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Went on a benefit ride sponsored by Walmart. There was a bad wreck within the first mile. Was a big gap and the guy on the Harley decided to show how a Harley runs. Anyway once he realized the ones ahead was only running 20 miles per hour it was too late. Locked up his back brakes. Left 100 yards mark before hitting a sports bike rider. Harley rider broke his leg in 3 places. His wife broken wrist. Sport bike ride just sore. Pictures on facebook. Look up SouthernMississippi bikers. Forgot to mention Harley caught fire and burned up.
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« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2015, 08:30:47 AM » |
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This is why I ride alone for the most part. You never know what the other guy is going to do. The last time I rode with a group, the rider behind me rear ended me pulling away from a light. His excuse? "I didn't see you". Hmm... a 300 pound man on a massive blue, cream and chrome bike with a six cylinder engine breathing through dual open 4 inch truck stacks whose been riding DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF YOU for the last 2 HOURS is kinda hard to miss, don't you think???  Between that and seeing my father in law come within an inch (literally) of getting run down by a semi...I'm much happier by myself. Ride Safe, Alien |
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Patrick
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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2015, 09:05:03 AM » |
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I don't ride in large groups. When I ride with a small group, I'm in the rear.
People are people, its in our nature to do dumb things.
If someone does something stupid I don't want to be close.
If I do something stupid, I don't want anyone to be close.
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« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2015, 10:29:51 AM » |
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When I rode in groups, it was my family group only. Some newcomers to the ride are not safe especaily if they think that the front brake will throw them over the handlebar. I've ridden a few times with the VRCC group and the experience seems to be better, not so for some HD's riders.. Of course, this is MHO.
Most of the time I rode by myself because i was Solo1
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« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2015, 10:30:45 AM » |
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I don't ride in large groups. When I ride with a small group, I'm in the rear.
People are people, its in our nature to do dumb things.
If someone does something stupid I don't want to be close.
If I do something stupid, I want anyone to be close.
Here's the link https://www.facebook.com/southernmississippi.bikers.3?fref=tsI don't like riding in big groups also. What happened yesterday is why. This was my first on this ride and my last. If I'm home next year I will go and look at the bikes and donate money and go on my own ride. David |
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« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2015, 11:50:47 AM » |
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I don't ride in large groups. When I ride with a small group, I'm in the rear.
People are people, its in our nature to do dumb things.
If someone does something stupid I don't want to be close.
If I do something stupid, I want anyone to be close.
Here's the link https://www.facebook.com/southernmississippi.bikers.3?fref=tsI don't like riding in big groups also. What happened yesterday is why. This was my first on this ride and my last. If I'm home next year I will go and look at the bikes and donate money and go on my own ride. David Did one Ride for Kids. Another for an animal shelter. Never again. Too many unable to control a bike, riding up the pipe of the rider ahead. Dumb asses enmasse. |
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« Reply #6 on: May 31, 2015, 12:14:57 PM » |
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Went on a Christmas toys 4 tots run once. Three bikes piled up within the first 1/2 mile. One of the riders was a very small woman on a very large bike. That was my first and last toys 4 tots run.
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« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2015, 01:06:52 PM » |
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Went on a Christmas toys 4 tots run once. Three bikes piled up within the first 1/2 mile. One of the riders was a very small woman on a very large bike. That was my first and last toys 4 tots run.
they usually happen within the first mile. David |
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« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2015, 02:26:57 PM » |
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This is a prime example of why I preach against rear braking. Sounds like he had ample room to stop if he knew how to ride
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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2015, 03:13:22 PM » |
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This is a prime example of why I preach against rear braking. Sounds like he had ample room to stop if he knew how to ride
Inexperience and stoopidity quickly show. |
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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2015, 07:02:00 PM » |
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I avoid charity rides as much as possible. They seem to draw the riders who only pull their bikes out for these rides. And slow group riding is not the place for them to be remembering how to ride.
If I'm in town and nothing else interferes, I will take the sidecar to the Ride for Kids. Sidecars ride in the front, and fewer sidecar riders seem to be problems.
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« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2015, 07:42:10 PM » |
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Couple weeks ago went on a "safety ride" sponsored by a Springfield Mo. law firm. Lets just say NOT gonna do dat next year. Far too many folks letting EVERYONE know just how LOUD their pipes are/were. AND far too many with ONLY rear braking. RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2015, 04:37:26 AM » |
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Harley has nothing to do with it. Just a guy showing his ass that took somebody with him in his stupidity.
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« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2015, 07:36:55 AM » |
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Up date on the Harley rider. Had 3 rods put in his leg. Lot of pain and up on it. I guess on crutches.
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« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2015, 09:59:42 AM » |
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One of the local motorcycle clubs down here called the Asgard do a huge toy run every year around Christmas. I almost never go but I went last year to hang out before the ride. I left right before the ride started but my friend called me later and told me about what happened.
