preach. Texas had to literally pass a law that outlawed sharia law, telling those that wanted their followers to be subject to it that no matter what.....they will be subject to the laws of Texas. Period!
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« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2018, 02:19:51 AM »

I can tell there is a framed picture of bill o'reilly on the walls of a lot of the members here  Roll Eyes


Crazy to think there's still idiots out there that think muslims are trying to spread shariah law in america.

 Grin yeah we are a crazy group. And apparently a bunch of idiots.
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« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2018, 03:04:04 AM »

I can tell there is a framed picture of bill o'reilly on the walls of a lot of the members here  Roll Eyes


Crazy to think there's still idiots out there that think muslims are trying to spread shariah law in america.

 Grin yeah we are a crazy group. And apparently a bunch of idiots.




Yep, we're a crazy bunch of idiots that prefer the facts.
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« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2018, 05:52:30 AM »

I can tell there is a framed picture of bill o'reilly on the walls of a lot of the members here  Roll Eyes


Crazy to think there's still idiots out there that think muslims are trying to spread shariah law in america.
Crazy for you to think we live in a vacuum where we'd actually believe otherwise. Been around Dearborn, MI lately?
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« Reply #20 on: October 26, 2018, 06:20:05 AM »

I have.
Have you?

There is a lot of crazy bullshiit concerning Dearborn on this board that is completely false.
Like neighborhoods where cops are afraid to go. Like no one speaks English. Like Dearborn is under sharia law.

Truth is, Dearborn is a very nice, safe, upscale middle and upper class neighborhood that happens to be about 35% Muslim. Home of Ford Motor Company and many top executives that live in mansions. It’s a more desirable area than many others.
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« Reply #21 on: October 26, 2018, 07:57:37 AM »

I have.
Have you?

There is a lot of crazy bullshiit concerning Dearborn on this board that is completely false.
Like neighborhoods where cops are afraid to go. Like no one speaks English. Like Dearborn is under sharia law.

Truth is, Dearborn is a very nice, safe, upscale middle and upper class neighborhood that happens to be about 35% Muslim. Home of Ford Motor Company and many top executives that live in mansions. It’s a more desirable area than many others.


yea ok

This has happened and continues to be the case for Dearborn, Michigan. Let’s take a look at 3 instances…

First, take the case of Nabeel Qureshi and David Wood. They and 2 other evangelical Christians were arrested for “disorderly conduct” at Dearborn’s Arab festival in 2010 for simply passing out Christian literature on the sidewalk outside of the festival. As you can clearly see in the video they were hardly being ‘disorderly’, they were only exercising their freedom of speech and freedom of religion on an American street, and act protected by our Constitution.

But in Sharia law, it is forbidden for a non-Muslims to openly proclaim their beliefs to Muslims and Muslims can’t leave Islam under penalty of death. As Sharia law is the guiding force for Muslim behavior – we ultimately have the makings of conflict as Sharia law is not completely compatable with our Constitution.

If Sharia law commanded that Muslims respect the laws in whatever country they immigrated to, we would not have this conflict. But, quite to the contrary, Sharia law commands that Muslims not just rebel against, but actually kill ‘the infidels’. In this case, it commanded them to take control of the local community and the local police dept. in order to cease violation of Sharia by these ‘Christian infidels’.

These Christians tried passing out their literature and were quickly arrested, even having their camera illegally confiscated, by a dozen officers. In order to do exercise their rights, they were told they had to be many, many blocks away from the Arab festival.

This is clearly a violation of the Constitution in favor of Islamic Sharia law.

http://www.truthandaction.org/dearborn-michigan-first-city-us-enforce-sharia-law/2/
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« Reply #22 on: October 26, 2018, 08:40:52 AM »

I can tell there is a framed picture of bill o'reilly on the walls of a lot of the members here  Roll Eyes


Crazy to think there's still idiots out there that think muslims are trying to spread shariah law in america.
Crazy for you to think we live in a vacuum where we'd actually believe otherwise. Been around Dearborn, MI lately?

Have you? Judging by the posts it sounds like none of you have, but you've sure heard the stories on the media.

Apologize for the idiot comment, it was meant as a general statement but I don't think anyone is an idiot for having a different opinion. It's been a wild week

I really hope you guys see past what the media is trying to push down everyones throat. That craps not real. Muslims arent trying to get shariah law over here. That's that .001% stuff...

There's much more sickening stuff going on,  that stuff is shown to us to manipulate the way we think.
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« Reply #23 on: October 26, 2018, 08:57:14 AM »

I have.
Have you?

