|
Pale Rider
|
 |
« on: August 05, 2016, 07:45:09 AM » |
|
We are seeing it before our very eyes.......the absolute collapse of the Trump campaign. I am sad to see this happen, but Joe Public is finally waking up and understanding that vitriol and bully-type behavior is unacceptable from anyone, let alone a candidate for the POTUS. I can honestly see him withdrawing from the race citing that it is everyone else's fault but his own.
Now that he is wounded and limping, the vultures are piling on, including those from his own party. I am not thinking that recovery is possible, but there is a lot of time between now and November. What are the provisions if does remove himself from the race?
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Serk
|
 |
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2016, 07:52:08 AM » |
|
By the RNC bylaws, basically the RNC would choose a replacement: (a) The Republican National Committee is hereby authorized and empowered to fill any and all vacancies which may occur by reason of death, declination or otherwise of the Republican candidate for president of the United States or the Republican candidate for vice president of the United States, as nominated by the national convention, or the Republican National Committee may reconvene the national convention for the purpose of filling any such vacancies.
(b) In voting under this rule, the Republican National Committee members representing any state shall be entitled to cast the same number of votes as said state was entitled to cast at the national convention.
(c) In the event that the members of the Republican National Committee from any state shall not be in agreement in the casting of votes hereunder, the votes of such state shall be divided equally, including fractional votes, among the members of the Republican National Committee present or voting by proxy.
(d) No candidate shall be chosen to fill any such vacancy except upon receiving a majority of the votes entitled to be cast in the election.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Never ask a geek 'Why?',just nod your head and slowly back away...  IBA# 22107 VRCC# 7976 VRCCDS# 226 1998 Valkyrie Standard 2008 Gold Wing Taxation is theft. μολὼν λαβέ
|
|
|
Valkorado
Member
    
Posts: 10514
VRCC DS 0242
Gunnison, Colorado (7,703') Here there be twisties.
|
 |
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2016, 08:01:40 AM » |
|
Quote from Pale Rider: "...but Joe Public is finally waking up and understanding that vitriol and bully-type behavior is unacceptable from anyone, let alone a candidate for the POTUS". Yeah, and it's great to see that liberals and the mainstream media are above the fray, and have risen above vitriol.  Give me a break!
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Have you ever noticed when you're feeling really good, there's always a pigeon that'll come sh!t on your hood? - John Prine 97 Tourer "Silver Bullet" 01 Interstate "Ruby" 
|
|
|
Rams
Member
    
Posts: 16684
So many colors to choose from yet so few stand out
Covington, TN
|
 |
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2016, 08:05:42 AM » |
|
While no candidate is a perfect fit IMHO, this could be the best way to keep Hillary out of the Oval Office. I have real doubts that most can beat her. All I can really say is that I won't be voting for the snake the Dems have decided to support. If I haven't made my position clear enough, just ask. 
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
VRCC# 29981 Learning the majority of life's lessons the hard way.
Every trip is an adventure, enjoy it while it lasts.
|
|
|
Wizzard
Member
    
Posts: 4043
Bald River Falls
Valparaiso IN
|
 |
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2016, 08:11:08 AM » |
|
Like I have said before,, this election is like a bucket of horse turds and I have to pick the cleanest one. 
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
 VRCC # 24157
|
|
|
Rams
Member
    
Posts: 16684
So many colors to choose from yet so few stand out
Covington, TN
|
 |
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2016, 08:13:47 AM » |
|
Like I have said before,, this election is like a bucket of horse turds and I have to pick the cleanest one.  An analogy worthy of quoting, hope you don't mind if I use it on another forum?
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
VRCC# 29981 Learning the majority of life's lessons the hard way.
Every trip is an adventure, enjoy it while it lasts.
|
|
|
|
Serk
|
 |
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2016, 08:27:11 AM » |
|
Like I have said before,, this election is like a bucket of horse turds and I have to pick the cleanest one.  An analogy worthy of quoting, hope you don't mind if I use it on another forum? This election is like trying to choose which STD is the best one to get...
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Never ask a geek 'Why?',just nod your head and slowly back away...  IBA# 22107 VRCC# 7976 VRCCDS# 226 1998 Valkyrie Standard 2008 Gold Wing Taxation is theft. μολὼν λαβέ
|
|
|
|
Robert
|
 |
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2016, 08:30:01 AM » |
|
I AM NOT BACKING DOWN ON TRUMP AND I DON'T THINK THE PUBLIC IS EITHER. Now that we got that straight.
What I will also agree on is the party that didn't want Trump is telling him to get out. I cannot imagine how hard it is to do what Trump has accomplished. He has gone against every ego and naysayer and done what many have deemed impossible. I hope in a time when all the so called experts are using hammers he has the strength courage and fortitude to continue on. The learning curve must be tremendously high and this presents its own problems. Not to mention having to have stuff dictated to you that you must accept on the point of a sword. Hes not used to having to be well a politician and accepting the things.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
“Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don’t have time for all that.”
|
|
|
|
RGM
|
 |
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2016, 08:49:09 AM » |
|
Jeopardy: for $200 under politics this man lost to the first US woman President.
This is why he will quit, his ego couldn't stand losing to a woman and become an answer to a Jeopardy question.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Valkorado
Member
    
