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Author Topic: Donald Trump Is Right About Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg  (Read 1327 times)
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« Reply #40 on: July 15, 2016, 01:39:16 PM »

This new PC stuff is getting a bit out of hand.
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Pete
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« Reply #41 on: July 15, 2016, 01:43:14 PM »

Thanks Skinhead/Alpha Dog for the help.
He could not refute the statement, so tried to deflect by minor name calling.
"Name calling" ? If describing your post as partisan is name calling I apologize . As for not refuting your statement, I believe I did. But here is her statement:
"On reflection, my recent remarks in response to press inquiries were ill-advised and I regret making them,” Ginsburg said in a statement. "Judges should avoid commenting on a candidate for public office. In the future I will be more circumspect."
How is that not an apology ? She said she was wrong . Is that not the definition of an apology ?
Apology accepted, apologies are better if not qualified, comes across as more sincere.

"On reflection, my recent remarks in response to press inquiries were ill-advised and I regret making them,” Ginsburg said in a statement. "Judges should avoid commenting on a candidate for public office. In the future I will be more circumspect."

There is no apology to the offended person(s) anywhere in those sentences, "ill-advised, regrets, comments" are not apologies, just comments, verbage and attempts at misdirection.

Try "I am sorry and I apologize to (insert name) for making the statements". See how easy that is.

Based on her words, action and past actions I suspect that she is NOT sorry she made the statements. Nor is she sorry that she did not apologize. Nor was her statement to deflect the heat effective.


I guess I qualified it because I didn't realize it was name calling. I meant it as an adjective .

That is the "minor" part, reference to, indirect, etc.
No big deal.
Have a  nice day.
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scooperhsd
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« Reply #42 on: July 15, 2016, 03:27:31 PM »

Ginsberg.............  did not apologize.
No liberal every apologizes they are just sorry they got caught or that you "mis-understood" .

What a crock only the headline apologized not the person or her statement.
And only a partisan would say something like that. How is this not an apology ?
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/07/15/us/politics/ruth-bader-ginsburg-donald-trump.html


I took the time to read the entire linked article.  I saw nothing I would call an apology.
 
You caused me to look up the definition of apology.  My use of the word is that it states a request for or implies a need for forgiveness.  The definition says it is simply a statement of being sorry or an expression of regret.  It was an apology.  I'll continue to use my application of the term personally.  It was not an apology I would have recognized.


I had the same thoughts as Carl but didn't want to be accused of playing word games but, having said that, I agree, she regrets the statement which to me, indicates she wishes she hadn't gotten caught.   She did not ask for forgiveness.    

Regardless, there will be no decisions made by SCOTUS where her thoughts won't be questioned from this point on.   I really don't wish to see her resign, Obama will only put in another younger Liberal Judge.  

Damn, has nobody here said something they wish they hadn't. She is outspoken. She shouldn't have said it. But I seriously doubt it's going to change one vote..........


Her vote in the election is her business, her's alone.

Her vote on any SCOTUS issues is our business.  


No need to worry about Obama nominating another Justice - The GOP Senate Mojority Leader is already not going to hold hearings on Obama's  replacement for Scalia  (this bastard ought to be impeached as well, for not doing his job).
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« Reply #43 on: July 15, 2016, 03:44:33 PM »


No need to worry about Obama nominating another Justice - The GOP Senate Mojority Leader is already not going to hold hearings on Obama's  replacement for Scalia  (this bastard ought to be impeached as well, for not doing his job).


You mean like Dingey Harry was for all the bills he never brought to the floor for vote?
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« Reply #44 on: July 15, 2016, 03:48:41 PM »

Ginsberg.............  did not apologize.
No liberal every apologizes they are just sorry they got caught or that you "mis-understood" .

What a crock only the headline apologized not the person or her statement.
And only a partisan would say something like that. How is this not an apology ?
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/07/15/us/politics/ruth-bader-ginsburg-donald-trump.html


I took the time to read the entire linked article.  I saw nothing I would call an apology.
 
You caused me to look up the definition of apology.  My use of the word is that it states a request for or implies a need for forgiveness.  The definition says it is simply a statement of being sorry or an expression of regret.  It was an apology.  I'll continue to use my application of the term personally.  It was not an apology I would have recognized.
I didn't look it up but I appreciate that you did. I always thought an apology was simply saying you were sorry for doing something wrong. Your definition of asking for forgiveness is more. Maybe she should have done that also. I don't know, but I doubt it would have any difference in the majority here.


She said she "regrets" making the comments.  Of course she does.  She got in hot water even in liberal circles.

Did she say "I'm Sorry", or "I apologize to.......".  No, she did not.

She did not say she was sorry.  Regrets, yes.  Apology, no.
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« Reply #45 on: July 15, 2016, 06:12:16 PM »

    Her apology is worthless. That's closing the door after the horse has walked out, not very effective. Only two possibilities, she knew exactly what she was doing and it was a deliberate act or her mental capacity and judgement are diminished to the point she should step down.
Damn, has nobody here said something they wish they hadn't. She is outspoken. She shouldn't have said it. But I seriously doubt it's going to change one vote in the upcoming election.

As far as I know, no one here is a sitting Supreme Court Justice. My dad taught me from a very early age that our words matter and once spoken cannot be taken back. You can apologize but you can't unsay the words. I could accept her apology but she can't unsay the words and the rules she broke were her own, not mine. The position she holds comes with great privilege and with that comes great responsibility including restraint and control. I doubt it will change one vote either but that's not the issue, is it?
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« Reply #46 on: July 15, 2016, 06:18:45 PM »

    Her apology is worthless. That's closing the door after the horse has walked out, not very effective. Only two possibilities, she knew exactly what she was doing and it was a deliberate act or her mental capacity and judgement are diminished to the point she should step down.
Damn, has nobody here said something they wish they hadn't. She is outspoken. She shouldn't have said it. But I seriously doubt it's going to change one vote in the upcoming election.

As far as I know, no one here is a sitting Supreme Court Justice. My dad taught me from a very early age that our words matter and once spoken cannot be taken back. You can apologize but you can't unsay the words. I could accept her apology but she can't unsay the words and the rules she broke were her own, not mine. The position she holds comes with great privilege and with that comes great responsibility including restraint and control. I doubt it will change one vote either but that's not the issue, is it?
I agree. It was a stupid thing to do.
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