who caught O's speech at the police vigil today?

[Gavin_Sons]

Did he really blame the police for what happened in texas? Yep he sure did, and there are still some that think he is great when he is actually the ring leader of tearing this nation apart. He approves the "black lives matter movement" so therefore is promoting violence. It's not just black lives that matter, every life matters but these morons can't get that through their thick heads. 

[therapist]

Did you listen to the entire speech? Because, I did. That never happened. If you can show
me the quote where he said that, I will stand corrected. The speech I heard was filled
with praise for the police. But, he did tell it like it is, regarding the issues in this country
that contribute to the current volatility.

[f6john]

The families of the slain police officers did not need to hear how put upon the black community feels.

[f6gal]

I was so impressed at the first half of his speech, it was truly outstanding!  Then he turned on the rhetoric... so inappropriate in that setting.  This was a memorial to the slain officers... Not the time, not the place for political agenda.  He was the only speaker that did that.

**Edit: I believe this is my first political post, but I'm just disgusted.

[Serk]

I typed up a long reply with choice quotes from His speech but then decided no... It won't do any good, won't change any minds, would enlighten those in darkness, so erased it and will just say three things:

#1. I watched the whole thing, and was so utterly disgusted by how divisive and political that man is. I thought my opinion of him couldn't go any lower, but it just did.

#2. If you want to read a transcript of his speech, it's available here: http://time.com/4403543/president-obama-dallas-shooting-memorial-service-speech-transcript/

#3. I've gained a HELL of a lot of respect for Bush. And I was NEVER a fan of his when he was in charge but wow, such a humble, eloquent, healing speech from him. Obama needs to hire Bush's speech writer! Bush's remarks can be read here - http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-07-12/transcript-george-w-bushs-remarks-at-dallas-memorial-service

[Valkorado]

I was so impressed at the first half of his speech, it was truly outstanding!  Then he turned on the rhetoric... so inappropriate in that setting.  This was a memorial to the slain officers... Not the time, not the place for political agenda.  He was the only speaker that did that.

**Edit: I believe this is my first political post, but I'm just disgusted.

My feelings exactly!

[The emperor has no clothes]

I was so impressed at the first half of his speech, it was truly outstanding!  Then he turned on the rhetoric... so inappropriate in that setting.  This was a memorial to the slain officers... Not the time, not the place for political agenda.  He was the only speaker that did that.

**Edit: I believe this is my first political post, but I'm just disgusted.

I will agree it wasn't the place . He should have waited. I am disappointed not disgusted.

[f6gal]

I was so impressed at the first half of his speech, it was truly outstanding!  Then he turned on the rhetoric... so inappropriate in that setting.  This was a memorial to the slain officers... Not the time, not the place for political agenda.  He was the only speaker that did that.

**Edit: I believe this is my first political post, but I'm just disgusted.

I will agree it wasn't the place . He should have waited. I am disappointed not disgusted.

Perhaps I'm disgusted because I have many close friends and family members in law enforcement.  I know LEOs that have been shot.  I have been to funerals of LEOs that have died in the line of duty.  I have felt the sorrow and pain of such losses.  The memorial service was to honor those men and provide some comfort to their families and friends.  Obama's comments dishonored the sacrifice of those men.  Once his words turned to rhetoric, they provided no comfort to the families and friends... in fact, just the opposite.  The officers and their friends and families did not deserve what he did.  If I could find a stronger verb than disgust, I would use it.

* Edit: My second political post... Yikes!

[Gavin_Sons]

Did you listen to the entire speech? Because, I did. That never happened. If you can show
me the quote where he said that, I will stand corrected. The speech I heard was filled
with praise for the police. But, he did tell it like it is, regarding the issues in this country
that contribute to the current volatility.

No I just made this post because I only listened to a minute of it 
The first half was great, the kind of speech that should be given by a president. Then he did a complete 180 blaming police for these people shooting them. Apparently you ddidn't listen to the whole speech. I was actually proud of O for a few minutes then he pulled his typical bullshit. That man is disgusting.

[98valk]

Did you listen to the entire speech? Because, I did. That never happened. If you can show
me the quote where he said that, I will stand corrected. The speech I heard was filled
with praise for the police. But, he did tell it like it is, regarding the issues in this country
that contribute to the current volatility.

