Six year old boy murdered, sisters stabbed, WTF! I'm beside myself with anger.

[Rams]

 VERSAILLES, Ky. (WKYT) - Police say an Indianapolis man broke into a family's Versailles home early Monday, wandered up the stairs and stabbed a sleeping 6-year-old boy to death.
 
The Woodford County Coroner has identified the victim as Logan Tipton, a kindergartner at Simmons Elementary. The accused killer has been identified as Ronald Exantus, 32, of Indianapolis.

Exantus is charged with murder and burglary. He appeared appeared before a Woodford County judge Monday afternoon for an arraignment.

Court documents provide more details into the killing, but it is still unclear why Logan's home was targeted. His family said they did not know Exantus, who listed on a police report that he lives in Indianapolis, which is roughly 175 miles north.

A Woodford County prosecutor said Exantus, who was escorted into the courtroom by nine deputies and officers, will likely face other charges, including assault, because he attacked two other kids in the home. The attack was eventually broken up by their father, according to police.

A public defender representing Exantus said she feels certain "he's mentally ill."

Police were called about the attack just before 4 a.m. Monday. The Versailles Police Department received a call about a burglary in progress at a home on Douglas Avenue. Police say the homeowner called 911 after discovering an armed man inside the home.

According to court documents, Exantus entered the home and "proceeded to walk around the residence."

While inside the home, a police report says, Exantus went to an upstairs bedroom where Logan was sleeping in his bed. Exantus "with a large kitchen knife that he obtained in the house" stabbed the boy several times in the head. Logan’s aunt says four other children were sleeping in the bedroom.

The family told WKYT that Logan’s 11-year-old sister is a hero. When she woke up, she saw someone in the bedroom and threw herself at them. She started screaming for their father, their aunt said.

Police say the boy's father rushed to the room and managed to detain Exantus until police arrived. The police report says Exantus, during an interview with detectives, confessed to stabbing the boy.

A CBS affiliate in Indiana says Exantus did not have a criminal record in Indianapolis.

If Exantus has a Kentucky connection, it was not immediately clear.

A Facebook page for Ronald Exantus says he lives in Noblesville, Indiana, where he was a Dialysis RN at Fresenius Medical Care.

Jon Stone, a corporate spokesman for Fresenius Medical Care North America, told WKYT that Exantus "has been released from employment with the company." Stone said Exantus worked with the company's acute dialysis program in Northeast Indiana.

Exantus' Facebook page says he is from Coral Springs, Florida. A search of Broward County court records did not reflect any previous criminal history for a Ronald Exantus. The Facebook page says he studied at Med Tech College in Indianapolis. Records with Indiana licensing shows a Ronald Exantus who was issued a license in July 2013. The licenses, which is scheduled to expire in October 2017, is listed as active.

Logan's death has jarred the community of Versailles, a city that has a population of 9,054, according to U.S. census data.

Neighbors who saw Logan playing outside the house returned to the same question: Why?

The police report says it is "unknown" whether alcohol or drugs were a factor.

"It's just a horrible thing, makes you wonder why this would happen to this little boy. It's just so sad," said neighbor Tiffany Crow.

Hundreds of people have already donated thousands of dollars through a GoFundMe webpage for Logan’s funeral expenses.

"They're just a solid family. Great people. Never had any issues with them or trouble," noted the Tipton's landlord, John Truman.

Donations for funeral expenses can also be made out to the Tipton family at Kentucky Bank.

The family says they cannot live in the home after what happened.

They say generous people in the community have opened their homes so they have temporary places to stay.


http://www.wkyt.com/content/news/Police-child-killed-during-early-morning-burglary-in-Versailles-360764771.html

[Bighead]

The police should have been called to remove the perps body not arrest him

[The emperor has no clothes]

I don't know how as the parent I could go on. It is simply heartbreaking.

[Rams]

The anger in this community is far worse than I have ever seen.   

Nine deputies escorted this animal into court.   Pretty sure it wasn't to keep him from escaping.   

He walked in, roamed around, grabbed a kitchen knife and went upstairs and started stabbing kids!!!

I now understand the anger that drives a lynch mob.   

[Bighead]

The police should have been called to remove the perps body not arrest him

No more needs to be stated. He should have died on the spot!

[The emperor has no clothes]

The police should have been called to remove the perps body not arrest him

No more needs to be stated. He should have died on the spot!

I don't disagree, but it wouldn't have done much for those parents grief at losing their 6 year old son.

