seems there is a double standard

[Wizzard]

A bunch of Muslims get killed in a mosque in New Zealand and it makes world news.
120 Christians have been slaughtered in Nigeria since January by Muslim militants and you have hardly heard a word about it.
This pisses me off.  

I know there is another thread on this,, I just had to vent.
All of it is terribly wrong and no one deserves this.

[Serk]

They're all horrible incidents, but IMHO the difference isn't non-Muslim killing Muslims vs. Muslims killing Christians, the difference is violence happening in a place that's not generally violent vs. violence happening in a place that's known for being violent.

Same difference as if you hear of a murder in a small rural safe town it's a big deal, but the daily body count in Chicago isn't mentioned because it's just the norm there.

[Wizzard]

They're all horrible incidents, but IMHO the difference isn't non-Muslim killing Muslims vs. Muslims killing Christians, the difference is violence happening in a place that's not generally violent vs. violence happening in a place that's known for being violent.

Same difference as if you hear of a murder in a small rural safe town it's a bit deal, but the daily body count in Chicago isn't mentioned because it's just the norm there.

That is a good explanation. Makes more sense to me. Thanks for your input

[carolinarider09]

Yes there seems to be a double standard.  I think the aim is to destroy the Judo Christian belief system upon which this nation was founded.  And in so doing, change America from what it is to something different.  

This nation was founded on a belief system not a specific "religious" belief.  There is a "Creator"  and this Creator endowed to us, the people of the world, with rights.  Those rights include "Life", "Liberty", and  the pursuit of happiness. We are still  free today, not as free as yesterday.  Our federal government spends much time on talk but little action.  State and local governments seem to be no better but we, the people, do not follow them as much as we should (I speak for myself on this issue).  

The words in the Declaration of Independence attest to this concept as many of you remember.

"When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.....

[Robert]

Although there are many more attacks against Christians and more severe ones the Christians are not trying to gain political points, leverage and recognition.

As the old adage goes never let a crisis go to waste, or the squeaky wheel gets the oil.

[signart]

Well, it's not as bad when you get hacked to death or burned to death. You know getting slaughtered with an AR or such, much more deader. Gun deaths are senseless and can be eliminated simply by passing some laws in quick order and should be the first thought of politicians when this sort of event takes place.
Hacking & burning, there ought to be stricter laws against that and then they could eliminate that in quick order.
A few of the Christians got away anyhow, and didn't get burned or hacked to death, only got their homes burned to the ground.  ???

[Oss]

of course there is a double or triple standard

These are the human rights per the UN
in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights

    Preamble.
    Article 1: Innate freedom and equality.
    Article 2: Ban on discrimination.
    Article 3: Right to life.
    Article 4: Ban on slavery.
    Article 5: Ban on torture.
    Article 6: Right to recognition as a person before the law.
    Article 7: Equality before the law.

IMHO  The UN has outlived its usefulness in that members can block anything if they are one of 15 on the rotating security council as Russia has done in Ukraine and with Syria.   $$$ as anywhere is the king    Unlike previous POTUS' , President Trump has called out Russia,  Hardly consistent with someone who is alleged (with no proof) to be in their pocket.  


Sadly, the leaders of the two major Islamic sects continue  to encourage lying to infidels and to kill or enslave non believers and it has been that way for over 1200 years.  Not that Christians have not done their share of bloodletting over the same period.......such as the Inquisition and the Crusades.

I look at this picture and I do not forget what was and keep getting angry at the "media" and our government for not taking the threat seriously



Prayers for the victims, those who lost everything and their families

[Robert]

The gunman knew what would happen in that there would be a knee jerk response, maybe this is what he really wanted? Maybe it was done for political and shock value? There is so much more to this story and it will be used for gun control.

CAIR Uses NZ Mosque Shooting To Demand Crackdown On Criticism Of Islam In US

 According to the New York Times, the shooter says he’s using guns in the massacre to stir discord in the U.S. over the Second Amendment. (While gun deaths are extremely rare in New Zealand, there are plenty of guns; in 2017 the country of 4.6 million people had 1.2 million registered firearms.) He also called himself a fascist, remarking, “For once, the person that will be called a fascist, is an actual fascist.”

[¿spoom]

The gunman knew what would happen in that there would be a knee jerk response, maybe this is what he really wanted? Maybe it was done for political and shock value? There is so much more to this story and it will be used for gun control.

