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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2016, 06:11:43 PM » |
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Folks are certainly going nuts in Manchester tonight. Democrats there want the socialist ! Maybe, and maybe not. Like happens on our side of the isle, maybe folks are voting against someone more than for someone. |
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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2016, 06:33:43 PM » |
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Folks are certainly going nuts in Manchester tonight. Democrats there want the socialist ! Maybe, and maybe not. Like happens on our side of the isle, maybe folks are voting against someone more than for someone.  |
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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2016, 07:18:19 PM » |
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Bernie simply polls as someone more honest than the other choice
Perhaps folks just dont trust Hillary any more than Obama and a vote for Sanders is just a vote against things as they are now
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« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2016, 04:04:37 AM » |
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According to CBS, 69% of woman under 45 voted for Sanders in NH.
I'm hoping this is the start of Dems realizing what a bad choice H. Clinton would be as the first woman president.
I feel this county is ready for a woman as president, but there has to be a better choice the Clinton.
The test will be SC. A lot of Obama and so called "under privileged" voters that Clinton is targeting with promises of more gov handouts and programs.
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« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2016, 05:19:24 AM » |
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Well, maybe the dems were voting against rather than for a particular person. But, from the crowd reactions whenever bernie said anything about all his 'freebie's' the crowd would go crazy which kinda tells me just how many folks want a socialist country.
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Well, maybe the dems were voting against rather than for a particular person. But, from the crowd reactions whenever bernie said anything about all his 'freebie's' the crowd would go crazy which kinda tells me just how many folks want a socialist country.
You are right Patrick, but unfortunately it is the vast numbers of voters who don't have to pay the bills with tax money. The larger that number grows each year, the more the people who do pay are likely to quit paying. The number of people giving up their citizenship has grown larger each year and as the business climate gets worse more of them will move to better financial climates as well. For all of the ridicule that was given to Ayn Rand back in the 50's and 60's, it looks as though she was very prophetic in her forecast of our future. I'm glad I'm 65 instead of 25. "A change you can believe in." I believe the change will finish the destruction this once great nation and we will not only have permitted it to happen, we will have made the choice for it to happen. |
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Did you see the front page of one newspaper showing Trump as the joker and all his voters referred to as "brain dead." My thoughts then were....how about all the so-called "brain dead" that voted for the fool in the White House now. That's a pretty poor commentary on the populace as a whole, including the media.
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Well, maybe the dems were voting against rather than for a particular person. But, from the crowd reactions whenever bernie said anything about all his 'freebie's' the crowd would go crazy which kinda tells me just how many folks want a socialist country.
You are right Patrick, but unfortunately it is the vast numbers of voters who don't have to pay the bills with tax money. The larger that number grows each year, the more the people who do pay are likely to quit paying. The number of people giving up their citizenship has grown larger each year and as the business climate gets worse more of them will move to better financial climates as well. For all of the ridicule that was given to Ayn Rand back in the 50's and 60's, it looks as though she was very prophetic in her forecast of our future. I'm glad I'm 65 instead of 25. "A change you can believe in." I believe the change will finish the destruction this once great nation and we will not only have permitted it to happen, we will have made the choice for it to happen. I find it interesting what the Canadians say that I've had the chance to talk to this winter. As liberal as Canada is supposed to be, they think we are crazy in the direction this country is going. They also say their country isn't as great as some in this country think it is. I am surprised [ or was at one time] the way people here are beginning to think. History shows/proves that socialism doesn't work, but, by damn, we are Americans and we can make it work ! This country is full of ill-informed low information people, or, they just don't care about the future and want everything right now at the future generations expense. I also can't believe that there are some that believe the government/administration stats. We live in a trumped up [ no relationship to the Donald] economy and believe there will be another crash. |
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« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2016, 06:51:50 AM » |
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There is no sense quoting as I agree with everything that has been written above.
Exits polls last night. Honest and trustworthy / Sanders 91 - Beast 5 ouch I guess they get it, wake up lame stream. No more Clintons.
Anger at the Republican party and establishment so to say / Trump wins 45 percent Then Cruz, Rubio each less than 20percent.