[Bighead]

No it wouldn't have but the scum needs to quit breathing.

[The emperor has no clothes]

No it wouldn't have but the scum needs to quit breathing.

We are in agreement again 

[old2soon]

Stunned doesn't EVEN begin to describe what I'm feeling. That MURDERER is PROOF that the devils spawn walks the earth. Logan Tipton may you forever REST IN PEACE.

[Rams]

Stunned doesn't EVEN begin to describe what I'm feeling. That MURDERER is PROOF that the devils spawn walks the earth. Logan Tipton may you forever REST IN PEACE.

Shock has turned to anger here.

So far, the police have no explanation as to why this may have happened or what may have driven this animal to do such a heinous act.   Apparently, only our local news is covering this tragedy  but, tension is very high locally.   Seriously, people seem to be ready to go nuts.

Law enforcement is on high alert.   Today is the inauguration of a new governor (a Republican) in Kentucky.   There is a big parade planned and all sorts of activities today.   Of course, terror threats have been made by unknown people.    I've never seen so many open carry weapons out and about on the streets and in stores.   People have had enough.   I don't blame them.   I'm not suggesting the murder of this child has anything to do with the terror threat but, the point is, people are scared and mad.   

[Hooter]

This is bad stuff and I feel for the parents and family all together. Didn't someone know this freak was a whack job? This is why we have guns! He would have never have made it in,  let alone out of my house. The cure for him: A bullet to the head or slowly stab him to death. 

[Gavin_Sons]

he would have never made it out of my house alive. the police would have been called to bring a body bag. I have a 5 year old and just the thought of this happening makes me sick. How can anyone hurt a little kid? these people need to die.

[signart]

I have no words. 

[Wizzard]

Beyond Sad. If it were my house he would look like swiss cheese from my 44 automag. 9 holes to be exact from the 9 shot clip.

[Robert]

I understand the tragedy of this killing but I am failing to see why all the outrage. We every day see random acts of violence and why did this stick out? Maybe I have become desensitized over random acts of violence so I am not trying to downplay the significance but could someone please explain.

[old2soon]

I used to carry small toys on the Phatt Ghurl going on P G R missions. Young uns git fussy give em a toy-with parents/grand parents permission-and 98% of the time the young uns smile said it all. What the F has to break in anyone's mind to do something so despicable? STILL failing to wrap my mind around this. Throw his ass in prison in gen pop-the inmates WILL KNOW what to do. RIDE SAFE.

[old2soon]

I understand the tragedy of this killing but I am failing to see why all the outrage. We every day see random acts of violence and why did this stick out? Maybe I have become desensitized over random acts of violence so I am not trying to downplay the significance but could someone please explain.

       6 year old CHILD.

[da prez]

  Robert , It killed a sleeping child. W H Y.  Do not use mental illness as an excuse.  A public execution is what is needed.  I will pull the lever or throw the switch.
  Now , I guess I will be pegged as a sicko. It should not be sucking wind. The child can not ever be brought back. It has no right to live. It should not be allowed life in prison.

                                  da prez

                        

[Tx Bohemian]

 Robert , It killed a sleeping child. W H Y.  Do not use mental illness as an excuse.  A public execution is what is needed.  I will pull the lever or throw the switch.

You and I would have a battle as to which one of us gets to that lever/switch first!!

  Now , I guess I will be pegged as a sicko. It should not be sucking wind. The child can not ever be brought back. It has no right to live. It should not be allowed life in prison.

                                  da prez                     

If you are called a sicko on this, believe me, you are not ALONE!! I'm right there with you!!

RAMS, please refrain from calling this worthless, piece of sh!t an animal!
Animals shouldn't be degraded by comparing to this waste!!

I gotta give the dad credit for the restraint when waiting for the cops, knowing this a$$wipe killed his kid!
As others stated, he would have not got out of my house alive!!

[The emperor has no clothes]

I understand the tragedy of this killing but I am failing to see why all the outrage. We every day see random acts of violence and why did this stick out? Maybe I have become desensitized over random acts of violence so I am not trying to downplay the significance but could someone please explain.

Dude, if you need the outrage of a child killed in his sleep explained to you, you've got no heart. 

[czuch]

Drag it behind a train.
And the public defender, if he does his job more than 10%.

[Xtracho]

I cannot even begin to imagine the horror and grief this family must be enduring. It transcends words. Outrage? For me that is an understatement. If I were the father of that child I would gladly trade my freedom for the opportunity to kill him with my bare hands. To say I have no confidence in the justice system is correct.

