On a more positive note, Health

[dreamaker]

Here, I thought this was interesting, I thought it concerns what we stick in our mouths. What do you think, If they are not getting us on one end, the are getting us from the other end. Kind of what has been happening behind the scenes. "Oops!  Did we forget to mention"

http://healthytraditions.com/2015/12/04/agent-orange-herbicide-pulled-by-epa/

[3fan4life]

Come on NOW the EPA wouldn't allow anything to hurt us.

After all they're part of the government and the government is here to protect us.     

[Patrick]

A friend works for a maintenance company that does work for Monsanto and BASF.  He says what they do and are going to do is downright scary. They are also allowed to do all their own research, safety reports and to self-regulate. Talk about the fox guarding the hen house.
He is now a big fan of organic.

[dreamaker]

Interesting thing, Organic, produce. I don't want to wiz in anybody's Wheaties. I guess I just think too much, any way!  People talk about organic, which I agree it is better for you, I just figured that there is only one little flaw in it. That is the ground it is grown on, what got me thinking about this, are those Urban Gardens many city people have been creating in empty lots. And again, it is a good thing. They were showing some of them, on a Detroit news station on TV. Well one of the areas they showed, I kind o,f sort of,  recognized it as an industrial vacant lot, I remembered when I worked in Detroit. So I kind of felt that the ground they were growing on, may be contaminated ground.  Now from what I understand, that when produce can grow, it absorbs, what ever is in the ground in to the plant, them we in turn eat it, and we absorb from what we have eaten. Thing is! Is all organic safe! For instance, brown rice has high concentrations of arsenic. Through testing, they found that the brown rice had high concentrations of arctic in it, but the brown rice that is grown in California or comes from overseas, is safe no arsenic in it. So my point is, it may help to know where the organic produce is grown. Or when cattle or chickens are range feed, be sure it is not contaminated ground they are grazing and feeding on.    just FYI!

[Patrick]

I had the same thoughts about organic.
I've mentioned it before. I mistakenly grabbed the 'wrong' jug of milk one day. We drank some without really looking at it and both remarked how good it tasted. It tasted like milk is supposed to or used to taste years ago.  It had organic stamped in great big letters on it.
So, I started studying. What I found kinda scary. The dairy farmers here said the government requires the herd food supply be medicated whether the cows need it or not. Apparently that ends up in their milk and gives it that nasty taste that we have gotten used to over the decades.

Back in the day every garage dumped its waste oil in the parking lots to get rid of it and also keep the dust down. Roads were oiled/  stoned on a regular basis, and, still are.

Years ago, after stopping oiling our lots for about 5 years, we had to have the soil tested. It passed. Mother Nature cleans herself.

A friend decided to convert his farm to organic. Our government came in for 5 years and kept testing his soil before they granted him a permit for that purpose. He is making a heck of a good/better living selling that stuff now. He is constantly being checked too.

Back in the 70s the farmers around here stopped cultivating. Round-up was the greatest thing since sliced bread. And, I got some them and used it around the house for awhile. It was great until you start to think about. I started reading and became real concerned, stopped using that stuff. Glyphosate is one of the most dangerous chemicals ever made. It is being looked at seriously and now being thought to be the main reason for Alzheimers and Autism. It has been proven it does get into the food supply.

The stuff I grow at the house is done organically, and, we now buy quite a bit of organic stuff. But, not all, yet.

[dreamaker]

Couple of funny things about organic. Many people won't buy organic because it cost a few pennies more, but they don't have any problem giving thousands of dollars to doctors, hospitals and medication.  Also I have heard people remark, that they don't notice a difference in organic eating, organic is NOT a magic pill, that makes you thin and healthy. Its just good eating , the way its suppose to be. I have been going in the direction, that nature is all about balance, and when we as humans tamper with it, nature compensates for it, and then it may not become beneficial, it may even end up detrimental to humans. Another words, things are meant to be consumed as a whole item, rather than separated. For example, juice is good for us, Right!!  Wrong!! it is dumping a bunch of sugar in our system. They tested, and found that there is more sugar in a glass of orange juice, than a bottle of Pepsi. Point is, that the fruit or veggie as a whole regulates the sugar and nutrients, into our system for healthy balance. Fiber for instance, helps control sugar in our blood and maintain proper digestion and intestinal health. I read that, 80% of our ailments come from our intestines, even though it doesn't seem related, that is what probiotics are for. That is it for now!!

