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Serk
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« Reply #40 on: June 20, 2016, 08:14:41 PM »

people who are allowed to purchase assault rifles.


While I might be "allowed" to purchase one after the 6 month long background check that's required, I wish I had the $20,000 on up than one costs...

I researched the price of AR15 type weapons and looks like you could buy at least 10 for that 20k.  I see prices of 700 to 2200.  Maybe you're referring to the genuine article though. No idea about that but I'm sure the cheap civilian models will get the job done cooldude


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An assault rifle is a selective-fire rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle


And just for S&G, here's the first true assault rifle I found for sale on GunBroker:

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/563792446

(For posterity, it has a minimum bid price of $24,999.99)
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« Reply #41 on: June 20, 2016, 08:17:26 PM »

people who are allowed to purchase assault rifles.

While I might be "allowed" to purchase one after the 6 month long background check that's required, I wish I had the $20,000 on up than one costs...

Quit throwing them pirate birthday parties and you'll have the money in no time.  coolsmiley
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« Reply #42 on: June 21, 2016, 07:40:25 PM »

people who are allowed to purchase assault rifles.

While I might be "allowed" to purchase one after the 6 month long background check that's required, I wish I had the $20,000 on up than one costs...

I researched the price of AR15 type weapons and looks like you could buy at least 10 for that 20k.  I see prices of 700 to 2200.  Maybe you're referring to the genuine article though. No idea about that but I'm sure the cheap civilian models will get the job done cooldude
I know that it's not the best weapon available but if I had the money and it was possible I would have a Thompson automatic rifle. Just the history behind it and the looks with a round ammo canister,damn.
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« Reply #43 on: June 21, 2016, 07:43:26 PM »

people who are allowed to purchase assault rifles.


While I might be "allowed" to purchase one after the 6 month long background check that's required, I wish I had the $20,000 on up than one costs...

I researched the price of AR15 type weapons and looks like you could buy at least 10 for that 20k.  I see prices of 700 to 2200.  Maybe you're referring to the genuine article though. No idea about that but I'm sure the cheap civilian models will get the job done cooldude


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An assault rifle is a selective-fire rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle


And just for S&G, here's the first true assault rifle I found for sale on GunBroker:

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/563792446

(For posterity, it has a minimum bid price of $24,999.99)



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No matter the facts that the iggerent could verify for themselves they will choose to be iggerent.

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« Reply #44 on: June 21, 2016, 08:33:50 PM »

people who are allowed to purchase assault rifles.


While I might be "allowed" to purchase one after the 6 month long background check that's required, I wish I had the $20,000 on up than one costs...

I researched the price of AR15 type weapons and looks like you could buy at least 10 for that 20k.  I see prices of 700 to 2200.  Maybe you're referring to the genuine article though. No idea about that but I'm sure the cheap civilian models will get the job done cooldude


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An assault rifle is a selective-fire rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle


And just for S&G, here's the first true assault rifle I found for sale on GunBroker:

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/563792446

(For posterity, it has a minimum bid price of $24,999.99)



Somes born iggerent.

Somes become iggerent.

Somes have iggerence thrust upon them.

No matter the facts that the iggerent could verify for themselves they will choose to be iggerent.

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« Reply #45 on: June 22, 2016, 09:56:28 PM »

people who are allowed to purchase assault rifles.


While I might be "allowed" to purchase one after the 6 month long background check that's required, I wish I had the $20,000 on up than one costs...

I researched the price of AR15 type weapons and looks like you could buy at least 10 for that 20k.  I see prices of 700 to 2200.  Maybe you're referring to the genuine article though. No idea about that but I'm sure the cheap civilian models will get the job done cooldude


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An assault rifle is a selective-fire rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle


And just for S&G, here's the first true assault rifle I found for sale on GunBroker:

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/563792446

(For posterity, it has a minimum bid price of $24,999.99)



Somes born iggerent.

Somes become iggerent.

Somes have iggerence thrust upon them.

No matter the facts that the iggerent could verify for themselves they will choose to be iggerent.

