Texas Schools Go TransGender

[BonS]

How about we simply use a genetic test to determine sex. You know, XY or XX chromosomes? indisputable. I don't care how one wishes to dress or live but chromosomes don't change. And that's what goes on a birth certificate, and determines bathroom or sports team eligibility. Too simple I guess.

[Pappy!]

Let me tell you what is amazing about all of this........

The world is fighting Isis and Islamic terrorism, Starvation, Disease, and in some cases Immigration, yet the Democrats are fighting to let a man pee in the women's bathroom. Think about that for a minute.

[Rams]

Let me tell you what is amazing about all of this........

The world is fighting Isis and Islamic terrorism, Starvation, Disease, and in some cases Immigration, yet the Democrats are fighting to let a man pee in the women's bathroom. Think about that for a minute.

I tend to agree.   Let's face it, we've all probably went into a stall, taken care of our business and never knew we we're next to a person who was confused about this issue.   If, someone has this issue and just takes care of their business, who's gonna know?

There in lies the issue, they obviously want to advertise their confusion.    I won't deny that I'm going to have an issue if, an obvious male or questionable person decides to follow my wife or daughter into a woman's restroom,  he/she may have to prove his/her case to go in there or..........................

[..]

As I previously posted hands up those who knew this was a NATIONAL problem before this Fed Govt forced the problem on the voters.

[..]

Let me tell you what is amazing about all of this........

The world is fighting Isis and Islamic terrorism, Starvation, Disease, and in some cases Immigration, yet the Democrats are fighting to let a man pee in the women's bathroom. Think about that for a minute.

Distract and deflect.

The short attention span voters sit slack jawed drooling.

[art]

Probably all started by Mooshee the heshe.

[baldo]

Probably all started by Mooshee the heshe.

Ignorant

[Serk]

      When an expectant Mother has the ultra sound to determine the sex of the baby, does the doctor  say " we dont yet know what gender the baby identifies with" ? 

(the really sad part is that reality has become such a bad parody of itself, I can't tell if this person was serious or sarcastic...)

[Gryphon Rider]

(the really sad part is that reality has become such a bad parody of itself, I can't tell if this person was serious or sarcastic...)

No doubt, she was sincere.  This thinking is catching on like wildfire.

I know you'll probably disagree, Serk, but what this is, ultimately, is rebellion against God, even if they don't see it that way.  "God thinks He can determine my gender; we'll see about that!  To be authentic to myself, since I don't feel the way I think society says I should feel about myself, I must be something other than what my plumbing indicates!"

[Rams]

I don't feel the way I think society says I should feel about myself, I must be something other than what my plumbing indicates!"

Sink, tub, shower or the dreaded commode?   Which is it?   

[Serk]

I know you'll probably disagree, Serk, but what this is, ultimately, is rebellion against God, even if they don't see it that way.  "God thinks He can determine my gender; we'll see about that! 

Replace God with nature or reality, and we'd be in agreement...

[TallRider]

Wife and I went up to Chicago last week. Wife had shoulder replacement 3 days earlier. Stopped in Kentucky rest area about 5:30 in the Am. Waiting for her to come out and heard her yell. Needed help pulling her jeans up. Went into womans bathroom to help and as I walked out one of the morning shift attendents was standing outside getting settle in for the days work. Looked at me coming out and I said I was feeling femine this morning. He replied we don't do that here yet. i said well thats how stupid its goug to get soon.

[..]

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2016/05/17/shopper-upset-man-allowed-to-use-womens-dressing-room-in-ross/

Do your wives, girlfriends, mothers, daughters, grand daughters shop at these stores?

[Jess from VA]

I remember a couple times the wife had me follow her around the mall dress shops (blegh) (not Victoria's) and try on a dress and yell for me to come back and tell her what I thought of the dress/fit.  I'm like, I'm not coming back there, those women will knock my bridge work out. 

Plus most of us try to avoid things that could get us labelled pervs.... officially.

On the other hand, out riding all over creation, I have often used the empty ladies when the men's is backed up with 6-20 riders (standing only, not sitting)(single user bathroom, not locker-room types).

