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« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2015, 04:03:23 AM » |
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Nice looking outfit! Should work for many years, without a lot of fuss 
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« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2015, 04:05:49 AM » |
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Thats a nice looking setup. You're more than welcome to store that at my place ! I like all that new shiny orange and those new fangeled attachments.
Things change in 40 yrs. My orange is duller now and I have to hand load the bucket. So, yep, again, you can store that here anytime !
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« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2015, 04:15:35 AM » |
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That looks awesome  ... since I don't do that kind of work I'm confused about something: how can you fill a dump truck up with dirt or gravel when it has a flat bed? -Mike
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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2015, 04:18:53 AM » |
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That looks awesome  ... since I don't do that kind of work I'm confused about something: how can you fill a dump truck up with dirt or gravel when it has a flat bed? -Mike I'm also curious what you do with that box thing in your pic of "box blade and bucket" ?
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« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2015, 04:21:38 AM » |
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That looks awesome  ... since I don't do that kind of work I'm confused about something: how can you fill a dump truck up with dirt or gravel when it has a flat bed? -Mike I plan on taking the little rail liner off and adding another 2"x10" board above the one already on there....by doing that, the truck will hold 3 cubic yards(level...more heaped up).....a cubic yard of soil, gravel, etc can weigh between 2,000-3,000lbs......the Rubgy LR416 is rated to dump 5-6 tons...... 
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« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2015, 04:23:58 AM » |
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That looks awesome  ... since I don't do that kind of work I'm confused about something: how can you fill a dump truck up with dirt or gravel when it has a flat bed? -Mike I'm also curious what you do with that box thing in your pic of "box blade and bucket" ? For grading gravel/dirt driveways.......or you can lower the teeth on the box blade and slowly grade down soil..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha55YLy9Owk
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« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2015, 04:34:13 AM » |
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Proud of you Stanley,
"I learned this, at least, by my experiment: that if one advances confidently in the direction of his dreams, and endeavors to live the life which he has imagined, he will meet with a success unexpected in common hours.” Thoreau, a famous dead guy
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« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2015, 04:42:06 AM » |
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For grading gravel/dirt driveways
Carolyn heard me talking to you on the phone the other day... she's doesn't care so much about the culvert... she wants the driveway down to the barn graded and crusher run added to it... a few years ago an ambulance rig was trying to get to the neighbor at the end of the road's house in the middle of the night when it was real wet out, and they went down the driveway to our barn by mistake... they got all stuck down there and made a real mess of things... it looks OK now (all grass) but it is real treacherous when wet... bad for the farrier, and probably risky for the hay man... and the ruts hidden by the grass make it real bumpy even when dry...
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« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2015, 04:48:18 AM » |
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For grading gravel/dirt driveways
Carolyn heard me talking to you on the phone the other day... she's doesn't care so much about the culvert... she wants the driveway down to the barn graded and crusher run added to it... a few years ago an ambulance rig was trying to get to the neighbor at the end of the road's house in the middle of the night when it was real wet out, and they went down the driveway to our barn by mistake... they got all stuck down there and made a real mess of things... it looks OK now (all grass) but it is real treacherous when wet... bad for the farrier, and probably risky for the hay man... and the ruts hidden by the grass make it real bumpy even when dry...
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So she wants that done instead?....adding gravel to new dirt....means it will take a while of being driven on before it gets packed in tight.....just means you have to add another layer or two after a thicker initial coating....how long a driveway is it again?...... "1 Ton of Gravel will cover between 80 to 120 square feet at a 2 inch depth approximately."
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« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2015, 04:55:45 AM » |
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« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2015, 05:01:09 AM » |
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« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2015, 05:02:31 AM » |
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Default Re: Figuring gravel for driveway
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Is there a certian formula that you use for estimating how much gravel is needed for a drive way? I have never really had to buy a lot of gravel so I'm not familar with the measurements they use. I want to make sure I order enough but at the same time I dont want to order too much. Thanks in advance. My experience has been that crusher run gravel will cover about 150 ft. 3 " deep for a 10 ft. wide road and the dump truck can rough spread it if the driver is good and then you just need to finish spread it with your box or back blade or FEL. Just to give you a rough idea. That is for a 15 ton load as I recall..a full double axle dump truck load.
