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dreamaker
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« on: October 22, 2015, 10:44:15 AM »

Has anyone installed an aftermarket stereo in a new vehicle, you think straightening out a home computer is bad, a car is worst.  You don't have allot of room to work in, specially with my big ass and can't bend and twist like I use to. Body will pay for it tomorrow when I wake up, I'll feel like train hit me. They sure don't make it easy for us old buzzards.
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solo1
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« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2015, 12:12:33 PM »

From what I've seen and heard, it is almost impossible to do so because of the electronic circuitry that the radio shares with the operation of the car's computer (s).

The big improvement in standard car radios today is enough for me.
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dreamaker
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« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2015, 01:16:36 PM »

There is a few companies that make modules and additional harness so you don't have to splice into the OEM wiring, just plug into to the OEM harness.  The modules makes it compatible with the system, so you don't lose or interfere with any OEM functions.
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« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2015, 03:37:32 PM »

We did it but had it installed at the place we bought it.  Wanted a backup camera plus XM radio and navigation in a 2013 Honda Fit.
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« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2015, 04:11:16 PM »

The physical contortions are painful. The mental contortions are maybe worse! My Sienna van Nav/Radio died and Toyota wants over $4000 for a replacement. Aint' gonna' happen. I put in a new Clarion and had to interface to the steering wheel, the oddball 6-volt backup camera, the factory XM antenna, the rear seat entertainment system, replace the digital amplifier behind the glove box, and create a mixer to blend in the center speaker and "twiddlers" (Bose made these up). It cost about $650 and was a struggle for sure. $4000 for a new radio; are they kidding - It's not even chrome!!
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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2015, 04:37:22 PM »

Try replacing the system on a Gold Wing.. cooldude My F6B is all after market now. It was an adventure, but boy my system jams.
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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2015, 04:42:48 PM »

Your right about the physical and mental contortions, Going to take a good dose of turmeric.  I ended up with a Kenwood DNX572BH has and does everything except, put me to bed, also I used the Metra/AXXESS interfaces, so everything is AOK, can use all my OEM steering wheel controls.
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« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2015, 05:01:55 PM »

If anyone makes it easy, it's Crutchfield. They sell install kits and include instructions for your vehicle.
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dreamaker
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« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2015, 05:20:13 PM »

Another good place with good prices and service is, Sonic Electronix.

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/
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« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2015, 05:56:08 PM »

Try  crutchfield electronics. They have everything you will need to replace your current system. From stereo, to speakers to wiring harness. They also can walk you through it. Quality equipment with great customer service. Good luck.
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« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2015, 07:07:53 PM »

The unit is usually not the problem for me, but the stock speakers on most mid-level trim vehicles are crap and even on normal bass,  BOING and rattle inside the door pockets on normal to low volume levels. 

Pretty sad when upgraded BOSE speaker system on new vehicles thru mfg. buying say new off the lot costs say 600 bucks on up JUST for an upgraded speaker set (say 6 or 8 speakers with amp, etc. vs. stock 4 crappy speakers). 
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« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2015, 07:14:32 PM »

In another life in a galaxy far far away.

I used to drive a Reliant Robin van as a teen ager. Hey I had wheels when most didn't.

I fitted an 8 track to the front dash.

I mounted the speakers on thin blocks of wood which I then stuck (don't remember how) to the fiberglass wall of the van just behind the driver / passenger seats.

Honestly the sound was really good.

Everything from the 1812 overture to Deep Purple used to blast through the speakers.
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« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2015, 07:28:53 PM »

In another life in a galaxy far far away.

I used to drive a Reliant Robin van as a teen ager. Hey I had wheels when most didn't.

I fitted an 8 track to the front dash.

I mounted the speakers on thin blocks of wood which I then stuck (don't remember how) to the fiberglass wall of the van just behind the driver / passenger seats.

Honestly the sound was really good.

Everything from the 1812 overture to Deep Purple used to blast through the speakers.
I had to google it. That was one funky looking car. And they were fiberglass ? 8tracks really weren't too bad, but man those cartridges sure took up a lot of space. Almost had to have a suitcase sized organizer for them.  Shocked
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« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2015, 07:34:23 PM »

In another life in a galaxy far far away.

I used to drive a Reliant Robin van as a teen ager. Hey I had wheels when most didn't.

I fitted an 8 track to the front dash.

I mounted the speakers on thin blocks of wood which I then stuck (don't remember how) to the fiberglass wall of the van just behind the driver / passenger seats.

Honestly the sound was really good.

Everything from the 1812 overture to Deep Purple used to blast through the speakers.
I had to google it. That was one funky looking car. And they were fiberglass ? 8tracks really weren't too bad, but man those cartridges sure took up a lot of space. Almost had to have a suitcase sized organizer for them.  Shocked

After that I had an 750cc Bond Bug. Google that!

I'll save you the trouble.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bond_Bug?wasRedirected=true
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« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2015, 07:56:10 PM »

In another life in a galaxy far far away.

I used to drive a Reliant Robin van as a teen ager. Hey I had wheels when most didn't.

I fitted an 8 track to the front dash.

I mounted the speakers on thin blocks of wood which I then stuck (don't remember how) to the fiberglass wall of the van just behind the driver / passenger seats.

Honestly the sound was really good.

