Gender VS. 6'5" Chinese Woman

[DarkSideR]

I haven't posted much as of late regarding current social political correctness, but I am getting very tired of this gender debate. I saw a good video questioning college students on the matter. I really enjoyed the last line of the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfO1veFs6Ho

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We're doomed.

Multiply this by ALL the colleges etc across the USA.

[Serk]

[DarkSideR]

The whole thing is a slippery slope. Most people are opportunists. Using the transgender logic one could identify as Native American when applying to college to get a free education. Jumping over many other examples, I will go right to the end result. If all goes as planned with gender neutrality one day after a child is raped the individual will be set free because they will say they "identify" as a pedophile. Or sex with animals will become legal because someone identifies with bestiality. And who is anyone to say they are wrong because of course no tests can be performed to conclude one is a pedophile. There is no physiology to back any of this up. I am besides myself to think that all of this will be because of how one "identifies" them-self.

I know society isn't ready nor should we ever have to face either of those issues, but we will if gender neutrality continues to make headway. 

[Alpha Dog]

The whole thing is a slippery slope. Most people are opportunists. Using the transgender logic one could identify as Native American when applying to college to get a free education. Jumping over many other examples, I will go right to the end result. If all goes as planned with gender neutrality one day after a child is raped the individual will be set free because they will say they "identify" as a pedophile. Or sex with animals will become legal because someone identifies with bestiality. And who is anyone to say they are wrong because of course no tests can be performed to conclude one is a pedophile. There is no physiology to back any of this up. I am besides myself to think that all of this will be because of how one "identifies" them-self.

I know society isn't ready nor should we ever have to face either of those issues, but we will if gender neutrality continues to make headway. 

You are 100 percent right DarkSider.

What if i tell you that when that siren sounds for you to follow it to the Morlocks underground lair.  They are really nice folks that are just a little misunderstood for their culinary habits.
Campus' are full of the Eloi and it did not take 800,000 years, only a little more than a century.

[old2soon]

Actually-pick an adjective-I watched as long as I did!  I mentioned this the other day-you have a penis use the men's room you have a vagina use the women's room. If for reasons beyond me and some other folks you look between your legs and become confused at zackly WHAT yer seeing there go out by a tree and amuse yerself!  And yet AGAIN I say this is more made up p c b s. I really see NO need for the toilets being "gender neutral" IT IS so simple as to be almost scary-penis-men's room-vagina women's room. Had this B S been going on wheni was raising my first children some heads would have been busted had a MALE walked in on my Daughter in a rest room. And had a women walked into the men's room with any of my boys in there my wife would have hurt them. But after listening to those "college persons" if THAT Is what coming out of the majority of our institutions of higher learning we ARE for all intents and purposes-DOOMED.  RIDE SAFE.

[DarkSideR]

Actually-pick an adjective-I watched as long as I did!   I mentioned this the other day-you have a penis use the men's room you have a vagina use the women's room. If for reasons beyond me and some other folks you look between your legs and become confused at zackly WHAT yer seeing there go out by a tree and amuse yerself!   And yet AGAIN I say this is more made up p c b s. I really see NO need for the toilets being "gender neutral" IT IS so simple as to be almost scary-penis-men's room-vagina women's room. Had this B S been going on wheni was raising my first children some heads would have been busted had a MALE walked in on my Daughter in a rest room. And had a women walked into the men's room with any of my boys in there my wife would have hurt them. But after listening to those "college persons" if THAT Is what coming out of the majority of our institutions of higher learning we ARE for all intents and purposes-DOOMED.   RIDE SAFE.

That will be part of the problem.. people are going to get hurt. All of society cannot be forced to believe in this, and laws should not be passed to make society adopt this belief. There will be those (like myself) who know that the opportunistic predators already have, and will continue to take advantage of this. Despite that the internet is full stories "Debunking Bathroom Predators" as a myth there are already numerous reports of this happening.

 Examples;
-https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/sexual-predator-jailed-after-claiming-to-be-transgender-in-order-to-assault
-https://genderidentitywatch.com/transwomen-sexualized-violence/ (read the comments at the bottom of this one)
-http://www.dailywire.com/news/5190/5-times-transgender-men-abused-women-and-children-amanda-prestigiacomo
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[The emperor has no clothes]

There is a gender debate going on ?  ???

