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Posting here to get opinions on a topic that has me twisted in the head and no clear answers.
Been reading about Jewish folks leaving France, and now England, due to a rise in antisemitism and crimes commited against Jews that go unanswered.
My opinion is that in today's technology age, people move around for many reasons including escaping high taxes or a warmer climate to name a couple. I feel that the safety and security of a person and their family is more important. We all can't be a William Wallace and if someone doesn't feel safe, or feel they can rely on the state for protection, why not go where you can feel safe?
After expressing my thoughts, I received a pretty good reply........ Jewish exodus from Europe means antisemitism wins.
I can't say I disagree with that statement, but .......... Should your kids be picked on or beaten up to fight prejudice? I do see the BIG picture and that standing up to prejudice is the only way to yadda, yadda, yadda. But again, we no longer live in a world where people are born and die in the same house or village. Many have the luxury of choice these days. So, why shouldn't they at least try to offer themselves and family a chance at a "less stressful" life.
Another little tidbit that added to my reasoning....antisemitism has been around for thousands of years. Something that old and still that pervasive in the world doesn't seem like it's going to lose the war any time soon.
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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2015, 08:47:23 AM » |
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I'm sure if it was me I would move also. But it is a shame because I imagine that's what the haters desire.
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I have a feeling its not the hatred of Jews in the UK that's the real issue. I didn't sense that the British people were anti Semitic when I was stationed there. I would think the real problem its the failure to eradicate radical muslims from Europe and the UK. We will have the same problems if we let them increase here too.
We need to call them what they are target them and get rid of them in high numbers until they crawl back under their rocks and leave the rest of us alone.
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But it is a shame because I imagine that's what the haters desire.
Actually, not really... If all the Jews up and left, they'd just have to pick a new target to take their frustrations of inadequacy out on...
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I understand your feelings that they should stand up to the bullies but on the other hand in the end times God calls them back to their own land. There are many reasons for this happening in their personal lives but if God puts the desire in their hearts then it will happen. Just like in 48 Israel became a nation, it was formed by many people for many reasons but it happened. Just as God said, He also said they would speak their own language and that has never in history happened before. Where a people returned to their own land and spoke their own language. Returning to your own land has only happened 3 other times. Like you said there are many reasons people make decisions but God said it would happen and it has and is. That is the real reason regardless of seeming causes. Nothing in the Mid East speaks of logic but when you start to view it in light of what God has said it makes perfect sense.
Exodus was God calling His people back what a awesome thought, that He heard their cries and delivered them. How did a Jew get to be number 2 man in Egypt at a time when Pharaoh gave a command that all Jewish children were to be killed. If we lived in that time we would have never seen it coming but through circumstances God did miracles only to be seen looking back. All who fit into Gods plans were not Jews and each acted on their own reasons. He will never forget His people just as He has not forgotten each one of us.
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« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2015, 08:55:29 AM » |
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I understand your feelings that they should stand up to the bullies but on the other hand in the end times God calls them back to their own land. There are many reasons for this happening in the personal lives but if God puts the desire in their hearts then it will happen. Just like in 48 Israel became a nation, it was formed by many people for many reasons but it happened. Just as God said, He also said they would speak their own language and that has never in history happened before. Where a people returned to their own land and spoke their own language. Returning to your own land has only happened 3 other times. Like you said there are many reasons people make decisions but God said it would happen and it has and is. That is the real reason regardless of seeming causes.
So anti-Semites are tools of God ?
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I have a feeling its not the hatred of Jews in the UK that's the real issue. I didn't sense that the British people were anti Semitic when I was stationed there. I would think the real problem its the failure to eradicate radical muslims from Europe and the UK. We will have the same problems if we let them increase here too.
We need to call them what they are target them and get rid of them in high numbers until they crawl back under their rocks and leave the rest of us alone.