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« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2015, 05:10:17 AM » |
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For grading gravel/dirt driveways
Carolyn heard me talking to you on the phone the other day... she's doesn't care so much about the culvert... she wants the driveway down to the barn graded and crusher run added to it... a few years ago an ambulance rig was trying to get to the neighbor at the end of the road's house in the middle of the night when it was real wet out, and they went down the driveway to our barn by mistake... they got all stuck down there and made a real mess of things... it looks OK now (all grass) but it is real treacherous when wet... bad for the farrier, and probably risky for the hay man... and the ruts hidden by the grass make it real bumpy even when dry...
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So she wants that done instead?....adding gravel to new dirt....means it will take a while of being driven on before it gets packed in tight.....just means you have to add another layer or two after a thicker initial coating....how long a driveway is it again?...... "1 Ton of Gravel will cover between 80 to 120 square feet at a 2 inch depth approximately." Taken from the tractor forum.....guy explains it nicely...... "Make sure to ask for a load with plenty of "fines" in it. Fines are the little sand size pieces. Crusher run can be loaded off the top and sides of a big pile or off the bottom. You want the stuff near the bottom where the fines have sifted down to. The fines will help lock together the larger rock. This will not cost extra, but you may not get them if you don't ask for them. It will be well worth the trouble of asking. One extra ton of fines is far more useful than an extra ton of larger assorted rock. Given a few months, minimal traffic and some rain, you will see crusher run with a lot of fines in it become almost like concrete. A lack of fines will yield a road with the gravel skittering all over the place because there is nothing to lock it together. Bill G is right about the name. It is called crusher run, not crush and run. That means you are getting whatever comes out of the rock crusher. It is not sifted or sorted according to size. The crusher will create a variety of sizes and a lot of small sand size pieces which are the fines. You can buy sifted rock which are all the same size, but that is not good for driveways. "
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« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2015, 05:19:13 AM » |
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The part that needs gravel is between 100 and 200 ft... I'll have to really measure it...
It has been gravel before, there's a base there. The 10 acres where the barn is used to be another family, they had a trailer where the barn is and a driveway to it...
When we figure out how much gravel to get, it might be that I have to get it delivered to a pile, you can't be all the way over here on a "real work" day running back and forth the quarry...
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« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2015, 05:22:30 AM » |
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 on "crusher run" being the right thing to get... not sorted gravel... it does almost turn into concrete, until you get the major deluge... I went down a long road back into the woods once that had just been "fixed" with sorted gravel... where it was deep was like trying to drive in marbles... -Mike
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« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2015, 05:24:52 AM » |
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I just re-stoned the driveway. Used 22 tons of unwashed 'A' and used the front loader and hand rake.[ 1/2-3/4"]. Before a rain I usually hand spread a few bags of Portland.
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« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2015, 05:34:43 AM » |
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The part that needs gravel is between 100 and 200 ft... I'll have to really measure it...
It has been gravel before, there's a base there. The 10 acres where the barn is used to be another family, they had a trailer where the barn is and a driveway to it...
When we figure out how much gravel to get, it might be that I have to get it delivered to a pile, you can't be all the way over here on a "real work" day running back and forth the quarry...
-Mike
Yep.....you get a big load or two delivered, and we can grade it smooth and add the new stuff...... 
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« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2015, 05:48:24 AM » |
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 on "crusher run" being the right thing to get... not sorted gravel... it does almost turn into concrete, until you get the major deluge... I went down a long road back into the woods once that had just been "fixed" with sorted gravel... where it was deep was like trying to drive in marbles... -Mike It's not gravel................ IT'S STONE. 
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« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2015, 06:05:56 AM » |
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It's not gravel................ IT'S STONE.
No yelling probie...
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« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2015, 06:45:08 AM » |
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 on "crusher run" being the right thing to get... not sorted gravel... it does almost turn into concrete, until you get the major deluge... I went down a long road back into the woods once that had just been "fixed" with sorted gravel... where it was deep was like trying to drive in marbles... -Mike It's not gravel................ IT'S STONE.  Is that set in STONE?.... 
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« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2015, 08:27:51 AM » |
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« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2015, 08:29:49 AM » |
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 on "crusher run" being the right thing to get... not sorted gravel... it does almost turn into concrete, until you get the major deluge... I went down a long road back into the woods once that had just been "fixed" with sorted gravel... where it was deep was like trying to drive in marbles... -Mike It's not gravel................ IT'S STONE.  Is that set in STONE?....  Yes......Good ole Carolina Granite.....
