taliban murders more children...

[hubcapsc]

They've laid siege to a school full of children in Pakistan. I'm terrified that some of
the taliban will be caught and slapped around or otherwise be treated rudely.

-Mike

[..]

The English are going to

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2873360/British-troops-banned-shouting-insurgent-terror-suspects-soft-touch-new-rules-interrogation.html

[..]

http://www.news.com.au/world/middle-east/taliban-storm-school-in-pakistan-in-revenge-attack/story-fnh81ifq-1227158633485

[old2soon]

lucifer-satan-the great deceiver-really does SEEM to have a lot o followers MORE than willing to do his bidding.  AND if you DO NOT believe satan himself has a hand in this could you come up with a better solution?  They mostly seem to go after the young-the women and the unarmed. And those they capture that DO NOT convert to islam are tortured/killed/beheaded. And yet our gubmint WORRIES we might hurt their feelings by E I T?? Some of the folks in charge REALLY do need to get their collective heads out of the rectal cavities.  Pretty please with sugar on top-we need the info.  Hey-asshole-if yer hungry have that pork chop. RIDE SAFE.

[Jess from VA]

The English are going to

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2873360/British-troops-banned-shouting-insurgent-terror-suspects-soft-touch-new-rules-interrogation.html

Exactly the fall out to be expected from comrade Feinstein's very public hatchet job on CIA interrogations. (Even if we WERE using blowtorches and bolt cutters, it should never have been a PUBLIC hatchet job)

I do believe she should go over there and personally speak to these people to explain why civilized peoples simply do not do these things.  I mean, she being the expert and all.  She might even get some free publicity from an Islamic video of her receiving a very short haircut (which I would get out the popcorn for).

[Patrick]

The English are going to

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2873360/British-troops-banned-shouting-insurgent-terror-suspects-soft-touch-new-rules-interrogation.html

Exactly the fall out to be expected from comrade Feinstein's very public hatchet job on CIA interrogations. (Even if we WERE using blowtorches and bolt cutters, it should never have been a PUBLIC hatchet job)

I do believe she should go over there and personally speak to these people to explain why civilized peoples simply do not do these things.  I mean, she being the expert and all.  She might even get some free publicity from an Islamic video of her receiving a very short haircut (which I would get out the popcorn for).

Yep, and she could take hillary along for the ride. The two can then 'empathize' those dickheads into becoming nice Christian folks.
They could start a camp fire, make smoores, hold hands and all could sing a rousing rendition of Kumbayah.

The last I heard is that they had just killed 120+ kids.  Thats some religion alright.

[The emperor has no clothes]

The English are going to

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2873360/British-troops-banned-shouting-insurgent-terror-suspects-soft-touch-new-rules-interrogation.html

Exactly the fall out to be expected from comrade Feinstein's very public hatchet job on CIA interrogations. (Even if we WERE using blowtorches and bolt cutters, it should never have been a PUBLIC hatchet job)

I do believe she should go over there and personally speak to these people to explain why civilized peoples simply do not do these things.  I mean, she being the expert and all.  She might even get some free publicity from an Islamic video of her receiving a very short haircut (which I would get out the popcorn for).

It looks like the policy was implemented years ago. Way before the Senate report.

[specialdose]

            Wonder after this, will Pakistan ISI still be covert pals with the Taliban ? Catch my post on Senate Report on CIA Interrogation
 thread.

[BF]

The English are going to

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2873360/British-troops-banned-shouting-insurgent-terror-suspects-soft-touch-new-rules-interrogation.html

Exactly the fall out to be expected from comrade Feinstein's very public hatchet job on CIA interrogations. (Even if we WERE using blowtorches and bolt cutters, it should never have been a PUBLIC hatchet job)

I do believe she should go over there and personally speak to these people to explain why civilized peoples simply do not do these things.  I mean, she being the expert and all.  She might even get some free publicity from an Islamic video of her receiving a very short haircut (which I would get out the popcorn for).

