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Back in 1995, a married couple noticed a limo on the side of the road that had a flat tire. The husband pulled the car over and fixed the tire. The limo belonged to Trump, who thanked the man and asked him how he could repay him for his kind gift. The man suggested sending his wife a bouquet of flowers. Trump agreed… and when the flowers arrived several weeks later, there was a note included that said, “We’ve paid off your mortgage.” On the video he also talks about so much more that Trump has done for people. I have known many wealthy men and have seen some that were generous and some that were misers. They were all business men and good at deals but there were some that just cared for people and situations. This is what I had wanted to hear about Trump, he has my vote. http://conservativepost.com/trumps-limo-broke-down-this-couple-helped-him-and-so-he-did-thisepic/
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Well, I don't understand. Even if true(doubtful. Its an urban legend promoted by Trump and his Minions) how does that make anyone qualified to be president? Frankly, I'd prefer someone with experience in the difficult world of national and international politics even if they are a pragmatic, hard nosed SOB (or DOB). In my view the GOP has only one half way qualified candidate still running. He's trailing because he wants to address issues that need to be rather than participate in the constant childish squabbles of the rest of the sorry excuses for statesmen.
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Well, I don't understand. Even if true(doubtful considering the source) how does that make anyone qualified to be president? Frankly, I'd prefer someone with experience in the difficult world of national and international politics even if they are a pragmatic, hard nosed SOB (or DOB). In my view the GOP has only one half way qualified candidate still running. He's trailing because he wants to address issues that need to be rather than participate in the constant childish squabbles of the rest of the sorry excuses for statesmen.
Yet the other side has a person who's held several positions within gov't, yet no accomplishments but plenty of scandals and investigations. It was bad enough having Obama and Kerry conducting nuclear arms deals with terrorists. Do you really want Hillary in that seat? Maybe she'll bring her reset button to the table.
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Read in the news today that the Donald has been breaking the law by importing workers and underpaying them although he rants against the practice as stealing American jobs. Of course I know that the conservative media will justify this particular instance as being justified, just as they predictably demonize other folks who need not be named.
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Read in the news today that the Donald has been breaking the law by importing workers and underpaying them although he rants against the practice as stealing American jobs. Of course I know that the conservative media will justify this particular instance as being justified, just as they predictably demonize other folks who need not be named.
Unfortunately this practice is legal. At least as I understand it.
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Please give us your definition of underpaid. Thanks. What were they paid and what should they have been paid?
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Read in the news today that the Donald has been breaking the law by importing workers and underpaying them although he rants against the practice as stealing American jobs. Of course I know that the conservative media will justify this particular instance as being justified, just as they predictably demonize other folks who need not be named.
Please give us your definition of underpaid. Thanks. What were they paid and what should they have been paid? Hillary underpaid women by 30% of what she paid men.
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Read in the news today that the Donald has been breaking the law by importing workers and underpaying them although he rants against the practice as stealing American jobs. Of course I know that the conservative media will justify this particular instance as being justified, just as they predictably demonize other folks who need not be named.
Unfortunately this practice is legal. At least as I understand it. not according to imigration attorneys.j Read in the news today that the Donald has been breaking the law by importing workers and underpaying them although he rants against the practice as stealing American jobs. Of course I know that the conservative media will justify this particular instance as being justified, just as they predictably demonize other folks who need not be named.
Please give us your definition of underpaid. Thanks. What were they paid and what should they have been paid? Hillary underpaid women by 30% of what she paid men. the promise was $200,000 over a 3 year contract. Plaintif received 30,000. Stand by for news! You may need to go out of the right wing comfort zone to read about it. I just checked Drudge Report( yes, I do read that) and there is no mention yet. They will print the REAL story after they get together on what to say to justify it.
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Read in the news today that the Donald has been breaking the law by importing workers and underpaying them although he rants against the practice as stealing American jobs. Of course I know that the conservative media will justify this particular instance as being justified, just as they predictably demonize other folks who need not be named.
Unfortunately this practice is legal. At least as I understand it. not according to imigration attorneys.j Read in the news today that the Donald has been breaking the law by importing workers and underpaying them although he rants against the practice as stealing American jobs. Of course I know that the conservative media will justify this particular instance as being justified, just as they predictably demonize other folks who need not be named.
