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98valk
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« on: April 23, 2019, 01:28:40 PM »

the obama white house

https://www.oann.com/judicial-watch-fbi-found-clinton-emails-at-obama-white-house/

A top FBI official has confirmed Hillary Clinton’s missing emails were found in the Obama White House.

Assistant FBI Director Bill Priestap admitted under oath the bureau had found 49,000 Clinton emails at the Executive Office of President Obama.

The FBI’s discovery happened as a result of a search warrant for the emails found on the laptop of disgraced Democrat Congressman Anthony Weiner.

Judicial Watch also said Priestap’s testimony has confirmed Clinton tried to destroy the emails.

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« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2019, 01:45:01 PM »

Gosh I wish it was enough to get them both thrown in the slammer
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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2019, 02:18:19 PM »

             I wunder how Many bodies will be dropped prior to public release of those pesky e-mails? RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2019, 02:25:14 PM »

It would be nice to have a date of discovery.  Followed by the signed FBI chain of custody document on the emails.  Followed by an evaluation of security/classification content of the emails.  That's a good beginning.

I'm sure we'll hear a legitimate explanation, like they got lost in a file cabinet (in Jim Comey's office).
  
Maybe Bob Mueller needs a REAL job.  (just kidding, sort of)
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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2019, 07:21:46 AM »

Can you imagine if Trump's tax records got lost like Hillary's emails?
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« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2019, 07:30:00 AM »

Can you imagine if Trump's tax records got lost like Hillary's emails?
They haven’t ?
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« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2019, 07:57:15 AM »

Can you imagine if Trump's tax records got lost like Hillary's emails?
They haven’t ?

I believe the IRS, which is a US Government agency, has all of Trump's tax records.
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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2019, 08:05:28 AM »

It would be nice to have a date of discovery.  Followed by the signed FBI chain of custody document on the emails.  Followed by an evaluation of security/classification content of the emails.  That's a good beginning.

I'm sure we'll hear a legitimate explanation, like they got lost in a file cabinet (in Jim Comey's office).
  
Maybe Bob Mueller needs a REAL job.  (just kidding, sort of)




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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2019, 08:10:34 AM »

Can you imagine if Trump's tax records got lost like Hillary's emails?
They haven’t ?

Rob,, you just bolstered my point.
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« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2019, 08:29:43 AM »

Can you imagine if Trump's tax records got lost like Hillary's emails?
They haven’t ?

Rob,, you just bolstered my point.
Grin I think you bolstered mine.
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« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2019, 08:37:32 AM »

You do understand there is no legal requirement for Trump to disclose his tax returns....correct? The fact others before him have provided their tax returns is of their own doing, not of any legal requirement.
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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2019, 08:43:33 AM »

You do understand there is no legal requirement for Trump to disclose his tax returns....correct? The fact others before him have provided their tax returns is of their own doing, not of any legal requirement.
Yes. Do you know the Finance chairman has the right by law to see them ?
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« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2019, 09:02:46 AM »

You do understand there is no legal requirement for Trump to disclose his tax returns....correct? The fact others before him have provided their tax returns is of their own doing, not of any legal requirement.
Yes. Do you know the Finance chairman has the right by law to see them ?

What law would that be?
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« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2019, 09:06:28 AM »

Can you imagine if Trump's tax records got lost like Hillary's emails?
They haven’t ?

Rob,, you just bolstered my point.
Grin I think you bolstered mine.

Then we agree,, soon as Hillary produces her emails Trump will produce his tax returns.
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« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2019, 09:08:18 AM »

You do understand there is no legal requirement for Trump to disclose his tax returns....correct? The fact others before him have provided their tax returns is of their own doing, not of any legal requirement.
Yes. Do you know the Finance chairman has the right by law to see them ?

What law would that be?

26 U.S. Code § 6103

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/6103

Specifically this bit:

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(f) Disclosure to Committees of Congress
(1) Committee on Ways and Means, Committee on Finance, and Joint Committee on Taxation
Upon written request from the chairman of the Committee on Ways and Means of the House of Representatives, the chairman of the Committee on Finance of the Senate, or the chairman of the Joint Committee on Taxation, the Secretary shall furnish such committee with any return or return information specified in such request, except that any return or return information which can be associated with, or otherwise identify, directly or indirectly, a particular taxpayer shall be furnished to such committee only when sitting in closed executive session unless such taxpayer otherwise consents in writing to such disclosure.

