Jabba
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« on: August 04, 2011, 04:44:01 PM » |
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OK... I feel like a doofus... but it seems as though I need to remove the driven hub from the wheel to get to the 3rd O-Ring.
How the HELL does that thing come off?
I have the 5 bolts off. I'd have thought that it would lift off the lugs that are in the dampers.
What am I doing wrong folks?
Do I need to remove the metal twist clampy jammy dog in there to get that off like in the picture in the shoptalk section about it? If so... how does THAT come off?
Jabba
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Chrisj CMA
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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2011, 04:48:54 PM » |
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No, STOP.......going at it all wrong
First of all the elusive O ring is the one inside the hub, the one under the flange is the skinny one. the flange just pulls off the wheel. Use your BIGGEST screwdriver and carefull (working around the thing) pry it until it pops loose then it comes off easy
Those five bolts never need to be unbolted. Put them back on
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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2011, 04:49:03 PM » |
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Put the nuts back on.
The whole thing comes out, pins (lugs) and all. It's just held to the wheel by friction of the pins in the dampers. Try prying it out with a large screwdriver, working at each pin in turn.
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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2011, 04:53:37 PM » |
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It is kind of a red herring that the jammy jimmy dog thing is off in this picture, the O-ring being pointed to is visible without taking any of that stuff off...  The elusive 3rd O-ring is down in here, in the final drive...  -Mike |
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Daniel Meyer
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« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2011, 05:47:20 PM » |
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Jabba
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« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2011, 03:55:28 AM » |
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The one in the hub was easy. It's the skinny one I can't seem to get to.
After work tonight. I am SUPPOSED to get my driveline parts today.
Jabba
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« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2011, 04:12:28 AM » |
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dang jaba,,those splines needed some tlc..what was the mileage before you caught that/ were you just doing a tire change or what?? ive been doing the whole drive shaft removal / service every tire chang/ 10k / all is good...  |
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« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2011, 09:20:54 AM » |
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9K since I did the final drive splines, but i didn't know to pull the pinion cup back then.
Live and learn I guess. The bike has 42K on it now. 32K on it when I bought it a year ago.
I have never pulled it on my STD either, but I will when I get the IS back together. I like to keep one running as I barely touch a cage in the summer.
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« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2011, 09:31:56 AM » |
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9K since I did the final drive splines, but i didn't know to pull the pinion cup back then.
Live and learn I guess. The bike has 42K on it now. 32K on it when I bought it a year ago.
I have never pulled it on my STD either, but I will when I get the IS back together. I like to keep one running as I barely touch a cage in the summer.
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« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2011, 10:41:22 AM » |
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The one in the hub was easy. It's the skinny one I can't seem to get to.
After work tonight. I am SUPPOSED to get my driveline parts today.
Jabba
I've used a small pry bar to remove the wheel flange. If yours won't come out easily spray some penetrating oil around the legs and let it sit a while. Marty |
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« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2011, 11:01:54 AM » |
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« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2011, 03:40:45 AM » |
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Is it only me? When I raise the tire up to get it level with the pumpkin so I can shove in the axle, 10 out of 9 times I end up bumping the collar out of alignment. The end of the collar protrudes beyond the flat of the pumpkin. Lower the tire down, adjust the collar. Raise the tire back up again, bump the collar again. It's not fun anymore. Yes, the collar's fully bottomed out in the pumpkin. And the tire is only a inch or two below it's higher aligned position. Also, I use the axle to facilitate mating the splines, but before that, I still have to maneuver the driven flange pass the pesky collar. 4 swingarm bolts loosened.  |
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« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2011, 08:39:45 AM » |
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I'm not a big believer in that process where you loosen up the four pumpkin nuts whenever the rear wheel is removed and replaced. Although there are many that make it their religion.
Seems to me that once you have done the "process" and got those four nut good and tight there is no reason to repeat that one particular loosening and tightening regime. Like what's moved since the last time?
And there is also the question of stud fatigue. I think Honda recommends replacing those studs whenever they are messed with.
As long as you keep the rear axle good and tight the whole rear swingarm assembly is a solid unit and should not need realigning to the extent that some will preach.
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« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2011, 09:36:01 AM » |
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I'm not a big believer in that process where you loosen up the four pumpkin nuts whenever the rear wheel is removed and replaced. Although there are many that make it their religion.
Seems to me that once you have done the "process" and got those four nut good and tight there is no reason to repeat that one particular loosening and tightening regime. Like what's moved since the last time?
And there is also the question of stud fatigue. I think Honda recommends replacing those studs whenever they are messed with.
As long as you keep the rear axle good and tight the whole rear swingarm assembly is a solid unit and should not need realigning to the extent that some will preach.
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Fair enough (maybe) if you take great care while r/r the wheel not to put a lateral or twisting load on the final drive, but I wouldnt risk it. Also I wouldnt dream of changing a tire without checking the splines on the driveshaft unless it was like a nail in the tire a very short time after a splines greasing. The business of wearing out the studs is bunk.........well maybe if you torqed them to 150ftlbs like I have seen some gorrilla mechanics and thier air rachets do and did it every month or so, but not as often as they need doing normally |
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« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2011, 10:34:55 AM » |
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It's a honda procedure and has been since 1980...it's just not worded particularly well in our manual.
To repeat myself...the spline problem is not unique to the valks. Honda identified the cause and solution 30 years ago on this type of final drive.
99% of the time it may be allright.
Heh...but it's the 1% we're talking about here on the list...over and over and over again.
Takes just minutes, you need to inspect the pinion joint anyway, and saves big wompum $$$.
do the deed.
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Jabba
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« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2011, 05:54:39 AM » |
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OK... I got the o-rings. Why do I feel the need to make things tougher than they are? That was EASY once I grabbed the right tool.  Jabba |
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« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2011, 06:06:34 AM » |
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OK... I got the o-rings. Why do I feel the need to make things tougher than they are? That was EASY once I grabbed the right tool. Jabba  We've all been there. If you go to a drug store you can find some dental picks like your dentist uses to get the o rings out of their grooves real easy. Marty |
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« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2011, 06:33:00 AM » |
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I used a heavy staple.
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