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dreamaker
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« on: September 27, 2015, 10:40:24 AM »

I have a concern, about these Dogbane Leaf Eating Beetles, cute looking but seem ferocious to plants.  I have read a little about them and they mainly eat, mate and live on the Dogbane Hemp plant, and also the Milk Weed is their habitat.  I live in a relaxed subdivision, and on the backyard fences I let the grape vines grow like a natural privacy fence.  Also this year I grew some veggies and leafy plants in large planter containers.  For some reason these Dogbane Beetles just went nuts on the grape leaves, radish leaves and my Sorrel leaves.  Looked like someone had a shot gun and shot up holes in the leaves, for what little I read I don’t understand why.   They are not considered pests, because they don’t normally ever bother veggies or editable plants. But in my backyard I don’t see it that way. Anyone have any experience with these, also does anyone have a safe, earth friendly pesticide for editable veggies and plants?





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« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2015, 10:51:15 AM »

They sure are shiney bugs  cooldude Wait a minute ! You say they go after hemp plants ? We've got to kill them bastards before they destroy our crop  Grin
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« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2015, 11:03:59 AM »

            "  earth friendly pesticide for editable veggies and plants? "
 have you tried an internet search ?           ???    Undecided    coolsmiley



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« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2015, 11:07:40 AM »

That sure looks like the common Japanese beetle to me. Everyone has to put up with those damn things.
If you have grubs in your yard, them thar things are the critters.
The only way I can get rid of [ well there is no getting rid of them] them is to spread insecticide [ which I don't like to use but have to] just before they hatch in mid summer. I spread the stuff just before a good rain.
I also use traps, and, they are usually full within a week.




Hmmm, don't know about any 'cousins' except maybe June bugs, but, I think they get treated the same. If you just want spray them with something fairly non-toxic then Neem oil should work.
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dreamaker
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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2015, 12:32:26 PM »

That sure looks like the common Japanese beetle to me. Everyone has to put up with those damn things.
If you have grubs in your yard, them thar things are the critters.
The only way I can get rid of [ well there is no getting rid of them] them is to spread insecticide [ which I don't like to use but have to] just before they hatch in mid summer. I spread the stuff just before a good rain.
I also use traps, and, they are usually full within a week.

They are cousins of the Japanese Beetles, odd thing is they are not suppose to go after other plants.

Thanks John, that is helpful. I tried hot sauce and water, but I didn't check back to see if it worked.

Not only am I concerned with toxins in my system, its getting parasites in our bodies, not sure if you can get them by eating larvae and eggs on greens and veggies.  But the do exist in some humans, and they don't even know it, and I am not talking about tape worms either.  I was watching this program with this doctor, and he explained about a patent that had some ailment, and when he took his interment and looked in her eye, he could see worm like insects in her eye. That grossed me out!!
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« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2015, 02:49:32 PM »

Back in my maternal grandfather's day (which is way back, as he was 80 when I was born), he kept a bottle of tincture of nicotine - tobacco extract. Seems nicotine in its natural form is a pretty good repellent and a mild insecticide, which is why many modern insecticides are are based on it - so-called 'neonics', for neonicotinoids. The new ones are like Round-up for bugs, way to strong and easily spread, and indiscriminate. Real nicotine, if you can find it, mostly just sickens the leaf-eaters, and kills aphids and other smaller species.
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dreamaker
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« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2015, 04:30:28 PM »

What about, a Vape shop, don't they use liquid nicotine in the electronic cigarettes.
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« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2015, 06:27:29 PM »

In relatively low concentrations. A 'natural' plant shop would be where I would start asking - or an on-line search.
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« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2015, 07:00:19 PM »

Thank You all for your help!!! Will be doing some looking, maybe not for this season, but for next. Odd thing I have been living here for about 25yrs, and have never seen that before.  Last year, not one bug.
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« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2015, 02:28:34 PM »

If they are cousins of the Japanese beetle they will be a 24 carat cast iron **** to get rid of.

Japanese beetles love wild grape. I had to tear it all out, try that sometime.   I also used those pheromone traps, shouldn't have done that. I collected beetles in a plastic garbage bags.  I started a fire in a 55 gallon drum (legal back then) and then threw the bag in to burn their wings first so they couldn't fly out.

One very bad year that 55 gallon drum was 3/4 filled with burned Japanese beetles.  Standard insecticides do not kill them and birds don't eat them.  Recommended treatment by Purdue was pluck them one by one by hand and throw them into a pan of water that has a film of oil on top.  Along with that treat the whole lawn with a fungus insecticide which kills the Japanese beetle grubs in the ground.  THAT takes a couple of seasons.

Good luck with their cousins.
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