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« on: August 21, 2016, 09:48:46 AM » |
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I changed the low profile Pirelli rear tire I had on Chewie yesterday. Those things are harder than the not-low-profile ones like on regular Valkyries. If people have gaskets, I probably blew a couple  ... whew. Plus, the new Valkyrie's wheels are painted. I scratch them up when I change them. I'm thinking of buying my next tire over at Cycle Gear, bring over the wheel and let them mount it. Doing it that way will cost a lot more, and equates to a "reduction of independence"... anyone get tires mounted there? Home-made Chewie adapter... it actually rained a little the last couple of days  , so I won't complain about the humidly-fogged-up camera lens... The adapter cradles the bottom of the motor and fits to the shock link.  I put these screw-jacks under the engine guards, Chewie is stable...  De-scratch... blegghh on painted wheels, what were they smoking? I guess not many people change GoldWing tires with just a couple of tire irons...  Chewie's front wheel is so unbalanced that the regular amount of RideOn won't balance it. So I balanced just the wheel before I mounted it (the front tire is easy to take on and off). I went ahead and did the same on the rear, I'll just submit to having ugly weights on there. I don't need weights on my regular Valkyrie, RideOn does the trick there, but when I used weights, it was those nice clip-on weights. Only stick-on weights work on new-Valkyrie wheels... Are there wheel-shops that will turn (or whatever) your wheels so that they are balanced? -Mike
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« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2016, 10:19:29 AM » |
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Mike, it depends on the shop.
My guy, when I ask, will take the time to move the tire around on the wheel a couple times to use the least weight possible. My GATTs car tires in back are nearly perfectly balanced new, so only a little wight for the wheel is necessary.
Rear bike tires used to take more tries.
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« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2016, 10:32:09 AM » |
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Mike, it depends on the shop.
My guy, when I ask, will take the time to move the tire around on the wheel a couple times to use the least weight possible. My GATTs car tires in back are nearly perfectly balanced new, so only a little wight for the wheel is necessary.
Rear bike tires used to take more tries.
I don't know how they'd do it, turning on a lathe is just something that popped into my imagination, but what I'm wondering is if there's people in custom wheel shops that could "do something" to a wheel (sans tire) so that the wheel would be balanced. Lots of tires today need almost no extra balancing, and RideOn takes care of that... -Mike
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« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2016, 10:55:09 AM » |
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Well the (Honda) shop has some kind of electronic balancer, and I'm not allowed back there to watch (anymore).
When I did watch, he was not balancing the wheel first. Tire was on wheel at some start point (dot or no dot), and he checked balance. If it was a bunch of weights to balance, he would take the shrader out again, let the air out, break the bead and move the tire 180 or so, and do it again; to see if it balanced with less weight. Maybe a third time. He's good, and busy, and I didn't ask a lot of questions to slow him down. Some of it maybe be voodoo.
I've never used Ride-On, but probably should. (wouldn't use beads)
He's done every tire on both bikes for a number of years, and I've never had a balance issue. I call him direct on his Cphone (not the service mgr) and make a Sat appointment at his convenience. Then I'm in and out.
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« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2016, 11:22:24 AM » |
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Cycle Gear will also price match online pricing. I think they now charge $35 for a tire change with balance.
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« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2016, 11:46:53 AM » |
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I have to ask, why is the newspaper on the tire?
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« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2016, 11:49:11 AM » |
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I have to ask, why is the newspaper on the tire?
It looks like he painted over the scratches he put on the rim.
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« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2016, 01:10:40 PM » |
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I have to ask, why is the newspaper on the tire?
It looks like he painted over the scratches he put on the rim. My father was a sign painter. I remember him painting the sidewalls of the tires on his truck after he'd wash it (back in the 60's)... I just sand away at my scratches a little with 1000 grit, clean the surface real good, cover the rubber (don't want to paint my sidewalls  ) and spritz a little Krylon on there... -Mike
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« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2016, 01:12:35 PM » |
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I have to ask, why is the newspaper on the tire?
It looks like he painted over the scratches he put on the rim. My father was a sign painter. I remember him painting the sidewalls of the tires on his truck after he'd wash it (back in the 60's)... I just sand away at my scratches a little with 1000 grit, clean the surface real good, cover the rubber (don't want to paint my sidewalls  ) and spritz a little Krylon on there... -Mike It matches real well. 
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« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2016, 05:20:11 PM » |
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Cycle Gear will also price match online pricing. I think they now charge $35 for a tire change with balance.