[..]

I remember a couple times the wife had me follow her around the mall dress shops (blegh) (not Victoria's) and try on a dress and yell for me to come back and tell her what I thought of the dress/fit.  I'm like, I'm not coming back there, those women will knock my bridge work out. 

Plus most of us try to avoid things that could get us labelled pervs.... officially.

On the other hand, out riding all over creation, I have often used the empty ladies when the men's is backed up with 6-20 riders (standing only, not sitting)(single user bathroom, not locker-room types).

Any man that will stand ready to burst when there's an empty single user ladies restroom is suspect.

Suspect of being overly PC.

[Jess from VA]

I remember a couple times the wife had me follow her around the mall dress shops (blegh) (not Victoria's) and try on a dress and yell for me to come back and tell her what I thought of the dress/fit.  I'm like, I'm not coming back there, those women will knock my bridge work out.  

Plus most of us try to avoid things that could get us labelled pervs.... officially.

On the other hand, out riding all over creation, I have often used the empty ladies when the men's is backed up with 6-20 riders (standing only, not sitting)(single user bathroom, not locker-room types).

Any man that will stand ready to burst when there's an empty single user ladies restroom is suspect.

Suspect of being overly PC.

No kidding.  

All my life I have preferred peeing out in nature to indoor plumbing.  But you have to be careful, most state and local G's don't have a charge of public urination, they just have indecent exposure.  I'd plead to public urination (though I try to find hidden spots), but never to indecent exposure, which will get you on the sex offender registry.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I have a friend who was busted for peeing in an alley behind a bar. Just like you said they got him for indecent exposure.

[hubcapsc]

Any man that will stand ready to burst when there's an empty single user ladies restroom is suspect.

Suspect of being overly PC.

Have you ever been in one of those places? (by mistake, of course)...

First, it seems weird. Then you wonder, "what are those things?"...
Then you realize where you are!

-Mike "scarred for life"

[Jess from VA]

I have a friend who was busted for peeing in an alley behind a bar. Just like you said they got him for indecent exposure.

Well, the devil is in the details.  

The crime of indecent exposure requires the prosecution prove an element of exposing oneself for the purposes of sexual gratification (of yourself or others) (as opposed to expelling urine), and beyond any reasonable doubt.  

No one peeing outdoors should ever plead to indecent exposure (unless that is what they were doing), but what happens is the prosecutor offers a low fine, no jail deal that many find irresistible.  Especially when the alternative is hiring a lawyer and taking the risk of trial.  

I'd counter offer the prosecutor for a plea deal to misdemeanor disorderly conduct, which in truth is closer to peeing in an alley than indecent exposure (especially an alley empty of others, except me).  

[Serk]

Any man that will stand ready to burst when there's an empty single user ladies restroom is suspect.

Suspect of being overly PC.

Have you ever been in one of those places? (by mistake, of course)...

First, it seems weird. Then you wonder, "what are those things?"...
Then you realize where you are!

-Mike "scarred for life"

Just be very careful in there, don't be like this poor guy!

A man traveling by plane and in urgent need to use the mens room is nervously tapping his foot on the floor of the aircraft. Each time he tried the mens room door, it was "OCCUPIED".

The stewardess, aware of his predicament suggested that he go ahead and use the ladies room, but cautioned him against using any of the buttons inside.

The buttons were marked "WW, WA, PP and ATR".

Making the mistake that so many men make in disregarding the importance of what a woman says, the man let his curiosity get the best of him and decided to try the buttons anyway.

He carefully pressed the first button marked "WW" and immediately warm water sprayed all over his entire bottom.

He thought, "WOW, the women really have it made!".

Still curious, he pressed the button marked "WA" and a gentle breeze of warm air quickly dried his hind quarters.

He thought that was out of this world! The button marked "PP" yielded a large powder puff which delicately applied a soft talc to his rear.

Well, naturally he couldn't resist the last button marked "ATR".

When he woke up in the hospital he panicked and buzzed for the nurse.

When she appeared, he cried out, "What happened to me?! The last thing I remember is I was in the ladies room on a business trip!"

