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The lunatic coast guard plotted.
The other lunatic in Chicago acted.
Do you see the difference?
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Didn't someone from the left plot a similar crime a few years ago? Maybe at a softball game?
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Didn't someone from the left plot a similar crime a few years ago? Maybe at a softball game?
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« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2019, 06:18:26 PM » |
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You are correct.
The lunatic coast guard plotted.
The other lunatic in Chicago acted.
Do you see the difference?
Come on, don't be shy tell us in plain English what you are so coyly hinting at.
I'm not shy or being coy, just asking a simple question. Cripes you guy's can't take anything that isn't hard right thinking. Didn't mean to offend your sensitive feelings. Anyone doing this sort of crap need to be held accountable, right wing or left wing. John |
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« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2019, 06:37:21 PM » |
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What bullshit! I tried to watch the link posted but lasted less than a minute. I didn't get to the coast guard "terroist". The term is certainly applied where it doesn't belong. I can't believe anyone would be that stupid to present that "reporter's" video as fact.
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Well I guess if the only source of news some people seem to rely on is Fox, then I guess I see how you think. As for who is stupid, we shall see when the Mueller report comes out if the AG will release it. I doubt if any of you would believe it anyway. I'm sorry that we have different opinions on this, and I am sorry it offends you. It is just a discussion. I guess I need to put on my flame proof suit now.
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Well I guess if the only source of news some people seem to rely on is Fox, then I guess I see how you think. As for who is stupid, we shall see when the Mueller report comes out if the AG will release it. I doubt if any of you would believe it anyway. I'm sorry that we have different opinions on this, and I am sorry it offends you. It is just a discussion. I guess I need to put on my flame proof suit now.
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Hang onto that Mueller star as long as you can. Your camp has been banging out the same tune for over 2 years now. I’ll accept the stupid handle if Muellers report says Trump colluded with the Russians. What can we call you when it is determined that Trump did not? Most people I know that watch Fox think for themselves. Not sure how people that watch Don Lemon, Robin Roberts, Chuck Todd and there type. My Deceased FIL believed if Dan Rather said it, that was gospel. It amazes me that when a person disagrees with your thinking it must be because of our news source and that we’re just I’ll informed. If the actions of the national news media over the last 3 years hasn’t shocked and amazed you, your head must be stuck in the sand way past your ears. |
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This is a left wing hatchet job (and a very typical all-conservatives-are-racist rant). This Coast Guard Lt is military and subject to UCMJ Court Martial (though civilians may now have him, the military could get him for prosecution) (the Federal rules and Military rules are functionally equivalent). All military courts martial derive from Executive power under Art II US CONST (stopping at the commander in chief), and not Art III US CONST Judicial power, and Courts of the US. All military commanders (including the president) are specifically proscribed from exerting any form of command influence over military criminal trials (courts martial). UCMJ Article 37(a). For the POTUS (or any other military commander), unlawful command influence means, among other things, going on TV/twitter/radio or anywhere else pubic and making comments which could in any way be taken to mean he believes an accused guilty, or that he wants his head, or that he expects his subordinate commanders to ensure a conviction, or that military jurors at the accused's trial should find him guilty. He simply may make no public (or private) statement which could be taken by anyone to influence the outcome of any court martial (criminal trial). Every military officer's commission in his branch of service derives from presidential power. All members (jurors) on a military court martial of an officer will be fellow officers. Serious violations can result in an accused being set free from all charges. Presidents have screwed this up before. Once the issue of unlawful command influence is raised, the Government must prove beyond a reasonable doubt: (1) that the predicate facts do not exist; or (2) that the facts do not constitute unlawful command influence; or (3) that the unlawful command influence will not prejudice the proceedings or did not affect the findings and sentence. United States v. Biagase, 50 M.J. 143 (C.A.A.F. 1999)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unlawful_command_influencehttp://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/ucmj.htm#837.%20ART.%2037.%20UNLAWFULLY%20INFLUENCING%20ACTION%20OF%20COURTAll our president can say about this case (without screwing up) is that it will be handled by the appropriate authorities according to the applicable laws. One wonders if the ranter in the video is simply trying to draw the president into exerting command influence. Then she could scream about that. |
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This is such bs that its amazing no wonder you have the view you have. Lets look at a few bullet points from the video along with who made it.
This is the maker of the video,
Welcome to the home of progressives. Rebel HQ is your central hub for progressive leaders, movements, and news.
The girl is way bias and way angry and she upsets me just to watch with the vitriol and intent of her talk in the video.
The crisis:
The number of people killed by rt wing terrorism
The label and dramatics,
Far more Americans died from right-wing terrorism
HOW MANY (15) in 2018.
15, really, I mean really? This is what the vitriol is about? Not to mention the label that is misleading since anyone who loves their country can fall under this label.
Right wing terrorists,
A LABEL that is defined by WHO and lets see whats in this label?
The study defines “right-wing extremism” as “violence in support of the belief that personal and/or national way of life is under attack and is either already lost or that the threat is imminent,” including anti-globalism, white supremacy, nationalism, suspicion of the government, and beliefs in conspiracies.
