Indians & Muslims

[The emperor has no clothes]

When I was young I used to hear the saying "The only good Indian is a dead Indian". I'm thinking the saying "The only good Muslim is a dead Muslim" is going to be common with this next generation.

[PAVALKER]

When I was young I used to hear the saying "The only good Indian is a dead Indian". I'm thinking the saying "The only good Muslim is a dead Muslim" is going to be common with this next generation.

Now, now now.... That was a saying in the cowboy/Indian TV shows, not real life.

But speaking of real life..... I've heard the only good Infidel is a dead Infidel.  And I'm proud to say I'm an Infidel.

[Serk]

(Not my joke, been around a while)

Three strangers strike up a conversation in the airport passenger lounge in Bozeman, Montana, awaiting their flights.

One is an American Indian passing through from Lame Deer. Another is a Cowboy on his way to Billings for a livestock show and the third passenger is a fundamentalist Arab student, newly arrived at Montana State University from the Middle East.

Their discussion drifts to their diverse cultures. Soon, the two Westerners learn that the Arab is a devout, radical Muslim and the conversation falls into an uneasy lull.

The cowboy leans back in his chair, crosses his boots on a magazine table and tips his big sweat-stained hat forward over his face. The wind outside is blowing tumbleweeds around, and the old windsock is flapping; but still no plane comes.

Finally, the American Indian clears his throat and softly he speaks, "At one time here, my people were many, but sadly, now we are few."

The Muslim student raises an eyebrow and leans forward, "Once my people were few," he sneers, "and now we are many. Why do you suppose that is?"

The Montana cowboy shifts his toothpick to one side of his mouth and from the darkness beneath his Stetson says in a drawl,

"That's 'cause we ain't played Cowboys and Muslims yet, but I do believe it's a-comin'."

[Jess from VA]

When I was young I used to hear the saying "The only good Indian is a dead Indian". I'm thinking the saying "The only good Muslim is a dead Muslim" is going to be common with this next generation.

That obviously goes too far, but I believe we will have to kill enough of them (hopefully, the right ones) to make them stop an international jihad toward a one-world caliphate. 

Talking, negotiating, buying them off, saber rattling and so forth is not going to work.

Our exceedingly poor foreign policy (I really don't think we have one) has not helped. 

In the meantime, we don't need any more here (except for nuclear physicists or similar skill sets).   

[DirtyDan]

I had heard it as the Indian the homeboy {being nice} and the cowboy

dan

[hubcapsc]

When I was young I used to hear the saying "The only good Indian is a dead Indian". I'm thinking the saying "The only good Muslim is a dead Muslim" is going to be common with this next generation.

Now, now now.... That was a saying in the cowboy/Indian TV shows, not real life.

General Sheridan said it... killing and driving the Indians from their land was United State policy
then... Him and Sherman, under the leadership of President Grant.

-Mike

[The emperor has no clothes]

When I was young I used to hear the saying "The only good Indian is a dead Indian". I'm thinking the saying "The only good Muslim is a dead Muslim" is going to be common with this next generation.

That obviously goes too far, but I believe we will have to kill enough of them (hopefully, the right ones) to make them stop an international jihad toward a one-world caliphate. 

Talking, negotiating, buying them off, saber rattling and so forth is not going to work.

Our exceedingly poor foreign policy (I really don't think we have one) has not helped. 

In the meantime, we don't need any more here (except for nuclear physicists or similar skill sets).   

Jess, I'm not so sure it's obvious.

[3fan4life]

When I was young I used to hear the saying "The only good Indian is a dead Indian". I'm thinking the saying "The only good Muslim is a dead Muslim" is going to be common with this next generation.

That obviously goes too far, but I believe we will have to kill enough of them (hopefully, the right ones) to make them stop an international jihad toward a one-world caliphate. 

Talking, negotiating, buying them off, saber rattling and so forth is not going to work.

Our exceedingly poor foreign policy (I really don't think we have one) has not helped. 

In the meantime, we don't need any more here (except for nuclear physicists or similar skill sets).   

Islam has declared war on ALL non muslims !!!!!!!!!

We are at war with Islam whether we want to be or not and whether our so called leaders will admit it or not.

The only way to win a war is to either annihilate the enemy or to kill enough of them that they get tired of dying and give up.

We must be prepared to do WHATEVER is necessary to win.

This is NOT a war that we can afford to lose !!!!!!!!