Please give us your definition of underpaid. Thanks. What were they paid and what should they have been paid? Hillary underpaid women by 30% of what she paid men. the promise was $200,000 over a 3 year contract. Plaintif received 30,000. Stand by for news! You may need to go out of the right wing comfort zone to read about it. I just checked Drudge Report( yes, I do read that) and there is no mention yet. They will print the REAL story after they get together on what to say to justify it. So from you saying workers (plural) it's now one (singular) person ?????? ps I'm not a Trump fan.
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Unfortunately this practice is legal. At least as I understand it. not according to imigration attorneys.j Read in the news today that the Donald has been breaking the law by importing workers and underpaying them although he rants against the practice as stealing American jobs. Of course I know that the conservative media will justify this particular instance as being justified, just as they predictably demonize other folks who need not be named.
Please give us your definition of underpaid. Thanks. What were they paid and what should they have been paid? Hillary underpaid women by 30% of what she paid men. the promise was $200,000 over a 3 year contract. Plaintif received 30,000. Stand by for news! You may need to go out of the right wing comfort zone to read about it. I just checked Drudge Report( yes, I do read that) and there is no mention yet. They will print the REAL story after they get together on what to say to justify it. Does this cancel Trump out????? http://abc7chicago.com/news/state-senator-ordered-to-pay-$23k-in-underpaid-worker-wages/1131327/
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Unfortunately this practice is legal. At least as I understand it. not according to imigration attorneys.j You are saying the workers didn't have a visa to work in this country? https://duckduckgo.com/?q=did+trumps+workers+have+visas%3FIf they did they were here legally so please give us your immigration attorneys FACTS.
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This current admin is directly responsible for this by expanding the provisions of hiring foreign workers
Disney’s employees must endure the indignity of training their foreign replacements
Top Companies in Canada and US Hire Foreign Workers
In recent years, many Canadian and U.S. companies have found that the decision to hire skilled foreign workers is a necessary business move that brings numerous benefits for employers and employees alike.
IBM reached a settlement with Department of Justice over allegations it discriminated against U.S. software and apps developers by favoring job applicants who held H-1B visas or foreign student visas, according to a statement by the Department of Justice on Friday.In the U.S., several of the nation’s top companies are known for hiring skilled labour from outside the country using H-1B temporary work visas, including Microsoft and IBM.
Kelly Parker was thrilled when she landed her dream job in 2012 providing tech support for Harley-Davidson's Tomahawk, Wisc., plants. The divorced mother of three hoped it was the beginning of a new career with the motorcycle company.
The dream didn't last long. Parker claims she was laid off one year later after she trained her replacement, a newly arrived worker from India.
Thank you O "NOT"
White House travel office controversy
The White House stated the firings were done because financial improprieties in the Travel Office operation during previous administrations had been revealed by an FBI investigation. Critics contended the firings were done to allow friends of President Bill Clinton and First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton to take over the travel business and that the involvement of the FBI was unwarranted. Heavy media attention forced the White House to reinstate most of the employees in other jobs and remove the Clinton associates from the travel role.
Hillary Clinton gradually came under scrutiny for allegedly having played a central role in the firings and making false statements about her role in it. In 2000, Independent Counsel Robert Ray issued his final report on Travelgate. He sought no charges against her, saying that while some of Clinton's statements were factually false, there was insufficient evidence that these statements were either knowingly false or that she understood that her statements led to the firings.