So this is the definition, really come on really I have never heard this described as terrorism before. I know many that would fit this profile and quite frankly if the gun grab that the left is trying to perpetrate on the citizens of the US that are God fearing, fun loving country supporting, law abiding citizens happens we may yet watch a civil war.
defined and statistics by anti defamation league center on extremism
So there have never been nut jobs looking to take out the president that secret service arrested? OR how about down through history that have taken out JFK, an assassination attempt on Regan, not to mention I see no where that the violence like the bombs found in marathon were addressed even though they may not have been that year. Or the fact that Antifa and many more lefties have perpetrated acts of violence and property destruction on monuments, students, or anyone who wears a MAGA hat. Where is all the outrage from you about that?
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1000 rounds of ammo
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There are many who have much more than this and have a dislike for the people that were on his hit list. So does that make them terrorists? By the definition that your organization goes by then, yes. I dont think you understand or will acknowledge the fact that Antifa has much more information on all the conservative politicians and news anchors and actually went to their houses and knew enough about them to actually perform reconnaissance and attacks on them in order to go to the restaurants and places they go to harass them. That alone is a security risk and means that all the information research on them is way much more than this guy has.
That is one kind of terrorism but no mention is made about this.
The words: every extremist killing in 2018 had a link to rt wing extremism
Its a Label, thats it, a label, lets ridicule them like deplorables and see if we can get them to accept it.
Do you have any idea how many incidents they are talking about in TOTAL from 1993 to 2017 ready for this, ALL ACTS OF TERROR, READY, REALLY READY
150
by any and all forms of so called rt wing terrorism
and NO BODY COUNT so the ACT OR THOUGHT or INTENT has the same force as if you went a killed someone and NO MENTION OF 911 or any act that started the war on terror or the reason we now have TSA security at airports and so much more.
This is such a bs, name grabbing, false flag label regardless of the incident. A label is trying to pinned on those who would law abiding citizen that fight for their country by someone who may or may not be a nut job.
I am totally amazed that you guys are even thinking of buying this nonsense and what TOTAL BS it is.
I have never seen a distortion of events like this turned into propaganda that someone actually believes. My sincere condolences for the OP since the idea to mention or glorify one person who may or may not be a nut job since the facts seemed to apply to many.
WE are in terrible trouble if we will start to believe the BS and even consider the acceptance of a label that this is trying to propagate. Have we really lost is so much to even give the OP the idea that this is maybe even anything more than a isolated incident that was picked up by left leaning organizations and made into a propaganda attempt to label the right.
This stinks worse than the pile my dog did this morning.
IF the right rises up and has to take by force what is awarded us in the Constitution do you see how it will be thought of? Do you see the labels, shaming, bring it to the fore front, then pin it on everyone who has a back bone for this country and loves the constitution, this is an attack on conservatives. On traditional values, ideas, the founding of this country and what we as US citizens believe, veiled as a Trojan horse.
If you follow the Constitution today or want a constitutional form of government or love your country, or see the government as corrupt or see any government organization as corrupt then
YOU ARE A RIGHT WING TERRORIST.
The Founders of this Country and the ones who fought died and supported this country could fall under this label. The left kills by labels,shaming,ridicule,making you doubt your own righteousness and is the thought police. This physiological killing of the patriotism many feel for this country is the leading cause of people not talking. Look at our schools and think this is what they are being taught. This is who is teaching them and weep for the lack of caring for the truth and the building blocks of this country.
When you say Merry Christmas to a Jew you are a terrorist. That is the ridiculous nature of this post, this story and its much more insidious in the undertones and shaming to get many to accept something that is totally wrong, a LABEL.
So just lay down your rights and allow the thought police to tell you whats right and wrong and use anyone and everyone who has an axe to grind to compare them with normal country loving citizens.
Muslim extremists is what a possible crazy is being compared to and in fact we are being told Muslim extremists have not done acts of terror against the US and we are not at war with ISIS it was all Rt wing terrorists.
Not every act of violence is an act of terror, nor a group, nor a trend, nor anything but what it is a possible crazy. Not only that the goverment is in propaganda also in claiming an arrest or criminal is the worst crime since jack the ripper.
IF the OP believes this should be addressed by Trump they please explain why Trump should just not start doing the news about every event that happens?
Do you see it, really, do you see it, the way the left demonizes, you,, the conservative and you even think there is any merit in it. Its NOT a news story, its not fact, its a propaganda piece plain and simple.
I hope Trump never acknowledges this incident regardless of the act and the reason is it may justify and give support and acceptance of the term Rt wing terrorist, would make mention of an event that if it is terror would be exactly what the person wants and give credence to so many negative, demeaning names and ideas that nothing positive could come out of mentioning it.
The driving force behind the previous admins is coming to a close and they are terrified and have to find any avenue to make patriotism a bad thing. The weak of mind will accept it the true intelligent thinkers will be the ones who see it or are the ones propagating it.
