Eagle 1
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« on: February 04, 2015, 01:51:58 PM » |
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Rummaging through my garage I ran across a few (left over) containers of the old batch of Slick 50, this is the type with Teflon and was so very very slick. If you remember the advertisements where they had this really strong guy hold a standard screwdriver between his fingers, which of course was no problem whatsoever, then they dipped the end in Slick 50 and again had him attempt to do so , which he could not do. The first time I saw this I thought is was totally fake and decided to prove it myself by doing the same test. If you have ever tried this you know it is absolutely impossible of keep that stupid screwdriver in your fingers, and of course you end up with Slick 50 all over your body which is one of those mysteries that no one can explain. All that said I have a question about running it in my Valk, has anyone used the Teflon Slick 50, and if so how did it do, and did it effect the operation of the clutch. I know I have used it through out my life in many cars with great success and even tore down a couple after years of use and found virtually no wear. You asked why I would tear down a motor that had no wear, in my hot rod days, bigger pistons, bigger valves, and cams, anyway hopefully will get some answers. Thanks Eagle 1
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Patrick
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« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2015, 01:57:50 PM » |
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The first to do the screwdriver 'gription' test was STP. We were supposed to try and sell that stuff when Studebaker owned it.
Anyway, back on track, my recommendation is to not use that slick 50 stuff in any engine no matter what shape its in.
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« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2015, 02:13:07 PM » |
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you put that slick 50 in your bike, say goodbye to the clutch.. I wouldn't use that stuff in a car engine either. I tried that stuff when it first came out and I put it in an engine that used no oil between oil changes. well needless to say after that, it was pull into a gas station check the gas and fill the engine with oil.
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« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2015, 02:15:12 PM » |
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Put it your car/truck,.....not in your motorcycle.
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Eagle 1
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« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2015, 02:36:03 PM » |
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Thanks guys I was pretty sure it would do a number on the clutch, but since I am no expert on Valks thought I would run it by those with more experience on. By the way I have this lawn mower>>>>>>>>>>> Eagle 1 http://vrcc.photostash.com/vrcc_36588/Valk1.jpg
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« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2015, 02:42:58 PM » |
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"Lawn Mower"??? That will love it. I ran it in a 58 VW that I had and it was a noticable difference. I didnt have to shift into third going up hill nearly as early. BTW, all over tearing down a motor to see inside.
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Robert
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« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2015, 05:23:28 PM » |
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The reason you don't see slick 50 around in that formulation was because of law suits. Also It seems that the bits of Teflon not only don't stick to the surfaces of the internal parts but they actually get stuck quite well in the filters. So they actually blocked up the filters causing the engines to seize. Also if its slick which Teflon is and doesn't really break down to you want it impregnated on the clutch faces that require friction to work? Most oils use moly as a anti friction additive and that sticks to the internal parts of the engine. These type of oils are not recommended for motorcycles because of the very reason of the clutch being lubricated with oil and burn out because of slippage due to the additives. But if you want a good additive that is not snake oil and actually sticks to the internal engine parts then moly is a good choice. I use it in all my vehicles and lawn mowers generators and even power steering. But not in motorcycles with wet clutch.
In 1997, Blue Corral, the manufacturers of the Slick 50 engine oil additive, were banned by the Federal Trade Commission from making claims about reduced engine wear, increased fuel economy and lower running temperatures in their advertising in America. The Federal Commission found the company's claims of increased performance and reduced wear were unsubstantiated, and Blue Corral agreed to pay upwards of $20M in damages to affected customers.
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« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2015, 07:16:32 PM » |
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Only good use for Slick 50 and STP was during the assembly of an engine, except on the cam lobes.
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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2015, 03:49:22 AM » |
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I used to treat my 1911a1 .45 with slick 50. thousands of rounds down that pipe and never had one hang up.
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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2015, 05:35:22 AM » |
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Might be able to market it to a Harley Owner..... They can put it in their engine and any that leaks out they can put their rear tire on to help with burn outs....
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« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2015, 05:42:03 AM » |
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Might be able to market it to a Harley Owner..... They can put it in their engine and any that leaks out they can put their rear tire on to help with burn outs....
now there's a thought,, i aint never put that slick50 under the rear tire,, i bet i could get all the way to 6th gear and smoke out the neighbors!!
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« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2015, 06:05:19 AM » |
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The reason you don't see slick 50 around in that formulation was because of law suits. Also It seems that the bits of Teflon not only don't stick to the surfaces of the internal parts but they actually get stuck quite well in the filters. So they actually blocked up the filters causing the engines to seize. Also if its slick which Teflon is and doesn't really break down to you want it impregnated on the clutch faces that require friction to work? Most oils use moly as a anti friction additive and that sticks to the internal parts of the engine. These type of oils are not recommended for motorcycles because of the very reason of the clutch being lubricated with oil and burn out because of slippage due to the additives. But if you want a good additive that is not snake oil and actually sticks to the internal engine parts then moly is a good choice. I use it in all my vehicles and lawn mowers generators and even power steering. But not in motorcycles with wet clutch.
In 1997, Blue Corral, the manufacturers of the Slick 50 engine oil additive, were banned by the Federal Trade Commission from making claims about reduced engine wear, increased fuel economy and lower running temperatures in their advertising in America. The Federal Commission found the company's claims of increased performance and reduced wear were unsubstantiated, and Blue Corral agreed to pay upwards of $20M in damages to affected customers.
I used slick 50 in my Ford PU's with the 300/6. I got better gas milage, it did run cooler, and the one that didnt get hit by a tracto trailer ran to 200K without a engine problem. I dont beleive the govt on a lot of things.
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« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2015, 06:22:23 AM » |
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A short story about STP: Way back when in a galaxy far, far away, I was in college. Not being sure what I wanted to do I filled my college hours with the requirements and a few electives. One of those electives was Auto Shop. Sorry, I don't remember the actual name. Regardless, a professor from the college had her Buick Riveria towed in, the engine wouldn't turn over. We tore the engine down to see what was wrong. The engine was a real mess, burnt and scored parts throughout. What had happened is, the professor had never added any oil to the engine, only STP.  The engine oil pump, passages and oil gallies were not designed for such a thick lubrication to be pumped or pass through. Although she had no mechanical knowledge, she believed the commercial and thought STP would be better than 5W30. We ended up putting a new crate motor into the car. I had to take a couple of her classes after that engine swap. I never mentioned it but, she knew who had worked on her car. For some reason, her classes weren't nearly as hard for me as others. No, we didn't go there.
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