The nurse replied, "Yes, you were having a great time until you pressed the 'ATR' button which stands for Automatic Tampon Remover... Your penis is under your pillow!"

[Psychotic Bovine]

Doctor:  congratulations, it's a "to be determined by itself at a later date".

[FLAVALK]

If the transgender thing isn't a mental disorder, there's no such thing as a mental disorder. This country is Effed up 

[Patrick]

If the transgender thing isn't a mental disorder, there's no such thing as a mental disorder. This country is Effed up 

And I see no end in sight.

[czuch]

Ladies, just leave the seat up when you're done.

[Gavin_Sons]

i have lots of opinions about this, but none that would add anything productive to the discussion. 

[Patrick]

Ladies, just leave the seat up when you're done.

I've been trying to get JoAnn to do that for the past 40+ years.

[baldo]

i have lots of opinions about this, but none that would add anything productive to the discussion. 

Thank you.....

[Gavin_Sons]

i have lots of opinions about this, but none that would add anything productive to the discussion. 

Thank you.....

I'll share them with you if you would like. 

[Rams]

i have lots of opinions about this, but none that would add anything productive to the discussion. 

Thank you.....

I'll share them with you if you would like. 

Please do so, share away.    I'm sure several of us would like to read your thoughts..........   

[Gavin_Sons]

i have lots of opinions about this, but none that would add anything productive to the discussion. 

Thank you.....

I'll share them with you if you would like. 

Please do so, share away.    I'm sure several of us would like to read your thoughts..........   

Better not Ron, there are a few that may get offended. And I'm trying really hard not to offend anyone

[Rams]

i have lots of opinions about this, but none that would add anything productive to the discussion. 

Thank you.....

I'll share them with you if you would like. 

Please do so, share away.    I'm sure several of us would like to read your thoughts..........   

Better not Ron, there are a few that may get offended. And I'm trying really hard not to offend anyone

Well hell, then all you have to do is a polar 180 of my posts.   

[Willow]

Better not Ron, there are a few that may get offended. And I'm trying really hard not to offend anyone

Well hell, then all you have to do is a polar 180 of my posts.   

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[baldo]

i have lots of opinions about this, but none that would add anything productive to the discussion. 

Thank you.....

I'll share them with you if you would like. 

Please do so, share away.    I'm sure several of us would like to read your thoughts..........   

Better not Ron, there are a few that may get offended. And I'm trying really hard not to offend anyone

You're doing really well. It's nice to see.

[Patrick]

Remember the old remarks about stupid statements such as, I want my first daughter [son] to a be a girl [boy].  We'd all shake our our heads wondering how people could say something that stupid, this kinda puts a whole new spin on this this doesn't it.

[Rams]

TRUCKEE, Calif. — Western stagecoach companies were big business in the latter half of the 19th century. In addition to passengers and freight, stages hauled gold and silver bullion as well as mining company payrolls.
 
Stage robbery was a constant danger and bandits employed many strategies to ambush a stagecoach. Thieves rarely met with much resistance from stage drivers, since they had passenger safety foremost in mind. The gang was usually after the Wells Fargo money box with its valuable contents. Passengers were seldom hurt, but they were certainly relieved of their cash, watches and jewelry. Before the completion of the transcontinental railroad over Donner Pass in 1868, the only transportation through the Sierra was by stage. Rugged teamsters held rein over six wild-eyed horses as they tore along the precipitous mountain trails. The stagecoaches were driven by skilled and fearless men who pushed themselves and their spirited horses to the limit.
 
One of the most famous drivers was Charles Darkey Parkhurst, aka "One eyed Charley" or "Six horse Charley", who had come west from New England in 1852 seeking his fortune in the Gold Rush. He spent 15 years running stages, sometimes partnering with Hank Monk, the celebrated driver from Carson City. Over the years, Pankhurst’s reputation as an expert whip grew.
 
From 20 feet away he could slice open the end of an envelope or cut a cigar out of a man’s mouth. Parkhurst smoked cigars, chewed wads of tobacco, drank with the best of them, and exuded supreme confidence behind the reins. His judgment was sound and pleasant manners won him many friends.
 