[Patrick]

Agreed.  Its hard to do everything right though. My sweet tooth gets bigger as I get older.

Another story, I'll try and keep it short.
Doc thought my cholesterol was high and wanted me to go on a statin.  I'd already read some about those so I said no, I'll fix it. I started hammering the oatmeal and I hate oatmeal. Levels went down, doc was surprised that is what worked. The funny part was that I tended to have diverticulitis attacks at times. I noticed I hadn't had one, and, I still haven't had one since then and I keep eating the oatmeal 2-3 times a week. Its been over a decade now. Did I mention that I hate that crap.

[baldo]

A friend works for a maintenance company that does work for Monsanto and BASF.  He says what they do and are going to do is downright scary. They are also allowed to do all their own research, safety reports and to self-regulate. Talk about the fox guarding the hen house.
He is now a big fan of organic.

I absolutely despise Monsanto, along with other bio companies that definitely don't have our best interests at heart. All they care about is profit and absolute control over our food supply. Do some research on what Monsanto and Bayer have been doing in regards to their pesticide and GMO efforts. It will get your blood boiling. Personally I'd like to see their CEO's put up against a wall with blindfolds.

I find it funny when people go on their anti-government agency (EPA) rants, and in the next breath complain about how these agencies are letting us be harmed.

[baldo]

I had the same thoughts about organic.
I've mentioned it before. I mistakenly grabbed the 'wrong' jug of milk one day. We drank some without really looking at it and both remarked how good it tasted. It tasted like milk is supposed to or used to taste years ago.  It had organic stamped in great big letters on it.
So, I started studying. What I found kinda scary. The dairy farmers here said the government requires the herd food supply be medicated whether the cows need it or not. Apparently that ends up in their milk and gives it that nasty taste that we have gotten used to over the decades.

Back in the day every garage dumped its waste oil in the parking lots to get rid of it and also keep the dust down. Roads were oiled/  stoned on a regular basis, and, still are.

Years ago, after stopping oiling our lots for about 5 years, we had to have the soil tested. It passed. Mother Nature cleans herself.

A friend decided to convert his farm to organic. Our government came in for 5 years and kept testing his soil before they granted him a permit for that purpose. He is making a heck of a good/better living selling that stuff now. He is constantly being checked too.

Back in the 70s the farmers around here stopped cultivating. Round-up was the greatest thing since sliced bread. And, I got some them and used it around the house for awhile. It was great until you start to think about. I started reading and became real concerned, stopped using that stuff. Glyphosate is one of the most dangerous chemicals ever made. It is being looked at seriously and now being thought to be the main reason for Alzheimers and Autism. It has been proven it does get into the food supply.

The stuff I grow at the house is done organically, and, we now buy quite a bit of organic stuff. But, not all, yet.

You're absolutely right. Glyphosate is also responsible for the huge bee kill-offs around the world. Here is just one Google search. https://www.google.com/search?q=glyphosate+in+food&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

It disgusts me when I go to Home Depot, and see these huge stacks of Roundup piled up in the front of the store.

[The emperor has no clothes]

A friend works for a maintenance company that does work for Monsanto and BASF.  He says what they do and are going to do is downright scary. They are also allowed to do all their own research, safety reports and to self-regulate. Talk about the fox guarding the hen house.
He is now a big fan of organic.

I absolutely despise Monsanto, along with other bio companies that definitely don't have our best interests at heart. All they care about is profit and absolute control over our food supply. Do some research on what Monsanto and Bayer have been doing in regards to their pesticide and GMO efforts. It will get your blood boiling. Personally I'd like to see their CEO's put up against a wall with blindfolds.

I find it funny when people go on their anti-government agency (EPA) rants, and in the next breath complain about how these agencies are letting us be harmed.

hmmm... You've noticed that too. 

[dreamaker]

Agreed.  Its hard to do everything right though. My sweet tooth gets bigger as I get older.

Another story, I'll try and keep it short.
Doc thought my cholesterol was high and wanted me to go on a statin.  I'd already read some about those so I said no, I'll fix it. I started hammering the oatmeal and I hate oatmeal. Levels went down, doc was surprised that is what worked. The funny part was that I tended to have diverticulitis attacks at times. I noticed I hadn't had one, and, I still haven't had one since then and I keep eating the oatmeal 2-3 times a week. Its been over a decade now. Did I mention that I hate that crap.

