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« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2016, 02:25:36 PM » |
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 (Not yet confirmed, but I'd be willing to bet $100 that it was someone from The Religion of Peace that did this if anyone would like to take that bet... Offer expires in 2 hours from post time (Assuming the identity will be known by that time or near)) |
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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2016, 03:50:23 PM » |
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IT'S THE GUNS FAULT. Just ask Zero, the Hildebeast, Schumer, Pee-loosely, Bloomberg, my father-in-law - Hell - any liberal.
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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2016, 03:55:11 PM » |
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IT'S THE GUNS FAULT. Just ask Zero, the Hildebeast, Schumer, Pee-loosely, Bloomberg, my father-in-law - Hell - any liberal.
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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2016, 04:04:58 PM » |
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 (And yes, I admit it, I have become extremely jaded about this... I do offer sincere condolences to those that have been killed and injured, as well as their families...  ) |
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(And yes, I admit it, I have become extremely jaded about this... I do offer sincere condolences to those that have been killed and injured, as well as their families... ) Thats more than jaded my friend.  |
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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2016, 04:22:05 PM » |
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Thats more than jaded my friend. When a Muslim extremist murders gay people and Republicans and the NRA are blamed... ...when the official Al Qaeda magazine is telling it's terrorists to try to target white people when they attack in the US to avoid their attacks being mislabeled as "Hate Crimes"... I don't think it's really THAT jaded... (Sources - http://www.foreigndesknews.com/world/us/al-qaeda-jihadis-target-white-americans-avoid-minorities-us-mislabels-attacks-hate-crime/ and from the New York Pride Parade (That Hillary marched in:  ) |
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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2016, 04:42:50 PM » |
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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2016, 04:45:45 PM » |
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My wife was through that airport twice this month.
I'm sure they weren't targeting any Americans using the International Terminal. Bastids. |
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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2016, 04:48:25 PM » |
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If any blamed republicans and the NRA for the Pulse shooting they were wrong. If any blames Obama for only going after bible thumpers and confederates they are also wrong. |
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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2016, 04:49:22 PM » |
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Republicans? Christians? NRA? Right wing extremests? Gun lovers? Conservatives?
Take your pick, according to Obama and Hillary. Some or all. Mix or match.
Just DO NOT DARE mention, shhhhhh.........Muslims. sh.
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« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2016, 04:50:27 PM » |
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If any blamed republicans and the NRA for the Pulse shooting they were wrong. If any blames Obama for only going after bible thumpers and confederates they are also wrong. Obama goes after anyone he thinks will better his corrupt politics. |
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« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2016, 04:51:19 PM » |
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If any blamed republicans and the NRA for the Pulse shooting they were wrong. If any blames Obama for only going after bible thumpers and confederates they are also wrong. Obama sure as H... went after every conservative group there is for the Orlando shooting......EXCEPT Extreme Muslim Terrorists. They were the ONLY ones he, and the other gun hating Liberals, did NOT blame. |
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« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2016, 04:59:43 PM » |
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Obama blamed every conservative group for the Pulse shooting ? I follow the news pretty good and never saw that. If you would care to enlighten me with some quotes ?
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« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2016, 05:03:38 PM » |
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My wife was through that airport twice this month.
Hopefully not today... and I hope her friends and family are safe... (Wife? Or ex-wife? Feel free to tell me to mind my own business...) |
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« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2016, 05:11:29 PM » |
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(And yes, I admit it, I have become extremely jaded about this... I do offer sincere condolences to those that have been killed and injured, as well as their families... ) I love it and its not wrong to point out hypocrisy, the truth hurts sometimes regardless of the subversives/liberals |
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« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2016, 08:04:07 PM » |
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Obama blamed every conservative group for the Pulse shooting ? I follow the news pretty good and never saw that. If you would care to enlighten me with some quotes ?
IF THE ORLANDO SHOOTER DOESN'T REPRESENT ALL MUSLIMS, WHY DOES HE REPRESENT ALL GUN OWNERS? What is the first thing O'Idiot and the liberals start preaching after a mass shooting by a Muslim? Gun control. |
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« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2016, 08:19:51 PM » |
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Obama blamed every conservative group for the Pulse shooting ? I follow the news pretty good and never saw that. If you would care to enlighten me with some quotes ?
IF THE ORLANDO SHOOTER DOESN'T REPRESENT ALL MUSLIMS, WHY DOES HE REPRESENT ALL GUN OWNERS? What is the first thing O'Idiot and the liberals start preaching after a mass shooting by a Muslim? Gun control. Trying to get strengthened background checks is blaming all conservative groups ? Come on Pappy, you can do better than that. |
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« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2016, 08:20:22 PM » |
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Obama blamed every conservative group for the Pulse shooting ? I follow the news pretty good and never saw that. If you would care to enlighten me with some quotes ?