Trump spent 3 million in NH, I heard Kasich spent 3 million and another said 12 million so not sure.
Jeb spent 36 million. Wow wonder what his establishment donors are thinking today. He spent the second most time in NH next to Kasich. Answer No more Bushes.
Point to ponder. If Trump can win this big with such a little investment does this mean he would do the same with the nations bankroll? In other words get a whole lot more bang for the buck?
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It would think those who are against big government would like Sanders policies.
Democratic socialism is different than socialism.
Democratic socialism believes in a socialism through the ballot box. It states that any change in government and society should be through fair elections.
On another note, I can't believe the Trump train is still on the tracks.
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« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2016, 07:30:44 AM » |
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Point to ponder. If Trump can win this big with such a little investment does this mean he would do the same with the nations bankroll? In other words get a whole lot more bang for the buck?
This is what they ALL should be striving for. Instead of the $300 hammer, the gov't should have bought 60 hammers for that price. Problem is nobody in gov't says NO. O'Reilly exposed the $12.00 muffin at some law enforcement thing. The bakery was charging triple what it would charge in their store because they know there's nobody there that's gonna question the prices. I'm pretty sure nobody in Trump's organizations paid $300 for a hammer or a toilet seat. He's also right when he says we have hacks making deals that effect our country and its security. What background does Kerry or even Obama have in negotiating nuclear weapons deals with know supporters of world-wide terrorism?? Seriously, what has either of them done to be at a negotiations table of any kind with middle eastern leaders who have vowed to kill us and Israel? Look how bad Obama and Clinton phuked it up, and they double downed on it with Kerry negotiated a nuke deal with Iran. Can Trump do better? Can't possibly do worse. |
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« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2016, 08:06:02 AM » |
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It would think those who are against big government would like Sanders policies.
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It would think those who are against big government would like Sanders policies.
Democratic socialism is different than socialism.
Democratic socialism believes in a socialism through the ballot box. It states that any change in government and society should be through fair elections.
On another note, I can't believe the Trump train is still on the tracks.
Democratic socialism believes in a socialism through the ballot box. And when that is not possible Democratic socialism believes in a socialism through executive order. And when that's not possible Democratic socialism believes in a socialism through dictate. Then when that doesn't work the police/military persuasion is applied. I believe there is a playbook. Yes, very much different than just your standard socialism. |
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« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2016, 10:41:05 AM » |
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I fear most of you miss the point. There is an organized, well funded, socialist movement afoot is this country. A great number of young folks, young folks that have never been educated about the folly of socialism, subscribe to this "change". They put their hope in Obama and never saw it come to fruition.
I have had numerous from this demographic inform me of their utter distance for the constitution. They say it's outmoded and needs changing, at the very least. They have a misplaced belief that social justice is the overwhelming issue of the 21st century. They are tired of the super rich growing in numbers as the middle class shrinks and the underclass grows. They blame it on crony capitalism. They fail to understand that most of the new rich are their classmates, who disregarded the corrupt teachings of their professors, and instead set out to grab their piece of the pie.
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« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2016, 01:16:48 PM » |
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It would think those who are against big government would like Sanders policies.
Democratic socialism is different than socialism.
Democratic socialism believes in a socialism through the ballot box. It states that any change in government and society should be through fair elections.
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It would think those who are against big government would like Sanders policies.
Democratic socialism is different than socialism.
Democratic socialism believes in a socialism through the ballot box. It states that any change in government and society should be through fair elections.
On another note, I can't believe the Trump train is still on the tracks.
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It would think those who are against big government would like Sanders policies.
Democratic socialism is different than socialism.
Democratic socialism believes in a socialism through the ballot box. It states that any change in government and society should be through fair elections.
On another note, I can't believe the Trump train is still on the tracks.
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It would think those who are against big government would like Sanders policies.
Democratic socialism is different than socialism.
Democratic socialism believes in a socialism through the ballot box. It states that any change in government and society should be through fair elections.
On another note, I can't believe the Trump train is still on the tracks.
Please list 4 SUCCESSFUL Socialist countries. Democratic or not. I know the question wasn't asked of me but I will take a shot at it. Germany, Canada, England, Sweden |
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It would think those who are against big government would like Sanders policies.
