Gun Control sure does work

[Punisher]

NOT!

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-more-than-100-people-have-been-shot-in-chicago-so-far-this-year-20160111-story.html#nt=summary

But having one sure did work here...

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-two-robbers-shot-to-death-20160109-story.html

[G-Man]

I've seen the following question posed to a few anti-gun advocates and it stops them on the spot.....

"If you or your kid was in the audience of that movie theater or concert hall, wouldn't you want at least one person who was armed and trained sitting a couple of rows in front of you?"

[..]

But, but, but doesn't Chicago have some of the strictest gun laws in the USA?

Hypocrisy from the dem/ligs/progs. What else to be expected.

[..]

Where are the crocodile tears from the foul man in the White House?

Hypocrite. He's disgusting.

[..]

Shame the paper doesn't break out the shooters and victims by ethnicity, sex and age where possible.

[Jess from VA]

Gun control is only aimed at the law abiding and predominately conservative person/voter.

The libs already have the Free crap Army vote, so they don't really care about controlling their guns, or their behavior.

[Gavin_Sons]

But signing a piece of paper and having a background check would have stopped this.  
When will these dip craps realize criminals don't get their weapons legally?
Yes some lunatics get them legally then go crazy but I'm sure that is a small percent of all gun crimes.
Lets force more gun laws on the law abiding instead of enforcimg the ones we already have.
What's 10 more laws on the books that won't be enforced?

[Jess from VA]

What's 10 more laws on the books that won't be enforced?

Oh, they will be enforced (against the law abiding and meek), but will they make any difference whatsoever in murder and mayhem?

[dreamaker]

What you need to do, is get the stats with gun related crimes, put them in two piles. The first pile is crime with unregistered gun to that person, and the other pile with the gun register to that person.  And see what pile is bigger and you will get your answer.

[Gavin_Sons]

What you need to do, is get the stats with gun related crimes, put them in two piles. The first pile is crime with unregistered gun to that person, and the other pile with the gun register to that person.  And see what pile is bigger and you will get your answer.

I think we already know the answer.

[wiggydotcom]

Pistols are already illegal to own in Chicago so they've already taken gun control to the extreme. Once they've gone to that step and it hasn't worked, maybe they should go after the criminal.

I just wonder if they'll go after the store employee for having an illegal gun(pistol).

The employee did the court/penal system a favor.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Pistols are already illegal to own in Chicago so they've already taken gun control to the extreme. Once they've gone to that step and it hasn't worked, maybe they should go after the criminal.

I just wonder if they'll go after the store employee for having an illegal gun(pistol).

The employee did the court/penal system a favor.

I sure hope they don't charge them. They had been robbed before also. Sure am glad I'm not a night clerk at a Chicago liquor store. Being a meatcutter in the middle of the desert doesn't seem so bad after all. 

[Serk]

[Black Pearl's Captain]

What you need to do, is get the stats with gun related crimes, put them in two piles. The first pile is crime with unregistered gun to that person, and the other pile with the gun register to that person.  And see what pile is bigger and you will get your answer.

I've lived in two states in my life, neither required any registration of guns. Therefore every crime committed with a gun in Kansas and New mexico was probably with a gun not registered to that criminal.

Not many states actually require "registration" of normal firearms.

[G-Man]

Pistols are already illegal to own in Chicago so they've already taken gun control to the extreme. Once they've gone to that step and it hasn't worked, maybe they should go after the criminal.

I just wonder if they'll go after the store employee for having an illegal gun(pistol).

The employee did the court/penal system a favor.

I sure hope they don't charge them. They had been robbed before also. Sure am glad I'm not a night clerk at a Chicago liquor store. Being a meatcutter in the middle of the desert doesn't seem so bad after all. 

You would be behind 2 inches of bullet proof glass at that liquor store, and convenience store, and the check cashing store, etc.  They're not going to lose out in the exploitation of the poor. 

[Trynt]

Pistols are already illegal to own in Chicago so they've already taken gun control to the extreme. Once they've gone to that step and it hasn't worked, maybe they should go after the criminal.

I just wonder if they'll go after the store employee for having an illegal gun(pistol).

The employee did the court/penal system a favor.

