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Jess from VA
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« on: February 13, 2016, 02:04:43 PM »

For the man, and for the nation.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/us-world/article/Senior-Associate-Justice-Antonin-Scalia-found-6828930.php

We've been 5-4 on a number of very important decisions, and he's part of the five (often writing the opinion).

Zero must not be given another socialist appointment (under any circumstances).
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2016, 02:07:58 PM »

Let's hope the Republicans can find their spine and hold off any appointees from Obama until after the election...

If not, we're screwed.

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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2016, 02:21:03 PM »

Let's hope the Republicans can find their spine and hold off any appointees from Obama until after the election...

If not, we're screwed.


Obstruction ? Nah they'd never dream of it.
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2016, 02:46:58 PM »

Believe I would be more inclined to call it preservation than obstruction.
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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2016, 02:47:56 PM »

Let's hope the Republicans can find their spine and hold off any appointees from Obama until after the election...

If not, we're screwed.


Obstruction ? Nah they'd never dream of it.


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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2016, 03:26:45 PM »

They're already excited, this was from one of the left-leaning sites I keep an eye on.

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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2016, 03:30:24 PM »

You guys forgot already...... Hillary suggested the O be appointed to the Supreme Court and said she would.  O just took her at her word and made the position available.

Oh my.....
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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2016, 03:30:48 PM »

yep you beat me to it.  I came to the PC to post, I'll bet a buck zero will try to put holder in there.  The RINOs in the senate damn well better block the SOB.  No more appointments from the lame duck.  This is exactly what has worried me most about the dirtbag's legacy.  F'n up the balance in the SCOTUS.
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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2016, 03:37:41 PM »

Snatching Defeat from the Jaws of Victory.  Do you think that the Repubs have the guts to do a "Bork"?
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« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2016, 03:45:37 PM »

Better fasten your helmet straps, guys. I can easily see your current President getting the job.
I can already hear heads exploding all over this board.  angel
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« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2016, 03:52:29 PM »

Better fasten your helmet straps, guys. I can easily see your current President getting the job.
I can already hear heads exploding all over this board.  angel

Surely, you understand that would require a confirmation and I sincerely doubt that's going to happen.   So, I'm not going to get excited about that happening.    In fact, I doubt there will be one confirmed until after the next person fills the Oval Office.   
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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2016, 03:57:41 PM »

Never mind...Just announced he will nominate someone. CNN thinks it will be an Indian/American D.C. Judge. This should get interesting.
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« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2016, 03:59:43 PM »

Better fasten your helmet straps, guys. I can easily see your current President getting the job.
I can already hear heads exploding all over this board.  angel


Surely, you understand that would require a confirmation and I sincerely doubt that's going to happen.   So, I'm not going to get excited about that happening.    In fact, I doubt there will be one confirmed until after the next person fills the Oval Office.  


I think he's assuming the next president will be Hillary, who would quid pro quo Obama by nominating him.

Senate leader McConnell (The weak spined RINO) has come out saying no one should be approved by the senate until the next president is seated:

“The American people‎ should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice. Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president,”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/feb/13/fight-over-antonin-scalia-replacement-heats-democr/
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« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2016, 04:00:27 PM »

Better fasten your helmet straps, guys. I can easily see your current President getting the job.
I can already hear heads exploding all over this board.  angel

Surely, you understand that would require a confirmation and I sincerely doubt that's going to happen.   So, I'm not going to get excited about that happening.    In fact, I doubt there will be one confirmed until after the next person fills the Oval Office.   

I'm talking about after the election. If democrats win, he could be appointed. Who the hell knows...craziest political stuff going on...so entertaining.
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« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2016, 04:24:32 PM »

Better fasten your helmet straps, guys. I can easily see your current President getting the job.
I can already hear heads exploding all over this board.  angel


Surely, you understand that would require a confirmation and I sincerely doubt that's going to happen.   So, I'm not going to get excited about that happening.    In fact, I doubt there will be one confirmed until after the next person fills the Oval Office.  


I think he's assuming the next president will be Hillary, who would quid pro quo Obama by nominating him.

Senate leader McConnell (The weak spined RINO) has come out saying no one should be approved by the senate until the next president is seated:

“The American people‎ should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice. Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president,”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/feb/13/fight-over-antonin-scalia-replacement-heats-democr/


Mr McConnell is confused. There is a sitting president in place with time still on the clock, who was chosen by the people. He has every right to nominate a justice to the Supreme Court. But you're right, it is going to be very interesting.
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« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2016, 04:26:02 PM »

Better fasten your helmet straps, guys. I can easily see your current President getting the job.
I can already hear heads exploding all over this board.  angel

Surely, you understand that would require a confirmation and I sincerely doubt that's going to happen.   So, I'm not going to get excited about that happening.    In fact, I doubt there will be one confirmed until after the next person fills the Oval Office.   

I'm talking about after the election. If democrats win, he could be appointed. Who the hell knows...craziest political stuff going on...so entertaining.

I think I saw that Obama has already stated that he has no interest in the position. It would be interesting though, wouldn't it?
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« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2016, 04:42:58 PM »

Better fasten your helmet straps, guys. I can easily see your current President getting the job.
I can already hear heads exploding all over this board.  angel

Surely, you understand that would require a confirmation and I sincerely doubt that's going to happen.   So, I'm not going to get excited about that happening.    In fact, I doubt there will be one confirmed until after the next person fills the Oval Office.  

I think people forget, he has over 11 months in office. You really can't keep the court at 4/4 that long. There would be no rulings.





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« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2016, 04:56:44 PM »

Regardless of who Obama nominates, that person still must be confirmed.    I doubt that's going to happen. 
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« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2016, 05:01:58 PM »

Regardless of who Obama nominates, that person still must be confirmed.    I doubt that's going to happen. 

