Mike Pence ?

[The emperor has no clothes]

I'm kind of surprised. But maybe he feels it will help with the "Evangelical vote".

[Pete]

I would actually expect it to make no difference.

And I suspect that it does not matter who Hillary picks either.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I would actually expect it to make no difference.

And I suspect that it does not matter who Hillary picks either.

I think you are probably right.

[Oss]

He should have swallowed his bile and picked Kasich

Since he is the only one who could work both sides of the aIsle

The man is not impressing me as the campaign continues with any
ability to heal.... the one thing he needs to appear to do to win

and we need someone other than a democrat to win this time IMHO of course

[Serk]

The pick to me is secondary...

The logo though... That logo.... No... just no...

It took almost two hours for The Internet to turn this:



into this:

[The emperor has no clothes]

He should have swallowed his bile and picked Kasich

Since he is the only one who could work both sides of the aIsle

The man is not impressing me as the campaign continues with any
ability to heal.... the one thing he needs to appear to do to win

and we need someone other than a democrat to win this time IMHO of course

There ain't no way in hell Kasich wants to associate himself with the Donald.

[The emperor has no clothes]

The pick to me is secondary...

The logo though... That logo.... No... just no...

It took almost two hours for The Internet to turn this:



into this:

OMG ! 

[Oss]

They said that about LBJ AND JFK also

[The emperor has no clothes]

They said that about LBJ AND JFK also

Well yes, but that was JFK not liking LBJ. But picking him anyway for strategic reasons. I think for Kasich the stench is more than he is willing to bear. I have no doubt Trump would have picked him if he had have knelt and kissed the ring.

[Romeo]

Too nad Pence isnt at the top of the ticket. Pence / Gingrich would have been great.

[Gavin_Sons]

Pence is a good guy, have known him for years. He is from Columbus

[mike72903]

I never heard of him. Like I said here a few weeks ago, Trump will never get a serious politician who wants a future for himself to be his VP pick.  It's got to be a has been, a never was or some desperate wannabe. 

[Valkorado]

I never heard of him. Like I said here a few weeks ago, Trump will never get a serious politician who wants a future for himself to be his VP pick.  It's got to be a has been, a never was or some desperate wannabe. 

CI, after you crawl out from under your rock take a look at Indiana's state budget, surplus, tax and employment rates and infrastructure and education ratings.  And who their Governor is.

[f6john]

I never heard of him. Like I said here a few weeks ago, Trump will never get a serious politician who wants a future for himself to be his VP pick.  It's got to be a has been, a never was or some desperate wannabe. 

A serious politician? I'm sick of them as should be a majority of Americans. Mitch McConnell is a serious politician that I have voted for but has continued to disappoint. He has been just a little better than his opponents. You know Hillary is the poster girl of a serious politician, a liar, morally corrupt, an insider that can break the law and get away it. She either learned from the best, her husband, or maybe she taught Bill all he knows.

The last thing America needs right now is a "serious politician" as the VP or the President.

[solo1]

I also disagree with CL's blanket statement.  Pence has been a good governor and he's not afraid to tackle the PC crowd, the unions, and 'untouchable' liberal agendas. .  

Probably the lame stream liberal press will catch him spelling potato wrong and jump on his ass like they did Dan Quayle.  They gotta come up with something.

He might even be good enough to slow down Trump's tendency to 'engage mouth before putting brain in gear"

[doubletee]

Pence is a good guy, have known him for years. He is from Columbus

I don't know him personally, but I can't stand his politics. To think he may be one step away from the highest office in the land is really disturbing to me.

[Alpha Dog]

Here in the midwest where Republican Governors have made a huge impact on any and all success, the best story is Indiana and it is well known. I am over there a bunch and good things are happening.  A huge surprise for the past two months is to see what is going on along the State Route 30, 6, and 20 corridors. Ohio were I live is doing O K, but in the past year Kasich has disappeared and no one knows what the heck is going on with him.  You never see or hear hide nor hair from him and for this spoiled SOB, fine by me.  He can stay home in Columbus and sulk and eat more pancakes.  Heard Mike Pence accept the nomination today.  Very impressive speech, straight forward and to the point.  Trump has several really good choices and I think Mike Pence is outstanding and represents the old rust belt extremely well.

[f6john]

Pence is a good guy, have known him for years. He is from Columbus

I don't know him personally, but I can't stand his politics. To think he may be one step away from the highest office in the land is really disturbing to me.

   You have excellent taste in avatars so your opinion is valuable. What is it that you can't stand about his politics?

[Willow]

It's almost humorous to see committed liberals comment on what won't work for conservatives or to have committed conservatives express what won't work for liberals.