Posts: 10514
VRCC DS 0242
Gunnison, Colorado (7,703') Here there be twisties.
|
 |
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2016, 08:57:58 AM » |
|
Fixed that for a more realistic scenario.
Jeopardy: for $200 under politics this man lost to the first US woman President, just before the total collapse of the US economy.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Have you ever noticed when you're feeling really good, there's always a pigeon that'll come sh!t on your hood? - John Prine 97 Tourer "Silver Bullet" 01 Interstate "Ruby" 
|
|
|
|
sleepngbear
|
 |
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2016, 09:02:08 AM » |
|
What the hell am I missing here? What meltdown? All I see is the media typically latching onto anything and everything they can find to bring down another demonic Republican candidate. Because as everyone knows by now, Hillary is vastly superior and infinitely more qualified. I mean, Obama said so, so she must be, even though the last time he said she wasn't.
Pardon me now while I excuse myself before I puke all over my good office clothes. This is by far the most disgusting campaign and blatant example of media bias I have ever seen in all my years on this craphole of a planet.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
The emperor has no clothes
|
 |
« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2016, 09:05:05 AM » |
|
What the hell am I missing here? What meltdown? All I see is the media typically latching onto anything and everything they can find to bring down another demonic Republican candidate. Because as everyone knows by now, Hillary is vastly superior and infinitely more qualified. I mean, Obama said so, so she must be, even though the last time he said she wasn't.
Pardon me now while I excuse myself before I puke all over my good office clothes. This is by far the most disgusting campaign and blatant example of media bias I have ever seen in all my years on this craphole of a planet.
Craphole of a planet ?  Are there others you prefer ?
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
sleepngbear
|
 |
« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2016, 09:17:28 AM » |
|
What the hell am I missing here? What meltdown? All I see is the media typically latching onto anything and everything they can find to bring down another demonic Republican candidate. Because as everyone knows by now, Hillary is vastly superior and infinitely more qualified. I mean, Obama said so, so she must be, even though the last time he said she wasn't.
Pardon me now while I excuse myself before I puke all over my good office clothes. This is by far the most disgusting campaign and blatant example of media bias I have ever seen in all my years on this craphole of a planet.
Craphole of a planet ?  Are there others you prefer ? If that's all you got out of that, so be it, I guess. But yeah, since you asked. If Hillary gets elected, I'd pretty much prefer being jettisoned to the surface of Mercury. Besides the mess she would continue to make of this country and possibly the world, that would totally destroy what little faith I have left in humanity.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
The emperor has no clothes
|
 |
« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2016, 09:21:10 AM » |
|
What the hell am I missing here? What meltdown? All I see is the media typically latching onto anything and everything they can find to bring down another demonic Republican candidate. Because as everyone knows by now, Hillary is vastly superior and infinitely more qualified. I mean, Obama said so, so she must be, even though the last time he said she wasn't.
Pardon me now while I excuse myself before I puke all over my good office clothes. This is by far the most disgusting campaign and blatant example of media bias I have ever seen in all my years on this craphole of a planet.
Craphole of a planet ?  Are there others you prefer ? If that's all you got out of that, so be it, I guess. But yeah, since you asked. If Hillary gets elected, I'd pretty much prefer being jettisoned to the surface of Mercury. Besides the mess she would continue to make of this country and possibly the world, that would totally destroy what little faith I have left in humanity. OMG !  I don't know if NASA has any scheduled trips to Mercury. Maybe Jupiter or Uranus would be to your liking ?
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Wizzard
Member
    
