Am I a Racist?

[dreamaker]

I have been using EBay, for many years with a lot of success, you got to understand, it is not a perfect world, and there are reasonable glitches anywhere.  Now back in the beginning on EBay, I need a part, I buy the part, thats simple, one time I bought a part and the company was in China. OK! Well, it took between 30 to 60 days to get it, wasn’t happy with the time, but I got my part.   Some time down the road I then again bought an item, and again it came from China, and again it took like 30 to 60 days to get it. But this time it was not what I ordered and was damaged.  So because if time line, I sort of said screw it, never again. So after that in the EBay search page on the left, I always checked the US Only box to make sure that the items were from US companies. OK!  Now dealing on EBay you acquire a certain intelligent or instincts for dealing.  Now even though I use US Only, these Chinese companies now have warehouses or something like, in the US, I noticed many in Cal. NY and TX. posing as US companies.  It don’t matter who you are, where you are from or what color, or nationality is to me.  The concept is simple, I give you “$” and you give me the item I requested. Isn’t that simple, Right!  Now with these US company posers, maybe 25% of the time I got what you pay for, 75% of the time, you go through this return and refund crap, losing and wasting all this time with incompetent people. They create slicker strategies all the time, posing, and marketing, many times hard to detect, till you have an issue, then you find out. So! Point is I dislike dealing with these Chinese companies posing as US companies.
So am I a Racist???

[Serk]

[The emperor has no clothes]

I'm not sure what your story has to do with racism, but you might be an eBay elitist  

[Xtracho]

Lawsy me! Freely deciding not to patronize a particular business because you CHOOSE not to. Hell yeah you racist b*****d. How dare you choose to spend your money as you see fit. Progressives will be paying you a visit real soon. [end sarcasm font]

[Patrick]

Are you racist ?  Of course !  But, so what !   


Regardless of what some would say, aren't we all to some extent.

[dreamaker]

Meathead!! I hope you do understand there is a certain amount of humor, light hearted, not being totally serious, kind of assumption here, maybe it is different on your side of the world, and then maybe you are doing the same.

But truthfully, in some cases certain groups, factions, or types, tend to follow a negative pattern to their actions or performance.  So not being patron to them, wouldn't that be considered, base in todays PC mentality, racist. I am not talking about normal mind set, but todays mind set.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Are you racist ?  Of course !  But, so what !   


Regardless of what some would say, aren't we all to some extent.

Nope. I would say we are all prejudiced in some way. But thankfully not all racists.

Meathead!! I hope you do understand there is a certain amount of humor, light hearted, not being totally serious, kind of assumption here, maybe it is different on your side of the world, and then maybe you are doing the same.

But truthfully, in some cases certain groups, factions, or types, tend to follow a negative pattern to their actions or performance.  So not being patron to them, wouldn't that be considered, base in todays PC mentality, racist. I am not talking about normal mind set, but todays mind set.

I was trying to throw a LITTLE humor in. I honestly don't know if you are a racist or not. 

[Gryphon Rider]

I prefer this type of race, thus I'm racist. 

[dreamaker]

I prefer this type of race, thus I'm racist. 

Meathead, I'm just funning with you!!!



Gryphon Rider: You know what, You just brought a good point to me, that I have always wondered about. I tend to pay attention to details, than most people, OK! I live in Michigan and about 10 houses away from one of the little Great Lakes. Canada is about 15 miles across the lake, maybe less, If I look hard and I can see the wind generators in Canada. Get the idea, I use the Over the Air antenna for TV, I get several channels from Canada as far as Hamilton. If the big butthead comes on TV when I am watching a Program, I just switch to Canadian channel, with the same program, nice option. OK! What does this have to do with racism, well I noticed that Canada has similar programs but always bring to the viewers attention it is the Canadian version, or at least have a red maple leaf in the US company logo. Now that give me the impression that Canada always tries and separate themselves from the USA. Like McDonald's arches with a red maple leaf in the center, don't recall exactly what talent programs at this time, there are several, but defiantly emphasis they are the Canadian and not the US version of the same program up front. What is with that.