There is a lot of crazy bullshiit concerning Dearborn on this board that is completely false.
Like neighborhoods where cops are afraid to go. Like no one speaks English. Like Dearborn is under sharia law.

Truth is, Dearborn is a very nice, safe, upscale middle and upper class neighborhood that happens to be about 35% Muslim. Home of Ford Motor Company and many top executives that live in mansions. It’s a more desirable area than many others.


yea ok

This has happened and continues to be the case for Dearborn, Michigan. Let’s take a look at 3 instances…

First, take the case of Nabeel Qureshi and David Wood. They and 2 other evangelical Christians were arrested for “disorderly conduct” at Dearborn’s Arab festival in 2010 for simply passing out Christian literature on the sidewalk outside of the festival. As you can clearly see in the video they were hardly being ‘disorderly’, they were only exercising their freedom of speech and freedom of religion on an American street, and act protected by our Constitution.

But in Sharia law, it is forbidden for a non-Muslims to openly proclaim their beliefs to Muslims and Muslims can’t leave Islam under penalty of death. As Sharia law is the guiding force for Muslim behavior – we ultimately have the makings of conflict as Sharia law is not completely compatable with our Constitution.

If Sharia law commanded that Muslims respect the laws in whatever country they immigrated to, we would not have this conflict. But, quite to the contrary, Sharia law commands that Muslims not just rebel against, but actually kill ‘the infidels’. In this case, it commanded them to take control of the local community and the local police dept. in order to cease violation of Sharia by these ‘Christian infidels’.

These Christians tried passing out their literature and were quickly arrested, even having their camera illegally confiscated, by a dozen officers. In order to do exercise their rights, they were told they had to be many, many blocks away from the Arab festival.

This is clearly a violation of the Constitution in favor of Islamic Sharia law.

http://www.truthandaction.org/dearborn-michigan-first-city-us-enforce-sharia-law/2/



Bro that's not true about the Shariah law. Just think about it... If this evil shariah law has been around for so long, why has it never been instituted ANYWHERE. Just little stories on media that fizzle out in a week tops.

I'm not saying there isn't crazy muslims out there. There's crazy people everywhere. But the religion and even Shariah law isn't what you have been told.

It's such a big topic to even start but let's just take your example of 'kill the infidel'

The part about migration says, and I'm translating this from OLD SCHOOL ARABIC, you know, times when things were a bit more cut throat...basically says:

If you're in a infidel country and an infidel tries to prevent you from going to your mosque, you can kill them.

Crazy? Sure. But all the religions pretty much say that same poop.


It's sad to think there's so much hate between people over misunderstandings.

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« Reply #24 on: October 26, 2018, 09:26:35 AM »

I have.
Have you?

There is a lot of crazy bullshiit concerning Dearborn on this board that is completely false.
Like neighborhoods where cops are afraid to go. Like no one speaks English. Like Dearborn is under sharia law.

Truth is, Dearborn is a very nice, safe, upscale middle and upper class neighborhood that happens to be about 35% Muslim. Home of Ford Motor Company and many top executives that live in mansions. It’s a more desirable area than many others.


yea ok

This has happened and continues to be the case for Dearborn, Michigan. Let’s take a look at 3 instances…

First, take the case of Nabeel Qureshi and David Wood. They and 2 other evangelical Christians were arrested for “disorderly conduct” at Dearborn’s Arab festival in 2010 for simply passing out Christian literature on the sidewalk outside of the festival. As you can clearly see in the video they were hardly being ‘disorderly’, they were only exercising their freedom of speech and freedom of religion on an American street, and act protected by our Constitution.

But in Sharia law, it is forbidden for a non-Muslims to openly proclaim their beliefs to Muslims and Muslims can’t leave Islam under penalty of death. As Sharia law is the guiding force for Muslim behavior – we ultimately have the makings of conflict as Sharia law is not completely compatable with our Constitution.

If Sharia law commanded that Muslims respect the laws in whatever country they immigrated to, we would not have this conflict. But, quite to the contrary, Sharia law commands that Muslims not just rebel against, but actually kill ‘the infidels’. In this case, it commanded them to take control of the local community and the local police dept. in order to cease violation of Sharia by these ‘Christian infidels’.

These Christians tried passing out their literature and were quickly arrested, even having their camera illegally confiscated, by a dozen officers. In order to do exercise their rights, they were told they had to be many, many blocks away from the Arab festival.

This is clearly a violation of the Constitution in favor of Islamic Sharia law.

http://www.truthandaction.org/dearborn-michigan-first-city-us-enforce-sharia-law/2/



Bro that's not true about the Shariah law. Just think about it... If this evil shariah law has been around for so long, why has it never been instituted ANYWHERE. Just little stories on media that fizzle out in a week tops.