I agree with you Jeff, but unfortunately it seems England is incapable of protecting its citizens, so it does become their problem as well. England, and the rest of Europe experimented with people's lives with the open borders, etc. Now what? Can't go back. And I love that I got 5 great replies within 10 minutes of posting.
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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2015, 09:04:35 AM » |
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http://global100.adl.org/1/4 of the world's population surveyed between 2013 and 2014 harbor antisemitic feelings. What a shitty topic. Sorry for the heaviness, Brothers.
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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2015, 09:21:28 AM » |
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Don't think its a shitty topic at all. I've never really understood the reason for anti-semitism. It seems there is so little differences between American, European Christians and Jews.
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I understand your feelings that they should stand up to the bullies but on the other hand in the end times God calls them back to their own land. There are many reasons for this happening in the personal lives but if God puts the desire in their hearts then it will happen. Just like in 48 Israel became a nation, it was formed by many people for many reasons but it happened. Just as God said, He also said they would speak their own language and that has never in history happened before. Where a people returned to their own land and spoke their own language. Returning to your own land has only happened 3 other times. Like you said there are many reasons people make decisions but God said it would happen and it has and is. That is the real reason regardless of seeming causes.
So anti-Semites are tools of God ? Just as you cannot mention Jesus, or we see the society as a whole trying to water down and separate society from that name and teaching we see antisemitism today. The God of the Jews is the same God as the Christians but the god of the Muslims is the one that is in the world today and is totally different from the Jew and Christian God. Each has a choice on his or her own personal actions, but if you want to go further God knew and foretold what would happen. If you wanted to break down the whole conflict and antisemitism into the simplest of terms it breaks down to different fathers, jealousy, control.
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« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2015, 09:56:31 AM » |
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I was not there in ancient times but one reason I was given as a child for antisemites to exist is that a people who continue to speak (privately not in commerce) a separate language, observe holidays and customs and observe rules regarding eating are easily identifiable and thus easy for a ruler or a person who wants to rule to blame for any real or perceived ill whether economic or otherwise. It goes back to Amelek during Exodus, continues with Hamen in the ancient story of Purim ( Jews given carte blanche to kill those who have ordered them killed after King realizes his wife is jewish and he has been tricked into giving an order to kill them all) In olden times around passover blood libels would be passed by the church in which jewish people would be accused of killing children to drink their blood on passover and of course the old standby Jews killed Jesus, himself a Jew ( I am not saying a person cant believe he is the son of God here, just that he was also a Jew) I have friends who were taught this so it is still part of theology in some branches of the churches here. This Pope is moving away from that as did the last Pope. The inquisition/ the middle ages were not good times Jews were expelled from Spain and I think also England and Portugal at the request of the church which confiscated the lands and money Around the time of Maimonedes it was possible for Jews to coexist with Moslems, but that passed as the crusades one after another laid waste to the mediteranean region and much of europe as well I loved what this woman has to say in response https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry3NzkAOo3sIts about how "most people are peaceful" is a bullshit head in the sand response ChrisJ and myself agree on this particular issue, we have been at war, we are under attack I feel sorry for a million Jews and Christians in Ukraine who had to leave their homes and the Jews under seige in France, a country ever unable to find its ass with both hands An armed populace is able to defend itself is a clear lesson lost on most of the world. However unlike the USA, other countries are divided amongst themselves and have no inclination to act against the threat of islamization of their country. There is no JDL in France, or anywhere these days a pity I am also sad for millions of christians and jews butchered in the mideast over the last 4 decades while the world sits back and does nothing. We need a President with the balls *that would exclude Hillary and the POTUS in office now* to protect our security and call the jihad for what it is, an attack on any thing not Shahira and not the brand of Islam of the day But I would not expect a man who says he will stand with Moslems to defend Jews or Christians and cant figure out those who refuse to acknowledge Potus' words and deeds for what they are
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« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2015, 10:08:21 AM » |
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I have a feeling its not the hatred of Jews in the UK that's the real issue. I didn't sense that the British people were anti Semitic when I was stationed there. I would think the real problem its the failure to eradicate radical muslims from Europe and the UK. We will have the same problems if we let them increase here too.