CAIR Uses NZ Mosque Shooting To Demand Crackdown On Criticism Of Islam In US

 According to the New York Times, the shooter says he’s using guns in the massacre to stir discord in the U.S. over the Second Amendment. (While gun deaths are extremely rare in New Zealand, there are plenty of guns; in 2017 the country of 4.6 million people had 1.2 million registered firearms.) He also called himself a fascist, remarking, “For once, the person that will be called a fascist, is an actual fascist.”

CAIR is a hate group, and supports a hate group. Like Rahm, they will never let a good tragedy go to waste. Everything about the NZ shootings is beyond wrong, and done by a POS the World will not miss. Hope NZ isn't too civilized for the death penalty. There are different standards, but not too difficult to sort out, or why. Here in the States, we let people get special treatment because of religion. All religions. Then we start arguments over which religion is the "true one" which of course is to decide who SHOULD get special treatment. Milwaukee averages just shy of a killing a day, but they aren't "as bad" because it's usually "just" one or two at a time, and due to anger instead of religion.    

[98valk]

A bunch of Muslims get killed in a mosque in New Zealand and it makes world news.
120 Christians have been slaughtered in Nigeria since January by Muslim militants and you have hardly heard a word about it.
This pisses me off.  

I know there is another thread on this,, I just had to vent.
All of it is terribly wrong and no one deserves this.

90,000 Christians killed in 2018, by muslims. numbers not clear how may of the woman and children were raped and abused before they were killed. Also it is know fact the muslims like to kill and/or rape the family member in front of the other family members and then kill the rest after they are done with the survivors. Or they make them esp the woman and little girls into slaves, usually work and sex.

and Americans voted these people into office because they are democrats.

[Wizzard]

Let me see if I understand this? A shooting happens in another country because of our treatment of Muslims? Somehow we are dragged into this?

[DirtyDan]

Freedom of speech (thought) begins with criticism

Dan

[Moonshot_1]

A bunch of Muslims get killed in a mosque in New Zealand and it makes world news.
120 Christians have been slaughtered in Nigeria since January by Muslim militants and you have hardly heard a word about it.
This pisses me off.  

I know there is another thread on this,, I just had to vent.
All of it is terribly wrong and no one deserves this.

Nah, ain't really a double standard here.

From a global perspective nothing much happens in New Zealand. Pretty much not ever.

Well, something did happen there. A bunch of people got gunned down. For New Zealand, that is an international lead story for sure.

Do we hear about the Christians getting slaughtered in the Middle East? Do we hear about the Muslims getting slaughtered in the Middle East? Maybe on occasion. But shoot, you can probably find stories about the slaughter of Christians and Muslims in the Bible. It's just not news out of the Middle East.

It would probably be more newsworthy if there was no slaughtering of Christians, Jews and Muslims in the Middle East for a week.

Or Chicago.

[Robert]

 Only seven days earlier, Hillary Clinton’s former presidential campaign manager was in New Zealand where he appeared in a T.V. interview conducted by Newshub, as the victim of “The world’s most notorious political hack.” At the end of the interview John Podesta was said to remain in New Zealand to preside over what was described as “A Global Progressives Event.” John Podesta, who left for Australia the day before the “terrorist attack” occured, praised the “superstar” Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern saying to the press that: “She’s made an impression on the world. She’s somebody that people are paying attention to. “Wow! You have our attention, as the cowardly acts of the New Zealand Mosque Massacre demonstrated to the world the biggest failure in the intelligence and security apparatus of the country, or a deliberate attempt to start a clash of civilizations.

The event Podesta was there for was called “The Path to Progress” :


However, in the same interviewJohn Podesta also said that New Zealand is a “big juicy target.”

[phideux]

of course there is a double or triple standard

These are the human rights per the UN
in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights

    Preamble.
    Article 1: Innate freedom and equality.
    Article 2: Ban on discrimination.
    Article 3: Right to life.
    Article 4: Ban on slavery.
    Article 5: Ban on torture.
    Article 6: Right to recognition as a person before the law.
    Article 7: Equality before the law.

IMHO  The UN has outlived its usefulness in that members can block anything if they are one of 15 on the rotating security council as Russia has done in Ukraine and with Syria.   $$$ as anywhere is the king    Unlike previous POTUS' , President Trump has called out Russia,  Hardly consistent with someone who is alleged (with no proof) to be in their pocket.  


Sadly, the leaders of the two major Islamic sects continue  to encourage lying to infidels and to kill or enslave non believers and it has been that way for over 1200 years.  Not that Christians have not done their share of bloodletting over the same period.......such as the Inquisition and the Crusades.