Mark 8:18
Jesus said;
18 Having eyes, do you not see [with them], and having ears, do you not hear and perceive and understand the sense of what is said? And do you not remember?

[Patrick]

Our president can't help but politize [sp] everything. He doesn't know any better.

I much preferred President Bush's speech.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Did you listen to the entire speech? Because, I did. That never happened. If you can show
me the quote where he said that, I will stand corrected. The speech I heard was filled
with praise for the police. But, he did tell it like it is, regarding the issues in this country
that contribute to the current volatility.

No I just made this post because I only listened to a minute of it 
The first half was great, the kind of speech that should be given by a president. Then he did a complete 180 blaming police for these people shooting them. Apparently you ddidn't listen to the whole speech. I was actually proud of O for a few minutes then he pulled his typical bullshit. That man is disgusting.

He did not say that. If you truly believe that I would like to see what you are referring to. Yes he did turn it in to a political agenda speech. He did not blame the cops for this guy shooting them.

[Gavin_Sons]

Did you listen to the entire speech? Because, I did. That never happened. If you can show
me the quote where he said that, I will stand corrected. The speech I heard was filled
with praise for the police. But, he did tell it like it is, regarding the issues in this country
that contribute to the current volatility.

No I just made this post because I only listened to a minute of it 
The first half was great, the kind of speech that should be given by a president. Then he did a complete 180 blaming police for these people shooting them. Apparently you ddidn't listen to the whole speech. I was actually proud of O for a few minutes then he pulled his typical bullshit. That man is disgusting.

He did not say that. If you truly believe that I would like to see what you are referring to. Yes he did turn it in to a political agenda speech. He did not blame the cops for this guy shooting them.

Mark 8:18
Jesus said;
18 Having eyes, do you not see [with them], and having ears, do you not hear and perceive and understand the sense of what is said? And do you not remember?

just saying meathead, Apparently you dont hear the same words come out of his mouth as i do. Or you can't comprehend the words that come out of his mouth.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Did you listen to the entire speech? Because, I did. That never happened. If you can show
me the quote where he said that, I will stand corrected. The speech I heard was filled
with praise for the police. But, he did tell it like it is, regarding the issues in this country
that contribute to the current volatility.

No I just made this post because I only listened to a minute of it 
The first half was great, the kind of speech that should be given by a president. Then he did a complete 180 blaming police for these people shooting them. Apparently you ddidn't listen to the whole speech. I was actually proud of O for a few minutes then he pulled his typical bullshit. That man is disgusting.

He did not say that. If you truly believe that I would like to see what you are referring to. Yes he did turn it in to a political agenda speech. He did not blame the cops for this guy shooting them.

Mark 8:18
Jesus said;
18 Having eyes, do you not see [with them], and having ears, do you not hear and perceive and understand the sense of what is said? And do you not remember?

just saying meathead, Apparently you dont hear the same words come out of his mouth as i do. Or you can't comprehend the words that come out of his mouth.

Gavin, if you really heard him say that, let's see the quote. It didn't happen and you know it. (Or at least you should)

[Gavin_Sons]

Meathead, you are right, he did not exactly say that. But he didn't have to, the whole second half of his speech was just wrong, it was not the place to be saying what he said. It is never the time to say what he said. I wish serk would have posted his quotes he had from it.

[MP]

O HAD to go into gun control, which would NOT have prevented ANY of the recent killings.

His quote "it is easier for a teenager to buy a Glock than a textbook".

How in the H*** is that true?  Take $50, walk in, buy a textbook, and walk out.

To buy a Glock, one MUST be 18, go thru a background check, and pay $4-900 or so.

How is the textbook harder to buy?  Lying thru his teeth again, at a Memorial to fallen Police Officers!  I have given up figuring how low he can go.