[G-Man]

I'm all for racers, therefore, I'm racist too!

[Gryphon Rider]

Gryphon Rider: You know what, You just brought a good point to me, that I have always wondered about. I tend to pay attention to details, than most people, OK! I live in Michigan and about 10 houses away from one of the little Great Lakes. Canada is about 15 miles across the lake, maybe less, If I look hard and I can see the wind generators in Canada. Get the idea, I use the Over the Air antenna for TV, I get several channels from Canada as far as Hamilton. If the big butthead comes on TV when I am watching a Program, I just switch to Canadian channel, with the same program, nice option. OK! What does this have to do with racism, well I noticed that Canada has similar programs but always bring to the viewers attention it is the Canadian version, or at least have a red maple leaf in the US company logo. Now that give me the impression that Canada always tries and separate themselves from the USA. Like McDonald's arches with a red maple leaf in the center, don't recall exactly what talent programs at this time, there are several, but defiantly emphasis they are the Canadian and not the US version of the same program up front. What is with that.

We are proud of our heritage and culture, and while we are similar to the United States in many regards, we enjoy and celebrate the things that make us different from you.  We want to be able to see and hear OUR stories and people and geography on TV.  The problem is that we have comparable production costs for similar types of shows, but we have 1/10 of the population to sell advertising for.  For the Canadian broadcast business, it is far cheaper to buy the broadcast rights for a US show than to produce their own shows.  If we left all programming decisions to private business, we would see very little Canadian programming, with the exception of news and sports.  We support government rules that require a certain percentage of TV and radio programming to be Canadian content.  There are a bunch of rules to determine the Canadian content of any particular show, like there are rules for determining whether a motorcycle is made in the US as far as your government is concerned.

Often, Canadian production companies acquire the rights to produce Canadian versions of US (or British, etc.) shows that are already popular with Canadians.  These shows come with a built-in audience from the start, and also contribute towards the Canadian content of the broadcaster's programming.  They tend to be reality shows with Canadian participants, like Top Chef Canada, Real Housewives of Vancouver, and Amazing Race Canada.

[dreamaker]

Pretty interesting!!! Makes sense, I have been in Canada many many times, My uncles had cottages there, camping and so on. I have never meet a Canadian I didn't like, except CHCH-TV, but that is another story. I remember in I think in the 50's the Chrysler product cars had front ends of one car with the rear end of another car, mainly Dodge and Plymouths. Just wondered, did think you guys totally hated us. One thing I like about Canadian News is they don't pull punches, they kind if say it like it is some what. Also movies I forget I am watching a Canadian channel and they may curse or show nudity, and it sort of blind sides me. Here in the US, they have a bunch of two faced, tight asses, they have censor ship here.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Real Housewives of Vancouver ? Say it ain't so. 

[..]

I was stupid enough to buy a led panel for the tail light on my Tourer. Chinese made.

It lights up.

Of course it doesn't fit. They said it would.

Of course it doesn't work as a brake light. They said it would.

Of course there's extra wiring to do to make it usable as turn signals as well. No mention of that in the item description.

Now I have to go through the hassle of getting a refund.

Thought I was saving about $45 over the Radiantz unit.

To make matters worse the fricking fragile, puny Kisan Tailblazer unit broke as I was putting it back in.

Grrrr.

[Gryphon Rider]

Real Housewives of Vancouver ? Say it ain't so.  

I read it on the interweb, so it MUST be so!

I've never watched even two minutes of ANY of the Real Housewives shows, and don't even know which channels they're on, so I'm happy to say they're only an abstract concept as far as I'm concerned.  The only effect they have on me is that I might have to interact with people who have lower intelligence because THEY have watched the shows.  Of course I'm making a bunch of assumptions here, but I don't want to do the research required to prove or disprove the validity my prejudices (to bring my posting sort-of back on topic).  