[DarkSideR]

There is a gender debate going on ?  ???

I wish I was under the same rock as  you.

[The emperor has no clothes]

There is a gender debate going on ?  ???

I wish I was under the same rock as  you.

I'm not sure if I should be offended or flattered. What I was trying to express was that it seems to be blown up by the media. But maybe I hang with a bunch of rock dwellers. 

[DarkSideR]

There is a gender debate going on ?  ???

I wish I was under the same rock as  you.

I'm not sure if I should be offended or flattered. What I was trying to express was that it seems to be blown up by the media. But maybe I hang with a bunch of rock dwellers. 

Take no offense. I agree, this is a hot topic pushed by liberals, left, and the media. 99.9% of the world could careless about this, but because we all turn on the TV, and have some sort of social media we are at one point or another going to run into this debate.

[Jess from VA]

So if I identify with a dog, I can just squat anywhere.  Hmmmmm

[DarkSideR]

So if I identify with a dog, I can just squat anywhere.  Hmmmmm

Exactly, come next tax season I will identify as a cat. Cats don't pay taxes, so..

[Jess from VA]

So if I identify with a dog, I can just squat anywhere.  Hmmmmm

Exactly, come next tax season I will identify as a cat. Cats don't pay taxes, so..

Yeah, well, they sure get excited if you claim one as a dependent, or 12. 

[Willow]

Whether there is a risk of predators taking advantage (and there is) is not the primary issue.  We as a culture have moved in a direction of disregarding the discomfort of the 92% in order to accommodate the 8%.  The train has long ago left the rails.

In fairness, and I am not saying I'm for mixing genders in bathrooms, it is a cultural issue.  There are cultures in the world that for a long, long time have not practiced gender segregation in restrooms.  They seem to have survived.  I'm not sure I could manage it.  It's not the embarrassment that would do me in.  I haven't much sense of embarrassment.  It is that I like to pretend that pretty young women don't stink.  Can you imagine how devastating that would be for me? 

[Gavin_Sons]

Whether there is a risk of predators taking advantage (and there is) is not the primary issue.  We as a culture have moved in a direction of disregarding the discomfort of the 92% in order to accommodate the 8%.  The train has long ago left the rails.

In fairness, and I am not saying I'm for mixing genders in bathrooms, it is a cultural issue.  There are cultures in the world that for a long, long time have not practiced gender segregation in restrooms.  They seem to have survived.  I'm not sure I could manage it.  It's not the embarrassment that would do me in.  I haven't much sense of embarrassment.  It is that I like to pretend that pretty young women don't stink.  Can you imagine how devastating that would be for me? 

  they can stink? Since when?

[Gryphon Rider]

Whether there is a risk of predators taking advantage (and there is) is not the primary issue.  We as a culture have moved in a direction of disregarding the discomfort of the 92% in order to accommodate the 8%.  The train has long ago left the rails.

In fairness, and I am not saying I'm for mixing genders in bathrooms, it is a cultural issue.  There are cultures in the world that for a long, long time have not practiced gender segregation in restrooms.  They seem to have survived.  I'm not sure I could manage it.  It's not the embarrassment that would do me in.  I haven't much sense of embarrassment.  It is that I like to pretend that pretty young women don't stink.  Can you imagine how devastating that would be for me?  

That's why en-suite bathrooms in master bedrooms should have exhaust fans and locks on their doors.  

[The emperor has no clothes]

Whether there is a risk of predators taking advantage (and there is) is not the primary issue.  We as a culture have moved in a direction of disregarding the discomfort of the 92% in order to accommodate the 8%.  The train has long ago left the rails.

In fairness, and I am not saying I'm for mixing genders in bathrooms, it is a cultural issue.  There are cultures in the world that for a long, long time have not practiced gender segregation in restrooms.  They seem to have survived.  I'm not sure I could manage it.  It's not the embarrassment that would do me in.  I haven't much sense of embarrassment.  It is that I like to pretend that pretty young women don't stink.  Can you imagine how devastating that would be for me? 

And not to mention the sounds. 