IF THE ORLANDO SHOOTER DOESN'T REPRESENT ALL MUSLIMS, WHY DOES HE REPRESENT ALL GUN OWNERS? What is the first thing O'Idiot and the liberals start preaching after a mass shooting by a Muslim? Gun control. Great point Pappy maybe someone should ask O that same freakin question! Can you imagine the blank stare that would get  And Meathead you just don't get it dude Background checks are already in place. But someone decided that he didn't warrant looking into further after being on an FBI watch 3 times. |
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« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2016, 08:26:08 PM » |
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Obama blamed every conservative group for the Pulse shooting ? I follow the news pretty good and never saw that. If you would care to enlighten me with some quotes ?
IF THE ORLANDO SHOOTER DOESN'T REPRESENT ALL MUSLIMS, WHY DOES HE REPRESENT ALL GUN OWNERS? What is the first thing O'Idiot and the liberals start preaching after a mass shooting by a Muslim? Gun control. Great point Pappy maybe someone should ask O that same freakin question! Can you imagine the blank stare that would get And Meathead you just don't get it dude Background checks are already in place. But someone decided that he didn't warrant looking into further after being on an FBI watch 3 times. Bighead, the statement was made that Obama blamed the shooting on all conservative groups. How is that ? |
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« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2016, 08:44:59 PM » |
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My wife was through that airport twice this month.
Hopefully not today... and I hope her friends and family are safe... (Wife? Or ex-wife? Feel free to tell me to mind my own business...) Legally my wife, factually my ex-wife. (see PM) |
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« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2016, 08:53:52 PM » |
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If any blamed republicans and the NRA for the Pulse shooting they were wrong. If any blames Obama for only going after bible thumpers and confederates they are also wrong.
One nut job shoots up a church and we're digging up war heroes and tearing down statues... However yet another Muslim causes mass death and mayhem, and we're told to not judge all Muslims by the actions of a few... Big time double standard there... |
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« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2016, 09:14:34 PM » |
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If any blamed republicans and the NRA for the Pulse shooting they were wrong. If any blames Obama for only going after bible thumpers and confederates they are also wrong.
One nut job shoots up a church and we're digging up war heroes and tearing down statues... However yet another Muslim causes mass death and mayhem, and we're told to not judge all Muslims by the actions of a few... Big time double standard there... Not quite. There had been resentment to the rebel flag for decades . |
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If any blamed republicans and the NRA for the Pulse shooting they were wrong. If any blames Obama for only going after bible thumpers and confederates they are also wrong.
One nut job shoots up a church and we're digging up war heroes and tearing down statues... However yet another Muslim causes mass death and mayhem, and we're told to not judge all Muslims by the actions of a few... Big time double standard there... Yes. Because it would stretch the intelligence of too many Americans to note that Turkey is a Muslim country (majority Sunni), therefore the airport was filled mostly with... Muslims (watch the security camera tapes) and therefore, the majority of victims will BE...Muslim ("foreigners among the dead") But reality doesn't stop people, like Trump and his supporters, from finger-pointing that Muslims are a risk...because, of course, the peaceful Muslims who just got attacked, and killed, in their own capital never seem to really count, do they?  |
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« Reply #25 on: June 28, 2016, 11:23:10 PM » |
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Of course, another way to look at this is that these murdering animals don't really care who they kill (including fellow muslims), yet all of these murdering animals are indeed muslims.
And I guess you are so sure in your belief that only good and peaceful muslims will be allowed to immigrate, that you will happily volunteer your own neighborhood for the next few hundred to be housed.
I served two tours in Turkey (in the 80's) and found the people to be as kind and courteous and generous as any I had ever met anywhere (and I married one), and I am sorry for their losses, but I doubt many of our new immigrants from the Middle East are coming from Turkey, or that anything like actual vetting is being accomplished before they come.
Until all of the murdering animals are exterminated* (or they decide to forever quit and return to whatever they did before becoming murdering animals), how does allowing any immigration from the Middle East (beyond extremely limited circumstances) serve our national interests?
*Think Iwo Jima, Saipan, Okinawa.
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Whoa ! Talk about reaching. "Our politics are to blame" is a statement that we as a people (meaning all of us) can't get things done. That is nowhere close to saying it is conservatives fault for the Orlando shootings. I realize you hate the guy, but come on.  |
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Whoa ! Talk about reaching. "Our politics are to blame" is a statement that we as a people (meaning all of us) can't get things done. That is nowhere close to saying it is conservatives fault for the Orlando shootings. I realize you hate the guy, but come on. Read the rest of the quote. Please. You did not. The politics to blame is about not passing gun legislation. There are two sides to that. He is attacking the conservative side. |
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Whoa ! Talk about reaching. "Our politics are to blame" is a statement that we as a people (meaning all of us) can't get things done. That is nowhere close to saying it is conservatives fault for the Orlando shootings. I realize you hate the guy, but come on. Read the rest of the quote. Please. You did not. The politics to blame is about not passing gun legislation. There are two sides to that. He is attacking the conservative side. He is "attacking" conservatives for not being able to move on legislation that the majority of their party agrees with. How is that blaming all conservatives for the shooting in Orlando ? |
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Pretty sure it was a workplace violence incident committed by a white Mormon, as were all the other terrorists attacks in the World. We know it can't be the muslims, as islam is the "Religion of Peace" as "Bathroom Barry" keeps telling us, from his podium at the White House where he removed all American flags and replaced them with sharia prayer cloths.
