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G-Man
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« on: March 11, 2016, 11:24:39 AM »

About 50 cents on the dollar went to the people they claim to help.

CEO made half a million.  Million dollar meetings and 5 star hotels.

PHUK THEM ! ! ! ! ! ! .  I'll find someplace to send my $20/month.

Watching Fox and Friends this morning, one of the hosts donated all the proceeds from 2 of his books to this "charity" and you could see the look on his face as he said it.  Very disappointed to say the least.

CEO and COO fired.  Too late.  I'm done.
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hubcapsc
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« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2016, 12:00:30 PM »

Before they recently got in the news so much, I assumed they did stuff
like help provide good prosthetics and help find employment and help
with the mortgage during hard times, but, after looking around, it seems
like the 50% they did provide was used for "programs" and "events".

What kind of constructive beneficial concrete help do they really provide?

While I was looking around I saw this place... I don't know anything about them,
just saw the web site, but this is the kind of stuff I used to think WWP was
doing...

http://www.tenderlovingcanines.org/programs/Wounded-Warrior-Service-Dogs.aspx

-Mike
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Hooter
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« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2016, 12:02:46 PM »




I was just told that by a buddy of mine that WAS involved in that program. He told me he told them they were a sham and a disgrace to the country.    tickedoff
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« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2016, 03:29:52 PM »

All show and no go.  Any organization that spends the kind of dough that they do on commercials is only after the buck to line their own pockets.  They have to have a constant stream of new money for that hence the non stop ads.  They don't mind exploiting the Vets to pull at your heartstrings either.
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« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2016, 03:38:09 PM »

Not saying they didn't do some good....because they did.  But ......the extravagant operating costs were obviously way too much and wasteful.  Sad they screwed the donations away like they did, others will think twice now unfortunately. 

Many so called "charities" should be held to a standard of operations and ethics, but this is one example of those that are not.  Maybe they will get their act together and prove their worth before it's too late.
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« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2016, 03:45:12 PM »

It's not their money and they should be prosecuted and be forced to return any money taken that didn't belong to them. Disgusting greedy slobs. Stealing from charities is the norm I think.
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« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2016, 03:51:32 PM »

This is unfortunate.  tickedoff

Three years ago, friends of mine and myself put together a very successful bike ride and a "Family Day".  Together, from both, we raised over 20K and donated EVERY PENNY of it to "The Wounded Warrior Project".

We took absolutely nothing from the proceeds and spent our own money on organization and supplies.

I personally spent hours building and un-building a stage for the band to play on at the "Family Day"

We spent hours at meetings and hours soliciting donations from everyday people and companies.

Many donated w/o delay because of the cause.

I have to believe that what money/support that did make it to the "Warriors" made a difference in their lives and now that the two top officers of the charity have been axed, things will be different.

I hope so.
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« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2016, 04:15:12 PM »

This is unfortunate.  tickedoff

Three years ago, friends of mine and myself put together a very successful bike ride and a "Family Day".  Together, from both, we raised over 20K and donated EVERY PENNY of it to "The Wounded Warrior Project".

We took absolutely nothing from the proceeds and spent our own money on organization and supplies.

I personally spent hours building and un-building a stage for the band to play on at the "Family Day"

We spent hours at meetings and hours soliciting donations from everyday people and companies.

Many donated w/o delay because of the cause.

I have to believe that what money/support that did make it to the "Warriors" made a difference in their lives and now that the two top officers of the charity have been axed, things will be different.

I hope so.
Bill, I hope so too. This story reminds me of the United Way doing the same thing many years ago. I haven't donated to them since because of that. The thing that really pisses me off about this is that the Board of Directors should have been overseeing this all along. It makes me feel they were in on the take or else are so inept at the wheel. This also makes me proud of the VRCC admin with the charity we supported at the Spearfish Inzane. I don't remember the name of the group, but it was a local charity that helped vets. The representative that was at the dinner seemed very grateful and humbled by our help.
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« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2016, 04:59:22 PM »

WWF is no different than the Clinton Foundation.  It exists to put money in the pockets of those running the charity/foundation.  There is something inherently wrong with a nation that needs a charity to take care of it's wounded warriors!  The nation should take care of it's wounded warriors with tax dollars, before giving a dime to the FSA (Free crap Army) or ANY foreign countries in the form of aid.  Once those who have served our nation and been disabled in the course of doing so are cared for, Then AND ONLY THEN, consider the rest.  If you need food stamps or welfare, take the oath and serve, otherwise wait your turn.
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« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2016, 05:20:29 PM »

I was saddened to read this too.  This seems to be the rule rather than the exception for charities that get BIG.  Greed trumps ethics and values.

Every year in the military and VA the annual CFC would come up, and I would read the booklet that published the percentages of what got spent on actual good works.  It does cost money to hire good people and run a good organization, but 30-50% for admin/overhead never got my money (like the Red Cross). 

The US Govt is run the same way.  I wish I could cut down on my contributions to show my displeasure.
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« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2016, 05:36:47 PM »

How do I go about suspending my contribution? I always have trouble figuring this stuff out.
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« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2016, 07:59:50 PM »

OK - this may sound a bit cynical / self serving - but my wife works for one of the vendors that gets paid from WWP.