  

[The emperor has no clothes]

When I was young I used to hear the saying "The only good Indian is a dead Indian". I'm thinking the saying "The only good Muslim is a dead Muslim" is going to be common with this next generation.

That obviously goes too far, but I believe we will have to kill enough of them (hopefully, the right ones) to make them stop an international jihad toward a one-world caliphate. 

Talking, negotiating, buying them off, saber rattling and so forth is not going to work.

Our exceedingly poor foreign policy (I really don't think we have one) has not helped. 

In the meantime, we don't need any more here (except for nuclear physicists or similar skill sets).   

Islam has declared war on ALL non muslims !!!!!!!!!

We are at war with Islam whether we want to be or not and whether our so called leaders will admit it or not.

The only way to win a war is to either annihilate the enemy or to kill enough of them that they get tired of dying and give up.

We must be prepared to do WHATEVER is necessary to win.

This is NOT a war that we can afford to lose !!!!!!!!

  

So I take it that you ascribe to that statement ?

[PAVALKER]

When I was young I used to hear the saying "The only good Indian is a dead Indian". I'm thinking the saying "The only good Muslim is a dead Muslim" is going to be common with this next generation.

Now, now now.... That was a saying in the cowboy/Indian TV shows, not real life.

General Sheridan said it... killing and driving the Indians from their land was United State policy
then... Him and Sherman, under the leadership of President Grant.

-Mike

Hmmmmmm, maybe that is who we are...... I found this post on my Facebook news feed.   
For those misinformed by the media.

During the Iranian hostage crisis, Carter issued a number of orders to put pressure on Iran. Among these, Iranians were banned from entering the United States unless they oppose the Shiite Islamist regime or had a medical emergency.
Here’s Jimmy “Hitler” Carter saying it back in 1980.
  Fourth, the Secretary of Treasury [State] and the Attorney General will invalidate all visas issued to Iranian citizens for future entry into the United States, effective today. We will not reissue visas, nor will we issue new visas, except for compelling and proven humanitarian reasons or where the national interest of our own country requires. This directive will be interpreted very strictly.
  Apparently barring people from a terrorist country is not against “our values” after all. It may even be “who we are”. Either that or Carter was a racist monster just like Trump.
  Meanwhile here’s how the Iranian students in the US were treated.
Carter orders 50,000 Iranian students in US to report to immigration office with view to deporting those in violation of their visas. On 27 December 1979, US appeals court allows deportation of Iranian students found in violation.
  In November 1979, the Attorney General had given all Iranian students one month to report to the local immigration office. Around 7,000 were found in violation of their visas. Around 15,000 Iranians were forced to leave the US.
Meanwhile any Iranians entering the US were forced to undergo secondary screening.
  Interestingly enough, Carter did this by invoking the Nationality Act of 1952. A law originally opposed by Democrats for its attempt to restrict Communist immigration to the United States.
“If this oasis of the world should be overrun, perverted, contaminated, or destroyed, then the last flickering light of humanity will be extinguished,” Senator McCarran said of the law. He was a Democrat.
  Now unlike Muslims, Iranians were not necessarily supportive of Islamic terrorism. Many were and are opponents of it. Khomeini didn’t represent Iran as a country, but his Islamist allies. So Trump’s proposal is far more legitimate than Carter’s action. Carter targeted people by nationality. Trump’s proposal does so by ideology.
  The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1955 expressly forbids entrance to the US of any person that is a member of an organization seeking the overthrow of the American government by "force, violence, or other unconstitutional means". Please see section 241, subsection C, on page 380. The koran, sharia law, and the Hadith all demand complete submission to Islam first and always. Muslims who attest to these therefore subvert US law in favor of them. Trump just wants to enforce existing law..

[Jess from VA]

When I was young I used to hear the saying "The only good Indian is a dead Indian". I'm thinking the saying "The only good Muslim is a dead Muslim" is going to be common with this next generation.

That obviously goes too far, but I believe we will have to kill enough of them (hopefully, the right ones) to make them stop an international jihad toward a one-world caliphate. 

Talking, negotiating, buying them off, saber rattling and so forth is not going to work.

Our exceedingly poor foreign policy (I really don't think we have one) has not helped. 

In the meantime, we don't need any more here (except for nuclear physicists or similar skill sets).   

Jess, I'm not so sure it's obvious.