[98valk]

from speech;

 And despite the fact that police conduct was the subject of the protest,
 First, the shootings in Minnesota and Baton Rouge,
 we wonder if the divides of race in America can ever be bridged
politicians calculate how to grab attention
She said she wanted her boys to join her to protest the incidents of black men being killed.
Complaints of excessive force have been cut by 64 percent.
but also weep for the families of Alton Sterling and Philando Castile.
 No institution is entirely immune, and that includes our police departments. We know this.
 when study after study shows that whites and people of color experience the criminal justice system differently.  (yes more whites are killed by police then blacks are.)
So that if you’re black, you’re more likely to be pulled over or searched or arrested; more likely to get longer sentences; more likely to get the death penalty for the same crime. When mothers and fathers raised their kids right, and have the talk about how to respond if stopped by a police officer — yes, sir; no, sir — but still fear that something terrible may happen when their child walks out the door; still fear that kids being stupid and not quite doing things right might end in tragedy.

When all this takes place, more than 50 years after the passage of the Civil Rights Act, we cannot simply turn away and dismiss those in peaceful protest as troublemakers or paranoid.
We can’t simply dismiss it as a symptom of political correctness or reverse racism. To have your experience denied like that, dismissed by those in authority, dismissed perhaps even by your white friends and coworkers and fellow church members, again and again and again, it hurts. Surely we can see that, all of us.

MORE LIES...
As a society, we choose to under-invest in decent schools. We allow poverty to fester so that entire neighborhoods offer no prospect for gainful employment. We refuse to fund drug treatment and mental health programs.

We flood communities with so many guns that it is easier for a teenager to buy a Glock than get his hands on a computer or even a book.

So that maybe the police officer sees his own son in that teenager with a hoodie, who’s kind of goofing off but not dangerous.

What parents???
And the teenager — maybe the teenager will see in the police officer the same words, and values and authority of his parents.

But even those who dislike the phrase “black lives matter,” surely, we should be able to hear the pain of Alton Sterling’s family.  (see his criminal record and see O' comment above)

our founders gave us institutions to guard against tyranny and ensure no one is above the law. (he believes him and others are above the laws and why trying to remove the 2nd?)

[The emperor has no clothes]

Meathead, you are right, he did not exactly say that. But he didn't have to, the whole second half of his speech was just wrong, it was not the place to be saying what he said. It is never the time to say what he said. I wish serk would have posted his quotes he had from it.

Thats fine. I agree he shouldn't have made it a political agenda. But that's a long way from saying he blamed the cops for the shootings. When we say things like that it doesn't help our credibility .

[Gavin_Sons]

Meathead, you are right, he did not exactly say that. But he didn't have to, the whole second half of his speech was just wrong, it was not the place to be saying what he said. It is never the time to say what he said. I wish serk would have posted his quotes he had from it.

Thats fine. I agree he shouldn't have made it a political agenda. But that's a long way from saying he blamed the cops for the shootings. When we say things like that it doesn't help our credibility .

please read 98valk response, then tell me he dosen't blame the police.

[Valkorado]

Serk, +1 on W's speech.  Humble, eloquent, heartfelt and unifying.

[MP]

Meathead, you are right, he did not exactly say that. But he didn't have to, the whole second half of his speech was just wrong, it was not the place to be saying what he said. It is never the time to say what he said. I wish serk would have posted his quotes he had from it.

Thats fine. I agree he shouldn't have made it a political agenda. But that's a long way from saying he blamed the cops for the shootings. When we say things like that it doesn't help our credibility .

please read 98valk response, then tell me he dosen't blame the police.

"but also weep for the families of Alton Sterling and Philando Castile.
 No institution is entirely immune, and that includes our police departments. We know this.
 when study after study shows that whites and people of color experience the criminal justice system differently.  (yes more whites are killed by police then blacks are.)
So that if you’re black, you’re more likely to be pulled over or searched or arrested; more likely to get longer sentences; more likely to get the death penalty for the same crime. When mothers and fathers raised their kids right, and have the talk about how to respond if stopped by a police officer — yes, sir; no, sir — but still fear that something terrible may happen when their child walks out the door; still fear that kids being stupid and not quite doing things right might end in tragedy."

Sure sounds like blame to me!  Did he say "I blame the Police"?  No.  But, you sure can infer it.

Just like in previous shootings.  He said "The gun laws or Australia are the gun laws we should have".  Paraphrased.