Couple thing you may consider, first try to go light on Gluten, Gluten is the stuff that make doe go springy, but some people have a sensitivity to it and don't know it, and some have Celiac Disease and do know it. Far as oatmeal, some oatmeal's may have gluten in it, it don't take much to mess up your system, if you have a sensitivity to it. Try some other grains that are gluten free, also at the store on the packaging you may see a circle with GF in it, which means Gluten Free. Another thing, is when you go to the food outlet, they can play the Mislead Game with their customers. For example, if you go to the food outlet and buy Quinoa, it looks like a one pound box, but it generally has less, like 12.5oz and cost about $7 and up. I go online to Nuts.com and get a pound of organic quinoa for around $6 for a full pound. Also you could try other grains like Teff which has a nutty/maple like taste to it, also for the sweet tooth try stevia, which is a natural sweetener and is "0" on the glycemic index. Most every store has it under different names like Truvia, even diabetics can use it. Check nuts out, if anything they can be cheaper than the store and you know what you are getting.

nuts.com

[Patrick]

Agreed.  Its hard to do everything right though. My sweet tooth gets bigger as I get older.

Another story, I'll try and keep it short.
Doc thought my cholesterol was high and wanted me to go on a statin.  I'd already read some about those so I said no, I'll fix it. I started hammering the oatmeal and I hate oatmeal. Levels went down, doc was surprised that is what worked. The funny part was that I tended to have diverticulitis attacks at times. I noticed I hadn't had one, and, I still haven't had one since then and I keep eating the oatmeal 2-3 times a week. Its been over a decade now. Did I mention that I hate that crap.

Couple thing you may consider, first try to go light on Gluten, Gluten is the stuff that make doe go springy, but some people have a sensitivity to it and don't know it, and some have Celiac Disease and do know it. Far as oatmeal, some oatmeal's may have gluten in it, it don't take much to mess up your system, if you have a sensitivity to it. Try some other grains that are gluten free, also at the store on the packaging you may see a circle with GF in it, which means Gluten Free. Another thing, is when you go to the food outlet, they can play the Mislead Game with their customers. For example, if you go to the food outlet and buy Quinoa, it looks like a one pound box, but it generally has less, like 12.5oz and cost about $7 and up. I go online to Nuts.com and get a pound of organic quinoa for around $6 for a full pound. Also you could try other grains like Teff which has a nutty/maple like taste to it, also for the sweet tooth try stevia, which is a natural sweetener and is "0" on the glycemic index. Most every store has it under different names like Truvia, even diabetics can use it. Check nuts out, if anything they can be cheaper than the store and you know what you are getting.

nuts.com

Hmmm, I have to think, that usually hurts. Is quinoa that healthy stuff that replaces pasta ?  I've looked at the healthy pasta replacements, didn't like them. They are outrageously expensive [ but thats OK if you really want it] but it tasted like crap to me.  I'm talking about that stuff that comes wet in those small bags, nasty. Its been awhile so I can't think of the right name.

We have been using Stevia and started growing it last year. Its surprising how hard it is to get away from any form of sugar.

I'm a big fan of honey bees and like doing honey, so, I eat quite a bit of it. I think its healthier than sugar, but, maybe I'm wrong.

I just do the oatmeal thing for the fiber, it seems to work best for me. Fiber is a good thing and oatmeal has been a wonder food for me.

[Patrick]

A friend works for a maintenance company that does work for Monsanto and BASF.  He says what they do and are going to do is downright scary. They are also allowed to do all their own research, safety reports and to self-regulate. Talk about the fox guarding the hen house.
He is now a big fan of organic.

I absolutely despise Monsanto, along with other bio companies that definitely don't have our best interests at heart. All they care about is profit and absolute control over our food supply. Do some research on what Monsanto and Bayer have been doing in regards to their pesticide and GMO efforts. It will get your blood boiling. Personally I'd like to see their CEO's put up against a wall with blindfolds.

I find it funny when people go on their anti-government agency (EPA) rants, and in the next breath complain about how these agencies are letting us be harmed.

hmmm... You've noticed that too. 

Well, yes and no.