Hopefully President Trump is able to challenge this and get this law overturned by the SCOTUS.
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« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2019, 09:11:03 AM »

Can you imagine if Trump's tax records got lost like Hillary's emails?
They haven’t ?

Rob,, you just bolstered my point.
Grin I think you bolstered mine.
                   And MAYBE obamas REAL birth certificate?  2funny I Mean yer gonna go anywho go LARGE!  cooldude RIDE SAFE.

Then we agree,, soon as Hillary produces her emails Trump will produce his tax returns.
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« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2019, 09:11:34 AM »

You do understand there is no legal requirement for Trump to disclose his tax returns....correct? The fact others before him have provided their tax returns is of their own doing, not of any legal requirement.
Yes. Do you know the Finance chairman has the right by law to see them ?

What law would that be?

26 U.S. Code § 6103

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/6103

Specifically this bit:

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(f) Disclosure to Committees of Congress
(1) Committee on Ways and Means, Committee on Finance, and Joint Committee on Taxation
Upon written request from the chairman of the Committee on Ways and Means of the House of Representatives, the chairman of the Committee on Finance of the Senate, or the chairman of the Joint Committee on Taxation, the Secretary shall furnish such committee with any return or return information specified in such request, except that any return or return information which can be associated with, or otherwise identify, directly or indirectly, a particular taxpayer shall be furnished to such committee only when sitting in closed executive session unless such taxpayer otherwise consents in writing to such disclosure.

Hopefully President Trump is able to challenge this and get this law overturned by the SCOTUS.
It wouldn’t surprise me. He seems willing to go to any lengths to avoid the law.  Wink
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« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2019, 09:18:11 AM »

You do understand there is no legal requirement for Trump to disclose his tax returns....correct? The fact others before him have provided their tax returns is of their own doing, not of any legal requirement.
Yes. Do you know the Finance chairman has the right by law to see them ?

What law would that be?

26 U.S. Code § 6103

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/6103

Specifically this bit:

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(f) Disclosure to Committees of Congress
(1) Committee on Ways and Means, Committee on Finance, and Joint Committee on Taxation
Upon written request from the chairman of the Committee on Ways and Means of the House of Representatives, the chairman of the Committee on Finance of the Senate, or the chairman of the Joint Committee on Taxation, the Secretary shall furnish such committee with any return or return information specified in such request, except that any return or return information which can be associated with, or otherwise identify, directly or indirectly, a particular taxpayer shall be furnished to such committee only when sitting in closed executive session unless such taxpayer otherwise consents in writing to such disclosure.

Hopefully President Trump is able to challenge this and get this law overturned by the SCOTUS.
It wouldn’t surprise me. He seems willing to go to any lengths to avoid the law.  Wink

you really are special aren't you?
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« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2019, 09:32:33 AM »

President Trump's tax returns will be stapled to Hillary's indictment(s).
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« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2019, 09:35:56 AM »

these people that want Trumps taxes are sad. These same people will not condemn Hillary for her lost emails and stupidity. If we want Trumps taxes we first have to investigate real crimes like Hillary's emails. Until then i'd tell everyone to pound sand.
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« Reply #20 on: April 24, 2019, 09:36:56 AM »

Read the applicable law in the US Code. This is about the IRS and disclosure of returns.

The law as read about the Ways and Means committee I would find to be unconstitutional along with other parts of this part of the US Code.

At the very least, and within the code there are actual examples of this, so there is precedent within the code itself, there should be a requirement that any request for such records of returns be accompanied by the reason for the request and to inform the subject that their returns are being reviewed by elements outside of the IRS.

This would at least give the subject notice and allow the subject to object in a court of law. Which should be everyone's right in these matters.