A mind is a terrible thing to waste but the congenital iggerent don't care.
Britman, are you calling people gnorant because they dont know the price of assault weapons or the legal definition?  You do know that everybody is ignorant, just about different things.
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« Reply #46 on: June 22, 2016, 10:44:30 PM »

An ASSAULT RIFLE is select fire, semi or full automatic machine gun. NFA regulated, and very expensive.

An AR15 (and civilian variants) is only semi automatic, is not an assault rifle (despite all the lying press and gun hater's ignorance) and can be had for around $600 and up.
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« Reply #47 on: June 23, 2016, 03:24:36 AM »

An ASSAULT RIFLE is select fire, semi or full automatic machine gun. NFA regulated, and very expensive.

An AR15 (and civilian variants) is only semi automatic, is not an assault rifle (despite all the lying press and gun hater's ignorance) and can be had for around $600 and up.

Jess,
You can explain the difference all day and night but, you can't make them understand.   Roll Eyes
One must actually listen and consider the facts and they ain't listening much less using their noggins.  Wink
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« Reply #48 on: June 23, 2016, 04:11:14 AM »

An ASSAULT RIFLE is select fire, semi or full automatic machine gun. NFA regulated, and very expensive.

An AR15 (and civilian variants) is only semi automatic, is not an assault rifle (despite all the lying press and gun hater's ignorance) and can be had for around $600 and up.

Jess,
You can explain the difference all day and night but, you can't make them understand.   Roll Eyes
One must actually listen and consider the facts and they ain't listening much less using their noggins.  Wink

Yep. Just another example of the fundamental differences in thinking and reasoning which sometimes separates the left and the right. As in, reasoning based on a love of freedom and facts verses reasoning based on emotion. I don't think I have to expand on who's who.
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« Reply #49 on: June 23, 2016, 04:42:16 AM »

people who are allowed to purchase assault rifles.


While I might be "allowed" to purchase one after the 6 month long background check that's required, I wish I had the $20,000 on up than one costs...

I researched the price of AR15 type weapons and looks like you could buy at least 10 for that 20k.  I see prices of 700 to 2200.  Maybe you're referring to the genuine article though. No idea about that but I'm sure the cheap civilian models will get the job done cooldude


Quote
An assault rifle is a selective-fire rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle


And just for S&G, here's the first true assault rifle I found for sale on GunBroker:

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/563792446

(For posterity, it has a minimum bid price of $24,999.99)



Somes born iggerent.

Somes become iggerent.

Somes have iggerence thrust upon them.

No matter the facts that the iggerent could verify for themselves they will choose to be iggerent.

A mind is a terrible thing to waste but the congenital iggerent don't care.
Britman, are you calling people gnorant because they dont know the price of assault weapons or the legal definition?  You do know that everybody is ignorant, just about different things.


See the post below mine. Facts that some don't be able to grasp even having had it explained in simple English.
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« Reply #50 on: June 23, 2016, 08:07:46 AM »

Only the deranged, deluded, truly arroganbt or feeble minded believe they have all the answers or that their beliefs are correct beyond doubt. It's an affliction of youth and old age. I have zero nterest in firearms and did not know the difference of what I was so kindly informed about. Thank you.  That is a fact I am no longer ignorant about. Unfortunately, I remain ignorant of many questions and facts that exist in this old Cosmos.  If you would like to further display your knowledge of the life's mysteries, I would be pleased to begin a daily "Ask Britman" thread in which I could pose simple (for you) questions which you could answer, further reducing my ignorance.  As a consultant to the industry I'm retired from I'm having a little difficulty in writing the design specs for a wet bulb temperature control methodology in a particular psychometric process.  It would be so much easier just to ask here than work through the variables and tedious math required. Now I can't start tomorrow as I'm traveling to a research hospital as a participant in a cochlear implant study but Monday would be a great time to start. cooldude
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« Reply #51 on: June 23, 2016, 08:15:38 AM »

I'm traveling to a research hospital as a participant in a cochlear implant study but Monday would be a great time to start. cooldude