Remember that the EPA was Nixon's pet project and was to be his legacy. I liked Nixon, but, he could be, and was, pretty stupid about some things.
In the early days the EPA was pretty good. They did a good job with air and water for awhile. But, as in any government agency, they got to big for their britches. They have become crazy lately.

When it comes to these big chemical companies. On one hand they are trying to improve society and eliminate hunger and improving agriculture. They have improved crop yields and varieties and made life a bit easier for farmers and we are feeding the world.

Some GM is or could be a good thing. But, some is not.
I'm all in favor of hybridization, but, GM is a different animal. Some may be good, some not, time will tell. The ones now I'm interested in are the sterilized male mosquitoes in the keys and the sterilized Moths in the northeast that are being made right here at the local experimental station.

However the chemicals these companies are producing is another story.  Glyphosate and 2, 4-D are some of the most dangerous chemicals made and they are trying to have us believe they are harmless. Vietnam has proven that they are not.

Now, what irritates me is that our government, including EPA, allows these companies to regulate themselves.  To me thats criminal.

So to rant about republicans being completely anti-government and in favor of such things as dirty air, water and soil is just pure bravo sierra.

[dreamaker]

Agreed.  Its hard to do everything right though. My sweet tooth gets bigger as I get older.

Another story, I'll try and keep it short.
Doc thought my cholesterol was high and wanted me to go on a statin.  I'd already read some about those so I said no, I'll fix it. I started hammering the oatmeal and I hate oatmeal. Levels went down, doc was surprised that is what worked. The funny part was that I tended to have diverticulitis attacks at times. I noticed I hadn't had one, and, I still haven't had one since then and I keep eating the oatmeal 2-3 times a week. Its been over a decade now. Did I mention that I hate that crap.

Couple thing you may consider, first try to go light on Gluten, Gluten is the stuff that make doe go springy, but some people have a sensitivity to it and don't know it, and some have Celiac Disease and do know it. Far as oatmeal, some oatmeal's may have gluten in it, it don't take much to mess up your system, if you have a sensitivity to it. Try some other grains that are gluten free, also at the store on the packaging you may see a circle with GF in it, which means Gluten Free. Another thing, is when you go to the food outlet, they can play the Mislead Game with their customers. For example, if you go to the food outlet and buy Quinoa, it looks like a one pound box, but it generally has less, like 12.5oz and cost about $7 and up. I go online to Nuts.com and get a pound of organic quinoa for around $6 for a full pound. Also you could try other grains like Teff which has a nutty/maple like taste to it, also for the sweet tooth try stevia, which is a natural sweetener and is "0" on the glycemic index. Most every store has it under different names like Truvia, even diabetics can use it. Check nuts out, if anything they can be cheaper than the store and you know what you are getting.

nuts.com

Hmmm, I have to think, that usually hurts. Is quinoa that healthy stuff that replaces pasta ?  I've looked at the healthy pasta replacements, didn't like them. They are outrageously expensive [ but thats OK if you really want it] but it tasted like crap to me.  I'm talking about that stuff that comes wet in those small bags, nasty. Its been awhile so I can't think of the right name.

We have been using Stevia and started growing it last year. Its surprising how hard it is to get away from any form of sugar.

I'm a big fan of honey bees and like doing honey, so, I eat quite a bit of it. I think its healthier than sugar, but, maybe I'm wrong.

I just do the oatmeal thing for the fiber, it seems to work best for me. Fiber is a good thing and oatmeal has been a wonder food for me.

You have to understand that may be we are so use to eating crap all our lives, that it is hard to get away from. Don't get hyped by TV info. some sugar is OK! as long as it is real, see stuff like High Fructose Corn Syrup, in place of real sugar. Your organs can't process them, always stick with the real stuff. Far as noodles, I think you are referring to Shirataki noodles that comes in a liquid bag. They are Yam noodles, I sometimes use them in soups or something as a filler. they are pretty much tasteless but have "0" calories in it. I don't use them for spaghetti, I use zucchini for spaghetti and it pretty good.  I packed up this tool from CVS or Walgreen in the Seen on TV area. It looks like a hourglass, you take the zucchini and turn it and it comes out like spaghetti, I love it!
 Yes you can use quinoa in place for rice, you can also used it in breakfast, it is very high in veg. protein.
 Now spaghetti alterative, go to brown rice spaghetti or pasta it is low in carbohydrate and calories and I think high in protein.  should be next to the regular stuff in the store.
 They use to think cholesterol caused plaque in our arteries, but it seem sugar is the cultrate. CHECK THOSE LABLES! there is sugar in everything, they even use different names to fool you thinking it is clean. That is where the excessive sugar comes from, not your teaspoon.
My Grandparents, my parents, my brother and sister had and has a truck load of ailment and eats a boat load of medication. I barely eat aspirins on occasion, have seen a Doctor in about 15 or 20yrs, the food must be doing something good. Now keep in mind, hopefully my body will be forgiving and repair the damage I may have caused in the past. I know I will die one day, I just don't want to go through slow death, like most do. I don't have a perfect plan, but I think it is better then it was before. To good health and ride safe!