Way too much political leverage here to do otherwise.
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« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2019, 10:12:55 AM »

You do understand there is no legal requirement for Trump to disclose his tax returns....correct? The fact others before him have provided their tax returns is of their own doing, not of any legal requirement.
Yes. Do you know the Finance chairman has the right by law to see them ?

What law would that be?

26 U.S. Code § 6103

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/6103

Specifically this bit:

Quote
(f) Disclosure to Committees of Congress
(1) Committee on Ways and Means, Committee on Finance, and Joint Committee on Taxation
Upon written request from the chairman of the Committee on Ways and Means of the House of Representatives, the chairman of the Committee on Finance of the Senate, or the chairman of the Joint Committee on Taxation, the Secretary shall furnish such committee with any return or return information specified in such request, except that any return or return information which can be associated with, or otherwise identify, directly or indirectly, a particular taxpayer shall be furnished to such committee only when sitting in closed executive session unless such taxpayer otherwise consents in writing to such disclosure.

Hopefully President Trump is able to challenge this and get this law overturned by the SCOTUS.
It wouldn’t surprise me. He seems willing to go to any lengths to avoid the law.  Wink

 Wow. That is probably one of the most laughable statements you have ever made. The clinton's have been doing that for decades.  Gavin is dead on. You're special all right...... uglystupid2
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« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2019, 10:21:54 AM »

When confronted by the accusation of wrongdoing by a leftist politician a common reaction from leftists is to deflect by insisting some's wrongdoing on the right is just as bad rather than arguing the innocence of the accused.

Let us not fall into that deflective, logically meaningless pattern.  
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« Reply #23 on: April 24, 2019, 10:25:32 AM »

When confronted by the accusation of wrongdoing by a leftist politician a common reaction from leftists is to deflect by insisting some's wrongdoing on the right is just as bad rather than arguing the innocence of the accused.

Let us not fall into that deflective, logically meaningless pattern.  

But they started it.
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« Reply #24 on: April 24, 2019, 10:32:52 AM »

When confronted by the accusation of wrongdoing by a leftist politician a common reaction from leftists is to deflect by insisting some's wrongdoing on the right is just as bad rather than arguing the innocence of the accused.

Let us not fall into that deflective, logically meaningless pattern.  

Well said Willow, I have taken that bait too many times.
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« Reply #25 on: April 24, 2019, 10:56:32 AM »

The Mueller Investigation and Trump's tax records present the same issue to me.

There must be enough existing evidence, before any investigation or tax record disclosure can go forward, as demonstrated to the proper court, that there is probable cause sufficient to believe there is both 1) one or more crimes appear to have been committed, and 2) that the President (or his agents) are the ones who committed those crimes.

The same standard for any procedural due process issuance of an arrest or search warrant.

If you cannot make that preliminary showing, you should not be allowed any investigation or any individual tax records.

You must not be allowed to run (perpetual) inquisitorial fishing expeditions against the President, or anyone else. 

Make your case or shut up.    (and go back to the work you are paid to do)
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« Reply #26 on: April 24, 2019, 01:10:25 PM »

The Mueller Investigation and Trump's tax records present the same issue to me.

There must be enough existing evidence, before any investigation or tax record disclosure can go forward, as demonstrated to the proper court, that there is probable cause sufficient to believe there is both 1) one or more crimes appear to have been committed, and 2) that the President (or his agents) are the ones who committed those crimes.

The same standard for any procedural due process issuance of an arrest or search warrant.

If you cannot make that preliminary showing, you should not be allowed any investigation or any individual tax records.

You must not be allowed to run (perpetual) inquisitorial fishing expeditions against the President, or anyone else. 

Make your case or shut up.    (and go back to the work you are paid to do)

And that work  isn't to do continous, baseless investigations for political purposes. You would scream bloody murder if the President would start endless investigations on you for "no" reason .
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« Reply #27 on: April 24, 2019, 02:15:58 PM »

The Mueller Investigation and Trump's tax records present the same issue to me.

There must be enough existing evidence, before any investigation or tax record disclosure can go forward, as demonstrated to the proper court, that there is probable cause sufficient to believe there is both 1) one or more crimes appear to have been committed, and 2) that the President (or his agents) are the ones who committed those crimes.