There are millions who would never lift a hand against us.  They may not show much displeasure with terrorist actions, but I don't think that is tacit agreement, so much as self preservation.  Carpet bombing vast areas of Muslim population would not help us with the terrorists, and would certainly drive (tens of) thousands to their ranks.  We will need to attack the terrorists where they live, and probably without regard to surrounding innocents, but not the entire world of Islam (2 billion +).  We do not want to have a long protracted land war going after them bunch by bunch.  We send in giant air raids (WWII style), and level where ever they are.  It (partially) took down Germany and Japan, but we are not overthrowing countries or governments, only groups of armed people. 

This assumes we get entirely new leadership in the G.  If not, we get more of the same idiocy, confusion, cowardice, complete failure of foreign relations, and attrition of our armed forces, for years and maybe decades.

[3fan4life]

When I was young I used to hear the saying "The only good Indian is a dead Indian". I'm thinking the saying "The only good Muslim is a dead Muslim" is going to be common with this next generation.

That obviously goes too far, but I believe we will have to kill enough of them (hopefully, the right ones) to make them stop an international jihad toward a one-world caliphate. 

Talking, negotiating, buying them off, saber rattling and so forth is not going to work.

Our exceedingly poor foreign policy (I really don't think we have one) has not helped. 

In the meantime, we don't need any more here (except for nuclear physicists or similar skill sets).   

Islam has declared war on ALL non muslims !!!!!!!!!

We are at war with Islam whether we want to be or not and whether our so called leaders will admit it or not.

The only way to win a war is to either annihilate the enemy or to kill enough of them that they get tired of dying and give up.

We must be prepared to do WHATEVER is necessary to win.

This is NOT a war that we can afford to lose !!!!!!!!

  

So I take it that you ascribe to that statement ?

I "ascribe" to myself, my family and my friends NOT being killed by some Jihadist SOB.

You can "ascribe" to the PC BS if you want and keep your head buried in the sand.


Muslims are NOT peaceful and they are NOT our friends.

The two that killed 14 people in San Bernardino, CA last week were just the tip of the iceberg.  


How many more people have to be massacred at the hands of these Jihadists before the "progressives" wake up and smell the roses ?


There isn't an easy solution to the problem.

One thing that I'd like to see is a law that makes just being a member of a terrorist organization punishable by death.

And definitely a law that makes committing a terrorist act of any kind "Require" the death penalty.

I don't know what the solution is.

I am certain that Ignoring the problem and hoping that it will go away isn't going to work.

 

[The emperor has no clothes]

You sure assumed a lot from my question. 

[3fan4life]

You sure assumed a lot from my question. 

Maybe, I was considering the content of many of your previous posts on the board.

You must admit that you lean more than a little to the left of center.

Your short a quipy reply implied that you didn't agree with my assessment.

[3fan4life]

When I was young I used to hear the saying "The only good Indian is a dead Indian". I'm thinking the saying "The only good Muslim is a dead Muslim" is going to be common with this next generation.

That obviously goes too far, but I believe we will have to kill enough of them (hopefully, the right ones) to make them stop an international jihad toward a one-world caliphate. 

Talking, negotiating, buying them off, saber rattling and so forth is not going to work.

Our exceedingly poor foreign policy (I really don't think we have one) has not helped. 

In the meantime, we don't need any more here (except for nuclear physicists or similar skill sets).   

Jess, I'm not so sure it's obvious.

There are millions who would never lift a hand against us.  They may not show much displeasure with terrorist actions, but I don't think that is tacit agreement, so much as self preservation.  Carpet bombing vast areas of Muslim population would not help us with the terrorists, and would certainly drive (tens of) thousands to their ranks.  We will need to attack the terrorists where they live, and probably without regard to surrounding innocents, but not the entire world of Islam (2 billion +).  We do not want to have a long protracted land war going after them bunch by bunch.  We send in giant air raids (WWII style), and level where ever they are.  It (partially) took down Germany and Japan, but we are not overthrowing countries or governments, only groups of armed people. 

This assumes we get entirely new leadership in the G.  If not, we get more of the same idiocy, confusion, cowardice, complete failure of foreign relations, and attrition of our armed forces, for years and maybe decades.

Jess, You are correct there are "some" that aren't sitting around planning their next big terrorist act.

What I can't get past is the number of them that were openly celebrating in the streets on 9/11/2001. I'm sure that many/most of them had never considered planning a terrorist attack. But they sure didn't mind celebrating the loss of 3,000 American lives. This is the image that will always come to mind for me when someone tells me that Muslims are peaceful.