Posts: 4043
Bald River Falls
Valparaiso IN
|
 |
« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2016, 09:24:22 AM » |
|
Uranus needs to be wiped out completely 
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
 VRCC # 24157
|
|
|
|
The emperor has no clothes
|
 |
« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2016, 09:30:04 AM » |
|
Uranus needs to be wiped out completely  Yes it does. 
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Robert
|
 |
« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2016, 09:40:29 AM » |
|
I think the original post is the liberals wish list and not based in reality. Of course this may because the backbone to see a project through may not be something they posses. I will say this that 5 percent of swing voters could decide this election. Are you really so confidant that they could not be swayed to vote for Trump within the next few months?
|
|
|
|
« Last Edit: August 05, 2016, 09:42:27 AM by Robert »
|
Logged
|
“Some people see things that are and ask, Why? Some people dream of things that never were and ask, Why not? Some people have to go to work and don’t have time for all that.”
|
|
|
|
sleepngbear
|
 |
« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2016, 09:48:19 AM » |
|
Uranus needs to be wiped out completely  Yes it does.  Leave my anus out of this!
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Rams
Member
    
Posts: 16684
So many colors to choose from yet so few stand out
Covington, TN
|
 |
« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2016, 10:52:20 AM » |
|
Hillary is vastly superior and infinitely more qualified. Personally, it's not hard for me to say that she should be the most qualified to be POTUS based on the other candidate's resumes. Trump would be a second place finisher if that was the primary issue. But, that's not the primary issue. Obama proved that being qualified isn't a necessity to get elected. Where Hillary falls well short of Trump is in ethics, trustworthiness and morals. She's lied, cheated, conned and stolen and all of those things have been proven. She's been fired for falsifying documents by her own folks previously. Don't take me as being a fan of Trump, I'm not but, Hillary lacks the integrity to be POTUS. I'm amazed the Dems are supporting her. That in itself says something to me.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
VRCC# 29981 Learning the majority of life's lessons the hard way.
Every trip is an adventure, enjoy it while it lasts.
|
|
|
|
solo1
|
 |
« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2016, 12:57:23 PM » |
|
So the argument goes that it's a more rational act for the liberals to vote for Clinton than it is for the conservatives to vote for Trump. IMHO, I think that we are all nuts!!!!!! 
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
sleepngbear
|
 |
« Reply #20 on: August 05, 2016, 01:11:30 PM » |
|
So the argument goes that it's a more rational act for the liberals to vote for Clinton than it is for the conservatives to vote for Trump. IMHO, I think that we are all nuts!!!!!!  And the idiot conservatives can't seem to grasp the folly in that. Makes me ashamed to say I'm Republican. If Trump is such a bad candidate, then they should have put their weight behind whoever they thought was a good candidate. If the RNC had expended half the effort they've spent in denigrating Trump after his nomination on a better candidate during the primaries, they wouldn't be in this pickle. It just further proves two points: 1, voters are pissed off at the status quo of the present establishment and whoever they put forth as their candidate; and 2, the RNC is almost as out of touch with the sentiment of the voters as the DNC.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
The emperor has no clothes
|
 |
« Reply #21 on: August 05, 2016, 01:14:17 PM » |
|
So the argument goes that it's a more rational act for the liberals to vote for Clinton than it is for the conservatives to vote for Trump. IMHO, I think that we are all nuts!!!!!!  And the idiot conservatives can't seem to grasp the folly in that. Makes me ashamed to say I'm Republican. If Trump is such a bad candidate, then they should have put their weight behind whoever they thought was a good candidate. If the RNC had expended half the effort they've spent in denigrating Trump after his nomination on a better candidate during the primaries, they wouldn't be in this pickle. It just further proves two points: 1, voters are pissed off at the status quo of the present establishment and whoever they put forth as their candidate; and 2, the RNC is almost as out of touch with the sentiment of the voters as the DNC. Hey ! We are finally in agreement 
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Jess from VA
|
 |
« Reply #22 on: August 05, 2016, 02:04:54 PM » |
|
The epic Trump meltdown! ' According to the fully corrupt mainstream media, this will be an ongoing meltdown, all day every day, until the election (and probably for some time thereafter).
They should be fully ignored (or hung).
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Moonshot_1
|
 |
« Reply #23 on: August 05, 2016, 02:22:39 PM » |
|
Seems like all the pundits, media, establishment political types, are doing their best to get Mr. Trump in line. At least their perception of "in line". Frankly I like the crass, egotistical, winning spirit, entrepreneurial, bold kind of guy. I don't find him perfect. I do find him and his perspective on things refreshing in today's politics.
It is Trump being Trump that will win him the election. Nothing less will do.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Mike Luken
Cherokee, Ia. Former Iowa Patriot Guard Ride Captain
|
|
|
|
mike72903
Guest
|
 |
« Reply #24 on: August 05, 2016, 02:39:46 PM » |
|
His candidacy would be funny if it wasn't so serious  Even though I don't think he has a chance, it is very disturbing to me about what has happened to the leadership of a supposedly serious political party and how they lost control. I have an opinion about that that goes back to the Republican revolution started with the "Contract with America" which under the leadership of Newt Gingrich, radically changed Congress from a great deliberative body to one focused on raising money and PAC's. Raising money became the only focus and to do so they preyed on mankinds basest fears, preaching lies, doom and distruction. Large numbers of people grew so disaffected and upset they lost the ability to reason effectively. It's the typical result of emotional manipulation and thinking. My hope is that if Mrs. Clinton is elected she will follow through on her pledge to introduce a constitutional amendment to rein in the out of control money raising therefore offsetting some really bad Supreme Court decisions that have made Corporations "people" among others.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
solo1
|
 |
« Reply #25 on: August 05, 2016, 02:53:06 PM » |
|
You know, I don't appreciate the poster here calling Trump people idiots. There is absolutely no call for that.
We can agree to disagree. You will have to admit that the Hilary's record is not exactly stellar but I won't call you an idiot for wanting to see her get the presidency.
I repeat. We are all NUTS, no matter which side. You note , I said ALL. It's hard to believe that we have only these two choices.
|
|
|
|
« Last Edit: August 05, 2016, 03:00:12 PM by solo1 »
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Gavin_Sons
Member
    