[Patrick]

Agreed.  Its hard to do everything right though. My sweet tooth gets bigger as I get older.

Another story, I'll try and keep it short.
Doc thought my cholesterol was high and wanted me to go on a statin.  I'd already read some about those so I said no, I'll fix it. I started hammering the oatmeal and I hate oatmeal. Levels went down, doc was surprised that is what worked. The funny part was that I tended to have diverticulitis attacks at times. I noticed I hadn't had one, and, I still haven't had one since then and I keep eating the oatmeal 2-3 times a week. Its been over a decade now. Did I mention that I hate that crap.

Couple thing you may consider, first try to go light on Gluten, Gluten is the stuff that make doe go springy, but some people have a sensitivity to it and don't know it, and some have Celiac Disease and do know it. Far as oatmeal, some oatmeal's may have gluten in it, it don't take much to mess up your system, if you have a sensitivity to it. Try some other grains that are gluten free, also at the store on the packaging you may see a circle with GF in it, which means Gluten Free. Another thing, is when you go to the food outlet, they can play the Mislead Game with their customers. For example, if you go to the food outlet and buy Quinoa, it looks like a one pound box, but it generally has less, like 12.5oz and cost about $7 and up. I go online to Nuts.com and get a pound of organic quinoa for around $6 for a full pound. Also you could try other grains like Teff which has a nutty/maple like taste to it, also for the sweet tooth try stevia, which is a natural sweetener and is "0" on the glycemic index. Most every store has it under different names like Truvia, even diabetics can use it. Check nuts out, if anything they can be cheaper than the store and you know what you are getting.

nuts.com

Hmmm, I have to think, that usually hurts. Is quinoa that healthy stuff that replaces pasta ?  I've looked at the healthy pasta replacements, didn't like them. They are outrageously expensive [ but thats OK if you really want it] but it tasted like crap to me.  I'm talking about that stuff that comes wet in those small bags, nasty. Its been awhile so I can't think of the right name.

We have been using Stevia and started growing it last year. Its surprising how hard it is to get away from any form of sugar.

I'm a big fan of honey bees and like doing honey, so, I eat quite a bit of it. I think its healthier than sugar, but, maybe I'm wrong.

I just do the oatmeal thing for the fiber, it seems to work best for me. Fiber is a good thing and oatmeal has been a wonder food for me.

You have to understand that may be we are so use to eating crap all our lives, that it is hard to get away from. Don't get hyped by TV info. some sugar is OK! as long as it is real, see stuff like High Fructose Corn Syrup, in place of real sugar. Your organs can't process them, always stick with the real stuff. Far as noodles, I think you are referring to Shirataki noodles that comes in a liquid bag. They are Yam noodles, I sometimes use them in soups or something as a filler. they are pretty much tasteless but have "0" calories in it. I don't use them for spaghetti, I use zucchini for spaghetti and it pretty good.  I packed up this tool from CVS or Walgreen in the Seen on TV area. It looks like a hourglass, you take the zucchini and turn it and it comes out like spaghetti, I love it!
 Yes you can use quinoa in place for rice, you can also used it in breakfast, it is very high in veg. protein.
 Now spaghetti alterative, go to brown rice spaghetti or pasta it is low in carbohydrate and calories and I think high in protein.  should be next to the regular stuff in the store.
 They use to think cholesterol caused plaque in our arteries, but it seem sugar is the cultrate. CHECK THOSE LABLES! there is sugar in everything, they even use different names to fool you thinking it is clean. That is where the excessive sugar comes from, not your teaspoon.
My Grandparents, my parents, my brother and sister had and has a truck load of ailment and eats a boat load of medication. I barely eat aspirins on occasion, have seen a Doctor in about 15 or 20yrs, the food must be doing something good. Now keep in mind, hopefully my body will be forgiving and repair the damage I may have caused in the past. I know I will die one day, I just don't want to go through slow death, like most do. I don't have a perfect plan, but I think it is better then it was before. To good health and ride safe!