There are several different divisions of WWP - my wife's company gets paid from the part that deals with BRAIN INJURY vets - they work with vets (and their families /caregivers) AFTER the government has done what they can with the Vet.  There are parts that are like that TV piece showed, but there are also parts that are doing real good.

I think if you dig deep enough into any "national" type charity - you can find the same situation - some inappropriate spending, but also some good work being done elsewhere. The secret comes in finding out the percentage that is doing good.

Believe me -  they ARE auditing themselves with independent auditors AND they have these same auditors on their vendors. We knew going in when she started this job that auditing like this would happen and so did the company owners.


All I'm saying is that you need to look beyond the headlines / lead TV story. There is more than one side to it.
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« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2016, 09:03:34 PM »

Investigate the American Cancer Society. They have area VP's earning over 1 million $$$$ a year.
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« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2016, 09:39:18 PM »

WWF is no different than the Clinton Foundation.  It exists to put money in the pockets of those running the charity/foundation.  There is something inherently wrong with a nation that needs a charity to take care of it's wounded warriors!  The nation should take care of it's wounded warriors with tax dollars, before giving a dime to the FSA (Free crap Army) or ANY foreign countries in the form of aid.  Once those who have served our nation and been disabled in the course of doing so are cared for, Then AND ONLY THEN, consider the rest.  If you need food stamps or welfare, take the oath and serve, otherwise wait your turn.


 cooldude Absolutely correct.
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« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2016, 05:54:32 AM »

I've been skeptical at best and fearful at worst and looks like my fears are based in fact. These wonderful sand box Veterans are getting the short end of a very shitty stick from the V A also. Under NO circumstances take my word for that-go to your local V A hospital and talk to the Veterans themselves or their wives. OUR sorry assed excuse for a gubmint needs to quit funding slackers and feather merchants and take care of OUR SOLDIERS who laid it ALL on the line. Far as the sorry assed excuse for humans who run these programs go-round em up give em desert camo a rifle with one magazine dump their ass in the desert and fergit to extract them. Fund the MEN and WOMEN who have been wounded protecting the U S of A first and DEFUND NOW the free crap army. DEFUND NOW any country that wants to take US out. 2 men that never served running a Veterans help organization! What COULD possibly go wrong there?  uglystupid2 Course greed and avarice will ALWAYS rear their ugly heads with large amounts of Money up for grabs.  Evil RIDE SAFE.
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firea100
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« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2016, 06:10:31 AM »

Did you ever look into the "pie chart" on the American Red Cross?

That's why I give my blood to the Red Cross and my dollars to the Salvation Army.

Larry in East China Mi.
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« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2016, 10:32:52 AM »

When Fox began pushing the Wounded Warriors I looked to find their expenditures and there wasn't any at that time yet. I figured they would be a good organization and donated for awhile. Once their expenses became available I stopped.
I can't donate to an organization with those type of numbers. I don't mind some making a decent wage for their work, not those kind of wages/expenses.
I find it shameful that so many organizations are such scams. But, I guess its the American way.
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« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2016, 03:12:05 PM »

When Fox began pushing the Wounded Warriors I looked to find their expenditures and there wasn't any at that time yet. I figured they would be a good organization and donated for awhile. Once their expenses became available I stopped.
I can't donate to an organization with those type of numbers. I don't mind some making a decent wage for their work, not those kind of wages/expenses.
I find it shameful that so many organizations are such scams. But, I guess its the American way.
             NOT dissin you but you are right on it being the current American way. Me first and screw anybody and everybody else. To parade around injured Veterans like they have been known to do and knowing full well that the donors are gonna pay for their trips s u vs and vacations while effing over the Veterans major big time. As I stated earlier-put the worthless S O Bs out front on an attack. I M H O a minimum of 90 cents of every dollar should go to helping the Veterans. I better stop now afore I REALLY git more pissed off. RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2016, 05:01:32 PM »

The names of the fired: Nardizzi and Giordano get my "Mafioso" radar up and sensitized.  These two mook guidos need to have their connections looked into under a microscope for goodfellow goombahs.

I grew up around mafia crooks and this smells of a traditional scam from them.  Play the suckers and tug at their heart strings for as long as the game holds up.  Hide the money from the feds, then take your lumps in a short prison stint and have the cash waiting for you when you exit your federal prison/country club.

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« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2016, 06:18:34 PM »

The names of the fired: Nardizzi and Giordano get my "Mafioso" radar up and sensitized.  These two mook guidos need to have their connections looked into under a microscope for goodfellow goombahs.

I grew up around mafia crooks and this smells of a traditional scam from them.  Play the suckers and tug at their heart strings for as long as the game holds up.  Hide the money from the feds, then take your lumps in a short prison stint and have the cash waiting for you when you exit your federal prison/country club.


           Part-ah No Most-ah No-ALL of the reason I want their sorry asses on point!  cooldude No club med for you or you or you!  Evil RIDE SAFE.
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« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2016, 06:34:43 PM »

The American Red Cross has run a top heavy organization for many years. Sure, they make an appearance during a disaster, but nothing what it could be if the higher ups weren't making so much. Volunteers(nurses anyway) have to PAY to be part of efforts... Sorry guys, if I am working for free I shouldn't have to pay you anything. The ICRC(International Red Cross) on the other hand, might be somewhat political, is about the mission, not the money.
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