Knowing the senate won't give the lame duck appointee a confirmation, it'll be interesting to see if he chooses to go full moon-bat or if he tries to pick a moderate and hopes they'll get through...

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« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2016, 05:06:02 PM »

The President has every right (PER THE CONSTITUITION) to select Justice Scalia's successor.

By tradition - he usually selects someone with the proper legal background who gets an endorsement from an association of Lawyers on the qualifications of the proposed candidate .

Then it goes to Congress for confirmation.  (part of that Checks and balances thing).

I think it would be a BAD THING to let this hang until the next president has been seated.

The fact of the matter is that Obama knows that a too far left leaning Justice wouldn't be confirmed anymore than Bork was - he  (/she) might be left leaning, but not an extremist.
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« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2016, 05:47:22 PM »

Kind of interesting O has taken a beating in a few decisions in the Supreme Court,  immigration and EPA guidelines among them and now a conservative Justice is dead,  Roll Eyes

No matter what judge is put in there may be favoritism to the current admin just like Holder or the current head lawyer.

Kennedy anyone?
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« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2016, 05:51:57 PM »

Kind of interesting O has taken a beating in a few decisions in the Supreme Courts ruling and now a conservative Justice is dead,  Roll Eyes

Yeah, kind of.....
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« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2016, 05:58:10 PM »

I'd kinda like to see who Obama would appoint to the position before I would pass judgement on the selection.

To toss someone in there just to pick a fight would not sit well with anyone of any political persuasion.

As to the Hillary Clinton conspiracy theory that she would chose Obama if she becomes President and they are going to wait because of it, the reality is that the Court is very likely to lose at least a couple more during the next Administration.

My guess is that we can expect a well qualified slightly left leaning centrist as Obama's pick and the Congress will approve quickly. The pick will neither be conservative enough for the right nor liberal enough for the left but eminently qualified for both.

Got no idea who it would be. OOOOooo the suspense!
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« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2016, 06:17:15 PM »

But leading Republicans want the new president - who will take office in January - to select his replacement.

Democrats have balked at that suggestion, with Presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton saying it would "dishonor our constitution" to leave the post vacant for so long.
http://news.sky.com/story/1641635/us-supreme-court-justice-antonin-scalia-dies

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« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2016, 06:21:58 PM »

Well, we'll just have to wait and see who Obama nominates and see if they get vetted and survive the confirmation hearings.   Should be interesting.
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« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2016, 06:26:43 PM »

Well, we'll just have to wait and see who Obama nominates and see if they get vetted and survive the confirmation hearings.   Should be interesting.

Current scuttlebutt is this guy is top of the list - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Srinivasan

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« Reply #26 on: February 13, 2016, 07:03:39 PM »

Then it goes to Congress for confirmation.  (part of that Checks and balances thing).

Actually, presidential appointment with advice and consent of the Senate.

Indeed it is a fundamental part of constitutional checks and balances.  If the Zero throws up another  Ginsburg, Sotomayor, or Kagan (like Holder), he/she will not be confirmed, and that is not obstructionism, it is constitutional due process. 

The requirement for Advice and consent of the Senate is not a rubber stamp.

The Zero has every right to throw up a nomination.  Lets see if he cares about the Country, or just wants more of the Barry Divisiveness, Hate and Discontent Show.
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« Reply #27 on: February 13, 2016, 07:32:12 PM »

Kind of interesting O has taken a beating in a few decisions in the Supreme Courts ruling and now a conservative Justice is dead,  Roll Eyes

Yeah, kind of.....

I'm glad I'm not the only one to find this ironic
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« Reply #28 on: February 13, 2016, 07:41:19 PM »

If this goes until next January when Congress is out and before Obama's term is over then we may have this to look forward to;


Article II, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution provides that:

The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session.


Thus, when the Senate is in recess, the President may make a temporary appointment to any office requiring Senate approval, including filling vacancies on the Supreme Court, without the Senate's advice and consent. Such a recess appointee to the Supreme Court holds office only until the end of the next Senate session (at most, less than two years)
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« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2016, 04:16:03 AM »

If O picks a republican I will be very surprised

If he picks Cruz I will be stunned

Looking for a black woman lesbian as his 1st  pick  Mrs O?

Note to NSA  Thats a joke son
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« Reply #30 on: February 14, 2016, 04:46:15 AM »

Then it goes to Congress for confirmation.  (part of that Checks and balances thing).

Actually, presidential appointment with advice and consent of the Senate.

Indeed it is a fundamental part of constitutional checks and balances.  If the Zero throws up another  Ginsburg, Sotomayor, or Kagan (like Holder), he/she will not be confirmed, and that is not obstructionism, it is constitutional due process. 

The requirement for Advice and consent of the Senate is not a rubber stamp.

The Zero has every right to throw up a nomination.  Lets see if he cares about the Country, or just wants more of the Barry Divisiveness, Hate and Discontent Show.
I agree. As long as they call hearings and have a vote that is all they can do. If they vote the nominee down they vote the nominee down. Where it would become obstruction would be if they don't call a hearing and won't vote. Which is the direction they seem to want to go as of now. We shall see.
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« Reply #31 on: February 14, 2016, 06:00:44 AM »

Note to NSA  Thats a joke son

Duly noted.
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« Reply #32 on: February 14, 2016, 06:15:46 AM »

Note to NSA  Thats a joke son

Duly noted.

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« Reply #33 on: February 14, 2016, 06:21:44 AM »

Obama has no interest in a supreme appointment, he has bigger things on his mind.  He is looking at heading up the UN. 
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