Everything from the 1812 overture to Deep Purple used to blast through the speakers.
I had to google it. That was one funky looking car. And they were fiberglass ? 8tracks really weren't too bad, but man those cartridges sure took up a lot of space. Almost had to have a suitcase sized organizer for them.  Shocked

After that I had an 750cc Bond Bug. Google that!

I'll save you the trouble.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bond_Bug?wasRedirected=true
I kind of like that one.  cooldude They weren't exactly premier engine builders though we're they ? 29hp from a 700cc  Shocked I think my Yamaha XS 750 had 68 hp.
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« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2015, 07:58:27 PM »

Oh boy, the Bond Bug and the Reliant Robin trumps my Morris Minor!  crazy2
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« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2015, 04:48:23 AM »

Oh boy, the Bond Bug and the Reliant Robin trumps my Morris Minor!  crazy2

I was once on the roof of a Morris Minor.

Laying spread-eagle as it tore around the perimeter of a parade ground at a local RAF station. Good job it had substantial rain channels along the edge of the roof.

We did about 3 laps before coming to our teenage senses.  uglystupid2
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« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2015, 06:31:14 AM »

I mounted quite a few 6x9 speakers in the trunk of my cars. Great boomy base just right for s### kickin' music from the AM radio stations.

I repaired a number of car radios that used a vibrator can to change the 6 volts DC to 6 volts Ac then sent the ac through a transformer to get the high voltage, then a rectifier circuit to get the ac converted to high voltage dc for the vacuum tube plates.  Results, a noisy vibrator can and hum from the speakers.  Just about two steps above a crystal radio set. Smiley

Those were not the golden days of car radios.
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« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2015, 06:37:11 AM »

I take pride in doing myself what many people pay others to do for them, but as Clint Eastwood said "A man's got to know his limitations..."

I was able to put an after market stereo in my first car, nothing as exciting as Britman's, mine was a 1976 Dodge Dart with the slant 6 engine and a 4 speed manual tranny, but I took a quick look at the factory setup on my modern car and decided nope, if I replace that one, I'm gonna hire a pro to handle it...

(And then decided that the factory setup wasn't all that bad anyway)
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dreamaker
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« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2015, 07:12:17 AM »

Well woke up this morning, with no muscle or joint aches from bending and twisting, due to installing the radio in my Focus, I guess the turmeric did is job. The age of connecting the red and black wire is in the past, but companies like Metra/AXXESS make it possible for us old buzzards to install a aftermarket radio in our four wheel micro processors. Pretty much plug and play, the only thing I had to do is solder the radio plug to the plug of the interface module.  The rest was a series of LED blinks and put the new trim on. This keeps the brain sharp!!!
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« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2015, 07:16:53 AM »

I mounted quite a few 6x9 speakers in the trunk of my cars. Great boomy base just right for s### kickin' music from the AM radio stations.

I repaired a number of car radios that used a vibrator can to change the 6 volts DC to 6 volts Ac then sent the ac through a transformer to get the high voltage, then a rectifier circuit to get the ac converted to high voltage dc for the vacuum tube plates.  Results, a noisy vibrator can and hum from the speakers.  Just about two steps above a crystal radio set. Smiley

Those were not the golden days of car radios.

Tubes,, I doubt many today even know what they are. A good vacum tube amp still gives the highest quality sound and yes,, you can still buy the tubes.
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« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2015, 10:45:57 AM »

I mounted quite a few 6x9 speakers in the trunk of my cars. Great boomy base just right for s### kickin' music from the AM radio stations.

I repaired a number of car radios that used a vibrator can to change the 6 volts DC to 6 volts Ac then sent the ac through a transformer to get the high voltage, then a rectifier circuit to get the ac converted to high voltage dc for the vacuum tube plates.  Results, a noisy vibrator can and hum from the speakers.  Just about two steps above a crystal radio set. Smiley

Those were not the golden days of car radios.

Tubes,, I doubt many today even know what they are. A good vacum tube amp still gives the highest quality sound and yes,, you can still buy the tubes.

They still use them in high end microphones, called tube mics and some instrument amplifiers have them.
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« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2015, 01:57:51 PM »

If anyone makes it easy, it's Crutchfield. They sell install kits and include instructions for your vehicle.

You beat me to it. I've put 5 different Alpine decks in as many vehicles, Crutchfield purchases all. They certainly make it easy...
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« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2015, 02:02:10 PM »

The Tube type radio in my old Plymouth took about a mile or so to warm up and be ready to rock. Could tune in about three stations. Can you imagine someone putting up with that today. 
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« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2015, 06:32:10 AM »

I mounted quite a few 6x9 speakers in the trunk of my cars. Great boomy base just right for s### kickin' music from the AM radio stations.

I repaired a number of car radios that used a vibrator can to change the 6 volts DC to 6 volts Ac then sent the ac through a transformer to get the high voltage, then a rectifier circuit to get the ac converted to high voltage dc for the vacuum tube plates.  Results, a noisy vibrator can and hum from the speakers.  Just about two steps above a crystal radio set. Smiley

Those were not the golden days of car radios.

Tubes,, I doubt many today even know what they are. A good vacum tube amp still gives the highest quality sound and yes,, you can still buy the tubes.

They still use them in high end microphones, called tube mics and some instrument amplifiers have them.
12AX7 and 6LQ6
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