The country is basically divided generally into three groups of voters.  The committed liberals and committed conservatives are not going to change sides no matter what.  It's that uncommitted minority in the middle that determines the outcomes of national elections.

There are another couple of groups and those may be the ones tending to conservative or liberal bents that may or may not show up to vote.  One of those groups was what cost the Republican candidate the past presidential election.

Mike Pence may very well help with the conservative evangelical vote.  One of the problems with Trump has been his obvious lack of acceptance among that group.  Mike Pence will need to convincingly demonstrate that he is an active member of the team.  Donald Trump will need to effectively sell that concept.      

[mike72903]

quote mr. Pence "Despite the hysteria from the political class and the media class, smoking doesn't kill". WTH?  He denies evolution, thinks creationism should be taught in schools, doesn't believe most scientists agree climate change is happening.  two possibilities to explain those views.  1. He's in the pocket of big business or 2. He's nuts or so egotistical that he believes because he thinks something, it absolutely true.
I could never support a candidate so out of touch with reality of Science.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I also disagree with CL's blanket statement.  Pence has been a good governor and he's not afraid to tackle the PC crowd, the unions, and 'untouchable' liberal agendas. .  

Probably the lame stream liberal press will catch him spelling potato wrong and jump on his ass like they did Dan Quayle.  They gotta come up with something.

He might even be good enough to slow down Trump's tendency to 'engage mouth before putting brain in gear"

Quayle had numerous blunders in addition to the "potatoe incident". As I remember they came close to dumping him for Bush's reelection bid.

[Willow]

quote mr. Pence "Despite the hysteria from the political class and the media class, smoking doesn't kill". WTH?  He denies evolution, thinks creationism should be taught in schools, doesn't believe most scientists agree climate change is happening.  two possibilities to explain those views.  1. He's in the pocket of big business or 2. He's nuts or so egotistical that he believes because he thinks something, it absolutely true.
I could never support a candidate so out of touch with reality of Science.

LOL!  Sounds like my kind of guy.  I think anyone who believes in evolution as it is taught has to be out of touch with his logical skills.  I believe that creationism should be taught in schools as one explanation of how things came to be.  It make more sense than something came from nothing.  I believe climate changes takes place, but to accept that it is caused by human beings one has to disconnect with a rather large chunk of evidence.  I believe most true scientists would agree with me.  I do think everything I believe is true.  If I thought any of it were not true I would change my mind.  Isn't that what believe means?

I'm going to accept outright that CI_borg and lots of other people awash in liberalism will not vote for Mike Pence.  That does nothing but improve my respect for him.

     

[Chrisj CMA]

quote mr. Pence "Despite the hysteria from the political class and the media class, smoking doesn't kill". WTH?  He denies evolution, thinks creationism should be taught in schools, doesn't believe most scientists agree climate change is happening.  two possibilities to explain those views.  1. He's in the pocket of big business or 2. He's nuts or so egotistical that he believes because he thinks something, it absolutely true.
I could never support a candidate so out of touch with reality of Science.

LOL!  Sounds like my kind of guy.  I think anyone who believes in evolution as it is taught has to be out of touch with his logical skills.  I believe that creationism should be taught in schools as one explanation of how things came to be.  It make more sense than something came from nothing.  I believe climate changes takes place, but to accept that it is caused by human beings one has to disconnect with a rather large chunk of evidence.  I believe most true scientists would agree with me.  I do think everything I believe is true.  If I thought any of it were not true I would change my mind.  Isn't that what believe means?

I'm going to accept outright that CI_borg and lots of other people awash in liberalism will not vote for Mike Pence.  That does nothing but improve my respect for him.

     

What Willow Said!

[f6john]

quote mr. Pence "Despite the hysteria from the political class and the media class, smoking doesn't kill". WTH?  He denies evolution, thinks creationism should be taught in schools, doesn't believe most scientists agree climate change is happening.  two possibilities to explain those views.  1. He's in the pocket of big business or 2. He's nuts or so egotistical that he believes because he thinks something, it absolutely true.
I could never support a candidate so out of touch with reality of Science.

    Well,  then you will have the option of voting for Hillary. She has a long record and I suspect you are are well aware of what she believes and her level of integrity. I actually believe you could apply both possibilities, 1 and 2 to Hilliary as a matter of fact I'm sure of it!