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Check and see how many dollars in the 6 and 7 figures they gave to the guy and you will know why. Follow the money. I imagine they gave in large amounts to Romney also. Just covering their base for the good of the middle class who always takes in on the chin. Chuck
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I have been saying for 35 yrs (and got a C in Corp Law to prove it) that there is NO obligation to be patriotic for any corporation but there should be The obligation is to the shareholder Now if someone wanted to make their own by laws differently that has yet to happen though If the CEO and Board want to take advantage of tax and worker laws then that is acting in the interest of the shareholders, even outsourcing and big bonus payments get by Now China and others are snapping up our big corporations because our T bills are worthless compared to owning the whole company its no contest. It will take a major crash of the system to get them out, worse than the one that got the Japanese out Trump is a master of the game but he has produced jobs by his own hand. Who else has done anything but suck on the government hind tit I hate some of what comes from his mouth but give him credit for saying much of what needs to be said and done He does not seem to care what others think of him or what he says KInd of like Willow in that one regard but with a lot more money I think Too bad Trump's wife doesnt come to Inzane to bake pies, she would be fun to see on the back of a Valk 
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If it matters to anyone, I saw this story several years ago. I thought it was a pretty good thing to do for someone. Trump is a case of walking contradictions. Hard to read, and very outspoken. I would NEVER vote for him in a million years. Too radical for me  so if it comes down to trump, Clinton or sanders who would be your choice ? dan
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Hello Britman. Not sure what questions you are talking about. As to my post above yours, the guy I was talking about getting 6 and 7 figure campaign contributions is O. I am about as far away from a Dem/Lib/Prog as a person can be and have been since 1974 when I was 18 and able to vote for the first time. I even named my son after Thomas Jefferson. Chuck
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Hello Britman. Not sure what questions you are talking about. As to my post above yours, the guy I was talking about getting 6 and 7 figure campaign contributions is O. I am about as far away from a Dem/Lib/Prog as a person can be and have been since 1974 when I was 18 and able to vote for the first time. I even named my son after Thomas Jefferson. Chuck Darn it I used the wrong name. Sorry. Should have been Cl-borg
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I guess controling our boarders, killing terrorist and bringing jobs back to the US is a little radical. Just think about whats happening for a minute. Eligal migration is changing the lanscape of our country dramaticaly. Most people crossing the boarder are coming for one thing "FREE STUFF". Paid for by working tax payers. The result is most that work work for low wages. Here in south Florida in the building trade most are from Mexico. They work as subcontractor not directly on the payrolls working for lower wages and getting around minimum wage requirements. Those that are in the tax system and making the so called minimum wage qualify for all kinds of free stuff. There are signs all over Ft Myers in those neighborhoods from tax preparers to come in and get their refund of 3700 for 1 kid 6500 for 2 and 7500 for 3. These people are a socialist thinking society voting for anyone offering free stuff any working person is paying for.(Disclaimer= I am not agains unions.) The other economic pressure in this country driving manufacturing out of the country is unions forcing manyfacturing wages up to were the product gets unafordabe. All government entities require union labor to do anything. No competative bidding by no union. Could save tax payers billions. Government regulations, EPA, Taxes and the like are all pressure on the manufacturing industry to go were labor is low. There for out of the country. Americam auto makers Ford is now building an assembly plant in Mexico. I wonder why? ITW were my son in law works has been told after almost 30 yrs working for them he may loose his job just a few years befor his pension is available. Were are they going? Juarez, some have been offerd jobs to move to Elpaso and work across boarder to train new workers. You say what? Most of China wage scale is what it was here in the 50's and early 60's. I started at 2.35 hr in 61. 35% teriff on a Ford being shipped back to the US from Mexico? Radical? I guess. Maybe not? Just remeber everything gets compounded each time wages taxes and other costs go up. Corporations do not pay taxes. Any tax levied on a corporation or product you pay not the corporation. All is built in to the price. Is Trump the guy? Who knows. He worries me as well but gets you thinking. Best solution to start with is Value added flat tax paid at point of sale. No Corp taxe no income tax, no sales tax etc. Therefore no tax on tax and no shifting the burdon to the buyer of all hidden taxes. Everyone pays taxes. Even the black market industry, drug dealers etc. If you buy something you pay the tax. One idea may not be the best. Oh ya and seal the boarder.
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Be vewy, vewy careful what you wish for regarding VAT. Or do you mean just a flat tax say about 20% on all purchases? To me VAT is an ADDED tax not a replacement of a tax system. https://www.gov.uk/vat-rates
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I and my father-in-law worked for Donald Trump for many years. We always found him very fair to the workers. He was very strong in what he wanted done. But he always saw to it that you are able to have what was necessary to get the job done.