I look at this picture and I do not forget what was and keep getting angry at the "media" and our government for not taking the threat seriously



Prayers for the victims, those who lost everything and their families

It seems that none of them apply to Muslims.
Art 1-freedom and Equality. According to the Muslims all non Muslims are infidels that need to be converted or killed.
Art 2- Ban on Discrimination. See article 1
Art 3- Right to life. Per the Muslims, unless you are Jewish, Christian, Homosexual, anything but Muslim. But even if you are the wrong kind of Muslim you have no right to live.
Art 4- Ban on Slavery. If you are a Christian female, even if you are a child, It is OK for the Muslim to hold you as a sex slave. Plus, even though alot of Blacks convert to Islam, sort of, the Muslims are the biggest holder of blacks as slaves in the modern world.
Art 5- Ban on torture. How many videos do we have to see of christians getting be-headed, locked in cages and set on fire, locked in cages and drowned and being sold into sex slavery??
Art 6- Right to recognition as a person. Does that hold true for muslim women, who are second class citizens, cannot speak to a male that isn't their father or husband, cannot drive, has to live silent covered from head to toe, cannot state that they were raped unless 4 male family members witnessed the rape.
Art 7- Equality before the law. What a joke, they live by Sharia law, show me where there is any equality in Sharia law for both muslims and non-muslims.

According to this the UN must be for equal right for everyone except Muslims, or the UN is comprised of Muslims where them and only them are right.

[¿spoom]

of course there is a double or triple standard

These are the human rights per the UN
in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights

    Preamble.
    Article 1: Innate freedom and equality.
    Article 2: Ban on discrimination.
    Article 3: Right to life.
    Article 4: Ban on slavery.
    Article 5: Ban on torture.
    Article 6: Right to recognition as a person before the law.
    Article 7: Equality before the law.

IMHO  The UN has outlived its usefulness in that members can block anything if they are one of 15 on the rotating security council as Russia has done in Ukraine and with Syria.   $$$ as anywhere is the king    Unlike previous POTUS' , President Trump has called out Russia,  Hardly consistent with someone who is alleged (with no proof) to be in their pocket.  


Sadly, the leaders of the two major Islamic sects continue  to encourage lying to infidels and to kill or enslave non believers and it has been that way for over 1200 years.  Not that Christians have not done their share of bloodletting over the same period.......such as the Inquisition and the Crusades.

I look at this picture and I do not forget what was and keep getting angry at the "media" and our government for not taking the threat seriously



Prayers for the victims, those who lost everything and their families

It seems that none of them apply to Muslims.
Art 1-freedom and Equality. According to the Muslims all non Muslims are infidels that need to be converted or killed.
Art 2- Ban on Discrimination. See article 1
Art 3- Right to life. Per the Muslims, unless you are Jewish, Christian, Homosexual, anything but Muslim. But even if you are the wrong kind of Muslim you have no right to live.
Art 4- Ban on Slavery. If you are a Christian female, even if you are a child, It is OK for the Muslim to hold you as a sex slave. Plus, even though alot of Blacks convert to Islam, sort of, the Muslims are the biggest holder of blacks as slaves in the modern world.
Art 5- Ban on torture. How many videos do we have to see of christians getting be-headed, locked in cages and set on fire, locked in cages and drowned and being sold into sex slavery??
Art 6- Right to recognition as a person. Does that hold true for muslim women, who are second class citizens, cannot speak to a male that isn't their father or husband, cannot drive, has to live silent covered from head to toe, cannot state that they were raped unless 4 male family members witnessed the rape.
Art 7- Equality before the law. What a joke, they live by Sharia law, show me where there is any equality in Sharia law for both muslims and non-muslims.

According to this the UN must be for equal right for everyone except Muslims, or the UN is comprised of Muslims where them and only them are right.

The UN is useless for anything but wealth distribution. (from the US) They have completely abandoned any duties for peacekeeping, and the US should get out of the UN. Send the organization off to Brussels to build a new headquarters, and tear down the current building on the east river. NYC always needs more money, and that land will be an easy sell, with much more property taxes collected once it's developed. In an abstract way, they are also against the global warming goals they promote. In striving to constantly raise population growth and resource use in areas that shouldn't be populated in the first place because they can't support human life, and demanding high living standards on top of it. Sam Kinison had a better grasp on world hunger than the UN!