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Author Topic: Watched a Youtube video installing a powercommand module in a 2014 Valk.  (Read 784 times)
John Schmidt
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a/k/a Stuffy. '99 I/S Valk Roadsmith Trike

De Pere, WI (Green Bay)


« on: June 30, 2015, 08:36:24 AM »

It solidified my decision to stay with my 1st gen. '98. It took the tech two days short of forever just to get everything off so he could install the module, and the module is plug'n play. Absolutely ridiculous....at least to my eyes. Had to remove the seats, remove side covers, remove some more panels around the radiators, then remove some more panels around the radiators, then remove even more panels. Once he got all that crap off, had to pull the tank....and you thought removing the tanks on the early Valk was involved. Then remove what essentially is the airbox, a multi-faceted step. And he hasn't even started to install the power module. Good grief, that bike will be a major PITA to work on, and to think he still has to spend more time putting most of it back together jsut to see if it works. For me, I don't care how great it handles, how great it runs, or how great the power is compared to the original. I need to be able to work on a bike and accomplish the task in one day.

One thing in it's favor.....I understand it's real easy to change the rear tire.  Cheesy
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hubcapsc
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« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2015, 09:04:16 AM »


I used the manual and the power commander youtube video as guides
when I took off my tank.



On my classic Valkyrie, to get under the airbox, I would remove the seats
and tank. The airboxes are similar to each other. If I needed to get to
wiring at the same time I'd uncover the battery and remove the side
panels. The radiator wouldn't be in the way on the classic valkyrie,
but other than that it is not that much different.

I had to stumble around with those new push-pin plastic-cover
fasteners but new stuff always involves some kind of learning
curve...

The new Valkyrie doesn't seem too hard to work on, but I'd rather
change the throttle cable on an old Valkyrie than a new one.

-Mike

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Reb
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« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2015, 12:46:56 PM »

You think thats bad?

Watch the one for the Goldwings
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mrtappan
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« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2015, 02:31:44 PM »

Ha.  Yeah, that's way harder than dealing with six carbs.

No, wait.  Its not..........
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« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2015, 05:25:32 PM »

six carbs are easy, remove, rebuild, put back on the bike and sync in a couple hours working slow with a beer in your hand if you choose.

Saying that because I have done it (had expert help)
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mrtappan
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« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2015, 06:36:00 PM »

If that's your thing.  I'd still rather put an "install and forget" Power Commander on once that requires zero maintenance and allows nearly infinite adjustment for any setup.  Easily tunable with the module on the bike requiring minimum effort.

A way better way than..... "Is this jet right?  Oops, bogging down.  Let's pull the carbs again"  But that's just me, the lover of modern technology and nonsupporter of yesteryear technology.  I also wouldn't let the one time installation of an optional item turn me off of a bike.  I'd just wait until I had to be under the tank, like for an air filter change, and do it all at once. 
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« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2015, 06:52:43 PM »

If that's your thing.  I'd still rather put an "install and forget" Power Commander on once that requires zero maintenance and allows nearly infinite adjustment for any setup.  Easily tunable with the module on the bike requiring minimum effort.

A way better way than..... "Is this jet right?  Oops, bogging down.  Let's pull the carbs again"  But that's just me, the lover of modern technology and nonsupporter of yesteryear technology.  I also wouldn't let the one time installation of an optional item turn me off of a bike.  I'd just wait until I had to be under the tank, like for an air filter change, and do it all at once.  

Ah, you have several mistaken conceptions about how much 'ongoing' work the carbs need Smiley Jet at factory specs, sync one time. Leave it for years.... No worries though. I suspect your mind has been made up for awhile and I feel no need to change it.

Notice I have not bashed the 1800's Cheers
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John Schmidt
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« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2015, 08:18:51 PM »

If that's your thing.  I'd still rather put an "install and forget" Power Commander on once that requires zero maintenance and allows nearly infinite adjustment for any setup.  Easily tunable with the module on the bike requiring minimum effort.

A way better way than..... "Is this jet right?  Oops, bogging down.  Let's pull the carbs again"  But that's just me, the lover of modern technology and nonsupporter of yesteryear technology.  I also wouldn't let the one time installation of an optional item turn me off of a bike.  I'd just wait until I had to be under the tank, like for an air filter change, and do it all at once.  

Ah, you have several mistaken conceptions about how much 'ongoing' work the carbs need Smiley Jet at factory specs, sync one time. Leave it for years.... No worries though. I suspect your mind has been made up for awhile and I feel no need to change it.

Notice I have not bashed the 1800's Cheers
Same with me, by no means am I bashing the new Valk and its owners. I was only stating that it's too much work to do a minor job, but it was on my '92 Wing back when. That's the main reason I got rid of it for the Valk. As for the six carbs on my '98 Tourer, I made one change on the slow jets and one change on the petcock. I then sync'd the carbs and haven't touched them since. That was years ago, it has more performance than I'll ever use and when I need to work on it there's little I can't do in less than a day....barring interruptions.  Wink
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« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2015, 08:44:03 PM »

I find that the less stuff I change on the original bike, the less I have to fix. cooldude
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mrtappan
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« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2015, 09:41:33 PM »

I find that the less stuff I change on the original bike, the less I have to fix. cooldude

As far as bolt on stuff, I've never noticed a difference in the bike breaking down more often.  Now that Victory I owned with cams, timing wheel, etc...... never been more true.  

Also, not liking carbs has nothing specifically to do with the old Valkyrie.  I just don't like carbs and prefer fuel injection.  Although carbs is the main reason I never bought an old Valkyrie.  There were just too many other fuel injected bikes out there with similar performance so owning one wasn't a priority.  I haven't owned a carbed bike since 2005 excluding toys (like a KLR650) but that's just a personal choice.
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