[Oss]

Ci
There is a difference between acknowledging that climate change is happening, has always happened and will continue to happen and the polar statement that it is all mankind's fault

Break it down for us mortals will you

There is "normal" in an era, kind of way solar induced change
ie glaciers, ice ages and 7 and longer year solar cycles *sunspot
Volcanic climate change
Extraterrestrial climate change (asteroid strikes and mass extinction events)

I think all of the candidates, if pushed will admit that mankind by polluting the planet has made changes and these are terrible
have you seen the pics Strider used to post of Angola with refuse everywhere and no sewage treatment?
Look in the oceans at thousands of square miles of garbage floating around   Would love to see the UN declare war on that and clean it up (dont hold your breath)

There is maybe the example of the ozone hole, smaller since ban of certain flourocarbons

The notion however that mankind is responsible for global warming is not close to universal and IMHO is snake oil by those with an agenda to ban coal and bring down the ability of the USA to compete in the global economy

One icelandic eruption did more to put gasses in the atmosphere than all cars and coal burned this century  Volcanic action is CONSTANT the eruptions are explosive and so far unpredictable

So we ban volcanic eruption how exactly?

[solo1]

quote mr. Pence "Despite the hysteria from the political class and the media class, smoking doesn't kill". WTH?  He denies evolution, thinks creationism should be taught in schools, doesn't believe most scientists agree climate change is happening.  two possibilities to explain those views.  1. He's in the pocket of big business or 2. He's nuts or so egotistical that he believes because he thinks something, it absolutely true.
I could never support a candidate so out of touch with reality of Science.

LOL!  Sounds like my kind of guy.  I think anyone who believes in evolution as it is taught has to be out of touch with his logical skills.  I believe that creationism should be taught in schools as one explanation of how things came to be.  It make more sense than something came from nothing.  I believe climate changes takes place, but to accept that it is caused by human beings one has to disconnect with a rather large chunk of evidence.  I believe most true scientists would agree with me.  I do think everything I believe is true.  If I thought any of it were not true I would change my mind.  Isn't that what believe means?

I'm going to accept outright that CI_borg and lots of other people awash in liberalism will not vote for Mike Pence.  That does nothing but improve my respect for him.

     

I could not have said it better.  Thanks Carl.

[solo1]

You know, Meathead,  Quayle misspelling  a word was small potatos compared to a Commander-In-Chief  who pronounced on National television "Navy Corpseman"

THAT showed total ignorance of an honored specialty MOS in the Armed Forces.

[MAD6Gun]

quote mr. Pence "Despite the hysteria from the political class and the media class, smoking doesn't kill". WTH?  He denies evolution, thinks creationism should be taught in schools, doesn't believe most scientists agree climate change is happening.  two possibilities to explain those views.  1. He's in the pocket of big business or 2. He's nuts or so egotistical that he believes because he thinks something, it absolutely true.
I could never support a candidate so out of touch with reality of Science.

 You don't live here borg. Indiana is one of few states that are doing well both financially and socially  . IMHO Pence has done well for indiana as well as the last governor Mitch Danials. Sure they all have there faults what politician doesnt. Your state of Arkansas gave us a sexual deviant Bill Clinton and his lying wife Hilary. Thanks for that btw. Your not going to vote for him anyway so why do you care what the GOP does.  Pence has the same views most christains do. Get over it.......

[Cracker Jack]

You know, Meathead,  Quayle misspelling  a word was small potatos compared to a Commander-In-Chief  who pronounced on National television "Navy Corpseman"

THAT showed total ignorance of an honored specialty MOS in the Armed Forces.

And small potatoes compared to a presidential candidate who had been to 57 states with three more to go or something along those lines.

[solo1]

"If you like your doctor, you can keep him"

[mike72903]

My oft repeated statement that I am not a liberal falls on deaf ears alas. I don't know where it's written that because I believe in Physics and the scientific method instead of stories written thousand of years ago by humans just recently gathering into tribes and living on the edge of extinction mired in ignorance and superstition, makes me a liberal.  Nor does wanting intelligent and experienced people who apply logic and reasoning to their actions instead of people I believe will reason with emotion and appeal to emotion.  Going to build a wall and make Mexico pay for it? Come on! I do wish Biden had run but he didnt so that leaves us with what we have.  Mrs. Clinton has flaws but I still prefer her over the other choice.  Like Ruth Bader Ginsburg I regret saying anything.   I've done a good job the last couple of weeks avoiding political topics. Gotta get better at it.   No point to it. We are from different tribes.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Dang, you Indiana boys are a little sensitive. I was just pointing out that there were a series of verbal blunders Quayle made. It wasn't just the potato miscue.  