Posts: 7109
VRCC# 32796
columbus indiana
|
 |
« Reply #26 on: August 05, 2016, 03:18:24 PM » |
|
His candidacy would be funny if it wasn't so serious  Even though I don't think he has a chance, it is very disturbing to me about what has happened to the leadership of a supposedly serious political party and how they lost control. I have an opinion about that that goes back to the Republican revolution started with the "Contract with America" which under the leadership of Newt Gingrich, radically changed Congress from a great deliberative body to one focused on raising money and PAC's. Raising money became the only focus and to do so they preyed on mankinds basest fears, preaching lies, doom and distruction. Large numbers of people grew so disaffected and upset they lost the ability to reason effectively. It's the typical result of emotional manipulation and thinking. My hope is that if Mrs. Clinton is elected she will follow through on her pledge to introduce a constitutional amendment to rein in the out of control money raising therefore offsetting some really bad Supreme Court decisions that have made Corporations "people" among others. Hummm, we conservatives feel the same way about Hillary being the destruction of the US? My hope is that Hillary falls and hits her head again, then maybe she will forget what she is doing and go crawl in a hole for the rest of her days. Seemed to work to get out of trouble the first time.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
The emperor has no clothes
|
 |
« Reply #27 on: August 05, 2016, 03:39:08 PM » |
|
You know, I don't appreciate the poster here calling Trump people idiots. There is absolutely no call for that.
We can agree to disagree. You will have to admit that the Hilary's record is not exactly stellar but I won't call you an idiot for wanting to see her get the presidency.
I repeat. We are all NUTS, no matter which side. You note , I said ALL. It's hard to believe that we have only these two choices.
Are you referring to this post ? So the argument goes that it's a more rational act for the liberals to vote for Clinton than it is for the conservatives to vote for Trump. IMHO, I think that we are all nuts!!!!!!  And the idiot conservatives can't seem to grasp the folly in that. Makes me ashamed to say I'm Republican. If Trump is such a bad candidate, then they should have put their weight behind whoever they thought was a good candidate. If the RNC had expended half the effort they've spent in denigrating Trump after his nomination on a better candidate during the primaries, they wouldn't be in this pickle. It just further proves two points: 1, voters are pissed off at the status quo of the present establishment and whoever they put forth as their candidate; and 2, the RNC is almost as out of touch with the sentiment of the voters as the DNC. If so, I took it differently. I don't think he was referring to Trump supporters but to his FELLOW conservatives. I could be wrong but I think he was pointing out the folly of the RNC in general.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
mike72903
Guest
|
 |
« Reply #28 on: August 05, 2016, 03:53:53 PM » |
|
Thanks Rob for pointing out the post he was referring to. I was about to respond since it was just after mine and I certainly didn't call anyone an idiot.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
baldo
Member
    