OK, thanks, I think that is the name of that stuff. Yep, its awful !  We're Italian [ we'll I'm a half-breed brought up Italian] so regular real life pasta is a staple. Just can't get away from the real stuff, the phony [healthy] stuff just isn't the same.

I've been studying as much as I can about Alzheimers and the thoughts about it. My father died from it. So, I keep my cholesterol up a bit higher than my doctor would like and I tell him why. We try to stay away from the chemicals too but thats impossible.  And we will not use fake sugars at home.

And , yep, when the ingredients labels are read, you find everything contains wheat, corn, soy or anything that has been either GMO'd or had glyphosate fed to it.

Well, we're far from perfect in our life style.  We have our vices. They'll kill us eventually.

[RDAbull]

I absolutely despise Monsanto, along with other bio companies that definitely don't have our best interests at heart. All they care about is profit and absolute control over our food supply. Do some research on what Monsanto and Bayer have been doing in regards to their pesticide and GMO efforts. It will get your blood boiling. Personally I'd like to see their CEO's put up against a wall with blindfolds.

So Baldo, I guess we finally agree on something.  There are people out there who do not deserve their constitutional Rights and should be shot down on the streets on sight.  You've come a long way from the left to get to this point. Congratulations!!!

[dreamaker]

Agreed.  Its hard to do everything right though. My sweet tooth gets bigger as I get older.

Another story, I'll try and keep it short.
Doc thought my cholesterol was high and wanted me to go on a statin.  I'd already read some about those so I said no, I'll fix it. I started hammering the oatmeal and I hate oatmeal. Levels went down, doc was surprised that is what worked. The funny part was that I tended to have diverticulitis attacks at times. I noticed I hadn't had one, and, I still haven't had one since then and I keep eating the oatmeal 2-3 times a week. Its been over a decade now. Did I mention that I hate that crap.

Couple thing you may consider, first try to go light on Gluten, Gluten is the stuff that make doe go springy, but some people have a sensitivity to it and don't know it, and some have Celiac Disease and do know it. Far as oatmeal, some oatmeal's may have gluten in it, it don't take much to mess up your system, if you have a sensitivity to it. Try some other grains that are gluten free, also at the store on the packaging you may see a circle with GF in it, which means Gluten Free. Another thing, is when you go to the food outlet, they can play the Mislead Game with their customers. For example, if you go to the food outlet and buy Quinoa, it looks like a one pound box, but it generally has less, like 12.5oz and cost about $7 and up. I go online to Nuts.com and get a pound of organic quinoa for around $6 for a full pound. Also you could try other grains like Teff which has a nutty/maple like taste to it, also for the sweet tooth try stevia, which is a natural sweetener and is "0" on the glycemic index. Most every store has it under different names like Truvia, even diabetics can use it. Check nuts out, if anything they can be cheaper than the store and you know what you are getting.

nuts.com

Hmmm, I have to think, that usually hurts. Is quinoa that healthy stuff that replaces pasta ?  I've looked at the healthy pasta replacements, didn't like them. They are outrageously expensive [ but thats OK if you really want it] but it tasted like crap to me.  I'm talking about that stuff that comes wet in those small bags, nasty. Its been awhile so I can't think of the right name.

We have been using Stevia and started growing it last year. Its surprising how hard it is to get away from any form of sugar.

I'm a big fan of honey bees and like doing honey, so, I eat quite a bit of it. I think its healthier than sugar, but, maybe I'm wrong.

I just do the oatmeal thing for the fiber, it seems to work best for me. Fiber is a good thing and oatmeal has been a wonder food for me.