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Even the black market industry, drug dealers etc. If you buy something you pay the tax. So black market sellers and drug dealers will collect sales tax for the government?
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Even the black market industry, drug dealers etc. If you buy something you pay the tax. So black market sellers and drug dealers will collect sales tax for the government? It could be he means when the ill gotten gains are spent at legitimate outlets a tax will be levied.
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Hello Britman. Not sure what questions you are talking about. As to my post above yours, the guy I was talking about getting 6 and 7 figure campaign contributions is O. I am about as far away from a Dem/Lib/Prog as a person can be and have been since 1974 when I was 18 and able to vote for the first time. I even named my son after Thomas Jefferson. Chuck Darn it I used the wrong name. Sorry. Should have been Cl-borg Sorry Btitman, just saw this. The link you provided doesn't work for me. If you're asking if the actions of one crook cancel the act of another than the answer is no. Looks like trump is also in trouble for running a for profit educational scam. http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/judges-deal-blow-against-the-donald-in-trump-university-lawsuit/ Mr. Trump has admitted that the visa program in question is bad for American workers and should not exist, yet he took advantage of it. Now that he's preaching against it that just makes him a hypocrit on top of being an embarrassing buffon.
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Mr. Trump has admitted that the visa program in question is bad for American workers and should not exist, yet he took advantage of it. Now that he's preaching against it that just makes him a hypocrit on top of being an embarrassing buffon.
I don't think it makes him a hypocrite at all. I've heard politicians say they would revamp the tax system by eliminating write-offs and loopholes, yet they still use them. If it's legal at the time, and others are using them, within the law, why shouldn't everyone be able to? BTW, Hillary's the biggest hypocrite of them all. I don't see you calling her names.
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Lol. Soon I'll be calling her Madam President.
MY Times on Trump. "........a racist, nationalist demagogue-for-hire with no sincere ideology beyond his own vanity. Mr. Trump is a cipher; his voters love him because he does nothing but hold up a mirror to their basest prejudices and bask in the feedback loop of narcissism."
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Sorry to hear about the bird. You may have not been careful enough in choosing a replacement paper as I just checked the online addition and if the bird was insulted by the Times these items below from the Daily News would have probably killed him anyway. Makes the NYT sound really conservative. "A history of Donald Trump inciting violence against protesters at his rallies and campaign events" "Bullying bigot Donald Trump, a racist, no longer deserves the benefit of the doubt" "Ben Carson, once a legend in the black community, sells his soul with Donald Trump endorsement" "Which Terrifying Political Voice Said It? Donald Trump is a blowhard, but Stalin, Hitler and Mussolini were maniacal dictators. Surprisingly, they don’t sound all that different." and if you want to take the quiz http://interactive.nydailynews.com/2016/03/quiz-who-said-it-trump-hitler-mussolini-stalin/and a slam at the GOP in general. "America is much greater than the GOP makes it seem"
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Wow if the NYT's doesn't like him that is a good thing, thanks just one more reason to like Trump.  “We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries.” —David Rockefeller, Baden-Baden, Germany 1991 Propaganda is a form of biased communication, aimed at promoting or demoting certain views, perceptions or agendas. Propaganda is often associated with the psychological mechanisms of influencing and altering the attitude of a population toward a specific cause, position or political agenda in an effort to form a consensus to a standard set of belief patterns. Propaganda is information that is not impartial and is used primarily to influence an audience and further an agenda, often by presenting facts selectively (perhaps lying by omission) to encourage a particular synthesis, or using loaded messages to produce an emotional rather than a rational response to the information presented.
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« Reply #35 on: March 11, 2016, 05:29:57 PM » |
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More drivel from French right wing newspapers. Wiki Quote continues on about that quote " Purported remarks at a Bilderberg Group meeting in Baden-Baden, Germany in June 1991, The remarks are said to have been printed in several right-wing French publications shortly thereafter; as quoted in Programming, Pitfalls and Puppy-Dog Tales (1993) by Gyeorgos C. Hatonn, p. 65. Skepticism is in order for the accuracy or attribution of alleged remarks from these exclusive meetings, particularly those which could be manifestations of either satire, sarcasm — or outright fraudulence." https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/David_RockefellerAnd Rockefeller was a REPUBLICAN!