[The emperor has no clothes]

You sure assumed a lot from my question. 

Maybe, I was considering the content of many of your previous posts on the board.

You must admit that you lean more than a little to the left of center.

Your short a quipy reply implied that you didn't agree with my assessment.

And there again, you assume too much. I don't believe I've ever had 1 post out of 6573 that were in favor of Muslims. Now I will admit I don't post every other day about how evil the Muslim faith is. As far as leaning more than a little to the left. I'm not sure, I've never thought to measure my lean. I'm not sure how to take the statement that I was short a quipy reply ? Does that mean I was boring in my question ? Again I say YOU ASSUME TOO MUCH.  

[art]

The problem with the Trump reaction as I see it is politics . The republicans don't want a non politician in office  and the Dem don't want a republican. Trump has a good point keep them out until we can verify just who they are,friend or enemy. He is saying just what most people are saying. We must protect this country. Obummer be dammed.

[The emperor has no clothes]

The problem with the Trump reaction as I see it is politics . The republicans don't want a non politician in office  and the Dem don't want a republican. Trump has a good point keep them out until we can verify just who they are,friend or enemy. He is saying just what most people are saying. We must protect this country. Obummer be dammed.

I don't really see it as a Trump problem. He is just channeling what his supporters want to hear.

[Jess from VA]

When I was young I used to hear the saying "The only good Indian is a dead Indian". I'm thinking the saying "The only good Muslim is a dead Muslim" is going to be common with this next generation.

That obviously goes too far, but I believe we will have to kill enough of them (hopefully, the right ones) to make them stop an international jihad toward a one-world caliphate. 

Talking, negotiating, buying them off, saber rattling and so forth is not going to work.

Our exceedingly poor foreign policy (I really don't think we have one) has not helped. 

In the meantime, we don't need any more here (except for nuclear physicists or similar skill sets).   

Jess, I'm not so sure it's obvious.

There are millions who would never lift a hand against us.  They may not show much displeasure with terrorist actions, but I don't think that is tacit agreement, so much as self preservation.  Carpet bombing vast areas of Muslim population would not help us with the terrorists, and would certainly drive (tens of) thousands to their ranks.  We will need to attack the terrorists where they live, and probably without regard to surrounding innocents, but not the entire world of Islam (2 billion +).  We do not want to have a long protracted land war going after them bunch by bunch.  We send in giant air raids (WWII style), and level where ever they are.  It (partially) took down Germany and Japan, but we are not overthrowing countries or governments, only groups of armed people. 

This assumes we get entirely new leadership in the G.  If not, we get more of the same idiocy, confusion, cowardice, complete failure of foreign relations, and attrition of our armed forces, for years and maybe decades.

Jess, You are correct there are "some" that aren't sitting around planning their next big terrorist act.

What I can't get past is the number of them that were openly celebrating in the streets on 9/11/2001. I'm sure that many/most of them had never considered planning a terrorist attack. But they sure didn't mind celebrating the loss of 3,000 American lives. This is the image that will always come to mind for me when someone tells me that Muslims are peaceful.

Mark, I know what you are saying and how you feel.  I feel pretty much the same.  Having spent two tours in the middle east, I am thinking about the dirt poor folks with one pair of clothing and kids with no shoes just struggling day by day to grow enough food not to starve.  A good number of the 2 billion fit in this category.  Carpet bombing them will not help us.  We'll still probably have to kill some of them to get the bad guys (from an Air Force point of view), but as few as possible is a good goal/plan. 

On the other hand, a zero collateral damage policy will mean infantry divisions on the ground for 30 years.

[FryeVRCCDS0067]

I know you guys have heard me say it before. And it just seems to get more true as time goes on. On Sept.12, the day after we were first attacked, we should have nuked Afghanistan. We should have killed every living creature there. These freaks don't respect life, they don't respect anything except death. We should have gave them something to respect.

[DirtyDan]

I know you guys have heard me say it before. And it just seems to get more true as time goes on. On Sept.12, the day after we were first attacked, we should have nuked Afghanistan. We should have killed every living creature there. These freaks don't respect life, they don't respect anything except death. We should have gave them something to respect.

AMEN I'd rather be "mean" and alive then "nice" and dead

they WILL get a nuke sooner or later and USE it

dan

[Robert]

When I was young I used to hear the saying "The only good Indian is a dead Indian". I'm thinking the saying "The only good Muslim is a dead Muslim" is going to be common with this next generation.