You have to understand that may be we are so use to eating crap all our lives, that it is hard to get away from. Don't get hyped by TV info. some sugar is OK! as long as it is real, see stuff like High Fructose Corn Syrup, in place of real sugar. Your organs can't process them, always stick with the real stuff. Far as noodles, I think you are referring to Shirataki noodles that comes in a liquid bag. They are Yam noodles, I sometimes use them in soups or something as a filler. they are pretty much tasteless but have "0" calories in it. I don't use them for spaghetti, I use zucchini for spaghetti and it pretty good.  I packed up this tool from CVS or Walgreen in the Seen on TV area. It looks like a hourglass, you take the zucchini and turn it and it comes out like spaghetti, I love it!
 Yes you can use quinoa in place for rice, you can also used it in breakfast, it is very high in veg. protein.
 Now spaghetti alterative, go to brown rice spaghetti or pasta it is low in carbohydrate and calories and I think high in protein.  should be next to the regular stuff in the store.
 They use to think cholesterol caused plaque in our arteries, but it seem sugar is the cultrate. CHECK THOSE LABLES! there is sugar in everything, they even use different names to fool you thinking it is clean. That is where the excessive sugar comes from, not your teaspoon.
My Grandparents, my parents, my brother and sister had and has a truck load of ailment and eats a boat load of medication. I barely eat aspirins on occasion, have seen a Doctor in about 15 or 20yrs, the food must be doing something good. Now keep in mind, hopefully my body will be forgiving and repair the damage I may have caused in the past. I know I will die one day, I just don't want to go through slow death, like most do. I don't have a perfect plan, but I think it is better then it was before. To good health and ride safe!

OK, thanks, I think that is the name of that stuff. Yep, its awful !  We're Italian [ we'll I'm a half-breed brought up Italian] so regular real life pasta is a staple. Just can't get away from the real stuff, the phony [healthy] stuff just isn't the same.

I've been studying as much as I can about Alzheimers and the thoughts about it. My father died from it. So, I keep my cholesterol up a bit higher than my doctor would like and I tell him why. We try to stay away from the chemicals too but thats impossible.  And we will not use fake sugars at home.

And , yep, when the ingredients labels are read, you find everything contains wheat, corn, soy or anything that has been either GMO'd or had glyphosate fed to it.

Well, we're far from perfect in our life style.  We have our vices. They'll kill us eventually.

You have to ask yourself a question, do I want to be Italian, or do I want to be a drooling, self defecating blob of a human. the choice is yours, Also my father died from Alzheimer's, there are a couple spices that helps detour that issue, one is ginger and the other is turmeric, it is said that East Indians eat it in their daily cooking, and their heart attacks and Alzheimer's, is basically low to none due to those spices. I drink ginger tea and generally take a half teaspoon if turmeric daily.  I am still here driving you guys crazy. Check out those brown rice pastas, This Gumba, Chef Rocco DiSpirito (I don't think I spelled his name correct) swears by it, and this guy is healthy as a bull.

[dreamaker]

Some additional considerations.  Don't cook in plastic, even if they say its OK, never cook in aluminum or use anything  with it in the kitchen of aluminum. If you are going to cook use glass, pottery, crockery or stainless to cook in. Plastic containers are OK to store in cold storage, like the fridge. Beverages are OK in plastic if cold, if not then put in glass or stainless container.  There is a thing called heavy metals and chemicals in the plastics that get absorbed in the food.

[Patrick]

Some additional considerations.  Don't cook in plastic, even if they say its OK, never cook in aluminum or use anything  with it in the kitchen of aluminum. If you are going to cook use glass, pottery, crockery or stainless to cook in. Plastic containers are OK to store in cold storage, like the fridge. Beverages are OK in plastic if cold, if not then put in glass or stainless container.  There is a thing called heavy metals and chemicals in the plastics that get absorbed in the food.

Agreed. It has been said that aluminum is safe to cook in and that was just a big scare
[ Alzheimers ], but,  we still don't use it. We threw away quite a few pots and pans.

No plastic wrap in the microwave, etc.
I don't trust beer in a can.

[dreamaker]

Cans have BPA in them, and the more acidy the content, the more BPA absorbed. Rule of thumb, if  you have a choice between glass or can, always go glass. Even though they don't advertise about phthalate is in plastics, that gets absorbed in foods, good thing is they dissipates out  of the body in 24hrs, so they say.

[Patrick]

' They ' say a lot of things don't they.