The same standard for any procedural due process issuance of an arrest or search warrant.

If you cannot make that preliminary showing, you should not be allowed any investigation or any individual tax records.

You must not be allowed to run (perpetual) inquisitorial fishing expeditions against the President, or anyone else. 

Make your case or shut up.    (and go back to the work you are paid to do)
               BUTBUTBUTBUT I wanna indict someone damnit all ta hell!  2funny RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #28 on: April 24, 2019, 02:27:03 PM »

Personally, I think Trump should release his tax returns. With the premise that all Government elected officials also release their returns for all the years they have been in office. All of their returns need to be scrutinized to see if their reported incomes match their net worth.
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« Reply #29 on: April 24, 2019, 04:33:39 PM »

Personally, I think Trump should release his tax returns. With the premise that all Government elected officials also release their returns for all the years they have been in office. All of their returns need to be scrutinized to see if their reported incomes match their net worth.

many have released their returns. problem is the congress and senate made themselves exempt from insider trading decades ago. so they load up on stock and so do all their friends and family, which they know the stock/s will go up from the policies they pass.
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« Reply #30 on: April 24, 2019, 04:43:55 PM »

Didn't President Trump e-mail his tax returns to Hillary?  Cheesy
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« Reply #31 on: April 24, 2019, 04:50:02 PM »

Personally, I think Trump should release his tax returns. With the premise that all Government elected officials also release their returns for all the years they have been in office. All of their returns need to be scrutinized to see if their reported incomes match their net worth.

many have released their returns. problem is the congress and senate made themselves exempt from insider trading decades ago. so they load up on stock and so do all their friends and family, which they know the stock/s will go up from the policies they pass.

I think that got changed a few years ago.
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« Reply #32 on: April 24, 2019, 04:52:10 PM »

Personally, I think Trump should release his tax returns. With the premise that all Government elected officials also release their returns for all the years they have been in office. All of their returns need to be scrutinized to see if their reported incomes match their net worth.

many have released their returns. problem is the congress and senate made themselves exempt from insider trading decades ago. so they load up on stock and so do all their friends and family, which they know the stock/s will go up from the policies they pass.

I think that got changed a few years ago.

Here ya go

https://www.cnn.com/2012/02/02/politics/senate-insider-trading/index.html

Of course they might be worried about pre ban "investments"!
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« Reply #33 on: April 24, 2019, 05:47:53 PM »

Personally, I think Trump should release his tax returns. With the premise that all Government elected officials also release their returns for all the years they have been in office. All of their returns need to be scrutinized to see if their reported incomes match their net worth.

many have released their returns. problem is the congress and senate made themselves exempt from insider trading decades ago. so they load up on stock and so do all their friends and family, which they know the stock/s will go up from the policies they pass.

I think that got changed a few years ago.

called the Stock Act. they gutted it already allowing them to continue
https://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/breakout/stock-act-gets-gutted-why-care-173159298.html


and many financial traders are starting to report more often than they were a few yrs ago (before Trump was elected) that a major market crash will happen in 2020, thereby causing Trump to lose.
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« Reply #34 on: April 25, 2019, 03:22:18 AM »

Some of us are looking forward to when Hillary disappears and hoping she cannot be found.
And no we do not expect Bill to look for her, but the DNC will.

And yes some fool will award her the Disappearing Nobel PIECE Prize with Oak Leaves and PObama garnish.
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« Reply #35 on: April 25, 2019, 05:23:00 AM »

Personally, I think Trump should release his tax returns. With the premise that all Government elected officials also release their returns for all the years they have been in office. All of their returns need to be scrutinized to see if their reported incomes match their net worth.

many have released their returns. problem is the congress and senate made themselves exempt from insider trading decades ago. so they load up on stock and so do all their friends and family, which they know the stock/s will go up from the policies they pass.

I think that got changed a few years ago.

called the Stock Act. they gutted it already allowing them to continue
https://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/breakout/stock-act-gets-gutted-why-care-173159298.html


and many financial traders are starting to report more often than they were a few yrs ago (before Trump was elected) that a major market crash will happen in 2020, thereby causing Trump to lose.

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