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Why if O had signed new laws into effect by executive orders did he not include this in his pen and phone laws. Actually like O care if the majority had approved of new laws it would have gotten passed.
If the Muslims really wanted to stop this why do we have Muslim countries hosting these terrorists and promoting them? Why don't the host countries arrest them? Follow the money also and see where it comes from.
Since some have argued that they know many great Muslims if their god tells them to kill who do you think is going to stop them? So you think friendship will stop them? Ask them also if their god loves them or has he ever told them.
If we have spent trillions of dollars on the war against terror and the only enemy is Muslims why should we have a different attitude here in the US. Is it because they are here that should make the difference? What is the switch?
These are not hate questions just questions that anyone should ask that have never been answered that now we are being told to silence these ideas here and not ask these questions. Why with all other problems is educate the public the answer to fear and worry while this is now silence them
As for new gun laws I dont want them and a majority of the population doesnt want them so why should we at the behest of the Democrats even consider this nonsense. We have never seen a shootout at gun show.
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He is "attacking" conservatives for not being able to move on legislation that the majority of their party agrees with. How is that blaming all conservatives for the shooting in Orlando ?
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IT'S THE GUNS FAULT. Just ask Zero, the Hildebeast, Schumer, Pee-loosely, Bloomberg, my father-in-law - Hell - any liberal.
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It seems the "hate" word is as easily used as the "racist" word by some.
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He is "attacking" conservatives for not being able to move on legislation that the majority of their party agrees with. How is that blaming all conservatives for the shooting in Orlando ?
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IF THE ORLANDO SHOOTER DOESN'T REPRESENT ALL MUSLIMS, WHY DOES HE REPRESENT ALL GUN OWNERS? What is the first thing O'Idiot and the liberals start preaching after a mass shooting by a Muslim? Gun control. Great point Pappy maybe someone should ask O that same freakin question! Can you imagine the blank stare that would get And Meathead you just don't get it dude Background checks are already in place. But someone decided that he didn't warrant looking into further after being on an FBI watch 3 times. Bighead, the statement was made that Obama blamed the shooting on all conservative groups. How is that ? Basically "all conservative groups" are legal gun owners. The ones that do not cause these incidents. This is nothing more than trying to put in place baby steps toward the path of gun confiscation. The system failed us on this one. He was already on a watch list and dropped by the Fed. Why blame all gun owners for a Federal screw up? |
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He is "attacking" conservatives for not being able to move on legislation that the majority of their party agrees with. How is that blaming all conservatives for the shooting in Orlando ?
Meathead, a valiant effort as always. Just let them have their hate orgy, it's just not worth the energy. Thanks, I need to just let this stuff go. I'm going to try to stay away from politics on here. Wish me luck. Good luck, meathead. I don't see it happening. As for what has taken place here it is typical in my view. I don't really care for the diatribes of political extremists on either end although it will come as no surprise to anyone that I tend to lean right, further right than some extremists. What I have noticed is the requests for proof and then when it's presented a response of, "That doesn't count because it's not my news source," or "You obviously misinterpreted what was said." I read the articles MP presented and I saw them precisely as MP indicated. Feel free to tell me if my mind doesn't work right. I've seen the reports that a majority of conservatives support certain gun control measures. I don't believe them. I guess more accurately I would say I don't believe where the lines are being drawn. If someone doesn't see that the President and his representatives have jumped through great hoops to avoid blaming a muslim terrorist for his loyalty to ISIS as he screamed it out before his death and to subsequently claim it was because gun controls are not strict enough, I would say that person's mind isn't working right probably because of how strongly he wants to believe otherwise (blinders). As to more thorough background checks, wasn't that man a security guard? How much more thorough would it have to be? It wasn't the President but another representative of his end of the political spectrum that clearly stated that if Christian conservatives were not so anti gay these murders by a muslim (who was himself suspected of practicing homosexuality) would not have happened. Tell me how that logic works. No, don't. It was rhetorical. I find that utterly too stupid to consider. There is one thing that might have, probably would have, reduced the death count in that club in Orlando. Had even a small number of the patrons been carrying protection and been able to return fire we would not have seen that number of dead from a single gunman. I wonder how more thorough background checks would have helped that solution. Even if more thorough background checks specifically denied any muslim from purchasing a gun I would still be opposed. I'm for free guns for almost everyone (not for three-year-olds). There are still more good guys than bad guys in this country. We need to outnumber them. I am for strong emphasis on safety and marksmanship training. I'm tired of typing now. |
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