Mr Trump acting badly

[DK]

So, tell me what is worse.  A guy taking money from a campaign fund and putting it into his own campaign, or someone setting up a "non profit foundation" that funnels money into their own pocket?

I keep hearing this. Can someone explain or point to an explanation of how they are getting money from their foundation ?

It is important to keep in mind what the Clinton Foundation mainly does: It does precious little in the way of actual philanthropy ($9 million worth out of $140 million in revenue for 2013) but instead spends almost all of its money on salaries and travel expenses for various Clintons (including Chelsea Clinton, now its vice chairman), Democratic allies, toadies, flunkies, hangers-on, and assorted minions. It is a full-employment sinecure program for friends and family of the Clinton political operation, and very little more.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/439258/hillary-clinton-huma-abedin-troubling-questions-influence-peddling-corruption

For an objective assessment of the statement quoted above, see:

http://www.nationalmemo.com/pay-for-play-the-scandal-is-judicial-watch-misleading-gullible-media/

I don't understand why the general section is not more directed to motorcycle related topics or other non-divisive matters of general interest to the larger membership as a whole rather than a small group dwelling on rehashing second hand information originating in large part from the alt.right website.

Perhaps after the election the General Board will become more motorcycle related.

[baldo]

So, tell me what is worse.  A guy taking money from a campaign fund and putting it into his own campaign, or someone setting up a "non profit foundation" that funnels money into their own pocket?

I keep hearing this. Can someone explain or point to an explanation of how they are getting money from their foundation ?

It is important to keep in mind what the Clinton Foundation mainly does: It does precious little in the way of actual philanthropy ($9 million worth out of $140 million in revenue for 2013) but instead spends almost all of its money on salaries and travel expenses for various Clintons (including Chelsea Clinton, now its vice chairman), Democratic allies, toadies, flunkies, hangers-on, and assorted minions. It is a full-employment sinecure program for friends and family of the Clinton political operation, and very little more.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/439258/hillary-clinton-huma-abedin-troubling-questions-influence-peddling-corruption

For an objective assessment of the statement quoted above, see:

http://www.nationalmemo.com/pay-for-play-the-scandal-is-judicial-watch-misleading-gullible-media/

I don't understand why the general section is not more directed to motorcycle related topics or other non-divisive matters of general interest to the larger membership as a whole rather than a small group dwelling on rehashing second hand information originating in large part from the alt.right website.

Perhaps after the election the General Board will become more motorcycle related.

There have been many requests to have a separate board for political posts.  It doesn't seem to get much traction.

[DirtyDan]

I like it just the way it is.

Dan

[Skinhead]

Don't read what doesn't interest you.  Simple.

[MP]

Don't read what doesn't interest you.  Simple.

Agreed.  For the vast majority of the political posts, one knows from the title what it contains, and where the discussion will go.  Just DO NOT OPEN if you do not want to read that stuff.  How simple is that?

Must be hard for some.  They prefer opening, what they do not want to read, and then bitching about the fact that someone posted it here!

If the title does not give a clue, the first post ALWAYS does.  STOP READING AND CLOSE IT!

Simple.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Maybe what DK is hoping for is a little more civility, honesty, and motorcycles after the election. Personally I don't think there is a snowballs chance in hell for that. I fear it's going to be even uglier around here after November .

[mike72903]

Don't read what doesn't interest you.  Simple.

Agreed.  For the vast majority of the political posts, one knows from the title what it contains, and where the discussion will go.  Just DO NOT OPEN if you do not want to read that stuff.  How simple is that?

Must be hard for some.  They prefer opening, what they do not want to read, and then bitching about the fact that someone posted it here!

If the title does not give a clue, the first post ALWAYS does.  STOP READING AND CLOSE IT!

Simple.

+1.  This has worked for me.

[Rams]

Maybe what DK is hoping for is a little more civility, honesty, and motorcycles after the election. Personally I don't think there is a snowballs chance in hell for that. I fear it's going to be even uglier around here after November .

I tend to agree.

I suspect that this board will go nuts either way after this upcoming election.   Neither viable candidate is going to please the opposing group.    

What I don't understand are the cries for motorcycle only topics.    While this is a motorcycle board and we all have that in common, we are not just motorcyclist.    Our lives and the rules we live by and ride by are affected by other things.   Politics being one of the biggies.     I also love to read about a lot of the other things that are posted about on this board, family stuff, trips, trucks, Daniel Myers home restoration and his stories, guns stories,  you name it.   If we're going to make this a motorcycle related topic only then, all those things need to disappear also.    That would make this a pretty boring board in my opinion.    If this was a motorcycle only discussion board, then we'd be more like an ostrich (with it's head buried in the sand) than motorcyclist who live for life in the saddle but spend most of our lives dealing with stuff off of our bikes.

I love my Valkyrie as does just about every person who ever rode one but, to only discuss motorcycles would make this a boring place to come and would IMHO cause participation to drop dramatically.   IOWs, I choose to not be an ostrich and look forward to reading what other's think whether or not I agree or not.    

Maybe, the Admin folks should consider an icon or something that would let those not interested in a political threads up front (maybe a flaming flag of the opposed party   ).    If reading the topic isn't satisfying enough to let the reader know.   Read the topics you like and let others read the ones they like.   Oh yeah, no more knocking HDs, that might start a bad karma discussion.    

[MP]

Maybe what DK is hoping for is a little more civility, honesty, and motorcycles after the election. Personally I don't think there is a snowballs chance in hell for that. I fear it's going to be even uglier around here after November .