One afternoon as Charley drove down from Carson Pass the lead horses veered off the road and a wrenching jolt threw him from the rig. He hung on to the reins as the horses dragged him along on his stomach. Amazingly, Parkhurst managed to steer the frightened horses back onto the road and save all his grateful passengers.
 
During the 1850s, bands of surly highwaymen stalked the roads. These outlaws would level their shotguns at stage drivers and shout, “Throw down the gold box!” Charley Parkhurst had no patience for the crooks despite their demands and threatening gestures.
 
The most notorious road agent was nicknamed “Sugarfoot.” When he and his gang accosted Charley’s stage, it was the last robbery the thief ever attempted.
 
Charley cracked his whip defiantly, and when his horses bolted, he turned around and fired his revolver at the crooks. Sugarfoot was later found dead with a fatal bullet wound in his stomach.
 
In appreciation of his bravery, Wells Fargo presented Parkhurst with a large watch and chain made of solid gold. In 1865, Parkhurst grew tired of the demanding job of driving and he opened his own stage station. He later sold the business and retired to a ranch near Soquel, Calif. The years slipped by and Charley died on Dec. 29, 1879, at the age of 67.
 
A few days later, the Sacramento Daily Bee published his obituary. It read;

“On Sunday last, there died a person known as Charley Parkhurst, aged 67, who was well-known to old residents as a stage driver. He was in early days accounted one of the most expert manipulators of the reins who ever sat on the box of a coach. It was discovered when friendly hands were preparing him for his final rest, that Charley Parkhurst was unmistakably a well-developed woman!”
 
Once it was discovered that Charley was a woman, there were plenty of people to say they had always thought he wasn’t like other men. Even though he wore leather gloves summer and winter, many noticed that his hands were small and smooth. He slept in the stables with his beloved horses and was never known to have had a girlfriend.
 
Charley never volunteered clues to her past. Loose fitting clothing hid her femininity and after a horse kicked her, an eye patch over one eye helped conceal her face. She weighed 175 pounds, could handle herself in a fistfight and drank whiskey like one of the boys.
 
It turns out that Charley’s real name was Charlotte Parkhurst. Abandoned as a child, she was raised in a New Hampshire orphanage unloved and surrounded by poverty. Charlotte ran away when she was 15 years old and soon discovered that life in the working world was easier for men. So she decided to masquerade as one for the rest of her life.
 
The rest is history.
 
Well, almost. There is one last thing. On November 3, 1868, Charlotte Parkhurst cast her vote in the national election, dressed as a man.  She became the first woman to vote in the United States, 52 years before Congress passed the 19th amendment giving American women the right to vote!

Charlotte ran away when she was 15 years old and soon discovered that life in the working world was easier for men.
   No gender identity issue here, economics plain and simple.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charley_Parkhurst
Charley Parkhurst - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org

Life and career. Charley Parkhurst was born Charlotte Darkey Parkhurst in 1812 in Sharon, Vermont, to Mary (Morehouse) Parkhurst and an unknown father.
 

[Jess from VA]

Great story.  I'd have no problem sharing any facilities with him/her.   

Best to keep it quiet.  Remember what they did to Joan of Arc.  (Murdering bastards)

[The emperor has no clothes]

TRUCKEE, Calif. — Western stagecoach companies were big business in the latter half of the 19th century. In addition to passengers and freight, stages hauled gold and silver bullion as well as mining company payrolls.
 
Stage robbery was a constant danger and bandits employed many strategies to ambush a stagecoach. Thieves rarely met with much resistance from stage drivers, since they had passenger safety foremost in mind. The gang was usually after the Wells Fargo money box with its valuable contents. Passengers were seldom hurt, but they were certainly relieved of their cash, watches and jewelry. Before the completion of the transcontinental railroad over Donner Pass in 1868, the only transportation through the Sierra was by stage. Rugged teamsters held rein over six wild-eyed horses as they tore along the precipitous mountain trails. The stagecoaches were driven by skilled and fearless men who pushed themselves and their spirited horses to the limit.
 