Yet, the Progressives said he has never called for banning guns.  Yet, these gun laws he lauded, call for EXACTLY that.  One does not have  to say the words exactly.  INFERENCE is allowed.

[The emperor has no clothes]

You guys can read into it whatever you want. Nowhere in that speech does he say or imply the shootings are the cops fault. Yes I agree it wasn't the proper setting for that speech. But to say he is blaming the cops for what happened is just plain B.S.

[Gavin_Sons]

You guys can read into it whatever you want. Nowhere in that speech does he say or imply the shootings are the cops fault. Yes I agree it wasn't the proper setting for that speech. But to say he is blaming the cops for what happened is just plain B.S.

you can powder coat it all you want Meathead, he said what he said and put blame on the police. It is not BS, He had the chance to give a great speech, which it was in the beginning, but he ruined it. if saying, ("No institution is entirely immune, and that includes our police departments. We know this.
 when study after study shows that whites and people of color experience the criminal justice system differently.  (yes more whites are killed by police then blacks are.)
So that if you’re black, you’re more likely to be pulled over or searched or arrested; more likely to get longer sentences; more likely to get the death penalty for the same crime. When mothers and fathers raised their kids right, and have the talk about how to respond if stopped by a police officer — yes, sir; no, sir — but still fear that something terrible may happen when their child walks out the door; still fear that kids being stupid and not quite doing things right might end in tragedy.") is not putting blame on the police officers, then i don't know what is. He might as well have said "all you cops are corrupt and out to get us, this is your fault."

[baldo]

You guys can read into it whatever you want. Nowhere in that speech does he say or imply the shootings are the cops fault. Yes I agree it wasn't the proper setting for that speech. But to say he is blaming the cops for what happened is just plain B.S.

Rob, save your energy and keystrokes. These guys are never going to see things other than the way they want to see and hear them. Nowhere in his speech did he blame cops. He cited the facts, they see it as blame.

And what about W's hoedown? The guy's got the moves, doesn't he? 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1kp_aoFlhA

[Gavin_Sons]

You guys can read into it whatever you want. Nowhere in that speech does he say or imply the shootings are the cops fault. Yes I agree it wasn't the proper setting for that speech. But to say he is blaming the cops for what happened is just plain B.S.

Rob, save your energy and keystrokes. These guys are never going to see things other than the way they want to see and hear them. Nowhere in his speech did he blame cops. He cited the facts, they see it as blame.

And what about W's hoedown? The guy's got the moves, doesn't he? 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1kp_aoFlhA

He cited facts? What fact? That it's  easier for a kid to get a glock than a book? Yes that's pretty factual 

[baldo]

You guys can read into it whatever you want. Nowhere in that speech does he say or imply the shootings are the cops fault. Yes I agree it wasn't the proper setting for that speech. But to say he is blaming the cops for what happened is just plain B.S.

Rob, save your energy and keystrokes. These guys are never going to see things other than the way they want to see and hear them. Nowhere in his speech did he blame cops. He cited the facts, they see it as blame.

And what about W's hoedown? The guy's got the moves, doesn't he? 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1kp_aoFlhA

He cited facts? What fact? That it's  easier for a kid to get a glock than a book? Yes that's pretty factual 

I guess that's the only line you heard.

[Valkorado]

Anyone else noticed when Obama attempts to spank white America with a guilty stick he actually transforms his speech -- inflections, tone and cadence -- in an attempt to sound like a wise old sage on a Tibetan mountaintop?  I noticed it yesterday, and it was obvious in his infamous "Christian Crusades" speech.

It makes me sick.  He talks down to us.  Not cool, not Presidential.

Just an observation.  

[Gavin_Sons]

You guys can read into it whatever you want. Nowhere in that speech does he say or imply the shootings are the cops fault. Yes I agree it wasn't the proper setting for that speech. But to say he is blaming the cops for what happened is just plain B.S.

Rob, save your energy and keystrokes. These guys are never going to see things other than the way they want to see and hear them. Nowhere in his speech did he blame cops. He cited the facts, they see it as blame.

And what about W's hoedown? The guy's got the moves, doesn't he? 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1kp_aoFlhA

He cited facts? What fact? That it's  easier for a kid to get a glock than a book? Yes that's pretty factual 

I guess that's the only line you heard.