As I am gone from home for extended periods, both my girls are properly trained and armed. Weapons are securely stored in bedside gun safes that are biometrically opened. They are first trained in such an event to get the hell out of the house. Through a window if need be. But if unable to escape outside the home, arm yourselves, identify the intruder is indeed an intruder, then shoot him until the threat is over. I have told them over and over again, go out fighting instead of cowering and awaiting the inevitable.

[solo1]

That arsehole will be better protected than we are. He will get free food and lodging, a complete physical and mental exam, a free defense lawyer who will defend the hell out of him, meanwhile looking for any loophole in the law to keep him from being responsible for his stabbing a six year old,  a very LOOONG trial with a tidy sum of our money spent, all kinds of people trying to justify what he did,  and a complete disgust on the workings of the Law by us.  It is too bad that the Dad couldn't have take the bastard out.

Our government AND the Rule of Law have failed us.  If the residents want to be the law, instead of the government, I sure wouldn't bad mouth them.

[Hooter]

            He will probably be found incompetent to stand trial, end up in a mental institution and we will pay for this ass bag to live the rest of his life there. 3 hots and a flop for him and guess who pays the bill!

[The emperor has no clothes]

That arsehole will be better protected than we are. He will get free food and lodging, a complete physical and mental exam, a free defense lawyer who will defend the hell out of him, meanwhile looking for any loophole in the law to keep him from being responsible for his stabbing a six year old,  a very LOOONG trial with a tidy sum of our money spent, all kinds of people trying to justify what he did,  and a complete disgust on the workings of the Law by us.  It is too bad that the Dad couldn't have take the bastard out.

Our government AND the Rule of Law have failed us.  If the residents want to be the law, instead of the government, I sure wouldn't bad mouth them.

Wayne, I agree this is about as heinous as it gets. But I would not wish vigilantism to prevail. Once we go that route things tend to go bad pretty quick. I think we would be better off making the punishments for this stuff and any crimes against kids EXTREME.

[Wizzard]

That arsehole will be better protected than we are. He will get free food and lodging, a complete physical and mental exam, a free defense lawyer who will defend the hell out of him, meanwhile looking for any loophole in the law to keep him from being responsible for his stabbing a six year old,  a very LOOONG trial with a tidy sum of our money spent, all kinds of people trying to justify what he did,  and a complete disgust on the workings of the Law by us.  It is too bad that the Dad couldn't have take the bastard out.

Our government AND the Rule of Law have failed us.  If the residents want to be the law, instead of the government, I sure wouldn't bad mouth them.

Wayne, I agree this is about as heinous as it gets. But I would not wish vigilantism to prevail. Once we go that route things tend to go bad pretty quick. I think we would be better off making the punishments for this stuff and any crimes against kids EXTREME.

 

[Xtracho]

That arsehole will be better protected than we are. He will get free food and lodging, a complete physical and mental exam, a free defense lawyer who will defend the hell out of him, meanwhile looking for any loophole in the law to keep him from being responsible for his stabbing a six year old,  a very LOOONG trial with a tidy sum of our money spent, all kinds of people trying to justify what he did,  and a complete disgust on the workings of the Law by us.  It is too bad that the Dad couldn't have take the bastard out.

Our government AND the Rule of Law have failed us.  If the residents want to be the law, instead of the government, I sure wouldn't bad mouth them.

Wayne, I agree this is about as heinous as it gets. But I would not wish vigilantism to prevail. Once we go that route things tend to go bad pretty quick. I think we would be better off making the punishments for this stuff and any crimes against kids EXTREME.

Regardless of how extreme you make the punishment, short of making such punishment mandatory, it's a worthless effort. As long as judges have discretion and lawyers wheel and deal, scumbags like this will continue to breath someone else's good air.

I short....a pipe dream at best.

[The emperor has no clothes]

We have plenty of mandatory sentencing guidelines. Judges don't seem to like them but I say screw them. IMHO any crime against kids should be the harshest sentences of all. If we can require sentences of 20 years for selling cocaine surely we can require death for abusing a kid.

[Xtracho]

While I agree that crimes like this deserve the harshest punishment under the law, what are you going to mandate? Capital punishment? Sorry, that ain't gonna happen and you know it. So what would you propose? Life without parole? Pales in comparison to the crime committed and just further burdens the already over crowded penal system.

[Jess from VA]

They are very vague on the break in.  Of course, it's breaking and entering a dwelling to just walk through an unlocked door (without permission).  I have a serious problem with people who do not lock their doors.