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« Reply #36 on: March 11, 2016, 06:41:02 PM » |
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Well thats the real problem isn't it the regular news outlets wont report all and unbiased news so we are forced to a supposed lesser source but accurately reported. The supposed reliable sources cannot knock it down to false so lets put up a unverified rating. This is the issue you seek facts but learn from main stream sources that are not unbiased. Dont just spout what they feed you from the Times or other biased sources. Either party is only two sides of the same coin, it was once said that the reason we have two parties is to keep the people entertained and occupied. So the people will look to either party and think something will change in electing one party or the other.
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“Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don’t have time for all that.”
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« Reply #37 on: March 11, 2016, 09:59:19 PM » |
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we stopped using the NY Times to put on the bottom of the bird cage because the bird was insulted by its editorial pages
We switched to the Daily News
The bird died
Sorry to hear about the bird. You may have not been careful enough in choosing a replacement paper as I just checked the online addition and if the bird was insulted by the Times these items below from the Daily News would have probably killed him anyway. Makes the NYT sound really conservative. "A history of Donald Trump inciting violence against protesters at his rallies and campaign events" "Bullying bigot Donald Trump, a racist, no longer deserves the benefit of the doubt" "Ben Carson, once a legend in the black community, sells his soul with Donald Trump endorsement" "Which Terrifying Political Voice Said It? Donald Trump is a blowhard, but Stalin, Hitler and Mussolini were maniacal dictators. Surprisingly, they don’t sound all that different." and if you want to take the quiz http://interactive.nydailynews.com/2016/03/quiz-who-said-it-trump-hitler-mussolini-stalin/and a slam at the GOP in general. "America is much greater than the GOP makes it seem" "A history of Donald Trump inciting violence against protesters at his rallies and campaign events" Really? Trump is inciting violence? These are Trump rallies that Trump has paid for and the people who come to protest are the victims? The protesters in Chicago, denying Trump his civil rights by disrupting his political rally, chanting Bernie, Bernie after they shut the Trump rally down. Yeah, blame Trump. The violent rhetoric and the violence aren't coming from the Trump side save for a couple of idiots. The violent rhetoric and the violence are coming from a movement against him. Bunches of idiots. "Bullying bigot Donald Trump, a racist, no longer deserves the benefit of the doubt" Racist? Bigot? Nothing there to substantiate that. Twist the words, twist the context and Mother Theresa was a raging bigot and racist too. "Ben Carson, once a legend in the black community, sells his soul with Donald Trump endorsement" Save 1% of the lives he's saved and then maybe you can be qualified to comment on his character. "America is much greater than the GOP makes it seem" Actually true. And it is the GOP that seems to be the folks who wish to keep it so.
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« Reply #38 on: March 12, 2016, 04:13:05 AM » |
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Trumps 1st amendment rights violated in Chicago, and remember when we thought of liberals as accepting everyone's rights. They showed the exact example of what most in the US are tired of uncontrolled violence directed at someone with a different view but violence turned on them is an act of injustice.
Good going Chicago mayor for breeding a lawless mob attitude and uncontrolled emotional outbursts. When we talk about inciting someone to criminal acts such as stopping a meeting what responsibility do the ones who are disrupting the meeting have. Seems to me if you did a criminal act you were arrested if you have something to protest you did it peacefully. But you did not step on others rights destroy property and stop a meeting that some want to listen to. For that they should have been thrown in jail and have to make restitution.
This is one of the worst cases of uncontrolled egos I have ever seen, I wonder what would have happened in 08 to O if this had happened.
Criminals stopped a legally organized meeting only 5 arrested the rest bragged on social media.
What if this had been Muslims??
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“Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don’t have time for all that.”
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« Reply #39 on: March 12, 2016, 04:53:42 AM » |
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Personally the Chicago quandry last night will make the Trump movement even stronger but I would have picked a better location to have a GOP rally than the UIC campus or Chicago period. The real conservatives live outside Chicago. You know the ones whos taxes support that cess pool of a city. And yes I have personal reasons that I dislike the city not what I see/hear on the media.
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