I can't help you with those other issues but, wish you well with the implant study.   I'm sure that won't be fun.   
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« Reply #52 on: June 23, 2016, 08:19:23 AM »

Only the deranged, deluded, truly arroganbt or feeble minded believe they have all the answers or that their beliefs are correct beyond doubt. It's an affliction of youth and old age. I have zero nterest in firearms and did not know the difference of what I was so kindly informed about. Thank you.  That is a fact I am no longer ignorant about. Unfortunately, I remain ignorant of many questions and facts that exist in this old Cosmos.  If you would like to further display your knowledge of the life's mysteries, I would be pleased to begin a daily "Ask Britman" thread in which I could pose simple (for you) questions which you could answer, further reducing my ignorance.  As a consultant to the industry I'm retired from I'm having a little difficulty in writing the design specs for a wet bulb temperature control methodology in a particular psychometric process.  It would be so much easier just to ask here than work through the variables and tedious math required. Now I can't start tomorrow as I'm traveling to a research hospital as a participant in a cochlear implant study but Monday would be a great time to start. cooldude

I will, sincerely, help educate you on firearms if you so wish, but I do find it highly frustrating when people advocate banning things that are already banned or that they don't understand.

I'm no guru, but I know my way around a gun. I'm still learning, and will continue doing so until I shuffle off this mortal coil.

BTW, if you're interested in cochlear implants, read up on Rush Limbaugh. He has one and has been quite vocal about it's effectiveness.
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« Reply #53 on: June 23, 2016, 10:21:48 AM »

Only the deranged, deluded, truly arroganbt or feeble minded believe they have all the answers or that their beliefs are correct beyond doubt. It's an affliction of youth and old age. ...

CI, the Rules of the Road clearly prohibit personal attacks.  I am personally offended that you would call me deranged, deluded and truly arroganbt.   Sad  Deranged would have easily been adequate.   tickedoff
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« Reply #54 on: June 23, 2016, 10:39:47 AM »

if I was Hillary Clinton I wouldn't expose myself unnecessarily by having rallies either based on the daily hate I read in just this single forum much less the broader group of right wing extremists, neo-cons, paranoid gun owners and deluded emotional thinkers not to mention just plain crazy people who are allowed to purchase assault rifles.

what is an assault rifle? I'd like to hear your explanation of what you believe to be an assault rifle.
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« Reply #55 on: June 23, 2016, 11:36:23 AM »

if I was Hillary Clinton I wouldn't expose myself unnecessarily by having rallies either based on the daily hate I read in just this single forum much less the broader group of right wing extremists, neo-cons, paranoid gun owners and deluded emotional thinkers not to mention just plain crazy people who are allowed to purchase assault rifles.

what is an assault rifle? I'd like to hear your explanation of what you believe to be an assault rifle.

I imagine it's pointless to wait for an answer.  It's like those "Ferrari" body kits for Pontiac Fieros.  It has the same cosmetics as a Ferrari, therefore it needs to be insured like one.
By the anti-gunners own logic, putting a wing and under-body airdams on my Accord will make it as fast and manuverable as a racing vehicle, you know, because it looks like one.
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« Reply #56 on: June 23, 2016, 11:48:39 AM »

It's like those "Ferrari" body kits for Pontiac Fieros.  It has the same cosmetics as a Ferrari, therefore it needs to be insured like one.
By the anti-gunners own logic, putting a wing and under-body airdams on my Accord will make it as fast and manuverable as a racing vehicle, you know, because it looks like one.
A short iinfo-mercial break:
Whoa, that hit close to home.  Wink
I've had 19 of those Fiero critters, none with body kits but, most had some kind of drive train conversion.  The only one I have left now has a 3800 Super Charged V6.   That baby will scoot.
Now you will be returned to your regularly scheduled programing.  Wink

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« Reply #57 on: June 23, 2016, 11:57:01 AM »