Thanks, been lookin' for someone to mount a front tire for the Wing. Everybody here wants $40/$45 + tax. Some also want a disposal fee. Cheapest I found shocked me, dealer at $34.08 all in, but you could spend a whole Sat. there waiting. I'll give Cycle Gear a call 
P.S. Actually, I called Wheeler's over near Robinsville, Nc. by accident & he said $20 carry in.
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« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2016, 06:05:53 PM » |
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Cycle Gear will also price match online pricing. I think they now charge $35 for a tire change with balance.
Thanks, been lookin' for someone to mount a front tire for the Wing. Everybody here wants $40/$45 + tax. Some also want a disposal fee. Cheapest I found shocked me, dealer at $34.08 all in, but you could spend a whole Sat. there waiting. I'll give Cycle Gear a call 
P.S. Actually, I called Wheeler's over near Robinsville, Nc. by accident & he said $20 carry in.Cycle Gear is carry in as well. Wheeler's is a good place.
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« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2016, 06:19:14 PM » |
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Cycle Gear will also price match online pricing. I think they now charge $35 for a tire change with balance.
$35 and a drive over to Greenville doesn't sound so bad. They do claim to price match... https://www.cyclegear.com/best-price-guaranteeThey won't price match Amazon but I think they will price match Jake Wilson... They've been nice to me numerous times. People who change tires often have some clip on weights that have been removed from wheels they've balanced... years ago I asked the Cycle Gear guy if he had any of those nice ones like Honda used on the original Valkyries, and rooted around in there and gave me a handful. The other day I needed stick-on weights and went there because they had them on their web page. They didn't have any in stock, so they just gave me about 25 new ones from their mounting station... -Mike
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« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2016, 06:21:57 PM » |
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I use a local car tire place. Mr Sanchez charges me $20 including disposal for a carry in.
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« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2016, 06:37:52 PM » |
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I use a local car tire place. Mr Sanchez charges me $20 including disposal for a carry in.
Lucky Dog! I've called every car tire place in town too, no one will touch it. Thinkin' 'bout wearing tire over to Wheeler's & tearin' it down in parking lot 
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« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2016, 06:50:36 PM » |
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I have a local car tire place that has a guy that does nothing but MC's and they do it for $20 carry in plus $2 disposal no tax.
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« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2016, 07:12:29 PM » |
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Local tire guy, charges $10, carry in. Mike next time forget the jack, just lay bike on its side, remove tire. Changed rear tire on Wing last month, easy peasy.
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« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2016, 07:31:52 PM » |
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Local tire guy, charges $10, carry in. Mike next time forget the jack, just lay bike on its side, remove tire. Changed rear tire on Wing last month, easy peasy.
I've watched them do that on Utoob. Jacking the bike is easy-peasy enough, thanks  ... -Mike
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« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2016, 06:20:22 AM » |
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OK, I just went and mounted the wheel on the bike. It's Monday morning. Sunday mostly amounted to going to Church, eating at Fuddrucker's, taking a nap and then watching another episode of that British show "The Last Kingdom". I think I worked too hard on Saturday My new front tire is a 120/70 19, instead of a 130/60 19, since there's almost no choices in that size. Both new tires are Avons. Both have that "ZR" rating. Harley V-Rods also have this weirdo tire size (130/60) and Avon recommends my tire for them, must be good for me too: 120/70ZR-19 = Harley-Davidson V-Rod Smokin' Joe gave Chewie her nickname - she eats tires... we'll see how these do... off to work to test them out. -Mike
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« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2016, 07:59:34 AM » |
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New rubber muy good  -Mike
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« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2016, 09:48:17 AM » |
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Yep, those "ZR" tires are great, but they don't last long. Jus' ordered one for the Wing, I'll be thrilled if I get 8K!
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« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2016, 11:37:48 AM » |
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New rubber muy good  -Mike I thought Avons were made in Great Britain not Spain. 
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« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2016, 03:20:11 PM » |
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New rubber muy good  -Mike I thought Avons were made in Great Britain not Spain.  Oh yes... New rubber has things bloody sorted! -Mike
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« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2016, 03:23:36 PM » |
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My forks seem different, I'll have to compare to your Wing, or someone's Wing, at the meet-in-the-middle ride... I think I really like the tire that's on there now, and there's a bunch of tires to choose from in 120/70 19... I wonder if the Wing bag-tip-over guard would fit on my bike? My sub-frame is different, so probably not... -Mike
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