Do not fall for the, thought is the same as the act mentality. If you think you are a woman then you are a woman. You may feel like a woman or you may act like a woman, hell you may even feel like a woman but fact and biology says your a man. A persons thoughts and ideas are taken as a fact over a physical biological fact. We are told to act on a thought not a fact and blur the lines of truth till we forget the facts and accept the thoughts as truth. So what ever your being fed comes across as fact. Any lie is truth if its in the thought of the individual and maybe a government individual.
If they keep you guessing they keep you ineffective and open to their discourse.
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Well I guess if the only source of news some people seem to rely on is Fox, then I guess I see how you think. As for who is stupid, we shall see when the Mueller report comes out if the AG will release it. I doubt if any of you would believe it anyway. I'm sorry that we have different opinions on this, and I am sorry it offends you. It is just a discussion. I guess I need to put on my flame proof suit now. John [/quote You are correct.
The lunatic coast guard plotted.
The other lunatic in Chicago acted.
Do you see the difference?
Come on, don't be shy tell us in plain English what you are so coyly hinting at.
I'm not shy or being coy, just asking a simple question. Cripes you guy's can't take anything that isn't hard right thinking. Didn't mean to offend your sensitive feelings. Anyone doing this sort of crap need to be held accountable, right wing or left wing. John Just speaking for myself but, I don't watch Fox News. I tend to watch the big three networks and yet still see the bias these networks present in their broadcasts. Have seen the reports about the Coast Guard Lt. Just like the Smollette case, innocent until proven guilty. Waiting to see what Mueller has to show us. Have you noticed how there is rarely anything profiled in the news complimentary to President Trump. Even pictures of him are some very uncomplimentary pics. Go back and compare all of this to how President Obama was presented. The networks are attempting to mold our thoughts, opinions and attitudes as a country, the results is that many are being brain washed. As much as I didn't like Obama, I recognize he wasn't all bad. When was the last time you saw something presented by the bias'd networks that showed Trump in a good light? Rams  |
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Well I guess if the only source of news some people seem to rely on is Fox, then I guess I see how you think. As for who is stupid, we shall see when the Mueller report comes out if the AG will release it. I doubt if any of you would believe it anyway. I'm sorry that we have different opinions on this, and I am sorry it offends you. It is just a discussion. I guess I need to put on my flame proof suit now.
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Hang onto that Mueller star as long as you can. Your camp has been banging out the same tune for over 2 years now. I’ll accept the stupid handle if Muellers report says Trump colluded with the Russians. What can we call you when it is determined that Trump did not? Most people I know that watch Fox think for themselves. Not sure how people that watch Don Lemon, Robin Roberts, Chuck Todd and there type. My Deceased FIL believed if Dan Rather said it, that was gospel. It amazes me that when a person disagrees with your thinking it must be because of our news source and that we’re just I’ll informed. If the actions of the national news media over the last 3 years hasn’t shocked and amazed you, your head must be stuck in the sand way past your ears. His head isn't in the sand if you catch my drift. |
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« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2019, 04:20:31 AM » |
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What bullshit! I tried to watch the link posted but lasted less than a minute. I didn't get to the coast guard "terroist". The term is certainly applied where it doesn't belong. I can't believe anyone would be that stupid to present that "reporter's" video as fact.
Well, I watched the whole thing and can only say that chick is a real flake, she has a very annoying style of presentation. As far as the "Coast Guard Terrorist", Correct me if I'm wrong Serk, but in Texas he would be considered a brother who is down on his luck, running a little low on ammo and can't afford to round out is gun collection. The "hit list" she quoted sounded like a good starting point to me, but again, given his probable preoccupation with his inadequate arms cache, he probably hasn't had time to really think things out. Seriously, I don't know the details behind this guy, but I don't condone terrorism, but I know several people that have more arms and ammo on hand than was shown in her video, that is their right under the 2nd to own whatever is legal and they can afford. It doesn't make them a terrorist. I would have to do a lot research on this to really have an informed opinion. |
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« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2019, 04:26:07 AM » |
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You are correct.
The lunatic coast guard plotted.
The other lunatic in Chicago acted.
Do you see the difference?
Come on, don't be shy tell us in plain English what you are so coyly hinting at.
I'm not shy or being coy, just asking a simple question. Cripes you guy's can't take anything that isn't hard right thinking. Didn't mean to offend your sensitive feelings. Anyone doing this sort of crap need to be held accountable, right wing or left wing. John John, You might have noticed that many of the members here have been a little out of sorts lately. Very irritable, quick to snap, fast with the whatabouts, lots of mentions of Hillary, etc. You see, apparently Mueller is allegedly getting close to wrapping up his investigation, and I wager there's a fair amount of anxiety amongst the membership. There's been lots of smoke, there just might be some fire. However, I shouldn't be too concerned. That's because trump has successfully nominated a hand-picked brand new Attorney General, William Barr, who during his nomination hearings, would not commit to releasing the full Mueller report, claiming rights of privacy concerns. And that's to Congress, never mind the public! When asked about Barr releasing the report, trump seemed very at ease and said it was up to the AG... https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/20/trump-says-release-of-mueller-report-will-be-up-to-attorney-general-barr.htmlMaybe Barr will surprise everyone and release it in it's entirety, as he should. Allegedly he and Mueller are pretty tight from years past, so who knows? But the fact that Barr intimates that the report could be released as soon as next week, within a week after being confirmed...? We shall see what we shall see. |
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What bullshit! I tried to watch the link posted but lasted less than a minute. I didn't get to the coast guard "terroist". The term is certainly applied where it doesn't belong. I can't believe anyone would be that stupid to present that "reporter's" video as fact.