It's like those "Ferrari" body kits for Pontiac Fieros.  It has the same cosmetics as a Ferrari, therefore it needs to be insured like one.
By the anti-gunners own logic, putting a wing and under-body airdams on my Accord will make it as fast and manuverable as a racing vehicle, you know, because it looks like one.
A short iinfo-mercial break:
Whoa, that hit close to home.  Wink
I've had 19 of those Fiero critters, none with body kits but, most had some kind of drive train conversion.  The only one I have left now has a 3800 Super Charged V6.   That baby will scoot.
Now you will be returned to your regularly scheduled programing.  Wink



So you admit to purchasing a modified car with the intent to speed, or converting said car yourself?  Wow, converted it to an assault car.  I'm gonna call the ATF, FBI, CIA, IRS, AARP, and lastly, AAA.
 
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« Reply #58 on: June 23, 2016, 12:04:44 PM »

I've had 19 of those Fiero critters

I used to love looking at Fieros...
...getting smaller and smaller...
...in the rearview mirror of my MR2s...

 2funny
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« Reply #59 on: June 23, 2016, 12:17:19 PM »


So you admit to purchasing a modified car with the intent to speed, or converting said car yourself?  Wow, converted it to an assault car.  I'm gonna call the ATF, FBI, CIA, IRS, AARP, and lastly, AAA.
 

I admit nothing, I have never had a speeding ticket in a Fiero.   The police always gave up and stopped the MR2s that were trying to catch me.   2funny

Edited:  Oops, sorry Serk, just saw your post.    Apparently, those Fiero were either stockers or, headed the opposite direction.   Either way, I understand your confusion.  Evil
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« Reply #60 on: June 23, 2016, 12:33:08 PM »


So you admit to purchasing a modified car with the intent to speed, or converting said car yourself?  Wow, converted it to an assault car.  I'm gonna call the ATF, FBI, CIA, IRS, AARP, and lastly, AAA.
 

I admit nothing, I have never had a speeding ticket in a Fiero.   The police always gave up and stopped the MR2s that were trying to catch me.   2funny

Edited:  Oops, sorry Serk, just saw your post.    Apparently, those Fiero were either stockers or, headed the opposite direction.   Either way, I understand your confusion.  Evil

Good save, good save...

...unlike a Fiero would do against an MR2... Wink


But then look at us, talking about those evil assault cars!
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« Reply #61 on: June 23, 2016, 12:36:38 PM »


So you admit to purchasing a modified car with the intent to speed, or converting said car yourself?  Wow, converted it to an assault car.  I'm gonna call the ATF, FBI, CIA, IRS, AARP, and lastly, AAA.
 

I admit nothing, I have never had a speeding ticket in a Fiero.   The police always gave up and stopped the MR2s that were trying to catch me.   2funny

Edited:  Oops, sorry Serk, just saw your post.    Apparently, those Fiero were either stockers or, headed the opposite direction.   Either way, I understand your confusion.  Evil

Good save, good save...

...unlike a Fiero would do against an MR2... Wink


But then look at us, talking about those evil assault cars!


Wink

Well, I've still got my Fiero, let's see how that MR2 does.   Not that we would ever do anything illegal.  No, not us................................   angel
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« Reply #62 on: June 23, 2016, 12:38:02 PM »

Only the deranged, deluded, truly arroganbt or feeble minded believe they have all the answers or that their beliefs are correct beyond doubt. It's an affliction of youth and old age. ...

CI, the Rules of the Road clearly prohibit personal attacks.  I am personally offended that you would call me deranged, deluded and truly arroganbt.   Sad  Deranged would have easily been adequate.   tickedoff

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« Reply #63 on: June 23, 2016, 12:40:54 PM »

Oh yeah rub it in, rub it in... Had an '88 before this one, but this one was my baby...

Had to sell it when the triplets came along, but some day I'm gonna drop an unholy amount of money getting a fully restored replacement...

My '93 MR2 Turbo Assault Car
Upgraded CT-27 Turbo
Greddy boost controller
Apexi high flow intake
Had it chipped and dyno tuned by ATS Racing

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« Reply #64 on: June 23, 2016, 01:04:16 PM »

Only the deranged, deluded, truly arroganbt or feeble minded believe they have all the answers or that their beliefs are correct beyond doubt. It's an affliction of youth and old age. ...