In 2010 the U.S. Supreme Court overturned Chicago's ban of handguns & gun shops.

[wiggydotcom]

Pistols are already illegal to own in Chicago so they've already taken gun control to the extreme. Once they've gone to that step and it hasn't worked, maybe they should go after the criminal.

I just wonder if they'll go after the store employee for having an illegal gun(pistol).

The employee did the court/penal system a favor.

In 2010 the U.S. Supreme Court overturned Chicago's ban of handguns & gun shops.

 

[RudyF6]

But, but, but doesn't Chicago have some of the strictest gun laws in the USA?

Maybe not enough people know that - post up all the "Gun Free Zone" signs you can find at every road in to the city - then the criminals will know they can't bring their illegal guns in. Right?  

And I'm sure most of these shootings would have been prevented by a universal background check. That's just common sense. Right?   

[G-Man]

But, but, but doesn't Chicago have some of the strictest gun laws in the USA?

Maybe not enough people know that - post up all the "Gun Free Zone" signs you can find at every road in to the city - then the criminals will know they can't bring their illegal guns in. Right?  

And I'm sure most of these shootings would have been prevented by a universal background check. That's just common sense. Right?   

Well his executive action IS called Common Sense Gun Safety isn't it?      

[Roadog]

   Whenever I hear of violence by gun in Chicago or NY or any of the 'Gun Free Zones" I think surely they are lying ...because the law says they cant have a gun in chicago so obviously  they are lying about it. Had to have been murdered with a club or knife maybe a hatchet...they just will not tell the truth ,cant do it. That islamic  terrorist that shot that cop in Philly was a felon, law says he cant have a gun..they have to be lying about him BUT I saw the video of him running and shooting, I know I saw it myself, I think they faked it.  Serk, Dont confuse them with the facts. 

[Bighead]

Yep and back ground checks to buy a gun are more strict than the back ground check on Muslim immigrants

[old2soon]

I just came back from that area. When I'm in the sho-me I have "protection". We-da prez and my S I L were downtown Chicago on Christmas Eve. I only had a folding pocket knife with me. While a bit better than nothing I felt inadaquetly-sp? protected.    I can see me on my Valkyrie in June heading up to m brothers place at  gas stop or rest area-bad guy-stick em up and give me yer wallet! ME-give me a minute while I unlock my M/C trunk unlock one case for the pistol another case for my magazine and unlock yet another for my hollow point ammo load a magazine rack a round and shoot yer sorry ass!  YEAH-like dats gonna happen!  RIDE SAFE.

[MarcusS]

Laws do not stop crime. Public support and enforcement do. If Chicago went out and snatched every person to ever sell or buy and illegal gun off the street the problem would go away.  The placement of the firearms in idiot hands is a bad idea. It should be easy to train an army of gun sniffing dogs and turn them loose in the city. Get search warrants from every property owner and go for them.  The majority of the property owners want to clean the place up. If other illegal stuff shows up prosecute for them also. The liberal courts would then need to do their job and we would need to pay for more prison space.  It my be the lack of prison space that feeds the problem.

[Bighead]

Laws do not stop crime. It my be the lack of prison space that feeds the problem.

#1 smart man
#2 Nope it is the Libs that think all is well.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Laws do not stop crime. It my be the lack of prison space that feeds the problem.

#1 smart man
#2 Nope it is the Libs that think all is well.

You have heard liberals say "all is well" ?

[Bighead]

Laws do not stop crime. It my be the lack of prison space that feeds the problem.

#1 smart man
#2 Nope it is the Libs that think all is well.

You have heard liberals say "all is well" ?

Don't really have to hear it they ( the free crap army ) voted the POS we have now in the second time.
Please check for something mis-spelled and correct me please.

[MP]

What you need to do, is get the stats with gun related crimes, put them in two piles. The first pile is crime with unregistered gun to that person, and the other pile with the gun register to that person.  And see what pile is bigger and you will get your answer.

I've lived in two states in my life, neither required any registration of guns. Therefore every crime committed with a gun in Kansas and New mexico was probably with a gun not registered to that criminal.

Not many states actually require "registration" of normal firearms.

Exactly.  ND has no registration.  They keep talking about legal, registered guns.  Mine ARE legal, and are NOT registered!  LEGAL!