It looks like the policy was implemented years ago. Way before the Senate report.

Seriously?  It's still more important for you to keep blaming Bush for everything instead of the heathens that are actually killing children?   

[Patrick]

These EIT have been around for quite awhile. Actually Bush did approve them. We were at war and at the time didn't know what more to expect. 
Not to rehash old stuff, we've been thru it. EIT is approved and ruled not torture.
Bush didn't release any of these captured dickheads and we all know obama did. And they went right back to fighting us.
I applaud Bush for doing what had to be done and gaining the info to capture these dickheads which eventually led to UBL.

[Patrick]

These EIT have been around for quite awhile. Actually Bush did approve them. We were at war and at the time didn't know what more to expect. 
Not to rehash old stuff, we've been thru it. EIT is approved and ruled not torture.
Bush didn't release any of these captured dickheads and we all know obama did. And they went right back to fighting us.
I applaud Bush for doing what had to be done and gaining the info to capture these dickheads which eventually led to UBL.

[rainman]

The English are going to

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2873360/British-troops-banned-shouting-insurgent-terror-suspects-soft-touch-new-rules-interrogation.html

Exactly the fall out to be expected from comrade Feinstein's very public hatchet job on CIA interrogations. (Even if we WERE using blowtorches and bolt cutters, it should never have been a PUBLIC hatchet job) 

I do believe she should go over there and personally speak to these people to explain why civilized peoples simply do not do these things.  I mean, she being the expert and all.  She might even get some free publicity from an Islamic video of her receiving a very short haircut (which I would get out the popcorn for).

I hope she does go. maybe she won't make it back 

[The emperor has no clothes]

The English are going to

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2873360/British-troops-banned-shouting-insurgent-terror-suspects-soft-touch-new-rules-interrogation.html

Exactly the fall out to be expected from comrade Feinstein's very public hatchet job on CIA interrogations. (Even if we WERE using blowtorches and bolt cutters, it should never have been a PUBLIC hatchet job)

I do believe she should go over there and personally speak to these people to explain why civilized peoples simply do not do these things.  I mean, she being the expert and all.  She might even get some free publicity from an Islamic video of her receiving a very short haircut (which I would get out the popcorn for).

It looks like the policy was implemented years ago. Way before the Senate report.

Seriously?  It's still more important for you to keep blaming Bush for everything instead of the heathens that are actually killing children?   

Seriously ? Bush has nothing to do with it. I was just pointing out that the UK [England] put those policies in effect years ago. Way before the Senate report came out. Which Jess was saying caused the policy changes.

[dreamaker]

So what it all boils down to and the bottom line is, Americans are suppose go to gun fights with a sling shot correct. "Oh honey it is not nice to kill people and please don't do it again"  "BAD! BAD! CIA, Shame Shame!"

[..]

The English are going to

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2873360/British-troops-banned-shouting-insurgent-terror-suspects-soft-touch-new-rules-interrogation.html

Exactly the fall out to be expected from comrade Feinstein's very public hatchet job on CIA interrogations. (Even if we WERE using blowtorches and bolt cutters, it should never have been a PUBLIC hatchet job)

I do believe she should go over there and personally speak to these people to explain why civilized peoples simply do not do these things.  I mean, she being the expert and all.  She might even get some free publicity from an Islamic video of her receiving a very short haircut (which I would get out the popcorn for).

Yep, and she could take hillary along for the ride. The two can then 'empathize' those dickheads into becoming nice Christian folks.
They could start a camp fire, make smoores, hold hands and all could sing a rousing rendition of Kumbayah.

The last I heard is that they had just killed 120+ kids.  Thats some religion alright.

The willingly ignorant will keep on wanting to vote for Hillary or whoever the Dem/Lib/Progs put forward in 2016.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/5/hillary-clinton-empathize-enemies-remark-slammed/#!

http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/20525/

[Willow]

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I do believe she should go over there and personally speak to these people to explain why civilized peoples simply do not do these things.  I mean, she being the expert and all.  She might even get some free publicity from an Islamic video of her receiving a very short haircut (which I would get out the popcorn for).