We need to call them what they are target them and get rid of them in high numbers until they crawl back under their rocks and leave the rest of us alone.
Exactly. What is happening now is what happened prior to WWII. Only the date has changed....and instead of Nazis we now have muslims doing the same thing. It's not letting antisemitism win, it's survival and letting good people with really big guns take out the bad guys. The only difference this time is that the bad guys don't ware uniforms.
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« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2015, 10:10:18 AM » |
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Christianity must also be overthrown because it is based on Jewish sources the rule of Jesus must come to an end because only the rule of force is right in the world order of the axis powers the individual has no rights he has no freedom except in so far as he serves the state there will be no liberty of thought or conscience all issues will be decided by the state and the private citizen will have no right to an opinion men will be drafted like slaves into the service of the state
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Today besides the court battles to take Christianity out of the US each month 322 Christians are killed for their faith, 214 churches and Christian properties are destroyed and 722 forms of violence against Christians are committed not a small number so while it seems that antisemitism is on the rise so are the atrocities against Christians also.
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« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2015, 10:36:32 AM » |
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One side of my family escaped the persecution of the Jews in Germany in the early 1700s. They went to England and then came to the New Land in the 1730s. I would welcome the French Jews here if they chose to come. My family was looking for a new place that was free to chose and safe from persecution.
Maybe the newcomers will be safe here for another generation or two, but I'm not so sure of that the way things are going in this country now.
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« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2015, 10:36:50 AM » |
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..........so while it seems that antisemitism is on the rise so are the atrocities against Christians also.
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I'll stand with OSS. The big problem is that in UK,France, et al they dont have the means of self defence. The muzzies know this and its a bad guy free for all. They just havent figured out how to do it here yet. Dont think the toe isnt in the water.
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« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2015, 12:27:57 PM » |
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I'll stand with OSS. The big problem is that in UK,France, et al they dont have the means of self defence. The muzzies know this and its a bad guy free for all. They just havent figured out how to do it here yet. Dont think the toe isnt in the water.
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That is CORRECT!!!!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Theyre trying to do sharia tribunals in Texas,,,TEXAS!!! Detroitastan is nowhere to go. They'll out-law us with our own laws. HAHA, we thought it was bad when the perp had more rights than the victim, that aint nuthin. Private sales and a box a week. Remember, its perfectly acceptable to lie and cajole an infidel to get what you want in the long run.
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« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2015, 02:18:02 PM » |
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This son of bitch can't even say that a muslim targeted Jews in a Jewish deli. Oh well....it's just some random folks. Nothin' to see here....keep moving along.
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They have a camp(s) here in the Ozarks. They are not as open here as they are around Motor City-YET. What they WILL have to TRY to overcome here in the Sho Me is NOT only C C W-BUT open carry as well. And I would add-if you believe we are NOT at war here you DO NOT grasp what is going on. At this point in time I'm not hollerin-wolf-BUT I am as well prepared as I can be. When some folks make mention of "red necks" they chuckle a bit. That's O K-BUT I will say this-I'm cursed proud to NOT only live amongst them-I'm proud they consider me one. Don't want to get too far off topic but if you're after my LORD and SAVIOR you're after me too! Evan and the rest of ya'll that "git it" I'd stand side by side with ya'll and be proud I did.  RIDE SAFE.
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They have a camp(s) here in the Ozarks. They are not as open here as they are around Motor City-YET. What they WILL have to TRY to overcome here in the Sho Me is NOT only C C W-BUT open carry as well. And I would add-if you believe we are NOT at war here you DO NOT grasp what is going on. At this point in time I'm not hollerin-wolf-BUT I am as well prepared as I can be. When some folks make mention of "red necks" they chuckle a bit. That's O K-BUT I will say this-I'm cursed proud to NOT only live amongst them-I'm proud they consider me one. Don't want to get too far off topic but if you're after my LORD and SAVIOR you're after me too! Evan and the rest of ya'll that "git it" I'd stand side by side with ya'll and be proud I did.  RIDE SAFE.