Thats more than you heard

[Pete]

O has no credibility left. To many prior lies, much like Hillary.
Many cannot stand to watch or hear him speak and simply turn off him and the TV.
O and Hillary speaking are a waste of HOT air.

[baldo]

You guys can read into it whatever you want. Nowhere in that speech does he say or imply the shootings are the cops fault. Yes I agree it wasn't the proper setting for that speech. But to say he is blaming the cops for what happened is just plain B.S.

Rob, save your energy and keystrokes. These guys are never going to see things other than the way they want to see and hear them. Nowhere in his speech did he blame cops. He cited the facts, they see it as blame.

And what about W's hoedown? The guy's got the moves, doesn't he? 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1kp_aoFlhA

He cited facts? What fact? That it's  easier for a kid to get a glock than a book? Yes that's pretty factual 

I guess that's the only line you heard.

Thats more than you heard

Alright, you win.....

[therapist]

"We know that the overwhelming majority of police officers do an incredibly hard and dangerous job fairly and professionally. They are deserving of our respect and not our scorn.  And when anyone, no matter how good their intentions may be, paints all police as biased or bigoted, we undermine those officers we depend on for our safety. And as for those who use rhetoric suggesting harm to police, even if they don’t act on it themselves -- well, they not only make the jobs of police officers even more dangerous, but they do a disservice to the very cause of justice that they claim to promote.

With an open heart, police departments will acknowledge that, just like the rest of us, they are not perfect; that insisting we do better to root out racial bias is not an attack on cops, but an effort to live up to our highest ideals."

All I hear is respect for police and some honest talk about reality. Here is a link to the entire transcript, because it is obvious many of you are translating the words using your "negative opinion of this President" dictionary.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/full-transcript-president-obamas-speech-dallas-police-memorial/story?id=40521153

[Pete]

I understand he only mentioned himself 45 times, must have been a slow day! and he really must not have said much.

Speaks at  a memorial service and only mentions himself 45 times? What a conceited moron. I guess he forgot who was being memorialized.

[Moonshot_1]

You guys can read into it whatever you want. Nowhere in that speech does he say or imply the shootings are the cops fault. Yes I agree it wasn't the proper setting for that speech. But to say he is blaming the cops for what happened is just plain B.S.

Rob, save your energy and keystrokes. These guys are never going to see things other than the way they want to see and hear them. Nowhere in his speech did he blame cops. He cited the facts, they see it as blame.

And what about W's hoedown? The guy's got the moves, doesn't he? 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1kp_aoFlhA

Rejoicing in God at a Memorial Service is a hoedown? Really? What a sad perspective you have.

Did Obama blame the police for the Dallas LEO murders? No, not directly. But he did something much worse. He stood before the Country and rationalized it. Made it sound like it was a bad thing but a just thing.  His speech did nothing to curb anti police violence but actually encouraged more of it by rationalizing it.

[baldo]

I understand he only mentioned himself 45 times, must have been a slow day! and he really must not have said much.

Speaks at  a memorial service and only mentions himself 45 times? What a conceited moron. I guess he forgot who was being memorialized.

What in the hell are you talking about? I just read through the transcript twice. I must need new glasses. Please clear that up for me.

[The emperor has no clothes]

You guys can read into it whatever you want. Nowhere in that speech does he say or imply the shootings are the cops fault. Yes I agree it wasn't the proper setting for that speech. But to say he is blaming the cops for what happened is just plain B.S.

Rob, save your energy and keystrokes. These guys are never going to see things other than the way they want to see and hear them. Nowhere in his speech did he blame cops. He cited the facts, they see it as blame.

And what about W's hoedown? The guy's got the moves, doesn't he? 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1kp_aoFlhA

Rejoicing in God at a Memorial Service is a hoedown? Really? What a sad perspective you have.

Did Obama blame the police for the Dallas LEO murders? No, not directly. But he did something much worse. He stood before the Country and rationalized it. Made it sound like it was a bad thing but a just thing.  His speech did nothing to curb anti police violence but actually encouraged more of it by rationalizing it.