First let me say I am thoroughly disgusted by the behavior of the Taliban and I completely disapprove of the public statements made by such politicians as Ms. Feinstein.

That said, we need to be careful not to hope for what the evil people do to their victims to happen to anyone despite how disgusting we find the politics.  To do so would put us in the same category as the evil ones, the only difference being whom we see as targets.  In fact it almost justifies their behavior.  I'm not in favor of that.      

[BF]

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I do believe she should go over there and personally speak to these people to explain why civilized peoples simply do not do these things.  I mean, she being the expert and all.  She might even get some free publicity from an Islamic video of her receiving a very short haircut (which I would get out the popcorn for).

First let me say I am thoroughly disgusted by the behavior of the Taliban and I completely disapprove of the public statements made by such politicians as Ms. Feinstein.

That said, we need to be careful not to hope for what the evil people do to their victims to happen to anyone despite how disgusting we find the politics.  To do so would put us in the same category as the evil ones, the only difference being whom we see as targets.  In fact it almost justifies their behavior.  I'm not in favor of that.      

You're much wiser than I oh great one, but that urge is a difficult one to resist given some of the ones that govern, and want to govern our county. 

[Black Pearl's Captain]

They've laid siege to a school full of children in Pakistan. I'm terrified that some of
the taliban will be caught and slapped around or otherwise be treated rudely.

-Mike

I'm more terrified that 11 of "taliban" may be in the US of A and will harm our kids.

[Willow]

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I do believe she should go over there and personally speak to these people to explain why civilized peoples simply do not do these things.  I mean, she being the expert and all.  She might even get some free publicity from an Islamic video of her receiving a very short haircut (which I would get out the popcorn for).

First let me say I am thoroughly disgusted by the behavior of the Taliban and I completely disapprove of the public statements made by such politicians as Ms. Feinstein.

That said, we need to be careful not to hope for what the evil people do to their victims to happen to anyone despite how disgusting we find the politics.  To do so would put us in the same category as the evil ones, the only difference being whom we see as targets.  In fact it almost justifies their behavior.  I'm not in favor of that.      

You're much wiser than I oh great one, but that urge is a difficult one to resist given some of the ones that govern, and want to govern our county. 

I'm certainly no wiser than you, BF, and please don't misunderstand as I surely did not mean that it was easy for me.   

[Jess from VA]

Even if the Brit policy predated the senate report, this news story is nonetheless brought to the top, and the MSM all joins hands in browbeating EITs (and our intelligence service).... predictably. 

Carl, Pelosi compromises and hamstrings legitimate American intelligence practices and kicks our own top intelligence agency and career professionals in the balls for her own (and party's) perceived political gain. At the direct risk of our serving military war fighters.  If someone provides aid and comfort to the enemy, then I don't have a problem throwing them to that enemy for..... rehabilitation.  Of course it would never happen, and if it did she would be made into a great and fearless martyr.  And I don't care how she goes, as long as she goes.

 

[JimmyG]

Viet Nam 1969 -1970, Desert Storm, 1990-1991,  All I have to say is, Muslims, scourge of the 21st century,  no honour, no courage, cowards of the first degree, ant-christs, worthless...... sorry, just  what I know from being there and being around them.  Yeah, I know, I am just as bad from their perspective, but really, use your heads people.

[Patrick]

Heck, even our top lawyer/cop said a year or so ago that EIT was legal and not torture.  And Feinstein goes against what her own party leaders had to say.  I would imagine she is on her way out the door.

[Willow]

Carl, Pelosi compromises and hamstrings legitimate American intelligence practices and kicks our own top intelligence agency and career professionals in the balls for her own (and party's) perceived political gain. At the direct risk of our serving military war fighters.  If someone provides aid and comfort to the enemy, then I don't have a problem throwing them to that enemy for..... rehabilitation.  Of course it would never happen, and if it did she would be made into a great and fearless martyr.  And I don't care how she goes, as long as she goes.