CI, the Rules of the Road clearly prohibit personal attacks.  I am personally offended that you would call me deranged, deluded and truly arroganbt.   Sad  Deranged would have easily been adequate.   tickedoff

And feeble-minded, don't forget feeble-minded.

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« Reply #65 on: June 23, 2016, 01:06:42 PM »

Oh yeah rub it in, rub it in... Had an '88 before this one, but this one was my baby...

Had to sell it when the triplets came along, but some day I'm gonna drop an unholy amount of money getting a fully restored replacement...

My '93 MR2 Turbo Assault Car
Upgraded CT-27 Turbo
Greddy boost controller
Apexi high flow intake
Had it chipped and dyno tuned by ATS Racing
How come no Ferrari kit?
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« Reply #66 on: June 23, 2016, 02:15:53 PM »

I'm traveling to a research hospital as a participant in a cochlear implant study but Monday would be a great time to start. cooldude

I can't help you with those other issues but, wish you well with the implant study.   I'm sure that won't be fun.  
Well bless you Rams for your concern.  It's not a big deal though. I've had the implant for over 3 years and am one of the lucky small percent of recipients it does not help. In fact it made things worse and that is why I now consider myself deaf rather than merely hearing impaired.  The study is not about me but about a new method to program them to determine if it's a better way in general for everybody. And I knew about Rush.  I used to try and listen but couldn't because it was just too one sided for me.  Like trying to listen to PBS's Bill Moyer.  I already knew what was coming.
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« Reply #67 on: June 23, 2016, 02:22:08 PM »

if I was Hillary Clinton I wouldn't expose myself unnecessarily by having rallies either based on the daily hate I read in just this single forum much less the broader group of right wing extremists, neo-cons, paranoid gun owners and deluded emotional thinkers not to mention just plain crazy people who are allowed to purchase assault rifles.

what is an assault rifle? I'd like to hear your explanation of what you believe to be an assault rifle.

I imagine it's pointless to wait for an answer.  It's like those "Ferrari" body kits for Pontiac Fieros.  It has the same cosmetics as a Ferrari, therefore it needs to be insured like one.
By the anti-gunners own logic, putting a wing and under-body airdams on my Accord will make it as fast and manuverable as a racing vehicle, you know, because it looks like one.
Try to keep up please.  I have already explained I know nothing of firearms and thanked the good people who have fixed my ignorance about what an assault weapon is compared to a generally available generic AR. 
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« Reply #68 on: June 23, 2016, 02:33:03 PM »

if I was Hillary Clinton I wouldn't expose myself unnecessarily by having rallies either based on the daily hate I read in just this single forum much less the broader group of right wing extremists, neo-cons, paranoid gun owners and deluded emotional thinkers not to mention just plain crazy people who are allowed to purchase assault rifles.

what is an assault rifle? I'd like to hear your explanation of what you believe to be an assault rifle.

I imagine it's pointless to wait for an answer.  It's like those "Ferrari" body kits for Pontiac Fieros.  It has the same cosmetics as a Ferrari, therefore it needs to be insured like one.
By the anti-gunners own logic, putting a wing and under-body airdams on my Accord will make it as fast and manuverable as a racing vehicle, you know, because it looks like one.
Try to keep up please.  I have already explained I know nothing of firearms and thanked the good people who have fixed my ignorance about what an assault weapon is compared to a generally available generic AR. 

Point taken, but one more question:  Has it swayed your opinion to know that the media (and the politicians who say the same thing) have been lying to you all of this time?
You have been educated on the difference, but does your opinion change?
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« Reply #69 on: June 23, 2016, 02:38:28 PM »

Only the deranged, deluded, truly arroganbt or feeble minded believe they have all the answers or that their beliefs are correct beyond doubt. It's an affliction of youth and old age. ...