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On B F post-here in CASE you missed it they NEVER said mooslim terrorists. NEVER NOT ONCE. AND they NEVER mentioned that JEWISH people were executed. What ever they are paying either one of them is way too much! HOW cursed LONG did those speech creators work to skirt the TRUE issue at hand? The whole cursed time I listened to both of those vids I had this vomit taste/feel in the back of my throat. This is for deception central-NOT the members-well most of this board-MOOSLIM TERRORISTS-THAT'S the word/description that needs to be utilized. Or are we talking about lord voltemort here?  RIDE SAFE.
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Without intending to, he actually made a point. Mooslums don't give a rat's ass about getting along with anyone...in fact, they want everyone else to disappear except for them and their sharia law utopia. btw....I like this version much better. Wonder where you can get one? 
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Vera vera happy to like coexist. It's when they TRY to take me out of the coexistent sphere that the problems-for them-WILL commence. I'm a peace lovin guy. Fought my war tween 1964 and 1968. But push come to shove-I ain't forgot my training. I see these sorry assed sumbitches tryin to take MY/OUR Country down and I'm getting a lot P Od and our spineless worthless S O B in charge keeps kowtowing to the very people that are trying to put us-America as we know Her-outa business. Makes one and me wonder if the fix is TOO far in? RIDE SAFE.
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I really shouldn't laugh at someone getting beat up, but... the irony of this one is almost too much... Sure hope he learned his lesson about the ability to "coexist" with certain ways of thinking... When I see one of the "Coexist" bumper sticker the thought that crosses my mind is that the owner knows very little of the religious cultures to which he refers. 
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I really shouldn't laugh at someone getting beat up, but... the irony of this one is almost too much... Sure hope he learned his lesson about the ability to "coexist" with certain ways of thinking... When I see one of the "Coexist" bumper sticker the thought that crosses my mind is that the owner knows very little of the religious cultures to which he refers.  Correct about this but also is insulting, judgmental, misinformed, and the ones leading the country astray by not knowing the real truth about things. Just as he paid for his misinformation by a beating he will also pay for other things in his life but I hope these type do not drag the rest of us with them.
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« Reply #29 on: February 11, 2015, 08:09:24 AM » |
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I think Chris said it well "I have a feeling its not the hatred of Jews in the UK that's the real issue. I didn't sense that the British people were anti Semitic when I was stationed there. I would think the real problem its the failure to eradicate radical muslims from Europe and the UK. We will have the same problems if we let them increase here too." From what I can tell the anti-Semitism is not from the general populace. It's from the radical immigrants and they get the press coverage. Sadly their ranks are growing and very few (if any) stand up to them. We are well on the way to having the same problems here because political correctness will allow it and the press will spread it.
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I think Chris said it well "I have a feeling its not the hatred of Jews in the UK that's the real issue. I didn't sense that the British people were anti Semitic when I was stationed there. I would think the real problem its the failure to eradicate radical muslims from Europe and the UK. We will have the same problems if we let them increase here too." From what I can tell the anti-Semitism is not from the general populace. It's from the radical immigrants and they get the press coverage. Sadly their ranks are growing and very few (if any) stand up to them. We are well on the way to having the same problems here because political correctness will allow it and the press will spread it.
I really wish people would stop with this political correct crap. It's only radical or extremist to our civilized way of thinking. It's NOT radical. It's NOT extremist. It's simply islam being islam. It's what they do. It's in their book that they ALL follow. It's their instruction manual.
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I think Chris said it well "I have a feeling its not the hatred of Jews in the UK that's the real issue. I didn't sense that the British people were anti Semitic when I was stationed there. I would think the real problem its the failure to eradicate radical muslims from Europe and the UK. We will have the same problems if we let them increase here too." From what I can tell the anti-Semitism is not from the general populace. It's from the radical immigrants and they get the press coverage. Sadly their ranks are growing and very few (if any) stand up to them. We are well on the way to having the same problems here because political correctness will allow it and the press will spread it.