The perp seems to be a stumbling idiot, so how exactly does he break in a locked door without making noise and alerting the residents?  If they left their door unlocked, they are (also) seriously at fault in this tragedy.

I read a story about a cop who got lucky and IDed a car reportedly used to snatch a small girl (way out in nowhere).   No backup was available and time was of the essence so he crept in (an unlocked door), and looked into the bathroom where he saw the little girl dead (and nude) in the tub of a cut throat.  He peeked around the corner and there was the perp on a sofa with a big knife on the coffee table.  He kicked a stool, the perp was surprised and grabbed the knife and stood, and the cop got a handful of rounds in his front side before he went down, dead right there.  When he told the investigators what happened (not the kicked stool part) they were a bit dubious.  After they saw the girl in the tub, it was written up as a righteous shoot.  You damn skippy it was a good shoot.

People with families need to have a plan and discussion of how everyone will act if crap happens... like Mr Xtracho.  

And lock your doors, lest you are inviting the wolf into your home.

[Xtracho]

People with families need to have a plan and discussion of how everyone will act if crap happens... like Mr Xtracho.  

And lock your doors, lest you are inviting the wolf into your home.

Kudos to the cop for exacting the justice that was deserved.  

I offered up a simplistic explanation of what I have told and trained my girls. And the fact that we have 3 rather loud barking dogs helps to prevent any clandestine intrusion. No way anyone gets in our house without being discovered. Our discussions, and they are serious ones, also extend to public places as well. When we go out to eat, for instance, we play a little game in situational awareness. My first question is usually "Where are the exits?" After we are seated I'll ask them if they can tell me what color shirt the guy is wearing seated in the booth on the other side of the room. Those things may seem rudimentary. But after having done it over and over again, they are trained to begin looking at those things the minute we enter the building. You perform as you train. I am convinced of that.

And anyone that doesn't lock their doors is just as Jess said. Inviting disaster.

Did not mean to detract from the intent of the thread. I am outraged beyond containing myself over this tragedy.

[Jess from VA]

A few code words are also an excellent idea. (SOP in many military organizations)

One code word is a question;  mention say, daisies, and you are asking if everything is all right.
I was thinking of buying you some daisies.

The reply also needs to be in code;  I am in danger = poppies.  I prefer poppies.
I am OK, all is well = roses. I prefer roses.

On BlueBloods, if anyone in the family hears.... please don't hurt my family they are to instantly dive to the floor.  It's easier/safer to shoot someone when the hostage they are standing in front of hits the deck.

Dogs are probably the single best addition to security someone can have.  They don't have to attack, just bark and make a fuss.

[Valker]

I read a story about a cop who got lucky and IDed a car reportedly used to snatch a small girl (way out in nowhere).   No backup was available and time was of the essence so he crept in (an unlocked door), and looked into the bathroom where he saw the little girl dead (and nude) in the tub of a cut throat.  He peeked around the corner and there was the perp on a sofa with a big knife on the coffee table.  He kicked a stool, the perp was surprised and grabbed the knife and stood, and the cop got a handful of rounds in his front side before he went down, dead right there.  When he told the investigators what happened (not the kicked stool part) they were a bit dubious.  After they saw the girl in the tub, it was written up as a righteous shoot.  You damn skippy it was a good shoot.

Loved that Tom Clancy book!

[Jess from VA]

You nailed it Eric.   

[The emperor has no clothes]

They are very vague on the break in.  Of course, it's breaking and entering a dwelling to just walk through an unlocked door (without permission).  I have a serious problem with people who do not lock their doors.

The perp seems to be a stumbling idiot, so how exactly does he break in a locked door without making noise and alerting the residents?  If they left their door unlocked, they are (also) seriously at fault in this tragedy.

I read a story about a cop who got lucky and IDed a car reportedly used to snatch a small girl (way out in nowhere).   No backup was available and time was of the essence so he crept in (an unlocked door), and looked into the bathroom where he saw the little girl dead (and nude) in the tub of a cut throat.  He peeked around the corner and there was the perp on a sofa with a big knife on the coffee table.  He kicked a stool, the perp was surprised and grabbed the knife and stood, and the cop got a handful of rounds in his front side before he went down, dead right there.  When he told the investigators what happened (not the kicked stool part) they were a bit dubious.  After they saw the girl in the tub, it was written up as a righteous shoot.  You damn skippy it was a good shoot.

People with families need to have a plan and discussion of how everyone will act if crap happens... like Mr Xtracho.  