[The emperor has no clothes]

What you need to do, is get the stats with gun related crimes, put them in two piles. The first pile is crime with unregistered gun to that person, and the other pile with the gun register to that person.  And see what pile is bigger and you will get your answer.

I've lived in two states in my life, neither required any registration of guns. Therefore every crime committed with a gun in Kansas and New mexico was probably with a gun not registered to that criminal.

Not many states actually require "registration" of normal firearms.

Exactly.  ND has no registration.  They keep talking about legal, registered guns.  Mine ARE legal, and are NOT registered!  LEGAL!

+1

[Bighead]

What no condescending comment?

[wiggydotcom]

I'll give you a real life Illinois situation but first a little background.

I'm not against guns and never have been. I got my first gun as a 12 yr old. Dad took me to Montgomery Wards and I bought a bolt action .22 rifle for 15 bucks with my paper route money(1967).

I was shooting it unsupervised at that same age...after gun safety lessons by Dad. I also hunted at an early age.
With that said, Dad took my rifle to Wisc long ago since he had more acreage. I never got another gun, even after my wife and I started having kids. I didn't want one in the house while they were growing up.

Fast forward to Dec 8th of last month. I applied for my first ever FOID card and want to get a new semi auto pistol, most likely in a 9mm.
In Illinois, the State Police pretty much want you to apply online, which I did. It specifically says all applications will be approved or rejected within 30 days. After about a week, I started checking the online status only to be met with the "under consideration" tag...day after day after day.

I finally thought maybe they aren't updating the website and mine is in the mail. I called the site today and was put on hold for over 10 minutes---all the while a recording kept breaking in saying "Due to the high volume of applicants, there might be a considerable wait." I probably heard that about 30 times. I finally was able to talk to a female rep.

I informed that I was inquiring on my status since it said they would issue or deny in 30 days. Today is the 35th day. She stated, It says "Under Review!".   I informed her that I was aware of that but it says on the website, a decision will be rendered in 30 days. Once again she stated the obvious....I then asked if the website is in fact updated with status changes and assured it was.

Hmmm, I'm beginning to see why law abiding people don't want to go through the legal channels with the delays and hoops you have to jump through. Thankfully, the card will be good for 10 yrs, I think.

[Bighead]

Wiggy I got my first gun at the age of 7 and guess what no matter what the libs want you to think it has NEVER killed anything that I didn't want it to  and yes I still have it ???

[Jess from VA]

I'll give you a real life Illinois situation but first a little background.

I'm not against guns and never have been. I got my first gun as a 12 yr old. Dad took me to Montgomery Wards and I bought a bolt action .22 rifle for 15 bucks with my paper route money(1967).

I was shooting it unsupervised at that same age...after gun safety lessons by Dad. I also hunted at an early age.
With that said, Dad took my rifle to Wisc long ago since he had more acreage. I never got another gun, even after my wife and I started having kids. I didn't want one in the house while they were growing up.

Fast forward to Dec 8th of last month. I applied for my first ever FOID card and want to get a new semi auto pistol, most likely in a 9mm.
In Illinois, the State Police pretty much want you to apply online, which I did. It specifically says all applications will be approved or rejected within 30 days. After about a week, I started checking the online status only to be met with the "under consideration" tag...day after day after day.

I finally thought maybe they aren't updating the website and mine is in the mail. I called the site today and was put on hold for over 10 minutes---all the while a recording kept breaking in saying "Due to the high volume of applicants, there might be a considerable wait." I probably heard that about 30 times. I finally was able to talk to a female rep.

I informed that I was inquiring on my status since it said they would issue or deny in 30 days. Today is the 35th day. She stated, It says "Under Review!".   I informed her that I was aware of that but it says on the website, a decision will be rendered in 30 days. Once again she stated the obvious....I then asked if the website is in fact updated with status changes and assured it was.

Hmmm, I'm beginning to see why law abiding people don't want to go through the legal channels with the delays and hoops you have to jump through. Thankfully, the card will be good for 10 yrs, I think.

Not that a smart mouth would possibly help, but I would have been tempted to ask if IL had more than one or two people that work this backlog of FOID applications?  And it this a union job?