I'm not saying there isn't crazy muslims out there. There's crazy people everywhere. But the religion and even Shariah law isn't what you have been told.

It's such a big topic to even start but let's just take your example of 'kill the infidel'

The part about migration says, and I'm translating this from OLD SCHOOL ARABIC, you know, times when things were a bit more cut throat...basically says:

If you're in a infidel country and an infidel tries to prevent you from going to your mosque, you can kill them.

Crazy? Sure. But all the religions pretty much say that same poop.


It's sad to think there's so much hate between people over misunderstandings.




Are you Muslim?
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« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2018, 09:27:10 AM »

You’re about to argue with a the Club’s #1 Conspiracy Theorist even though he can’t count to three? Not me.

Remember, watching videos in your mother’s basement makes you an expert on NOTHING.
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« Reply #26 on: October 26, 2018, 10:15:56 AM »

You’re about to argue with a the Club’s #1 Conspiracy Theorist even though he can’t count to three? Not me.

Remember, watching videos in your mother’s basement makes you an expert on NOTHING.

I would agree that not all Muslims are bad. The ones i have had interactions with are very nice people. I also agree that the 1% ones gives the rest a bad rap. Just like cops. 1 cop has a power trip and it gives the whole force a bad name.
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« Reply #27 on: October 26, 2018, 11:55:01 AM »

I have.
Have you?

There is a lot of crazy bullshiit concerning Dearborn on this board that is completely false.
Like neighborhoods where cops are afraid to go. Like no one speaks English. Like Dearborn is under sharia law.

Truth is, Dearborn is a very nice, safe, upscale middle and upper class neighborhood that happens to be about 35% Muslim. Home of Ford Motor Company and many top executives that live in mansions. It’s a more desirable area than many others.
How about the non-Muslim businesses forced out of their leases by non-renewal or tripled rent, so that the local Waffle House becomes the Falafal House? Am what I've read incorrect (including Google Earth) Been to Dearborn twice "in the past". Stayed at the Dearborn Inn like a good little infidel Wink
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« Reply #28 on: October 26, 2018, 11:57:18 AM »

"But all the religions pretty much say that same poop".  No they don't. That's insane, are you an advertising agent? 
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« Reply #29 on: October 26, 2018, 12:12:15 PM »

"But all the religions pretty much say that same poop".  No they don't.
Yes, yes they do.  All Abrahamic religions base their fundamental believe systems on interpretations of the Old Testament.  Every one.

Jews believe in writings of the Old Testament, dead stop.  Christians believe the Old Testament, modified by the New Testament.  Muslims believe the Old Testament, interpretation of the New Testament, and the writings of the Quran.

Therefore, fundamentally, with the basis of all the Abrahamic religions being the same, the Old Testament, they must, therefore, begin their beliefs from a common point - they all say, at the beginning, pretty much the same (poop).
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« Reply #30 on: October 26, 2018, 01:11:47 PM »

"But all the religions pretty much say that same poop".  No they don't.
Yes, yes they do.  All Abrahamic religions base their fundamental believe systems on interpretations of the Old Testament.  Every one.

Jews believe in writings of the Old Testament, dead stop.  Christians believe the Old Testament, modified by the New Testament.  Muslims believe the Old Testament, interpretation of the New Testament, and the writings of the Quran.

Therefore, fundamentally, with the basis of all the Abrahamic religions being the same, the Old Testament, they must, therefore, begin their beliefs from a common point - they all say, at the beginning, pretty much the same (poop).

your completely incorrect and fundamentally ignorant of the subject. very clear u peruse nothing but the atheist/free thinker websites and where all agree with each about false incorrect information making each feel good about the rejection of the inherent knowledge of God He put into every person.
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« Reply #31 on: October 26, 2018, 01:55:07 PM »

Here in America, we Americans capitalize the word America.
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« Reply #32 on: October 26, 2018, 02:24:58 PM »

"But all the religions pretty much say that same poop".  No they don't.
Yes, yes they do.  All Abrahamic religions base their fundamental believe systems on interpretations of the Old Testament.  Every one.

Jews believe in writings of the Old Testament, dead stop.  Christians believe the Old Testament, modified by the New Testament.  Muslims believe the Old Testament, interpretation of the New Testament, and the writings of the Quran.

Therefore, fundamentally, with the basis of all the Abrahamic religions being the same, the Old Testament, they must, therefore, begin their beliefs from a common point - they all say, at the beginning, pretty much the same (poop).

