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Patrick
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« on: February 06, 2015, 04:36:32 AM »

SADDENED, SENDING TO EVERYONE.
 
PASS IT ON.
 
 
SHALL WE HIRE A MONUMENT ENGRAVER TO GO TO
ARLINGTON NATIONAL CEMETERY AND ADD THE MISSING WORDS?
 
 
THIS IS A MESSAGE FROM AN APPALLED OBSERVER:
 
 
Today I went to visit the new World War II Memorial in Washington , DC .
I got an unexpected history lesson. Because I'm a baby boomer,
I was one of the youngest in the crowd. Most were the age of my parents,
Veterans of 'the greatest war,' with their families. It was a beautiful day,
and people were smiling and happy to be there. Hundreds of us milled
around the memorial, reading the inspiring words of Eisenhower and Truman
that are engraved there.
 
 
On the Pacific side of the memorial, a group of us gathered to read the words
President Roosevelt used to announce the attack on Pearl Harbor :
 
 
'Yesterday, December 7, 1941--a date which will live in infamy--
the United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked.'
 
 
One elderly woman read the words aloud:
 
 
'With confidence in our armed forces, with the abounding
determination of our people, we will gain the inevitable triumph.'
 
 
But as she read, she was suddenly turned angry. 'Wait a minute,' she said,
'they left out the end of the quote. They left out the most important part.
Roosevelt ended the message with
 
 
'so help us God.'
 
 
Her husband said, 'You are probably right. We're not
supposed to say things like that now.'
 
 
'I know I'm right,' she insisted. 'I remember the speech.' The two looked dismayed,
shook their heads sadly and walked away.

Listening to their conversation, I thought to myself,
'Well, it has been over 50 years; she's probably forgotten.'
 
 
But she had not forgotten. She was right..
 
 
I went home and pulled out the book my book club is reading ---
'Flags of Our Fathers' by James Bradley.
It's all about the battle at Iwo Jima .
 
 
I haven't gotten too far in the book. It's tough to read because
it's a graphic description of the WWII battles in the Pacific.
 
 
But right there it was on page 58. Roosevelt 's speech to the nation ends in
'so help us God .'
 
 
The people who edited out that part of the speech when they engraved
it on the memorial could have fooled me. I was born after the war!
But they couldn't fool the people who were there.
Roosevelt 's words are engraved on their hearts.
 
 
Now I ask:
 
'WHO GAVE THEM THE RIGHT TO CHANGE THE WORDS OF OUR HISTORY?????????'
 
 
Send this around to your friends. People need to know before everyone forgets.

People today are trying to change the history of America by leaving God
out of it, but the truth is, God has been a part of this nation, since the beginning.
He still wants to be...and He always will be!
 
 
If you agree, pass this on and God Bless YOU!
 
If not, May God Forgive You! 
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vanagon40
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« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2015, 06:52:19 AM »

Not exactly factual.

SNOPES
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DIGGER
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« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2015, 07:14:47 AM »

This from the Wikopedia of the WW2 Memorial:

FDR's D-Day prayer[edit]On May 23, 2013, Senator Rob Portman introduced the World War II Memorial Prayer Act of 2013 (S. 1044; 113th Congress), a bill that would direct the United States Secretary of the Interior to install at the World War II memorial in the District of Columbia a suitable plaque or an inscription with the words that President Franklin D. Roosevelt prayed with the United States on June 6, 1944, the morning of D-Day.[23] The bill was opposed by the American Civil Liberties Union, the American Jewish Committee, Americans United for Separation of Church and State, the Hindu American Foundation, and the Interfaith Alliance.[24] Together the organizations argued that the bill "endorses the false notion that all veterans will be honored by a war memorial that includes a prayer proponents characterize as reflecting our country's 'Judeo-Christian heritage and values.'"[24] The organizations argued that "the memorial, as it currently stands, appropriately honors those who served and encompasses the entirety of the war" and was carefully created, so no additional elements, such as FDR's prayer, need to be added.[24] According to the organizations, "the effect of this bill, however, is to co-opt religion for political purposes, which harms the beliefs of everyone."[24] The bill passed in the United States Senate on June 5, 2014.[25]

In my opinion once again the will of the masses was thwarted by the very small minority of non believers.

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Hook#3287
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« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2015, 07:51:25 AM »

Whether or not you feel the quote should be there, don't let it stop you from visiting the ww2 memorial, it is truly moving.
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Big Rig
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« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2015, 08:35:46 AM »

I am not sure "So help me God" is a prayer....when I was a child (kid aka moron) my dad would tell me to do something followed by those words...and if I did not do as directed...I then prayed that he did not kill me...well..the belt was used very often growing up. I sort of look at those words more of a warning not a prayer...prayer is what you did if you did not heed the warning. IMHO. coolsmiley

I wonder when the needs of the few outweighed the needs of the many? I remember reading JFK speach, Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country...it seems that today we have it backwards.... Cry
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vanagon40
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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2015, 10:41:38 AM »

This from the Wikopedia of the WW2 Memorial:

FDR's D-Day prayer[edit]On May 23, 2013, Senator Rob Portman introduced the World War II Memorial Prayer Act of 2013 (S. 1044; 113th Congress), a bill that would direct the United States Secretary of the Interior to install at the World War II memorial in the District of Columbia a suitable plaque or an inscription with the words that President Franklin D. Roosevelt prayed with the United States on June 6, 1944, the morning of D-Day.[23] The bill was opposed by the American Civil Liberties Union, the American Jewish Committee, Americans United for Separation of Church and State, the Hindu American Foundation, and the Interfaith Alliance.[24] Together the organizations argued that the bill "endorses the false notion that all veterans will be honored by a war memorial that includes a prayer proponents characterize as reflecting our country's 'Judeo-Christian heritage and values.'"[24] The organizations argued that "the memorial, as it currently stands, appropriately honors those who served and encompasses the entirety of the war" and was carefully created, so no additional elements, such as FDR's prayer, need to be added.[24] According to the organizations, "the effect of this bill, however, is to co-opt religion for political purposes, which harms the beliefs of everyone."[24] The bill passed in the United States Senate on June 5, 2014.[25]

In my opinion once again the will of the masses was thwarted by the very small minority of non believers.



Whether you believe that a prayer should or should not be placed on the memorial, I completely fail to see how "the will of the masses was thwarted by the very small minority of non believers."  The bill was passed despite the opposition.  Am I missing something?

As an aside, a person opposing the placement of a prayer on a national monument (or the placement of the Ten Commandments on the court house lawn) is not necessarily a "non believer."

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