Well, I watched the whole thing and can only say that chick is a real flake, she has a very annoying style of presentation. As far as the "Coast Guard Terrorist", Correct me if I'm wrong Serk, but in Texas he would be considered a brother who is down on his luck, running a little low on ammo and can't afford to round out is gun collection. The "hit list" she quoted sounded like a good starting point to me, but again, given his probable preoccupation with his inadequate arms cache, he probably hasn't had time to really think things out. Seriously, I don't know the details behind this guy, but I don't condone terrorism, but I know several people that have more arms and ammo on hand than was shown in her video, that is their right under the 2nd to own whatever is legal and they can afford. It doesn't make them a terrorist. I would have to do a lot research on this to really have an informed opinion. It doesn't take much research to understand that owning the weapons is not the reason for his arrest. Your humor is usually pretty entertaining. It fell flat in the area of finding his hit list of targets "a good starting point". I think you have lost a little with your retirement. Does work make one funnier ? |
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This is a left wing hatchet job (and a very typical all-conservatives-are-racist rant). This Coast Guard Lt is military and subject to UCMJ Court Martial (though civilians may now have him, the military could get him for prosecution) (the Federal rules and Military rules are functionally equivalent). All military courts martial derive from Executive power under Art II US CONST (stopping at the commander in chief), and not Art III US CONST Judicial power, and Courts of the US. All military commanders (including the president) are specifically proscribed from exerting any form of command influence over military criminal trials (courts martial). UCMJ Article 37(a). For the POTUS (or any other military commander), unlawful command influence means, among other things, going on TV/twitter/radio or anywhere else pubic and making comments which could in any way be taken to mean he believes an accused guilty, or that he wants his head, or that he expects his subordinate commanders to ensure a conviction, or that military jurors at the accused's trial should find him guilty. He simply may make no public (or private) statement which could be taken by anyone to influence the outcome of any court martial (criminal trial). Every military officer's commission in his branch of service derives from presidential power. All members (jurors) on a military court martial of an officer will be fellow officers. Serious violations can result in an accused being set free from all charges. Presidents have screwed this up before. Once the issue of unlawful command influence is raised, the Government must prove beyond a reasonable doubt: (1) that the predicate facts do not exist; or (2) that the facts do not constitute unlawful command influence; or (3) that the unlawful command influence will not prejudice the proceedings or did not affect the findings and sentence. United States v. Biagase, 50 M.J. 143 (C.A.A.F. 1999)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unlawful_command_influencehttp://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/ucmj.htm#837.%20ART.%2037.%20UNLAWFULLY%20INFLUENCING%20ACTION%20OF%20COURTAll our president can say about this case (without screwing up) is that it will be handled by the appropriate authorities according to the applicable laws. One wonders if the ranter in the video is simply trying to draw the president into exerting command influence. Then she could scream about that. Yeah, you are correct. Trump is just being judicious with his Twitter. He would never tweet about inflammatory stuff. I find it interesting that for days you guys have gone on and on about some dipshit gay actor and his bogus mugging. But the only reference about this serious story is an attack on the poster for bringing it up. |
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Didn't someone from the left plot a similar crime a few years ago? Maybe at a softball game?
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I find it interesting that for days you guys have gone on and on about some dipshit gay actor and his bogus mugging. But the only reference about this serious story is an attack on the poster for bringing it up.
Obviously the alleged crimes themselves are a world apart in these two cases, but in the "dipshit gay actor" case, WE were framed for it. It was yet another case of a fake "hate crime" trying to paint all on the right as racist homophobic thugs that go around beating up people different from us, so yeah, when the world instantly believes the most crazy obviously made up BS story just because of simple confirmation bias, "we" tend to get a bit worked up about it. |
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What is total BS is comparing right wing conservatives (even extremists) as the left calls us to Islamic terrorists. She is also wrong about who is killing whom. Whackos from the left have done their fair share of shootings.
According to many left wing fanatics, I am a domestic terrorist (and so are some of you) because of membership in the NRA, being a veteran and belonging to a motorcycle club. Being a Christian doesn't help either. And this hack wants people to think we are as dangerous to America as radical Islam. That's what is BS
President Trump is not like Obama. Obama would get on TV and make judgment calls and attack and demonize those he perceived to be not his pet flavor prematurely only to have to recant and apologize when he was wrong.