[dreamaker]

Real Housewives of Vancouver ? Say it ain't so.  

I read it on the interweb, so it MUST be so!

I've never watched even two minutes of ANY of the Real Housewives shows, and don't even know which channels they're on, so I'm happy to say they're only an abstract concept as far as I'm concerned.  The only effect they have on me is that I might have to interact with people who have lower intelligence because THEY have watched the shows.  Of course I'm making a bunch of assumptions here, but I don't want to do the research required to prove or disprove the validity my prejudices (to bring my posting sort-of back on topic).  

WOW!! I just checked where you are from, man you are on the other side of the world from me, I surprised you guys have TV's,. Isn't that where the NorthWest passage is, I am a little rusty there. Only kidding about the TV, I know what you mean about those reality trash, and we have these so called adult animation cartoon trash, like the Simpson's, and then parents over here can't understand why their children are so rude and obnoxious.

[Willow]

racist (noun) - a person who believes in racism, the doctrine that one's own racial group is superior or that a particular racial group is inferior to the others.

Hard to nail down.  U.S. is not a race, so your tirade doesn't specifically say that you think your "race" is superior.  I think that's a stretch.  Your tirade, since you specifically and repeatedly referred to chinese, does seem to imply a belief that a particular race is inferior.  Maybe it would be best to say you are a culturalist or a nationalist, but, yes, it appears you are a racist.  Is that bad?  Depends a bit on whom you ask.  I always quickly admit that I am a racist so I won't be surprisingly subjected to the accusation.

It appears the chinese companies to which you refer may be driving their own strategies by either practicing there own culturalism or reacting to expected nationalism as they are pretending to be American companies.   

[DirtyDan]

racist (noun) - a person who believes in racism, the doctrine that one's own racial group is superior or that a particular racial group is inferior to the others.

Hard to nail down.  U.S. is not a race, so your tirade doesn't specifically say that you think your "race" is superior.  I think that's a stretch.  Your tirade, since you specifically and repeatedly referred to chinese, does seem to imply a belief that a particular race is inferior.  Maybe it would be best to say you are a culturalist or a nationalist, but, yes, it appears you are a racist.  Is that bad?  Depends a bit on whom you ask.  I always quickly admit that I am a racist so I won't be surprisingly subjected to the accusation.

It appears the chinese companies to which you refer may be driving their own strategies by either practicing there own culturalism or reacting to expected nationalism as they are pretending to be American companies.   

is some one racist because they keep score and "do the math" on a social level ?

is something wrong with liking ones self before strangers {color , language, etc }

point to ponder

dan

[Willow]

is some one racist because they keep score and "do the math" on a social level ?

is something wrong with liking ones self before strangers {color , language, etc }

point to ponder

dan

The definition is certainly non-committed.  An implication that being a racist is wrong would come from buying into some commonly held cultural assumption. 

A personally believe that the Choctaw, German, English mix is obviously superior to many, if not all, other genetic makeups.

Some would say that being a racist might be preferring the human race to whatever other races there may be.   

[dreamaker]

There must be a target on my back, I just bought some carbon fiber parts. on EBay, I contacted the seller asking the reason for the delay. Two of them returned email, to inform me the items are coming from China! I explained before!  in the search, I check US Only, and I always look for the location of the parts before buying, so why are they coming from China........... You know, sometimes people do thing to just piss me off. Does that make me racist! 

[The emperor has no clothes]

There must be a target on my back, I just bought some carbon fiber parts. on EBay, I contacted the seller asking the reason for the delay. Two of them returned email, to inform me the items are coming from China! I explained before!  in the search, I check US Only, and I always look for the location of the parts before buying, so why are they coming from China........... You know, sometimes people do thing to just piss me off. Does that make me racist! 

Maybe it's just me. But the more you bitch about this it makes me want to do stuff to piss you off. Does that make me racist ?