[cookiedough]

I think it is mostly the younger generation not having the balls to say what they think in person to someone so as to NOT offend them.  Is like that in high school's as well as college.  My kids, and millions of other high schoolers,  are brainwashed in their younger years attending school to BE NICE to all and NOT offend anyone even though that person is totally wrong. 

Is just the way it is nowadays.

Penis = male bathroom
Vagina = female bathroom

Plain and simple, why is there such a heated debate over something so simple? 

[Serk]

Penis = male bathroom
Vagina = female bathroom

Plain and simple, why is there such a heated debate over something so simple? 

This is Buck Angel. Buck Angel was born a woman, and still has a vagina.



This is Bailey Jay. Bailey Jay was born a male, and still has a penis.



Personally I think Buck trying to use a woman's bathroom or Bailey trying to use a men's bathroom would cause far more problems than if either of them used the bathroom of the gender they present as.

I'll admit I'm somewhat torn on this, but by current North Carolina law Buck Angel would have to use the woman's bathroom and Bailey Jay would have to use the men's.

I don't have a good answer but rigid laws are rarely the correct answer either.

[Valkorado]

I hope Buck or Bailey don't ever have to go to prison.  That'd cause some commotion!

[RP#62]

At the kennel club one time rather than "men" and "women" signs on the restrooms doors, one said "Pointers" and one said "Setters"

-RP

[hubcapsc]

I don't have a good answer but rigid laws are rarely the correct answer either.

I think the North Carolina law is stupid. Except that there will be people
pushing for a federal law, or Constitutional interpretation, that requires
all states to allow boys that dress up like girls to go into the girls bathroom.

-Mike

[DarkSideR]

People like buck and Bailey are .001% of the population. Buck and Bailey can go on quietly living their lives as they have been without bothering anybody else and no laws would need to be passed.

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People like buck and Bailey are .001% of the population. Buck and Bailey can go on quietly living their lives as they have been without bothering anybody else and no laws would need to be passed.

 

The really really really really really small squeaky wheel......................................

Unless they are sexual predators in which case they need an ass whuppin.

[Serk]

People like buck and Bailey are .001% of the population. Buck and Bailey can go on quietly living their lives as they have been without bothering anybody else and no laws would need to be passed.

I actually agree, and they had been, until the push for laws like the new North Carolina law, which as I understand it, says everyone must use the bathroom that aligns with their birth certificate, and thus the issue...

[..]

People like buck and Bailey are .001% of the population. Buck and Bailey can go on quietly living their lives as they have been without bothering anybody else and no laws would need to be passed.

I actually agree, and they had been, until the push for laws like the new North Carolina law, which as I understand it, says everyone must use the bathroom that aligns with their birth certificate, and thus the issue...

But hopefully Buck and Bailey are not squeaking. Just getting on with their choice of life?

[da prez]

At the hospital I go to for checkups , the toilets have men,women symbols on them. In Europe , most are not designated.
  da.prez

[Valkorado]

http://www.buzzfeed.com/skarlan/17-of-the-most-fabulous-gender-neutral-bathroom-signs?utm_term=.nyAR9vo5B

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At the hospital I go to for checkups , the toilets have men,women symbols on them. In Europe , most are not designated.
  da.prez

Aren't those toilets just a room with one crapper in?

[Oss]

I have one bathroom in my office. It has a pic of a man and women on the door
There is only room for one person at a time
As long as there is 1 person in there and they close the door I dont want to know what they are or are not

To me this is all crap to keep us from handling the R E A L problems facing the USA

[The emperor has no clothes]

There is a gender debate going on ?  ???

I wish I was under the same rock as  you.

I'm not sure if I should be offended or flattered. What I was trying to express was that it seems to be blown up by the media. But maybe I hang with a bunch of rock dwellers. 

Take no offense. I agree, this is a hot topic pushed by liberals, left, and the media. 99.9% of the world could careless about this, but because we all turn on the TV, and have some sort of social media we are at one point or another going to run into this debate.

I didn't. But then I'm not usually worried about what people think of me. As far as liberals or the left media pushing this, most of the news I watch is considered by many here commie pinko. I haven't seen squat about it on there. The only time I hear anything about it is from my conservative friends. So that kind of makes me think the right media is the ones "pushing" it.