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What is total BS is comparing right wing conservatives (even extremists) as the left calls us to Islamic terrorists. She is also wrong about who is killing whom. Whackos from the left have done their fair share of shootings.
According to many left wing fanatics, I am a domestic terrorist (and so are some of you) because of membership in the NRA, being a veteran and belonging to a motorcycle club. Being a Christian doesn't help either. And this hack wants people to think we are as dangerous to America as radical Islam. That's what is BS
President Trump is not like Obama. Obama would get on TV and make judgment calls and attack and demonize those he perceived to be not his pet flavor prematurely only to have to recant and apologize when he was wrong.
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I find it interesting that for days you guys have gone on and on about some dipshit gay actor and his bogus mugging. But the only reference about this serious story is an attack on the poster for bringing it up.
Obviously the alleged crimes themselves are a world apart in these two cases, but in the "dipshit gay actor" case, WE were framed for it. It was yet another case of a fake "hate crime" trying to paint all on the right as racist homophobic thugs that go around beating up people different from us, so yeah, when the world instantly believes the most crazy obviously made up BS story just because of simple confirmation bias, "we" tend to get a bit worked up about it. Granted the "dipshit" tried to paint all "MAGA" supporters as racist homophobes. Dipshits say stupid crap all the time, it's who they are. If it is so personal to people that a story rises to this level, I think maybe there are some underlying issues that need to be addressed in their life. You were framed for nothing. You had an actor try to lump you in a category of such. It was obvious from the beginning it was a bogus story, who would walk home after such an attack and leave the noose around his neck ? Once a person got away from their attackers they would remove the rope around their neck. Some on the right seem to be willing to be victims very easily these days. |
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« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2019, 06:01:45 AM » |
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What bullshit! I tried to watch the link posted but lasted less than a minute. I didn't get to the coast guard "terroist". The term is certainly applied where it doesn't belong. I can't believe anyone would be that stupid to present that "reporter's" video as fact.
Well, I watched the whole thing and can only say that chick is a real flake, she has a very annoying style of presentation. As far as the "Coast Guard Terrorist", Correct me if I'm wrong Serk, but in Texas he would be considered a brother who is down on his luck, running a little low on ammo and can't afford to round out is gun collection. The "hit list" she quoted sounded like a good starting point to me, but again, given his probable preoccupation with his inadequate arms cache, he probably hasn't had time to really think things out. Seriously, I don't know the details behind this guy, but I don't condone terrorism, but I know several people that have more arms and ammo on hand than was shown in her video, that is their right under the 2nd to own whatever is legal and they can afford. It doesn't make them a terrorist. I would have to do a lot research on this to really have an informed opinion. It doesn't take much research to understand that owning the weapons is not the reason for his arrest. Your humor is usually pretty entertaining. It fell flat in the area of finding his hit list of targets "a good starting point". I think you have lost a little with your retirement. Does work make one funnier ? FYI, I'm back at work as of 12/1/18, so as usual your hypothesis is all wrong. As far as humor goes, that was a variation of the old lawyer joke(Jess prolly get's it) of what do you call 1000 lawyers at the bottom of the sea? ANS: A good start! Some people's senses of humor are more developed than their senses of offense or outrage. This seems to be especially true of those leaning to the left. My entire post was basically an attempt at humor (pretty good one I thought, but that is JMHO), you are free, as we still somewhat are in this country, to disagree and take offense if that is your usual modus operandi, I really don't care. Now THAT was probably what was most affected by my retirement and subsequent return to work, my ability to give a snuggle. I have no snuggles left to give, and my field where I grow my snuggles is barren. |
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I find it interesting that for days you guys have gone on and on about some dipshit gay actor and his bogus mugging. But the only reference about this serious story is an attack on the poster for bringing it up.
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I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you apparently don’t see why many are going on and on about this dipshit gay actor so let me try to explain. We might not even know about Smollett if not for the national media hype and keeping it front page news. But the real reason for my anger is not the crime he committed but that his attemp to paint Trump supporters as racists and homophobes and really domestic terrorists. I take it personal, as apparently did the Chief of Police in Chicago among others.
The person in the other case is being prosecuted and somehow I knew nothing about it until now. Any connection between his case and this one escapes me.
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« Reply #24 on: February 22, 2019, 06:05:53 AM » |
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I find it interesting that for days you guys have gone on and on about some dipshit gay actor and his bogus mugging. But the only reference about this serious story is an attack on the poster for bringing it up.
Obviously the alleged crimes themselves are a world apart in these two cases, but in the "dipshit gay actor" case, WE were framed for it. It was yet another case of a fake "hate crime" trying to paint all on the right as racist homophobic thugs that go around beating up people different from us, so yeah, when the world instantly believes the most crazy obviously made up BS story just because of simple confirmation bias, "we" tend to get a bit worked up about it. Granted the "dipshit" tried to paint all "MAGA" supporters as racist homophobes. Dipshits say stupid poop all the time, it's who they are. If it is so personal to people that a story rises to this level, I think maybe there are some underlying issues that need to be addressed in their life. You were framed for nothing. You had an actor try to lump you in a category of such. It was obvious from the beginning it was a bogus story, who would walk home after such an attack and leave the noose around his neck ? Once a person got away from their attackers they would remove the rope around their neck. Some on the right seem to be willing to be victims very easily these days. I There are underlying issues alright you and some media talking heads are at the top of that list. |
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« Reply #25 on: February 22, 2019, 06:10:39 AM » |
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What is total BS is comparing right wing conservatives (even extremists) as the left calls us to Islamic terrorists. She is also wrong about who is killing whom. Whackos from the left have done their fair share of shootings.