One of the most famous drivers was Charles Darkey Parkhurst, aka "One eyed Charley" or "Six horse Charley", who had come west from New England in 1852 seeking his fortune in the Gold Rush. He spent 15 years running stages, sometimes partnering with Hank Monk, the celebrated driver from Carson City. Over the years, Pankhurst’s reputation as an expert whip grew.
 
From 20 feet away he could slice open the end of an envelope or cut a cigar out of a man’s mouth. Parkhurst smoked cigars, chewed wads of tobacco, drank with the best of them, and exuded supreme confidence behind the reins. His judgment was sound and pleasant manners won him many friends.
 
One afternoon as Charley drove down from Carson Pass the lead horses veered off the road and a wrenching jolt threw him from the rig. He hung on to the reins as the horses dragged him along on his stomach. Amazingly, Parkhurst managed to steer the frightened horses back onto the road and save all his grateful passengers.
 
During the 1850s, bands of surly highwaymen stalked the roads. These outlaws would level their shotguns at stage drivers and shout, “Throw down the gold box!” Charley Parkhurst had no patience for the crooks despite their demands and threatening gestures.
 
The most notorious road agent was nicknamed “Sugarfoot.” When he and his gang accosted Charley’s stage, it was the last robbery the thief ever attempted.
 
Charley cracked his whip defiantly, and when his horses bolted, he turned around and fired his revolver at the crooks. Sugarfoot was later found dead with a fatal bullet wound in his stomach.
 
In appreciation of his bravery, Wells Fargo presented Parkhurst with a large watch and chain made of solid gold. In 1865, Parkhurst grew tired of the demanding job of driving and he opened his own stage station. He later sold the business and retired to a ranch near Soquel, Calif. The years slipped by and Charley died on Dec. 29, 1879, at the age of 67.
 
A few days later, the Sacramento Daily Bee published his obituary. It read;

“On Sunday last, there died a person known as Charley Parkhurst, aged 67, who was well-known to old residents as a stage driver. He was in early days accounted one of the most expert manipulators of the reins who ever sat on the box of a coach. It was discovered when friendly hands were preparing him for his final rest, that Charley Parkhurst was unmistakably a well-developed woman!”
 
Once it was discovered that Charley was a woman, there were plenty of people to say they had always thought he wasn’t like other men. Even though he wore leather gloves summer and winter, many noticed that his hands were small and smooth. He slept in the stables with his beloved horses and was never known to have had a girlfriend.
 
Charley never volunteered clues to her past. Loose fitting clothing hid her femininity and after a horse kicked her, an eye patch over one eye helped conceal her face. She weighed 175 pounds, could handle herself in a fistfight and drank whiskey like one of the boys.
 
It turns out that Charley’s real name was Charlotte Parkhurst. Abandoned as a child, she was raised in a New Hampshire orphanage unloved and surrounded by poverty. Charlotte ran away when she was 15 years old and soon discovered that life in the working world was easier for men. So she decided to masquerade as one for the rest of her life.
 
The rest is history.
 
Well, almost. There is one last thing. On November 3, 1868, Charlotte Parkhurst cast her vote in the national election, dressed as a man.  She became the first woman to vote in the United States, 52 years before Congress passed the 19th amendment giving American women the right to vote!

Charlotte ran away when she was 15 years old and soon discovered that life in the working world was easier for men.
   No gender identity issue here, economics plain and simple.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charley_Parkhurst
Charley Parkhurst - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org

Life and career. Charley Parkhurst was born Charlotte Darkey Parkhurst in 1812 in Sharon, Vermont, to Mary (Morehouse) Parkhurst and an unknown father.
 

Excellent story  I would imagine for a single woman life was pretty brutal. Prostitution was probably the only way to make a living. I think Charlotte was pretty wise.

[baldo]

[Patrick]

So a man follows a little girl into the bathroom at a local big box store. The girls father then knocks out this mans teeth saying he self identifies as the tooth fairy.

[Patrick]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7p9tKK7L2A