Democratic socialism is different than socialism.
Democratic socialism believes in a socialism through the ballot box. It states that any change in government and society should be through fair elections.
On another note, I can't believe the Trump train is still on the tracks.
Please list 4 SUCCESSFUL Socialist countries. Democratic or not. I know the question wasn't asked of me but I will take a shot at it. Germany, Canada, England, Sweden The Parliament of Germany, the Bundestag, has a plural multi-party system, with two major parties, the Social Democratic Party of Germany (SPD) and the Christian Democratic Union (CDU), with its sister party, the Christian Social Union (CSU) in the same parliamentary group, also known as CDU/CSU or the Union. The Liberal Party of Canada (French: Parti libéral du Canada), colloquially known as the Grits, is the oldest federal political party in Canada. The party espouses the principles of liberalism, and generally sits at the centre of the Canadian political spectrum.[5][6][7] The Liberal Party is positioned to the left of the Conservative Party of Canada and to the right of the New Democratic Party (NDP Sweden https://sweden.se/society/the-swedish-system-of-government/England - really? Really? REALLY? Sheesh! |
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Really ! While not Socialist in the purist form. Just about everybody on here would consider a country that provides healthcare, social services, etc. to its citizens a socialist country. Hell we aren't even close to that and many here believe we are socialist.  |
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Really ! While not Socialist in the purist form. Just about everybody on here would consider a country that provides healthcare, social services, etc. to its citizens a socialist country. Hell we aren't even close to that and many here believe we are socialist. My question was to list 4 successful Socialist countries. Not what someone "assumes" is a Socialist country according to their misguided definition. Here's the definition http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialismNow can you list them? Let's make it easier. List 3. ps Bernie is left of the definition above. That's why the mouth foaming economic dullards think he will give them free stuff with nary a thought of how the free stuff gets paid for. |
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I've not had the opportunity to talk to anyone from Germany or England about this subject, but, I have with a number of folks from Canada and Sweden. I mentioned such a few days ago about Canada.
Just sit and have a few drinks with the folks from these countries rather than just think about what you think it is like living there.
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I've not had the opportunity to talk to anyone from Germany or England about this subject, but, I have with a number of folks from Canada and Sweden. I mentioned such a few days ago about Canada.
Just sit and have a few drinks with the folks from these countries rather than just think about what you think it is like living there.
Had a conversation with a nurse from Canada, visiting here, and another guy. They were talking about healthcare. I already new about the "death" panels in Canada, but from the guys reply to her confirmation, he either didn't know it or didn't believe it. He exclaimed that he thought it was barbaric. The nurse confirmed that the elderly are regularly refused treatments that could postpone their lives for several more years, but due to decisions made in a meeting room with doughnuts and coffee, decisions are made to withhold treatment. Also, the latest therapeutics are not on formulary in these countries because of cost. I read that less than 40% for Canadians are happy with their healthcare system. |
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I've not had the opportunity to talk to anyone from Germany or England about this subject, but, I have with a number of folks from Canada and Sweden. I mentioned such a few days ago about Canada.
Just sit and have a few drinks with the folks from these countries rather than just think about what you think it is like living there.
Had a conversation with a nurse from Canada, visiting here, and another guy. They were talking about healthcare. I already new about the "death" panels in Canada, but from the guys reply to her confirmation, he either didn't know it or didn't believe it. He exclaimed that he thought it was barbaric. The nurse confirmed that the elderly are regularly refused treatments that could postpone their lives for several more years, but due to decisions made in a meeting room with doughnuts and coffee, decisions are made to withhold treatment. Also, the latest therapeutics are not on formulary in these countries because of cost. I read that less than 40% for Canadians are happy with their healthcare system. The last paragraph seems to be at odds with your statement. |
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I've not had the opportunity to talk to anyone from Germany or England about this subject, but, I have with a number of folks from Canada and Sweden. I mentioned such a few days ago about Canada.
Just sit and have a few drinks with the folks from these countries rather than just think about what you think it is like living there.