And lock your doors, lest you are inviting the wolf into your home.

I would take issue with your statement that the family is also at fault if they didn't lock their doors.

[Jess from VA]

I would take issue with your statement that the family is also at fault if they didn't lock their doors.

Take all the issue you want, if you don't lock your doors (and take other simple and reasonable home security actions) and a man just walks in and murders your family, you are partially at fault (and should be deeply ashamed of yourself, forever).  

I think seriously at fault.

Leaving your doors unlocked makes you the murderer's enabler.

My brother and I have almost come to blows on this issue.  And he is stone deaf, and I could drive a D4 bulldozer into his house and he would probably not wake up.  And my 87yo mom lives in an attached home, with a covered connected breezeway, and I had to force him to install a lock on her door from his house, since he refuses to lock his house up.  And he is a quarter mile off the road, and out in the sticks.  And he's already had a couple trucks of bums pull up his long drive at night looking for what they could steal.  My dad ran some off with a 12 gauge five years ago... but dad is gone now.

He thinks he is so remote that he is untouchable, and that locking up his house is some kind of admission that bad crap could happen to them.  It's ignorant and misguided and dangerous thinking.

Take this case, where it appears the perp is schizophrenic or just totally whacked out.  Maybe wandering along trying doors.  The first one that opens gets the whacko.  He (or someone of this nature) would probably not actually kick the door in (may not even be physically able to), just move to the next door.

Or take some violent armed crackheads who can easily get through a locked door or window, but they will have to make a lot of noise doing so, enough noise to give you time to repel boarders with serious firepower.

Yeah, this is a hot button issue with me.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I would take issue with your statement that the family is also at fault if they didn't lock their doors.

Take all the issue you want, if you don't lock your doors (and take other simple and reasonable home security actions) and a man just walks in and murders your family, you are partially at fault.  

I think seriously at fault.

Leaving your doors unlocked makes you the murderer's enabler.

My brother and I have almost come to blows on this issue.  And he is stone deaf, and I could drive a D4 bulldozer into his house and he would probably not wake up.  And my 87yo mom lives in an attached home, with a covered connected breezeway, and I had to force him to install a lock on her door from his house, since he refuses to lock his house up.  And he is a quarter mile off the road, and out in the sticks.  And he's already had a couple trucks of bums pull up his long drive at night looking for what they could steal.  My dad ran some off with a 12 gauge five years ago... but dad is gone now.

He thinks he is so remote that he is untouchable, and that locking up his house is some kind of admission that bad crap could happen to them.  It's ignorant and misguided and dangerous thinking.

It may very well be ignorant, misguided, and dangerous. But that's a long ways from it being their FAULT.

[Jess from VA]

I won't argue the semantics of fault with you.

Look up comparative negligence in tort law.  Some states have it, others do not.  We generally hold the person responsible for a negligent injury/death to another who was primarily or principally at fault.  In many states, if a left-turner kills a biker, he's at fault.  But in comparative negligence states, if the biker died of a head injury and wore no helmet, the jury might come back 75% fault for the left turner, and 25% to the biker with no helmet.

http://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/personal-injury/shared-blame-comparative-contributory-fault.html

In this case, the murderer is obviously the primary cause of death (proximate cause), but if the door was unlocked he is not the sole cause of death, esp if it is shown the whacko was just trying doors, and went in the first one that opened.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I won't argue the semantics of fault with you.

Look up comparative negligence in tort law.  Some states have it, others do not.  We generally hold the person responsible for a negligent injury/death to another who was primarily or principally at fault.  In many states, if a left-turner kills a biker, he's at fault.  But in comparative negligence states, if the biker died of a head injury and wore no helmet, the jury might come back 75% fault for the left turner, and 25% to the biker with no helmet.

http://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/personal-injury/shared-blame-comparative-contributory-fault.html

In this case, the murderer is obviously the primary cause of death (proximate cause), but if the door was unlocked he is not the sole cause of death, esp if it is shown the whacko was just trying doors, and went in the first one that opened.

Well I will have concede you have me over a barrel in the matters of law. But if they had there doors locked but forgot to alarm their security system . Would they be at fault if he picked the lock and did what he did ? To a layman such as myself they were unwise to leave it unlocked but the fault is completely on the perp. But I concede you would probably kick my ass in a court of law.

[Jess from VA]

And I won't even touch a meat slicer (other than a knife, and I have to be careful with those too).

Maybe we can work up a Moot Court for Inzane.