Jess, I won't argue with you at length.  It's quite reasonable for us as different people likely with subtle differences in values to have very different perspectives.

My point is that if I have enough hatred for someone that I want them to experience was the terrorists do then I am in a very real sense saying that their wrongness is not in what they do, but only in the target to which they do it.  I believe the very nature of what they do is wrong.  I would personally like to see Feinstein removed from power.  If what she has done results in a loss of lives I would very much like to see her held accountable and punished for doing what is obviously wrong.  I don't see being murdered and beheaded by a terrorist as that correct punishment.

By the way, I have no problem with firing squads and hangings after sentence has been passed.

This won't make a lot of sense to very many people.  On the day Saddam Hussein was hanged much of the world cheered.  I was pleased that he was removed for the destructive position of power he had held.  I had no problem with the sentence given him.  On the day of his death my primary feeling was regret and grief that any man's life could have been so badly misapplied and to come to such an ignominious end.  I hope at the end of my life there will be reason for celebration, not of the death but of the life lived.   

[Jess from VA]

Carl, I agree that if something is so wrong as to be inhuman, it should not be wished on anyone.

In theory. 

But who knows, maybe they would only shoot her. 

Or marry her off to some old pervert goat herder.

[MAD6Gun]

 I personally don't have one problem with the CIA doing what needs to be done to get the information to keep our people safe. PERIOD. I think they should take a few up in a C130 at 10,000 FT. Open the hatch and ask nicely. If the first one says nothing push him out and keep pushing them out until someone talks. These ANIMALS don't deserve mercy. The sure as hell don't give it to our guys when they capture them.

[Willow]

Carl, I agree that if something is so wrong as to be inhuman, it should not be wished on anyone.
...
Or marry her off to some old pervert goat herder.

Sounds like we're in agreement, but there may be a conflict there.   

[Jess Tolbirt]

I personally don't have one problem with the CIA doing what needs to be done to get the information to keep our people safe. PERIOD. I think they should take a few up in a C130 at 10,000 FT. Open the hatch and ask nicely. If the first one says nothing push him out and keep pushing them out until someone talks. These ANIMALS don't deserve mercy. The sure as hell don't give it to our guys when they capture them.

we used helicopters,,only takes one and the others start singing..

[Jess from VA]

Carl, I agree that if something is so wrong as to be inhuman, it should not be wished on anyone.
...
Or marry her off to some old pervert goat herder.

Sounds like we're in agreement, but there may be a conflict there.  

That's OK man, between us old goat herd perverts, you can have her.  

[Serk]

Or marry her off to some old pervert goat herder.

Let me go on the record as being 100% against the inhumane, unconscionable evil torture of an anonymous goat herder that you're proposing here!

[hubcapsc]

Another "must watch"... Mike Morrell was on Charlie Rose last night. It was a real
pleasure listening them to talk for an hour, instead of listening to them talk
for 5 minutes with Norah interrupting every other sentence... I'd quit CBS This Morning
if it were me... 

A "charlie rose mike morrell" google search will find it...

-Mike

[Patrick]

Another "must watch"... Mike Morrell was on Charlie Rose last night. It was a real
pleasure listening them to talk for an hour, instead of listening to them talk
for 5 minutes with Norah interrupting every other sentence... I'd quit CBS This Morning
if it were me... 

A "charlie rose mike morrell" google search will find it...

-Mike

It is a good watch, well worth it. Thanks for posting. I don't think Charlie Rose can be considered a conservative by any means.


http://www.bloomberg.com/video/cbs-s-mike-morrell-charlie-rose-12-16-kENJr22nRYaOsdJJlhZK3A.html

[hubcapsc]

I don't think Charlie Rose can be considered a conservative by any means.

Probably not. But it doesn't matter who he's interviewing, he isn't disrespectful and
lets them have their say. He asks "real" questions, not loaded questions. Tim Russert
was that way.

-Mike