CI, the Rules of the Road clearly prohibit personal attacks.  I am personally offended that you would call me deranged, deluded and truly arroganbt.   Sad  Deranged would have easily been adequate.   tickedoff
lol.  Sorry if you actually took it as a personal attack.  And I know about the rules of the road but since 98Valk called meathead and baldo mentally ill yesterday, and I've been called ignorant and a libatard, it's only par for the course here.  
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« Reply #70 on: June 23, 2016, 02:43:05 PM »

Only the deranged, deluded, truly arroganbt or feeble minded believe they have all the answers or that their beliefs are correct beyond doubt. It's an affliction of youth and old age. ...

CI, the Rules of the Road clearly prohibit personal attacks.  I am personally offended that you would call me deranged, deluded and truly arroganbt.   Sad  Deranged would have easily been adequate.   tickedoff
lol.  Sorry if you actually took it as a personal attack.  And I know about the rules of the road but since 98Valk called meathead and baldo mentally ill yesterday, and I've been called me ignorant and a libatard, it's only par for the course here.  

Oooh, the Hillary email defense!  Others did it, so she could, too! (totally kidding).
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« Reply #71 on: June 23, 2016, 02:53:19 PM »

Sorry, all this brings to mind is Altamont Speedway 1969. The stigma from that incident still hangs over the motorcycle world.

Two differences, one: it's not the Rolling Stones putting the MC in charge of security, two: they're not Hells Angels.   Good on the MC for being a positive instead of the usually perceived negative.  I was a cop in CA when Sonny Barger was taken down and I saw first hand his MC's handy work.  Most people have no idea what their talking about when it comes to MC's like that.  I've been riding since I was 10 years old and I have the utmost respect for SOME MC's who make it their mission to do positive things for a community or cause.
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« Reply #72 on: June 23, 2016, 03:20:56 PM »

if I was Hillary Clinton I wouldn't expose myself unnecessarily by having rallies either based on the daily hate I read in just this single forum much less the broader group of right wing extremists, neo-cons, paranoid gun owners and deluded emotional thinkers not to mention just plain crazy people who are allowed to purchase assault rifles.

what is an assault rifle? I'd like to hear your explanation of what you believe to be an assault rifle.

I imagine it's pointless to wait for an answer.  It's like those "Ferrari" body kits for Pontiac Fieros.  It has the same cosmetics as a Ferrari, therefore it needs to be insured like one.
By the anti-gunners own logic, putting a wing and under-body airdams on my Accord will make it as fast and manuverable as a racing vehicle, you know, because it looks like one.
Try to keep up please.  I have already explained I know nothing of firearms and thanked the good people who have fixed my ignorance about what an assault weapon is compared to a generally available generic AR.  

Point taken, but one more question:  Has it swayed your opinion to know that the media (and the politicians who say the same thing) have been lying to you all of this time?
You have been educated on the difference, but does your opinion change?
PB, first, thank you for a polite, reasonable question. My answer is no. I simply don't see the point of owning either.  I can understand wanting to own a handgun and even having a permit to carry, heck even open carry.  I get that viewpoint and understand the desire for self protection.  And understand the point that if the people at that Florida nightclub had been armed, the toll would have been less.  But, I also understand how situations arise that quickly and unnecessarily escalate and how just a moment of anger could become tragic for the participant or bystanders.  I understand testosterone levels rise in some situations causing some to take leave of normal common sense.

But I do not understand why one would want or need a weapon like those in question.  I think in the long run having too many guns around is going to cause more problems than not on a personal and societal level.  I don't believe having them around is going to have any real effect on governmental operations.  I was just thinking the other day about all the guns in the hands of an aging population, of who I am one.  I know if I do not die suddenly I will likely just (continue) to lose mental ability if not become outright senile  In that case I don't want guns easily available to me least as a half senile old man I panicked over an innocent situation, such as a person unexpectedly coming by to check on me and in a confused state mistook them for an intruder.  Or being in an incapacitated state I attacked innocents.  Having been around impaired elderly a bit the thought scares me.  
Sorry about the length, it's not an easy subject.  
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« Reply #73 on: June 23, 2016, 03:27:36 PM »

 Sorry if you actually took it as a personal attack.  And I know about the rules of the road but since 98Valk called meathead and baldo mentally ill yesterday, and I've been called ignorant and a libatard, it's only par for the course here.  