We are much fed than in the past. We know a heck of a lot more about food and nutrition than even our parents did.
We are living longer probably because of it. But, yep, we are still poisoning ourselves.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Some additional considerations.  Don't cook in plastic, even if they say its OK, never cook in aluminum or use anything  with it in the kitchen of aluminum. If you are going to cook use glass, pottery, crockery or stainless to cook in. Plastic containers are OK to store in cold storage, like the fridge. Beverages are OK in plastic if cold, if not then put in glass or stainless container.  There is a thing called heavy metals and chemicals in the plastics that get absorbed in the food.

Agreed. It has been said that aluminum is safe to cook in and that was just a big scare
[ Alzheimers ], but,  we still don't use it. We threw away quite a few pots and pans.

No plastic wrap in the microwave, etc.
I don't trust beer in a can.

Hell, I'd have been dead long ago if there was a problem with beer in cans 

[Patrick]

Some additional considerations.  Don't cook in plastic, even if they say its OK, never cook in aluminum or use anything  with it in the kitchen of aluminum. If you are going to cook use glass, pottery, crockery or stainless to cook in. Plastic containers are OK to store in cold storage, like the fridge. Beverages are OK in plastic if cold, if not then put in glass or stainless container.  There is a thing called heavy metals and chemicals in the plastics that get absorbed in the food.

Agreed. It has been said that aluminum is safe to cook in and that was just a big scare
[ Alzheimers ], but,  we still don't use it. We threw away quite a few pots and pans.

No plastic wrap in the microwave, etc.
I don't trust beer in a can.

Hell, I'd have been dead long ago if there was a problem with beer in cans 

Well, ya, me too.

[dreamaker]

' They ' say a lot of things don't they.

We are much fed than in the past. We know a heck of a lot more about food and nutrition than even our parents did.
We are living longer probably because of it. But, yep, we are still poisoning ourselves.

I think back in the day, the food our elders ate, was healthier and cleaner for them, than what we have. I think, their health issue were derived from many of the environment, and things they use to handle, being told they were safe and were not. Asbestos is our friend, smoking is healthy, and the  one things, most people don't conceder, is ingestion through the skin. I feel our working environments safety, have much improved, but the food quality has gone into the toilet. I don't believe that our issues come from the food itself, as much as all the chemical additives they insert into the food we eat, for them to make greater profit.
Interesting thing! If you noticed in peoples suppose to be clever remarks, in the threads reply's, it gives you the insight, that if negative healthy food doesn't hit them in the head like a 2x4, then it must be OK to eat and drink. But then, down the road when it finally catch's up to them, then they are just baffled, why they have these issue and blame their genetics, for their choices. I feel genetics do play some part in our health, I think more as what COULD come, rather than what WILL come, and serves more as a warning.  People talk about GMO and it hasn't been proven that it is bad, here we are back to that 2x4 again!! Look around you, people SEEM to be sicker, with one ailment or the other, CANCER is a big one and PROFITABLE too.  Just mu thought for today, just think about it.

Flash! I just got this in my email, here is something to chew on.

http://healthytraditions.com/2015/12/06/trans-pacific-partnership-undermines-safety-of-food-supply-gives-power-to-biotech-monopoly/

[..]

I read this back in 2008 and kept the link

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2008/05/monsanto200805

I hope you will READ it and not just do a quick scan as so many are wont to do nowadays.

[dreamaker]

I read this back in 2008 and kept the link

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2008/05/monsanto200805

I hope you will READ it and not just do a quick scan as so many are wont to do nowadays.

Are you kidding me!!! I do have a life! that is a long, I just got to Pilot Grove. I have said before, "To beat a criminal, you must think like a criminal, the trick is not to become a criminal" I see a serious flaw, with the organic farmers, (lets call them). If I was Monsanto rep. all's I would have to do is wait till planting, then spread the Monsanto GM seed on their field, than claim the farmer was in violation of patents. Simple, then I eventually end up with all the marbles!!!!

 Interesting! A couple years back on CSI Miami, they had an episode very close to what your article said. Two people in a restaurant ate some food, later died from botulism poisoning, any way into the story a GM Company used botulism to create a perfect insect resistant food, the thing that got my attention was, down the road from the GM Company was a organic farmer, and what happen through pollination, some of the botulism characteristics ended up on the organic farmers crop, so legally, the GM Company had the right to take possession of the organic farmers crop. This is from what I remember! So I would assume that the CSI episode was created based on the article you submitted.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Uh... You do realize CSI is a fictional TV show ? 

[Patrick]

Sometimes,

Fiction becomes fact, and, fact becomes fiction.