According to many left wing fanatics, I am a domestic terrorist (and so are some of you) because of membership in the NRA, being a veteran and belonging to a motorcycle club. Being a Christian doesn't help either. And this hack wants people to think we are as dangerous to America as radical Islam. That's what is BS
President Trump is not like Obama. Obama would get on TV and make judgment calls and attack and demonize those he perceived to be not his pet flavor prematurely only to have to recant and apologize when he was wrong.
I'm trying to recall Obama doing that. Could you remind me what he had to apologize for? Not saying it didn't happen, I just can't come up with anything like you describe. One time was when a black professor was arrested and Obama said almost instantly, " I don't know the facts but the cops were stupid and over acted " or something like that. When what really happened was legal and proper, it was just white cops and a black person being " harassed" Another time was during the riots after that criminal Michael Brown was killed. Obama went on the band wagon to make the point, it didn't matter he committed multiple crimes, it only mattered he was black and the cop was white. After the evidence was examined the cop did nothing wrong but his life and career was ruined in part because of Obama and his crooked attorney general. |
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« Reply #26 on: February 22, 2019, 06:10:51 AM » |
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What bullshit! I tried to watch the link posted but lasted less than a minute. I didn't get to the coast guard "terroist". The term is certainly applied where it doesn't belong. I can't believe anyone would be that stupid to present that "reporter's" video as fact.
Well, I watched the whole thing and can only say that chick is a real flake, she has a very annoying style of presentation. As far as the "Coast Guard Terrorist", Correct me if I'm wrong Serk, but in Texas he would be considered a brother who is down on his luck, running a little low on ammo and can't afford to round out is gun collection. The "hit list" she quoted sounded like a good starting point to me, but again, given his probable preoccupation with his inadequate arms cache, he probably hasn't had time to really think things out. Seriously, I don't know the details behind this guy, but I don't condone terrorism, but I know several people that have more arms and ammo on hand than was shown in her video, that is their right under the 2nd to own whatever is legal and they can afford. It doesn't make them a terrorist. I would have to do a lot research on this to really have an informed opinion. It doesn't take much research to understand that owning the weapons is not the reason for his arrest. Your humor is usually pretty entertaining. It fell flat in the area of finding his hit list of targets "a good starting point". I think you have lost a little with your retirement. Does work make one funnier ? FYI, I'm back at work as of 12/1/18, so as usual your hypothesis is all wrong. As far as humor goes, that was a variation of the old lawyer joke(Jess prolly get's it) of what do you call 1000 lawyers at the bottom of the sea? ANS: A good start! Some people's senses of humor are more developed than their senses of offense or outrage. This seems to be especially true of those leaning to the left. My entire post was basically an attempt at humor (pretty good one I thought, but that is JMHO), you are free, as we still somewhat are in this country, to disagree and take offense if that is your usual modus operandi, I really don't care. Now THAT was probably what was most affected by my retirement and subsequent return to work, my ability to give a snuggle. I have no snuggles left to give, and my field where I grow my snuggles is barren. First of all, I'm sorry to hear you are back at work. I assumed you had been looking forward to retirement for a while. I was not offended. Just didn't think the attempt at humor lived up to your usual high bar. I've found it to be quite good over the years, despite our different political views. NOW GET BACK TO WORK ! (attempt at humor) |
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You are correct.
The lunatic coast guard plotted.
The other lunatic in Chicago acted.
Do you see the difference?
Come on, don't be shy tell us in plain English what you are so coyly hinting at.