Thank you....I don't know about meathead, but I was hurt. Deep down, really hurt....

I'm much better today.  Cheesy Cheesy
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« Reply #74 on: June 23, 2016, 03:34:16 PM »

Glad your better.  Us ignorant libatards (am I spelling that right?) have to stick together Roll Eyes
And I'm done with this thread, gone on too long and I apologise for adding to the length.  Everybody ride safe, stay cool.
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« Reply #75 on: June 23, 2016, 03:47:00 PM »

Only the deranged, deluded, truly arroganbt or feeble minded believe they have all the answers or that their beliefs are correct beyond doubt. It's an affliction of youth and old age. ...

CI, the Rules of the Road clearly prohibit personal attacks.  I am personally offended that you would call me deranged, deluded and truly arroganbt.   Sad  Deranged would have easily been adequate.   tickedoff
lol.  Sorry if you actually took it as a personal attack.  And I know about the rules of the road but since 98Valk called meathead and baldo mentally ill yesterday, and I've been called ignorant and a libatard, it's only par for the course here.  
HE DID ! THAT FREAKING RAT BASTARD !   tickedoff tickedoff But you know now that I think of it, if we did a poll on here I might get a majority to go along with CA's assessment of me. But there are many things liberals and conservatives have in common. One of them is that I don't really give a rat's ass about some people's opinions of me. I will say it's very liberating.  Smiley
  Seriously though, thank you CI_borg.  But don't feel like you need to defend my honor to a guy like CA.  coolsmiley
We just did 8 hours riding to Prescott. Life is good. Leaving the hotel to go partake of some of it.  Smiley
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« Reply #76 on: June 23, 2016, 04:13:10 PM »

Only the deranged, deluded, truly arroganbt or feeble minded believe they have all the answers or that their beliefs are correct beyond doubt. It's an affliction of youth and old age. ...

CI, the Rules of the Road clearly prohibit personal attacks.  I am personally offended that you would call me deranged, deluded and truly arroganbt.   Sad  Deranged would have easily been adequate.   tickedoff
lol.  Sorry if you actually took it as a personal attack.  And I know about the rules of the road but since 98Valk called meathead and baldo mentally ill yesterday, and I've been called ignorant and a libatard, it's only par for the course here.  
HE DID ! THAT FREAKING RAT BASTARD !   tickedoff tickedoff But you know now that I think of it, if we did a poll on here I might get a majority to go along with CA's assessment of me. But there are many things liberals and conservatives have in common. One of them is that I don't really give a rat's ass about some people's opinions of me. I will say it's very liberating.  Smiley
  Seriously though, thank you CI_borg.  But don't feel like you need to defend my honor to a guy like CA.  coolsmiley
We just did 8 hours riding to Prescott. Life is good. Leaving the hotel to go partake of some of it.  Smiley


I like the cut of your jib, mh...Well said.... Grin Grin

Maybe us libs should have a secret password, (it wouldn't have to be too tough)  Cheesy Cheesy

Or maybe a secret handshake, we could use it on our next ride.....

But you're right, there are many things we all have in common. I'm not quite sure what they are, but they're there..... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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« Reply #77 on: June 23, 2016, 04:50:12 PM »

Or maybe a secret handshake

You meant like a reach-around?    Grin
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« Reply #78 on: June 23, 2016, 05:08:06 PM »

Or maybe a secret handshake

You meant like a reach-around?    Grin

Well I don't know. Is that what you guys do?
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« Reply #79 on: June 23, 2016, 05:17:29 PM »

Or maybe a secret handshake

You meant like a reach-around?    Grin

Well I don't know. Is that what you guys do?

It's what we do when we're around liberals...

We reach around and cover out wallets, to try to keep 'em from stealing from us...

Sorry, didn't mean stealing, meant "Paying our fair share", gotta use the newspeak terminology.
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