[The emperor has no clothes]

My oft repeated statement that I am not a liberal falls on deaf ears alas. I don't know where it's written that because I believe in Physics and the scientific method instead of stories written thousand of years ago by humans just recently gathering into tribes and living on the edge of extinction mired in ignorance and superstition, makes me a liberal.  Nor does wanting intelligent and experienced people who apply logic and reasoning to their actions instead of people I believe will reason with emotion and appeal to emotion.  Going to build a wall and make Mexico pay for it? Come on! I do wish Biden had run but he didnt so that leaves us with what we have.  Mrs. Clinton has flaws but I still prefer her over the other choice.  Like Ruth Bader Ginsburg I regret saying anything.   I've done a good job the last couple of weeks avoiding political topics. Gotta get better at it.   No point to it. We are from different tribes.

If you don't believe Obama is a Muslim born in Kenya who is secretly plotting a third term you are a Liberal.

[solo1]

Yep, and I was pointing out the same for the Chicago (I won't say boy, Not PC, you know) person who wasn't the VP but the Prez.

Thank you for calling me an 88 year old "Boy" 

[The emperor has no clothes]

Yep, and I was pointing out the same for the Chicago (I won't say boy, Not PC, you know) person who wasn't the VP but the Prez.

Thank you for calling me an 88 year old "Boy"  

We are all boys deep down inside   I hope you didn't think I was being condescending.

[The emperor has no clothes]

quote mr. Pence "Despite the hysteria from the political class and the media class, smoking doesn't kill". WTH?  He denies evolution, thinks creationism should be taught in schools, doesn't believe most scientists agree climate change is happening.  two possibilities to explain those views.  1. He's in the pocket of big business or 2. He's nuts or so egotistical that he believes because he thinks something, it absolutely true.
I could never support a candidate so out of touch with reality of Science.

LOL!  Sounds like my kind of guy.  I think anyone who believes in evolution as it is taught has to be out of touch with his logical skills.  I believe that creationism should be taught in schools as one explanation of how things came to be.  It make more sense than something came from nothing.  I believe climate changes takes place, but to accept that it is caused by human beings one has to disconnect with a rather large chunk of evidence.  I believe most true scientists would agree with me.  I do think everything I believe is true.  If I thought any of it were not true I would change my mind.  Isn't that what believe means?

I'm going to accept outright that CI_borg and lots of other people awash in liberalism will not vote for Mike Pence.  That does nothing but improve my respect for him.

     

"Awash in liberalism" You make it sound so dirty. 

[Rams]

I have family that live in Indiana, born again Liberals (as a matter of fact).   Even they think Gov. Pence has done an outstanding job since he was elected.   I don't know the man and I still think Hilary will win the election unless she chooses a Republican as her VP.    

The groups that will be voting for her will not tolerate the idea of a "social agenda" change.   Way too much "free stuff" at stake.   I'm not a Trump fan but the snake in the grass he's running against will only do what gains her more power and money.   Both she and her spouse have proven that time after time.   A good example would be the "Clinton Foundation".   One huge lobbying corporation selling it's influence to whomever can afford it for billions......................

And yet, some believe we need more of that.

[solo1]

No meathead, I didn't  take it that way, just in good humor.

[Robert]

LOL!  Sounds like my kind of guy.  I think anyone who believes in evolution as it is taught has to be out of touch with his logical skills.  I believe that creationism should be taught in schools as one explanation of how things came to be.  It make more sense than something came from nothing.  I believe climate changes takes place, but to accept that it is caused by human beings one has to disconnect with a rather large chunk of evidence.  I believe most true scientists would agree with me.  I do think everything I believe is true.  If I thought any of it were not true I would change my mind.  Isn't that what believe means?

I'm going to accept outright that CI_borg and lots of other people awash in liberalism will not vote for Mike Pence.  That does nothing but improve my respect for him.

     

Extremely well said and I so agree and I would have to add I am as sure of the things that Carl has written as science is of what they have extrapolated. What makes you think CI Borg that the ones in office now are not going by emotion?

http://www.christianpost.com/news/world-renowned-scientist-finds-proof-god-created-the-universe-165511/

Dr. Michio Kaku, a theoretical physicist and co-founder of the highly regarded String Field Theory, has created a stir in the scientific community by saying he believes there is evidence that the universe was created by a higher intelligence and not by accident.

"I have concluded that we are in a world made by rules created by an intelligence," the scientist said in an an article published in the Geophilosophical Association of Anthropological and Cultural Studies, according to ForcesMente. "Believe me, everything that we call chance today won't make sense anymore. To me it is clear that we exist in a plan which is governed by rules that were created, shaped by a universal intelligence and not by chance."

                 

[The emperor has no clothes]

No meathead, I didn't  take it that way, just in good humor.