While you are partly right, you are also way wrong. Its equivalent to saying an orange and an apple are the same. While they have the same father they are different mothers and have different promises from God and do not follow the Torah or the Bible. But what God does say about them is this.

Gen 16:12  "He will be a wild donkey of a man, His hand will be against everyone, And everyone's hand will be against him; And he will live to the east of all his brothers."

Not to mention they believe in Mohamed have the Koran and that is where the rules of their religion started, they do not share in Abramic covenant either. In fact the Koran has some beautiful passages in it but that is not the one they are to follow since the last one written is the one they are to follow, and that one is all about war. So no they are not the same and dont have the same promises and even God says they are NOT the children of promise. You forgot linage and promises and what book they follow.

Gen 22:2  He said, "Take now your son, your only son, whom you love, Isaac, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I will tell you."

God made it very clear who are the children of promise, follow the blood line.
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« Reply #33 on: October 26, 2018, 02:52:52 PM »

I have tried so hard to ignore this thread

I have been to Dearborn, I have been to the Ford plant and museum (and also to Battle Creek to eat frosted flakes but I digress)

We can agree with certain premises yes or no

Most people are fundamentally good people who dont wish ill on others
Most people are sheep who will follow whatever the law is that they are told they have to follow

Some people have a desire for power
Those people do not wish to give up power

That you dont need an entire people to subjugate a people

That most people do not wish to fight power

Now here is the rub my brother

Most Germans were good people before Hitler took over and their military was not the SS. Purges like the communist did in Russia took care of those in the weirmacht (sp) and in government. True, there was great poverty because of the reparations forced on the axis and the people were ripe to believe in someone who could lift them and they needed something to believe in and therefore something to hate/ this pattern is repeated often in history

Many say that their book is a manifesto of conquest, especially because of the last book of the Koran which turns the other books on its head.  I do not condemn it but it is not compatible with swearing an oath to the Constitution in my opinion. You either believe in the Constitution or you do not. If not get the hell out of here.

Is it no small wonder that so many call it a manifesto of conquest and death to those who do not follow whatever TRUE brand the mullah identifies in your country

Therefore one muslim may rightfully kill another muslim because of difference of opinion what does the Koran really say  Look at Iran and Iraq and many other wars

AND they do and they have killed millions of their brother moslems because of affronts and other such over the millenia
And the Christians have likewise killed millions of moslems and jews
And the Moslems kill Christians (open season) and Jews (no limit)
and there is nothing in the Koran or coming from the mouth of any religious leader in this world saying otherwise save Kaahn here

Sharia law is not compatible with the US Constitution. This country fought them over two centuries ago...its why we have leathernecks
M A R I N E S.

Today they still sell slaves, take women as slaves, kill gays, kill women for nothing, lie, promote dehumanization of the entire jewish people and christians as well

So if you really believe what you said go ahead  The free country knows your opinion now but dont wait for the line to follow you

Oss

Lest you think I hate all who pray to Mecca I do not. I have broken bread with my moslem brothers many times, and have a great many clients who pray for our country and Donald Trump. I know because they tell me they hope he can bring the haters out and kick them out
because good people need the sheepdogs to protect them from the wolves of the world
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« Reply #34 on: October 26, 2018, 04:09:21 PM »

"But all the religions pretty much say that same poop".  No they don't.
Yes, yes they do.  All Abrahamic religions base their fundamental believe systems on interpretations of the Old Testament.  Every one.

Jews believe in writings of the Old Testament, dead stop.  Christians believe the Old Testament, modified by the New Testament.  Muslims believe the Old Testament, interpretation of the New Testament, and the writings of the Quran.

Therefore, fundamentally, with the basis of all the Abrahamic religions being the same, the Old Testament, they must, therefore, begin their beliefs from a common point - they all say, at the beginning, pretty much the same (poop).


Here is a verse from the Old Testament that could serve you well:

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28 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding. (Proverbs 17:28 KJV)


The New Testament is the part of the Bible written for Christians.

While the Christian Bible includes the Old Testament it is for reference and history.

Christians are not bound by the law of the Old Testament.

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So, my brothers and sisters, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God. (Romans 7:4 NIV)




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Yet indeed I also count all things loss for the excellence of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them as rubbish, that I may gain Christ  (Philippians 3:8 NKJV).

Interestingly enough the Greek word translated as "Rubbish" here is, skybalon.

σκύβαλον (skybalon) means dung; filth; refuse in Biblical Greek.

Therefore, Skylabon may also be translated as, "Poop".

So, Now you have the REAL "Poop" on the subject.
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