It was the exact same thing. A guy on a custom Harley (mild chopper) decided to do the same thing. Throttle up, brake too hard, slid it into a ditch. That was about two blocks from the starting point of the toy run.
I've never felt like I've missed anything by not participating in huge events like that.
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« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2015, 10:47:38 AM » |
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 panic is real ... ??? it will get you serious hurt ... k e e p your distance ...  another one bites the dust .... 
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« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2015, 12:25:52 PM » |
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Harley has nothing to do with it. Just a guy showing his ass that took somebody with him in his stupidity.
Harley has something to do with it. For some reason its the Harley riders that usually have an aversion to using front brakes. Im not in the position to speculate why, just an observation that most all the riders I have observed that favor the rear brake to a fault are Harley riders |
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« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2015, 12:39:18 PM » |
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Harley has something to do with it. For some reason its the Harley riders that usually have an aversion to using front brakes. Im not in the position to speculate why, just an observation that most all the riders I have observed that favor the rear brake to a fault are Harley riders
I think it has to do with WHEN folks learned to ride ... my first husband taught me to ride in the 70s, and he taught me to never use the front brake. He rode only Hondas ...... I took the Beginner riding course 25 years later and learned to ride "right" No one I talked with back then used front brakes, including a BMW riding friend. |
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« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2015, 12:52:55 PM » |
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I'm with Chris. I believe that using only the rear brake is much more popular with Harley riders than any other group. I've also observed that generally if a Harley rider is wearing a helmet, he also has not messed with his mufflers. My second bike, a 1946 Matchless, had drum brakes. I learned in a damn fast hurry that the front brake, even with drum brakes, did most of the stopping work. I actually knew that before that. I installed a front brake on my Whizzer motorbike. That's my story and I'm stuck with it.  |
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« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2015, 01:07:36 PM » |
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You would think after riding a little that people would figure out the front brake is more effective. Nobody taught me about the front brake but it doesn't take much riding to feel the difference.
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« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2015, 01:32:49 PM » |
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Went on a charity just yesterday for the Childrens Miracle Ride. It is a self guide tour. so I did what I always do get there early and be on of the 1st to ride the route. Nice no one in front no a holes behind no rubberband effect. Only 50 miles so at the end got my free t shirt. (not really free) but part of the donation . Then rode the route in reverse. Was Home by 3. Would have rode longer but hit some very heavy down pours with hail so made a bee line for home. Still able to squeeze in 210 miles
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« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2015, 02:33:26 PM » |
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Doesn't matter what your ride, accidents, some preventable, can happen. Biggest issue for me in any group ride is keeping your distance from the other riders, especially into corners. I am guilty of following too close and having to really apply both brakes very hard several times when the fellow Valk rider in front of me was going SUPER slow into the turns and I am not hard nor fast going into the corners. He was just for his ability doing what he felt was reasonable speed which may or may not be the norm.
A few times if not paying too much attention, I could've rear ended him if not applying both brakes pretty hard before cornering. Problem is this causes a chain reaction and you never know in a group ride if someone is behind you too close as well.
I prefer the back of the pack to go at my own pace, but usually get caught in the middle since some riders are super, scary fast and should be in the front while a few others ride slower than me. 2 group rides I went on was so spaced out amongst say 15-20 riders that there was well over 1 mile gap from front rider to back rider with me playing the middle 1/2 way in between but closer to the back for the much slower riders to hopefully see me so they don't get lost since couldn't see them at times. That is when the lead riders should STOP and let the slow ones catch up some.
Our local small town cycle ride each year for our 'summerfest hometown' celebration in July I won't go on. My HD rider neighbor has done it a few times (99% HD's) and after a tragic crash and drunken riders, he said NEVER again.
I prefer small 2-7ish cycle group rides who I know are equal and probably more experienced and mostly faster riders than me so I can be in the back of the pack and keep up fine, but not get that close to any of them.
I do the same driving a car trying to NOT be around anyone in front, behind, or the side of me if at all possible mostly country rural road driving.
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« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2015, 11:05:10 AM » |
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Harley has nothing to do with it. Just a guy showing his ass that took somebody with him in his stupidity.
Harley has something to do with it. For some reason its the Harley riders that usually have an aversion to using front brakes. Im not in the position to speculate why, just an observation that most all the riders I have observed that favor the rear brake to a fault are Harley riders Must be I missed that boat? I use the front equal to and sometimes more than the back. Depends on the situation? Even on my Harley's and especially on my Valk due to the size and weight. My Ultra and my Springer I ride the same way. |
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« Reply #23 on: June 02, 2015, 11:41:50 AM » |
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Come on folks, how can one expect anyone to use a throttle and lever at the same time.  Brake pads cost money so why wear out more than one set. ??? I know someone will take me seriously, don't. |
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