First besides being bigoted speech I doubt that is going to happen the kids don't seem to care the world is going in a vastly different direction and no one is saying that all Muslims are bad but that the current admin is disrespecting the American people. All will change in short order.

[The emperor has no clothes]

When I was young I used to hear the saying "The only good Indian is a dead Indian". I'm thinking the saying "The only good Muslim is a dead Muslim" is going to be common with this next generation.

First besides being bigoted speech I doubt that is going to happen the kids don't seem to care the world is going in a vastly different direction and no one is saying that all Muslims are bad but that the current admin is disrespecting the American people. All will change in short order.

You are probably right.

[baird4444]

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France Raids Mosques… What They Found Inside Proves TRUMP IS RIGHT!



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[dinosnake]

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France Raids Mosques… What They Found Inside Proves TRUMP IS RIGHT!



            http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/france-raids-mosques-what-they-found-inside-proves-trump-is-right/

Wrong.  France raided three targeted mosques, known or suspected as connection points for terrorist activities.  Three.

They are not raiding and closing mosques willy-nilly.  They are investigating and acting where appropriate, using their declared emergency powers.  So they are using due process (investigations) and are being directed in their actions.

[Valkorado]

Connect the dots, there is a common thread.

http://pamelageller.com/2015/07/pamela-geller-breitbart-news-the-mosques-behind-jihad-attacks-in-america.html/

[Xtracho]

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France Raids Mosques… What They Found Inside Proves TRUMP IS RIGHT!



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Wrong.  France raided three targeted mosques, known or suspected as connection points for terrorist activities.  Three.

They are not raiding and closing mosques willy-nilly.  They are investigating and acting where appropriate, using their declared emergency powers.  So they are using due process (investigations) and are being directed in their actions.

 Radicals & terrorists are occupying Islam's most holy places, mostly with the mosques' blessings, and using them as bases for their Jihadist activities. France may have only raided 3 of them at this time. Any thinking person would know that there are many more to be found.

[Moonshot_1]

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France Raids Mosques… What They Found Inside Proves TRUMP IS RIGHT!



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Wrong.  France raided three targeted mosques, known or suspected as connection points for terrorist activities.  Three.

They are not raiding and closing mosques willy-nilly.  They are investigating and acting where appropriate, using their declared emergency powers.  So they are using due process (investigations) and are being directed in their actions.

Wrong? How?

France shut down Mosques. 3 of them. Raided over 2300 homes.  No one said anything about "willy-nilly".

We are seeing the rise of a dark age culture. Yet we see and hear many who are willing to give this culture the benefit of doubt.

The Islamic goal is not to assimilate into western culture but to either have western culture assimilate into Islam or destroy it.

A simple look at the current culture in the middle east and the history of Islam would generally suffice for even the most politically correct among us to realize this.

That is what is coming here.

Religious Freedom is one of the tenets of western culture. Cultural freedom is not.
And that is the issue here.
This isn't about Islam as a religion. This is about Islam as a Culture.

I don't want the Culture of Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan and the like to supplant the Western culture here in any capacity.

If they can figure out how to assimilate the Islam religion into Western culture, welcome them with open arms.

But it would help alot if they would stop and overtly try to stop folks from blowing up western culture in the name of Islam.

Ain't seen that yet.

[czuch]

Their aim is to not survive any attack.
Ideology is un-defeatable when the other side believes heaven is awaitin.

[3fan4life]

Their aim is to not survive any attack.
Ideology is un-defeatable when the other side believes heaven is awaitin.

I like the ideology of the US Marines:
 

[Patrick]

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France Raids Mosques… What They Found Inside Proves TRUMP IS RIGHT!



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Wrong.  France raided three targeted mosques, known or suspected as connection points for terrorist activities.  Three.

They are not raiding and closing mosques willy-nilly.  They are investigating and acting where appropriate, using their declared emergency powers.  So they are using due process (investigations) and are being directed in their actions.

WTH !   Picky, picky, picky.

Just goes to prove, the  fellas responses were right , and, Trump was right !

You would probably justify only 3 such mosques in this country as being acceptable.

[old2soon]

So maybe they SHOULD raid mosques within 40 or 50 miles of san berdoo.  Ya'll give me a couple moments as FedEx JUST NOW showed up with my new flame suit.  RIDE SAFE.

[Bighead]

  :2funny:O2S you crack me up sometimes