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« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2015, 08:50:38 AM » |
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 on "crusher run" being the right thing to get... not sorted gravel... it does almost turn into concrete, until you get the major deluge... I went down a long road back into the woods once that had just been "fixed" with sorted gravel... where it was deep was like trying to drive in marbles... -Mike It's not gravel................ IT'S STONE.  Is that set in STONE?....  Yes......Good ole Carolina Granite..... The ladies I know prefer Georgia granite....something about the shafts being longer and harder
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« Reply #25 on: November 01, 2015, 09:33:45 AM » |
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Stanley-what ever you do NEVERNEVENEVERNEVER-EVER skimp on tying our equipment to the trailer. You can use too many tie downs as often as you like. Generally you can skimp once-and then pay a VERY heavy price. I used to flatbed NEW equipment all over the country. NEVER lost one-EVER. As a suggestion-for the tractor-ditch the straps for GOOD chains and binders. Straps have a BAD habit of sawing thru when you least expect it!  Go ahead ASK me how I know!  And B T W-best of luck and fortune with your new business venture!  Except for Halloween-leave cousin Cletus at home.  RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #26 on: November 01, 2015, 11:51:01 AM » |
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Stanley-what ever you do NEVERNEVENEVERNEVER-EVER skimp on tying our equipment to the trailer. You can use too many tie downs as often as you like. Generally you can skimp once-and then pay a VERY heavy price. I used to flatbed NEW equipment all over the country. NEVER lost one-EVER. As a suggestion-for the tractor-ditch the straps for GOOD chains and binders. Straps have a BAD habit of sawing thru when you least expect it!  Go ahead ASK me how I know!  And B T W-best of luck and fortune with your new business venture!  Except for Halloween-leave cousin Cletus at home.  RIDE SAFE. One step ahead of you....I'll be buying grade 70 DOT chain and ratchet binders for the tractor....guess they didn't want to spring for that.....
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« Reply #27 on: November 01, 2015, 04:22:57 PM » |
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Looks like that beast will last you the rest of your adult working life and then some. I hope the side jobs work out for you and I bet eventually it will become your full time job and you will be your OWN boss which would be nice to be able to do for sure. As long as you do good work and at a reasonable price on the side, word of mouth will spread and you will become busier and busier eventually working out for you. Best of luck!!!! 
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« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2015, 07:13:18 AM » |
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Stanley-what ever you do NEVERNEVENEVERNEVER-EVER skimp on tying our equipment to the trailer. You can use too many tie downs as often as you like. Generally you can skimp once-and then pay a VERY heavy price. I used to flatbed NEW equipment all over the country. NEVER lost one-EVER. As a suggestion-for the tractor-ditch the straps for GOOD chains and binders. Straps have a BAD habit of sawing thru when you least expect it!  Go ahead ASK me how I know!  And B T W-best of luck and fortune with your new business venture!  Except for Halloween-leave cousin Cletus at home.  RIDE SAFE. These are what we use at work.....going to buy my own for the tractor... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLrs7j4rlp8
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« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2015, 07:28:47 AM » |
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Stanley-what ever you do NEVERNEVENEVERNEVER-EVER skimp on tying our equipment to the trailer. You can use too many tie downs as often as you like. Generally you can skimp once-and then pay a VERY heavy price. I used to flatbed NEW equipment all over the country. NEVER lost one-EVER. As a suggestion-for the tractor-ditch the straps for GOOD chains and binders. Straps have a BAD habit of sawing thru when you least expect it!  Go ahead ASK me how I know!  And B T W-best of luck and fortune with your new business venture!  Except for Halloween-leave cousin Cletus at home.  RIDE SAFE. These are what we use at work.....going to buy my own for the tractor... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLrs7j4rlp8 Keep them LUBED you will NOT believe how fast they will rust up in the rain. I've sent a cheater by flyin more than once prior to getting those binders.  RIDE SAFE.
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Stanley-what ever you do NEVERNEVENEVERNEVER-EVER skimp on tying our equipment to the trailer. You can use too many tie downs as often as you like. Generally you can skimp once-and then pay a VERY heavy price. I used to flatbed NEW equipment all over the country. NEVER lost one-EVER. As a suggestion-for the tractor-ditch the straps for GOOD chains and binders. Straps have a BAD habit of sawing thru when you least expect it!  Go ahead ASK me how I know!  And B T W-best of luck and fortune with your new business venture!  Except for Halloween-leave cousin Cletus at home.  RIDE SAFE. These are what we use at work.....going to buy my own for the tractor... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLrs7j4rlp8 Keep them LUBED you will NOT believe how fast they will rust up in the rain. I've sent a cheater by flyin more than once prior to getting those binders.  RIDE SAFE. I'm not sure GA allows that old style binder anymore?.....I keep a can of Teflon lubricant to keep mine at work moving smoothly.......
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