Had a conversation with a nurse from Canada, visiting here, and another guy. They were talking about healthcare. I already new about the "death" panels in Canada, but from the guys reply to her confirmation, he either didn't know it or didn't believe it. He exclaimed that he thought it was barbaric. The nurse confirmed that the elderly are regularly refused treatments that could postpone their lives for several more years, but due to decisions made in a meeting room with doughnuts and coffee, decisions are made to withhold treatment. Also, the latest therapeutics are not on formulary in these countries because of cost. I read that less than 40% for Canadians are happy with their healthcare system. The last paragraph seems to be at odds with your statement. The next to the last paragraph seems to support G-Man's position. But we all know that the surveys are written to support the pre-conceived ideals of the surveys. |
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I've not had the opportunity to talk to anyone from Germany or England about this subject, but, I have with a number of folks from Canada and Sweden. I mentioned such a few days ago about Canada.
Just sit and have a few drinks with the folks from these countries rather than just think about what you think it is like living there.
Had a conversation with a nurse from Canada, visiting here, and another guy. They were talking about healthcare. I already new about the "death" panels in Canada, but from the guys reply to her confirmation, he either didn't know it or didn't believe it. He exclaimed that he thought it was barbaric. The nurse confirmed that the elderly are regularly refused treatments that could postpone their lives for several more years, but due to decisions made in a meeting room with doughnuts and coffee, decisions are made to withhold treatment. Also, the latest therapeutics are not on formulary in these countries because of cost. I read that less than 40% for Canadians are happy with their healthcare system. The last paragraph seems to be at odds with your statement. The next to the last paragraph seems to support G-Man's position. But we all know that the surveys are written to support the pre-conceived ideals of the surveys. Doesn't matter what I write, seems his job here is to contradict almost everything I write. We could be different by 10% here, or in this case one paragraph saying one thing and another saying something else, but it's still his job to discredit me. I don't know why. I don't go after every one of HIS posts, although there is plenty of opportunity to discredit what he writes. I just don't think it's necessary. He even feels it's his job to defend others that I disagree with. Then I have to defend my self to HIM. And it's always about semantics, nothing very real. And this one proves it. One paragraph in HIS article says the majority thinks it needs an overhaul (I didn't quote it exactly, before I get poked for it). So 40- something % are OK with it. What I read was off by 10%. I stand by my post. |
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Just sit and have a few drinks with the folks from these countries rather than just think about what you think it is like living there.
Had a conversation with a nurse from Canada, visiting here, and another guy. They were talking about healthcare. I already new about the "death" panels in Canada, but from the guys reply to her confirmation, he either didn't know it or didn't believe it. He exclaimed that he thought it was barbaric. The nurse confirmed that the elderly are regularly refused treatments that could postpone Prolong(?) their lives for several more years, but due to decisions made in a meeting room with doughnuts and coffee, decisions are made to withhold treatment. Also, the latest therapeutics are not on formulary in these countries because of cost. I read that less than 40% for Canadians are happy with their healthcare system. |
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Just sit and have a few drinks with the folks from these countries rather than just think about what you think it is like living there.
Had a conversation with a nurse from Canada, visiting here, and another guy. They were talking about healthcare. I already new about the "death" panels in Canada, but from the guys reply to her confirmation, he either didn't know it or didn't believe it. He exclaimed that he thought it was barbaric. The nurse confirmed that the elderly are regularly refused treatments that could postpone their lives for several more years, but due to decisions made in a meeting room with doughnuts and coffee, decisions are made to withhold treatment. Also, the latest therapeutics are not on formulary in these countries because of cost. I read that less than 40% for Canadians are happy with their healthcare system. The last paragraph seems to be at odds with your statement. The next to the last paragraph seems to support G-Man's position. But we all know that the surveys are written to support the pre-conceived ideals of the surveys. I think this is a case of everyone being right regarding opinions of Canada's health care system, but the survey answers vary depending on the question asked. Here's my unscientific opinion, as someone not in the health care field. 1. The vast majority of Canadians are very happy to be living with our socialized health care system rather than the American free market system, because (a) for the vast majority of the things we need treatment for, we don't have to worry about costs, and (b), with the exception of those with very expensive drug requirements, we don't feel stuck in terrible employment situations because if we quit our jobs we will lose medical coverage. 2. We are very aware of the failings of our system, especially when we can compare them directly with American measurements. Examples of this are (a) unreasonable hours waiting for treatment in emergency when our ailments are urgent but not as urgent as others (current wait time for the ER nearest me is 2.5 hours), (b) unreasonable waits to see specialists and for non-urgent surgeries such as joint replacements, and (c) some very expensive new drug therapies or technologies are either unavailable or take longer to become available than in the US. 3. We are aware of the increasing costs, especially as expensive new treatments are being implemented. We know that tough decisions will have to be made as our demographics trend towards higher proportions of seniors who require more treatment. |
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Lady friend has growing bump on back of right ankle. Having just got a cancer all clear she's understandably perturbed.