Posts: 6961
Youbetcha
Cape Cod, MA
|
 |
« Reply #29 on: August 05, 2016, 03:57:09 PM » |
|
You know, I don't appreciate the poster here calling Trump people idiots. There is absolutely no call for that.
We can agree to disagree. You will have to admit that the Hilary's record is not exactly stellar but I won't call you an idiot for wanting to see her get the presidency.
I repeat. We are all NUTS, no matter which side. You note , I said ALL. It's hard to believe that we have only these two choices.
Are you referring to this post ? So the argument goes that it's a more rational act for the liberals to vote for Clinton than it is for the conservatives to vote for Trump. IMHO, I think that we are all nuts!!!!!!  And the idiot conservatives can't seem to grasp the folly in that. Makes me ashamed to say I'm Republican. If Trump is such a bad candidate, then they should have put their weight behind whoever they thought was a good candidate. If the RNC had expended half the effort they've spent in denigrating Trump after his nomination on a better candidate during the primaries, they wouldn't be in this pickle. It just further proves two points: 1, voters are pissed off at the status quo of the present establishment and whoever they put forth as their candidate; and 2, the RNC is almost as out of touch with the sentiment of the voters as the DNC. If so, I took it differently. I don't think he was referring to Trump supporters but to his FELLOW conservatives. I could be wrong but I think he was pointing out the folly of the RNC in general. True, I took it the same way, Rob. Wayne, not to split hairs, and I agree with you. The name calling is very juvenile, and I was as guilty as the next guy. But it still continues.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Jess from VA
|
 |
« Reply #30 on: August 05, 2016, 04:00:15 PM » |
|
Large numbers of people grew so disaffected and upset they lost the ability to reason effectively.
Yes, this describes Democrats perfectly. Indeed, there is no reason in them.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
mike72903
Guest
|
 |
« Reply #31 on: August 05, 2016, 04:05:47 PM » |
|
LOL, they can dish it out but they can't take it. A perfect case of the pot calling the kettle black 
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
Gavin_Sons
Member
    
Posts: 7109
VRCC# 32796
columbus indiana
|
 |
« Reply #32 on: August 05, 2016, 04:31:07 PM » |
|
LOL, they can dish it out but they can't take it. A perfect case of the pot calling the kettle black  Hahaha hahaha ha, see the sarcasm there? I'm sorry you cant see the truth and you support a bitch that breaks laws, gets innocent people killed and lies with every breath.
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|
Moonshot_1
|
 |
« Reply #33 on: August 05, 2016, 04:34:09 PM » |
|
His candidacy would be funny if it wasn't so serious  Even though I don't think he has a chance, it is very disturbing to me about what has happened to the leadership of a supposedly serious political party and how they lost control. I have an opinion about that that goes back to the Republican revolution started with the "Contract with America" which under the leadership of Newt Gingrich, radically changed Congress from a great deliberative body to one focused on raising money and PAC's. Raising money became the only focus and to do so they preyed on mankinds basest fears, preaching lies, doom and distruction. Large numbers of people grew so disaffected and upset they lost the ability to reason effectively. It's the typical result of emotional manipulation and thinking. My hope is that if Mrs. Clinton is elected she will follow through on her pledge to introduce a constitutional amendment to rein in the out of control money raising therefore offsetting some really bad Supreme Court decisions that have made Corporations "people" among others. What an odd and interesting alternate universe you live in!
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
Mike Luken
Cherokee, Ia. Former Iowa Patriot Guard Ride Captain
|
|
|
|
mike72903
Guest
|
 |
« Reply #34 on: August 05, 2016, 05:37:19 PM » |
|
His candidacy would be funny if it wasn't so serious  Even though I don't think he has a chance, it is very disturbing to me about what has happened to the leadership of a supposedly serious political party and how they lost control. I have an opinion about that that goes back to the Republican revolution started with the "Contract with America" which under the leadership of Newt Gingrich, radically changed Congress from a great deliberative body to one focused on raising money and PAC's. Raising money became the only focus and to do so they preyed on mankinds basest fears, preaching lies, doom and distruction. Large numbers of people grew so disaffected and upset they lost the ability to reason effectively. It's the typical result of emotional manipulation and thinking. My hope is that if Mrs. Clinton is elected she will follow through on her pledge to introduce a constitutional amendment to rein in the out of control money raising therefore offsetting some really bad Supreme Court decisions that have made Corporations "people" among others. What an odd and interesting alternate universe you live in! LOL, yes. One of facts, logic and reasoning
|
|
|
|
|
Logged
|
|
|
|
|