I really wish people would stop with this political correct crap. It's only radical or extremist to our civilized way of thinking. It's NOT radical. It's NOT extremist. It's simply islam being islam. It's what they do. It's in their book that they ALL follow. It's their instruction manual. Never say never.  I think the people we're fighting want us to hate all Muslims. I'm sure I don't want to do what they want. -Mike
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When this latest group of Gypsies get packin out of the USA the better ; Hollywood turned into an orgy cesspool, Federal Reserve bankrupted the USA , Congress overrun by the disease. all 90 % owned.
Get lost SCUMBAG.
Of course the VRCC crowd is almost like a rat Harley crowd in intelligence , what else is new.
almost a circle jerk anymore.
No moderators? wtf
forget about it and grab a couple more beers, you'll be asleep soon
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take personal responsibility and keep your word
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« Reply #35 on: February 11, 2015, 05:06:43 PM » |
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When this latest group of Gypsies get packin out of the USA the better ; Hollywood turned into an orgy cesspool, Federal Reserve bankrupted the USA , Congress overrun by the disease. all 90 % owned.
Get lost SCUMBAG.
Of course the VRCC crowd is almost like a rat Harley crowd in intelligence , what else is new.
almost a circle jerk anymore.
No moderators? wtf
Dude, I don't understand 1/2 of what you say usually. Are you saying you want the Jews to leave America because they are immoral ? And what is a rat Harley crowd ?
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« Reply #36 on: February 11, 2015, 05:48:39 PM » |
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When this latest group of Gypsies get packin out of the USA the better ; Hollywood turned into an orgy cesspool, Federal Reserve bankrupted the USA , Congress overrun by the disease. all 90 % owned.
Get lost SCUMBAG.
Of course the VRCC crowd is almost like a rat Harley crowd in intelligence , what else is new.
almost a circle jerk anymore.
No moderators? wtf
I apologize for making it personal, I really try to attack ideas and not people but, the whole time I was trying to read this, this movie clip kept playing in my head:
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Never ask a geek 'Why?',just nod your head and slowly back away...  IBA# 22107 VRCC# 7976 VRCCDS# 226 1998 Valkyrie Standard 2008 Gold Wing Taxation is theft. μολὼν λαβέ
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« Reply #37 on: February 11, 2015, 07:04:28 PM » |
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Weeder,
to whom are you referring as a Scumbag?
For myself, I have not met a better group of people anywhere than here, at the VRCC
Of course, I have actually taken the TIME to ACTUALLY meet many of these members break bread and ride over the last 13 years
How much effort have you taken to do the same
Oss
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If you don't know where your going any road will take you there George Harrison
When you come to the fork in the road, take it Yogi Berra (Don't send it to me C.O.D.)
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« Reply #38 on: February 11, 2015, 07:48:59 PM » |
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Weeder,
to whom are you referring as a Scumbag?
For myself, I have not met a better group of people anywhere than here, at the VRCC
Of course, I have actually taken the TIME to ACTUALLY meet many of these members break bread and ride over the last 13 years
How much effort have you taken to do the same
Oss
What my tall barrister friend said!  Only not fer 13 years HERE.  Evan-some folks ain't NEVER happy lessen they be stirrin da pot!  RIDE SAFE.
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Today is the tommorow you worried about yesterday. If at first you don't succeed screw it-save it for nite check. 1964 1968 U S Navy. Two cruises off Nam. VRCCDS0240 2012 GL1800 Gold Wing Motor Trike conversion
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« Reply #39 on: February 11, 2015, 09:25:57 PM » |
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I can't help about the shape I'm in I can't sing, I ain't pretty and my legs are thin But don't ask me what I think of you I might not give the answer that you want me to 
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