He pointed out the prejudices in ALL of us. It's there, we need to work on it. Would he have been
better served to give the speech at a different time and place ? Absolutely. But to read into that speech that he is blaming cops is just plain and simply wrong.

[Serk]

I understand he only mentioned himself 45 times, must have been a slow day! and he really must not have said much.

Speaks at  a memorial service and only mentions himself 45 times? What a conceited moron. I guess he forgot who was being memorialized.

What in the hell are you talking about? I just read through the transcript twice. I must need new glasses. Please clear that up for me.

I picked a random paragraph from His speech here:

And that’s what I take away from the lives of these outstanding men. The pain we feel may not soon pass, but my faith tells me that they did not die in vain. I believe our sorrow can make us a better country. I believe our righteous anger can be transformed into more justice and more peace. Weeping may endure for a night but I’m convinced joy comes in the morning.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I understand he only mentioned himself 45 times, must have been a slow day! and he really must not have said much.

Speaks at  a memorial service and only mentions himself 45 times? What a conceited moron. I guess he forgot who was being memorialized.

What in the hell are you talking about? I just read through the transcript twice. I must need new glasses. Please clear that up for me.

I picked a random paragraph from His speech here:

And that’s what I take away from the lives of these outstanding men. The pain we feel may not soon pass, but my faith tells me that they did not die in vain. I believe our sorrow can make us a better country. I believe our righteous anger can be transformed into more justice and more peace. Weeping may endure for a night but I’m convinced joy comes in the morning.

And you take that paragraph as speaking about himself ?

[Valkorado]

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/07/obama_hijacks_dallas_police_memorial_service.html

[G-Man]

How come they never talk about the white Jewish father who "had the talk" with his young teenage sons?  My father was an athlete who grew up on the lower east side of Manhattan.  At that time, majority of police officers were of a certain ethnicity which disliked Jews.  My father would get singled out by police during schoolyard basketball games and harassed about something that had nothing to do with him.  He was the only Jew on the court.  HIS father, told him when they (police) confront you for any reason, Yes Sir, No Sir, and everyone goes home.  My father taught me this and I taught my teenage son this, and reiterate it often.

Whether the cop is racist, sexist, hates certain religions, is new, is nervous, just had a fight with his wife, just recently lost a partner, whatever, ................  it's ALWAYS better to play their game because you/we can never win.  Yelling, name calling, running, just pisses them off.  

[Willow]

I read both speeches.  I'm not as deeply disgusted as some although I stand about as far from the perspective of Barrack Obama as I possibly could.  I do see that he politicized.  He's a politician.  How he views reality will impact how he speaks and what he says.  He did not directly blame the fallen officers or the Dallas Police Department for the killings but he did give validity and credence to an implied conflict between the police in general and the black community.  That was not proper at a memorial service.

I was impressed that both Barrack Obama and George Bush quoted from the Scripture although somewhat misapplied.  Barrack Obama knows more about the Christian Bible than I have given him credit for.

What the President did that was wrong was to point to an ongoing conflict between police and black people as the reason for the murders.  I heard on the news this morning that he was hosting a conference between black people and police to resolve differences.  By doing these things he validates the actions of the murderer.  Murderers should be treated as criminals and never as slightly extreme victims.

Sunday I walked out of church during the pastor's alleged sermon.  Taking a liberal bent he talked about the percentages of arrests, prison sentences, and death row residences of black versus white men.  Like so many he completely ignores that it may be because those convicted criminals lived in and and participated in a high crime area.  It really doesn't have as much to do with race as one might want to think.

So long as we spout statistics and see the populace as black and white we will have a race problem in America.  So long as we consider what color a person is rather than just seeing human beings we have a race problem.  So long as we elect a president because of his race and not disregarding his race we have a race problem.   People on both sides of the argument participate fully in contributing to the racial divide.

For what it's worth I am a racist.  I believe deeply that people of Choctaw genetics are obviously superior to those of the many inferior ethnic groups.  In the political spectrum it regularly occurs to me that anyone who disagrees with me is obviously stupid.  I tell you that so that you'll know when we argue and you think I'm intellectually impaired that even though I won't say it I am just as convinced of how stupid you are.

See there.  Doesn't my filter work excellently?