[old2soon]

Before all the gubmint bull crap I actually resided in Illinois.  I've since lived in Texas then Colorado and now Missouri. If you do NOT see the pattern here-at the time I lived in each mucho easier to get weapons and ammo. I have a few gubmint mandated hoops to get thru here in Missouri but lots easier than say Illinois or some other states that make it down right difficult if not near impossible to purchase firearms and/or ammo. While I choose to C C W-open carry is legal here in Missouri. I spent almost 3 weeks with my brother and S I L and I felt mostly undressed there-Illinois. Went to one gun show there in Illinois and 3 or 4 gun shops. When they splained the Illinois C C W class and the cost I just kinda shook my head an backed away. While the feds told Illinois to cut the bullshit and get with the program-again-I'm fairly certain they did NOT tell Illinois it had to be easy and inexpensive.  Last time I looked Missouri extended reciprocity to Illinois but NOT vice versa.  Other states also extend reciprocity to Illinois but I haven't checked to see which ones Illinois extends reciprocity to IF any. Wonder how many more have to be wounded or killed-Philly and San Berdoo-before more people WAKE up?  RIDE SAFE.

[wiggydotcom]

Wiggy I got my first gun at the age of 7 and guess what no matter what the libs want you to think it has NEVER killed anything that I didn't want it to  and yes I still have it ???

That's cool. I shot my first shotgun at 5 yrs old. It was a single shot 12 guage with no recoil pad. My Dad asked if I wanted to shoot it...probably a BIG mistake, he later admitted.  He stood behind me and I can still remember the incident plain as day. I was probably all of 3 foot tall. The gun was so heavy, I could only point it into the ground a couple feet in front of me. When I hit the trigger, I dropped the gun from the recoil. It spun me around and Dad caught me. My two older brothers had the look of horror on their faces.

Years later, whenever I shot that shotgun as a teenager, I still had to get used to the first few shots and the kick it put out with those Magnum shells. 

[wiggydotcom]

I'll give you a real life Illinois situation but first a little background.

I'm not against guns and never have been. I got my first gun as a 12 yr old. Dad took me to Montgomery Wards and I bought a bolt action .22 rifle for 15 bucks with my paper route money(1967).

I was shooting it unsupervised at that same age...after gun safety lessons by Dad. I also hunted at an early age.
With that said, Dad took my rifle to Wisc long ago since he had more acreage. I never got another gun, even after my wife and I started having kids. I didn't want one in the house while they were growing up.

Fast forward to Dec 8th of last month. I applied for my first ever FOID card and want to get a new semi auto pistol, most likely in a 9mm.
In Illinois, the State Police pretty much want you to apply online, which I did. It specifically says all applications will be approved or rejected within 30 days. After about a week, I started checking the online status only to be met with the "under consideration" tag...day after day after day.

I finally thought maybe they aren't updating the website and mine is in the mail. I called the site today and was put on hold for over 10 minutes---all the while a recording kept breaking in saying "Due to the high volume of applicants, there might be a considerable wait." I probably heard that about 30 times. I finally was able to talk to a female rep.

I informed that I was inquiring on my status since it said they would issue or deny in 30 days. Today is the 35th day. She stated, It says "Under Review!".   I informed her that I was aware of that but it says on the website, a decision will be rendered in 30 days. Once again she stated the obvious....I then asked if the website is in fact updated with status changes and assured it was.

Hmmm, I'm beginning to see why law abiding people don't want to go through the legal channels with the delays and hoops you have to jump through. Thankfully, the card will be good for 10 yrs, I think.

Not that a smart mouth would possibly help, but I would have been tempted to ask if IL had more than one or two people that work this backlog of FOID applications?  And it this a union job?

Jess, those were my exact thoughts..cept for the union part..lol. I did mention twice that their own site said a decision would be rendered in 30 days or less. Then I decided, I better not blackball myself and push that issue.

[czuch]

Well, all I can say is things are a lot better since they got meth off the shelf.

[Master Blaster]

Now here is some gun control we can all get behind.

https://www.facebook.com/sophea.sin.16/videos/868773379909700/?fref=nf

[Jess from VA]

Notice how when you get shot with the Big .50, no one checks your vitals. 

[..]

Clever blend of computer game and live action.