[dreamaker]

There must be a target on my back, I just bought some carbon fiber parts. on EBay, I contacted the seller asking the reason for the delay. Two of them returned email, to inform me the items are coming from China! I explained before!  in the search, I check US Only, and I always look for the location of the parts before buying, so why are they coming from China........... You know, sometimes people do thing to just piss me off. Does that make me racist! 

Maybe it's just me. But the more you bitch about this it makes me want to do stuff to piss you off. Does that make me racist ?

Yes! Maybe against bitchers!   

[Willow]

There must be a target on my back, I just bought some carbon fiber parts. on EBay, I contacted the seller asking the reason for the delay. Two of them returned email, to inform me the items are coming from China! I explained before!  in the search, I check US Only, and I always look for the location of the parts before buying, so why are they coming from China........... You know, sometimes people do thing to just piss me off. Does that make me racist! 

Maybe it's just me. But the more you bitch about this it makes me want to do stuff to piss you off. Does that make me racist ?

  For what it's worth I don't think bitch has been categorized as a race.  Perhaps you're a bitcherist.   

[The emperor has no clothes]

I can live with that title 

[dinosnake]

So am I a Racist???

I'd say...absolutely not.  You are not targeting a Chinese person per se, because of what they are, you are targeting their business practices, a systemic action.  

It can be hard to separate the two, business versus personal, and hopefully you're doing that...but I don't really know.  

[Willow]

So am I a Racist???

I'd say...absolutely not.  You are not targeting a Chinese person per se, because of what they are, you are targeting their business practices, a systemic action.  

It can be hard to separate the two, business versus personal, and hopefully you're doing that...but I don't really know.  

Yes, it can be very hard indeed  to separate.  You'd have to be able to get into a person's mind to know whether he felt it was just the system under which the Chinese are operating or whether he felt because they are Chinese that is the best of which they are capable.  I guess the give away answer would be if you asked him whether he would buy from a company of Chinese that operates out of San Francisco.   

[GiG]

I'm all for racers, therefore, I'm racist too!

DUDE!
Michele Jenneke Rocks! 

[..]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm7oX1yCFU0

[dreamaker]

So am I a Racist???

I'd say...absolutely not.  You are not targeting a Chinese person per se, because of what they are, you are targeting their business practices, a systemic action.  

It can be hard to separate the two, business versus personal, and hopefully you're doing that...but I don't really know.  

Yes, it can be very hard indeed  to separate.  You'd have to be able to get into a person's mind to know whether he felt it was just the system under which the Chinese are operating or whether he felt because they are Chinese that is the best of which they are capable.  I guess the give away answer would be if you asked him whether he would buy from a company of Chinese that operates out of San Francisco.   

OK! On a serious note. If I am buying some thing, I don't care who you are, as long as you give me what I paid for, in a timely period, not 30-60 days. Now when a certain groups utilize, similar misleading business practices, its there mind set that concerns me. So choosing  to avoid dealing with these people, but yet they again misinform and mislead me to believe they are someone other than they are, it disturbs me.

Now on a None serious Note!!  You guy should think with the big head not the little one!!!!   

[The emperor has no clothes]

Whoa ! I guess he told you Willow. 

[GiG]

... a little head never hurt no one ....
 

[dreamaker]

Wasn't talking to Willow!! I can see you are good at puzzles!

[Wizzard]

This thread is hurting my big head 

[Willow]

It appears someone may be making assumptions about what he has not seen.   

Well, may it just feels big.   

Dmaker, there's an old saying, "Fool me once.  Shame on you.  Fool me twice. Shame on me."

I hope you're not counting the foolings.   

As to the original question, avoiding doing business with certain unreliable entities does not make one a racist.  One's deciding that everyone or even almost everyone of a particular race is included in that group of unreliable entities does make one a racist.  Once again, whether being that racist is right or wrong depends entirely on whether the assumption was accurate.  Some would argue that it never could be. 

That is my lighter note, btw.  You probably wouldn't enjoy my more serious note, unless, of course, you're a Choctaw, German, English mix.