I'm not shy or being coy, just asking a simple question. Cripes you guy's can't take anything that isn't hard right thinking. Didn't mean to offend your sensitive feelings. Anyone doing this sort of crap need to be held accountable, right wing or left wing. John I answered your question. Suddenly I'm "youse guys". You didn't answer my questions - no surprise there as that seems to be the modus operandi for a few on this forum. And as a few on this forum have done previously you too create a personae for me from a few typed sentences on a forum. Bye. |
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« Reply #30 on: February 22, 2019, 07:00:46 AM » |
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So unfortunate there is "yet" to be a LIKE BUTTON implemented on this forum, one of the few forums out there which doesn't have that function. I’ve never used a “like button”, but I’ve used this many times  (some unlike it though) |
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So unfortunate there is "yet" to be a LIKE BUTTON implemented on this forum, one of the few forums out there which doesn't have that function. If I liked what you posted (I do not) I could just post Like or like some of us do.....+1 Facebook and others make way too much to do about liking stuff. It's to the point if you don't like it enough someone is mad at you and all you did was nothing |
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It's a hair early, no? Trump doesn't drink, so he's possibly trying to avoid a "Beer Summit". I haven't commented on it because it just hit the news and I don't know the details. So far I've only read that the guy may be a racist jerk, planning on doing harm. Seemed silly to me to say, "wow, that would be wrong" with no other details. |
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« Reply #33 on: February 22, 2019, 07:10:03 AM » |
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It's a hair early, no? Trump doesn't drink, so he's possibly trying to avoid a "Beer Summit". I haven't commented on it because it just hit the news and I don't know the details. So far I've only read that the guy may be a racist jerk, planning on doing harm. Seemed silly to me to say, "wow, that would be wrong" with no other details. What some drama Queens fail to understand is there are strategies to how to respond to people like this. Many of them want their 15 minutes of Fame. Sometimes it's best to show they got caught so others think twice but any more could be unwanted drama. Less is more lots of times |
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« Reply #34 on: February 22, 2019, 07:37:51 AM » |
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What bullshit! I tried to watch the link posted but lasted less than a minute. I didn't get to the coast guard "terroist". The term is certainly applied where it doesn't belong. I can't believe anyone would be that stupid to present that "reporter's" video as fact.
Well, I watched the whole thing and can only say that chick is a real flake, she has a very annoying style of presentation. As far as the "Coast Guard Terrorist", Correct me if I'm wrong Serk, but in Texas he would be considered a brother who is down on his luck, running a little low on ammo and can't afford to round out is gun collection. The "hit list" she quoted sounded like a good starting point to me, but again, given his probable preoccupation with his inadequate arms cache, he probably hasn't had time to really think things out. Seriously, I don't know the details behind this guy, but I don't condone terrorism, but I know several people that have more arms and ammo on hand than was shown in her video, that is their right under the 2nd to own whatever is legal and they can afford. It doesn't make them a terrorist. I would have to do a lot research on this to really have an informed opinion. It doesn't take much research to understand that owning the weapons is not the reason for his arrest. Your humor is usually pretty entertaining. It fell flat in the area of finding his hit list of targets "a good starting point". I think you have lost a little with your retirement. Does work make one funnier ? FYI, I'm back at work as of 12/1/18, so as usual your hypothesis is all wrong. As far as humor goes, that was a variation of the old lawyer joke(Jess prolly get's it) of what do you call 1000 lawyers at the bottom of the sea? ANS: A good start! Some people's senses of humor are more developed than their senses of offense or outrage. This seems to be especially true of those leaning to the left. My entire post was basically an attempt at humor (pretty good one I thought, but that is JMHO), you are free, as we still somewhat are in this country, to disagree and take offense if that is your usual modus operandi, I really don't care. Now THAT was probably what was most affected by my retirement and subsequent return to work, my ability to give a snuggle. I have no snuggles left to give, and my field where I grow my snuggles is barren. First of all, I'm sorry to hear you are back at work. I assumed you had been looking forward to retirement for a while. I was not offended. Just didn't think the attempt at humor lived up to your usual high bar. I've found it to be quite good over the years, despite our different political views. NOW GET BACK TO WORK ! (attempt at humor)Not bad, keep working on it. |
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« Reply #35 on: February 22, 2019, 08:20:02 AM » |
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What bullshit! I tried to watch the link posted but lasted less than a minute. I didn't get to the coast guard "terroist". The term is certainly applied where it doesn't belong. I can't believe anyone would be that stupid to present that "reporter's" video as fact.
Well, I watched the whole thing and can only say that chick is a real flake, she has a very annoying style of presentation. As far as the "Coast Guard Terrorist", Correct me if I'm wrong Serk, but in Texas he would be considered a brother who is down on his luck, running a little low on ammo and can't afford to round out is gun collection. The "hit list" she quoted sounded like a good starting point to me, but again, given his probable preoccupation with his inadequate arms cache, he probably hasn't had time to really think things out. Seriously, I don't know the details behind this guy, but I don't condone terrorism, but I know several people that have more arms and ammo on hand than was shown in her video, that is their right under the 2nd to own whatever is legal and they can afford. It doesn't make them a terrorist. I would have to do a lot research on this to really have an informed opinion. It doesn't take much research to understand that owning the weapons is not the reason for his arrest. Your humor is usually pretty entertaining. It fell flat in the area of finding his hit list of targets "a good starting point". I think you have lost a little with your retirement. Does work make one funnier ? FYI, I'm back at work as of 12/1/18, so as usual your hypothesis is all wrong. As far as humor goes, that was a variation of the old lawyer joke(Jess prolly get's it) of what do you call 1000 lawyers at the bottom of the sea? ANS: A good start! Some people's senses of humor are more developed than their senses of offense or outrage. This seems to be especially true of those leaning to the left. My entire post was basically an attempt at humor (pretty good one I thought, but that is JMHO), you are free, as we still somewhat are in this country, to disagree and take offense if that is your usual modus operandi, I really don't care. Now THAT was probably what was most affected by my retirement and subsequent return to work, my ability to give a snuggle. I have no snuggles left to give, and my field where I grow my snuggles is barren. First of all, I'm sorry to hear you are back at work. I assumed you had been looking forward to retirement for a while. I was not offended. Just didn't think the attempt at humor lived up to your usual high bar. I've found it to be quite good over the years, despite our different political views. NOW GET BACK TO WORK ! (attempt at humor)Not bad, keep working on it. My hope is one year till retirement, then I will be able to really be funny.  |
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« Reply #36 on: February 22, 2019, 08:45:35 AM » |
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What bullshit! I tried to watch the link posted but lasted less than a minute. I didn't get to the coast guard "terroist". The term is certainly applied where it doesn't belong. I can't believe anyone would be that stupid to present that "reporter's" video as fact.