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Friend in England died whilst waiting to see a specialist. Didn't receive any treatment apart from pain killers. Sister in law died from leukemia whilst waiting to see a specialist. Didn't receive any treatment apart from pain killers. I've written it here before but some refuse to either read or comprehend the words. If the English NHS IS SO GOOD why are there so many private health and private hospitals in the country. If the English NHS IS SO GOOD why do many go abroad to get medical assistance in a timely manner? The willingly ignorant will continue to suck air in their collective ass's due to their heads being firmly embedded in sand. |
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Washington Post ? I don't pay much attention to what they say. In fact, I don't pay any attention to what they say. They lean pretty far left, so much so I think they're about to fall over.
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« Reply #36 on: February 11, 2016, 06:29:15 PM » |
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Washington Post ? I don't pay much attention to what they say. In fact, I don't pay any attention to what they say. They lean pretty far left, so much so I think they're about to fall over.
The poll was done by Gallup. What do you think of them ? |
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« Reply #37 on: February 11, 2016, 07:22:13 PM » |
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I will be at InZane in June, if anyone is interested in learning a bit more than what you may have heard or think you know about Canadian politics, Healthcare system, etc and Canadians' thoughts about our own country in general (well, if there's time in between meeting folks, talking Valkyries, and riding around discovering West Virginia). I have almost 60 years of experience being a Canadian (September can wait as long as it wants to arrive this year as far as I'm concerned  ), and I travel extensively to, and have many friends and clients in all regions of this country as well as many regions in the US. There are always differing perspectives to every theory and on every issue, and one tends to believe in the perspective they hear that fits their own personal beliefs and ideologies. As Gryphon Rider states, the vast majority of Canadians are generally satisfied with our health care system despite its well known warts (especially when compared to the current US system) Meathead....Canada could only be considered a "Socialist" country by those to the considerable Right of centre Every country has its share of complainers, freeloaders, and system abusers and every country has its own failings....Canada is no different, but just like in the US and other countries, the vast majority of Canadians are proud of our country, our heritige, and wouldn't choose to live elsewhere. Mind you....this is only MY perspective... |
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« Reply #38 on: February 11, 2016, 07:28:02 PM » |
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I will be at InZane in June, if anyone is interested in learning a bit more than what you may have heard or think you know about Canadian politics, Healthcare system, etc and Canadians' thoughts about our own country in general (well, if there's time in between meeting folks, talking Valkyries, and riding around discovering West Virginia). I have almost 60 years of experience being a Canadian (September can wait as long as it wants to arrive this year as far as I'm concerned ), and I travel extensively to, and have many friends and clients in all regions of this country as well as many regions in the US. There are always differing perspectives to every theory and on every issue, and one tends to believe in the perspective they hear that fits their own personal beliefs and ideologies. As Gryphon Rider states, the vast majority of Canadians are generally satisfied with our health care system despite its well known warts (especially when compared to the current US system) Meathead....Canada could only be considered a "Socialist" country by those to the considerable Right of centre Every country has its share of complainers, freeloaders, and system abusers and every country has its own failings....Canada is no different, but just like in the US and other countries, the vast majority of Canadians are proud of our country, our heritige, and wouldn't choose to live elsewhere. Mind you....this is only MY perspective... |
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