Well, I watched the whole thing and can only say that chick is a real flake, she has a very annoying style of presentation. As far as the "Coast Guard Terrorist", Correct me if I'm wrong Serk, but in Texas he would be considered a brother who is down on his luck, running a little low on ammo and can't afford to round out is gun collection. The "hit list" she quoted sounded like a good starting point to me, but again, given his probable preoccupation with his inadequate arms cache, he probably hasn't had time to really think things out. Seriously, I don't know the details behind this guy, but I don't condone terrorism, but I know several people that have more arms and ammo on hand than was shown in her video, that is their right under the 2nd to own whatever is legal and they can afford. It doesn't make them a terrorist. I would have to do a lot research on this to really have an informed opinion. It doesn't take much research to understand that owning the weapons is not the reason for his arrest. Your humor is usually pretty entertaining. It fell flat in the area of finding his hit list of targets "a good starting point". I think you have lost a little with your retirement. Does work make one funnier ? FYI, I'm back at work as of 12/1/18, so as usual your hypothesis is all wrong. As far as humor goes, that was a variation of the old lawyer joke(Jess prolly get's it) of what do you call 1000 lawyers at the bottom of the sea? ANS: A good start! Some people's senses of humor are more developed than their senses of offense or outrage. This seems to be especially true of those leaning to the left. My entire post was basically an attempt at humor (pretty good one I thought, but that is JMHO), you are free, as we still somewhat are in this country, to disagree and take offense if that is your usual modus operandi, I really don't care. Now THAT was probably what was most affected by my retirement and subsequent return to work, my ability to give a snuggle. I have no snuggles left to give, and my field where I grow my snuggles is barren. First of all, I'm sorry to hear you are back at work. I assumed you had been looking forward to retirement for a while. I was not offended. Just didn't think the attempt at humor lived up to your usual high bar. I've found it to be quite good over the years, despite our different political views. NOW GET BACK TO WORK ! (attempt at humor)Not bad, keep working on it. My hope is one year till retirement, then I will be able to really be funny. That would be nice (you being funny), but that would violate your premise that retirement makes one less funny. In your case, I don't know if I could survive that. |
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What bullshit! I tried to watch the link posted but lasted less than a minute. I didn't get to the coast guard "terroist". The term is certainly applied where it doesn't belong. I can't believe anyone would be that stupid to present that "reporter's" video as fact.
Well, I watched the whole thing and can only say that chick is a real flake, she has a very annoying style of presentation. As far as the "Coast Guard Terrorist", Correct me if I'm wrong Serk, but in Texas he would be considered a brother who is down on his luck, running a little low on ammo and can't afford to round out is gun collection. The "hit list" she quoted sounded like a good starting point to me, but again, given his probable preoccupation with his inadequate arms cache, he probably hasn't had time to really think things out. Seriously, I don't know the details behind this guy, but I don't condone terrorism, but I know several people that have more arms and ammo on hand than was shown in her video, that is their right under the 2nd to own whatever is legal and they can afford. It doesn't make them a terrorist. I would have to do a lot research on this to really have an informed opinion. It doesn't take much research to understand that owning the weapons is not the reason for his arrest. Your humor is usually pretty entertaining. It fell flat in the area of finding his hit list of targets "a good starting point". I think you have lost a little with your retirement. Does work make one funnier ? FYI, I'm back at work as of 12/1/18, so as usual your hypothesis is all wrong. As far as humor goes, that was a variation of the old lawyer joke(Jess prolly get's it) of what do you call 1000 lawyers at the bottom of the sea? ANS: A good start! Some people's senses of humor are more developed than their senses of offense or outrage. This seems to be especially true of those leaning to the left. My entire post was basically an attempt at humor (pretty good one I thought, but that is JMHO), you are free, as we still somewhat are in this country, to disagree and take offense if that is your usual modus operandi, I really don't care. Now THAT was probably what was most affected by my retirement and subsequent return to work, my ability to give a snuggle. I have no snuggles left to give, and my field where I grow my snuggles is barren. |
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You're wrong. The president said it was a very sad thing. If the link you posted is an example of what you listen to, its no surprise that you haven't heard anything that could be construed as positive about anything the president said or did. -RP |
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