We will all make our contribution, as I know you will as well.

[DK]

Maybe what DK is hoping for is a little more civility, honesty, and motorcycles after the election. Personally I don't think there is a snowballs chance in hell for that. I fear it's going to be even uglier around here after November .

Maybe what DK is hoping for is a little more civility, honesty, and motorcycles after the election. Personally I don't think there is a snowballs chance in hell for that. I fear it's going to be even uglier around here after November .

We will all make our contribution, as I know you will as well.

One primary concern I have is that we are embarking on a course of becoming distinct sides of voliatile issues which are only going to become more intense and hostile as time goes on after the election when multiple current debatable issues become every day disputes.

For the vast majority of forum members who ascribe to conventional norms of society and keep their feelings concerning religion, politics & dogs to themselves, the current climate is becoming more and more something to avoid. It is unfortunate that the disdain for this situation will carry over and adversely affect the tech section in terms of contribution, utilization and association of technical suggestions with the political persuasion of particular individuals. Just because these silent people remain silent doesn't mean that they don't possess strong feelings on the issues. Personally, I too often forget my father's repeated advice to simply keep my mouth shut and walk away and even when I do, I form an opinion that stays with me and in today's political climate, many of the opinions we are forming toward one another aren't very nice in spite of our denials thereof.

Another major concern I have is that this situation is significantly contributing to VRCC Lite, better known as Facebook. FB accommodates pictures much easier and also lends itself to casual social interaction but does not foster forming personal long lasting relationships or encourage participation of VRCC events. 

The growth of FB VRCC is by definition detracting from our tech section. It is my opinion that FB people will resort to our tech section as a resource to solve a complex problem, but they generally do not participate or contribute to the section. This leads directly to the related problem of a declining and aging membership, especially in terms of knowledge and experience competing against an alternate version of the forum much more attractive to younger Valk riders who do not contribute to longevity & permanence of the forum as we know it. 

Perhaps, based on the above and the relatively small numbers participating in political discussion together with the magnitude of other problems we face, we should revisit the idea of establishing a separate section.

Another reason favoring establishing a separate section is that the political discussion generally consists of the same persons singing variations of the same song to the same choir and differing opinions are rarely rationally or politely discussed, but, to the contrary, are generally met with hostile condemnation.  As Trump's surrogate recently said, "...just using different words to say the same thing...." In a sense, it is becoming as moot and boring as last week's news, apart from someone having the temerity to question something.

And I'll be the first to admit that I'm primarily motivated to take the time  to draft this post by the unprecedented divisesment of Donald Trump who I personally consider to be clinically mentally unstable.

[..]

Maybe what DK is hoping for is a little more civility, honesty, and motorcycles after the election. Personally I don't think there is a snowballs chance in hell for that. I fear it's going to be even uglier around here after November .

Maybe what DK is hoping for is a little more civility, honesty, and motorcycles after the election. Personally I don't think there is a snowballs chance in hell for that. I fear it's going to be even uglier around here after November .

We will all make our contribution, as I know you will as well.

One primary concern I have is that we are embarking on a course of becoming distinct sides of voliatile issues which are only going to become more intense and hostile as time goes on after the election when multiple current debatable issues become every day disputes.

For the vast majority of forum members who ascribe to conventional norms of society and keep their feelings concerning religion, politics & dogs to themselves, the current climate is becoming more and more something to avoid. It is unfortunate that the disdain for this situation will carry over and adversely affect the tech section in terms of contribution, utilization and association of technical suggestions with the political persuasion of particular individuals. Just because these silent people remain silent doesn't mean that they don't possess strong feelings on the issues. Personally, I too often forget my father's repeated advice to simply keep my mouth shut and walk away and even when I do, I form an opinion that stays with me and in today's political climate, many of the opinions we are forming toward one another aren't very nice in spite of our denials thereof.

Another major concern I have is that this situation is significantly contributing to VRCC Lite, better known as Facebook. FB accommodates pictures much easier and also lends itself to casual social interaction but does not foster forming personal long lasting relationships or encourage participation of VRCC events. 

The growth of FB VRCC is by definition detracting from our tech section. It is my opinion that FB people will resort to our tech section as a resource to solve a complex problem, but they generally do not participate or contribute to the section. This leads directly to the related problem of a declining and aging membership, especially in terms of knowledge and experience competing against an alternate version of the forum much more attractive to younger Valk riders who do not contribute to longevity & permanence of the forum as we know it. 

Perhaps, based on the above and the relatively small numbers participating in political discussion together with the magnitude of other problems we face, we should revisit the idea of establishing a separate section.

Another reason favoring establishing a separate section is that the political discussion generally consists of the same persons singing variations of the same song to the same choir and differing opinions are rarely rationally or politely discussed, but, to the contrary, are generally met with hostile condemnation.  As Trump's surrogate recently said, "...just using different words to say the same thing...." In a sense, it is becoming as moot and boring as last week's news, apart from someone having the temerity to question something.

And I'll be the first to admit that I'm primarily motivated to take the time  to draft this post by the unprecedented divisesment of Donald Trump who I personally consider to be clinically mentally unstable.


Doing so well until the last sentence when you jump head first into the same pit you complain about.

Ho hum.

[baldo]

 

What I don't understand are the cries for motorcycle only topics.    While this is a motorcycle board and we all have that in common, we are not just motorcyclist.    Our lives and the rules we live by and ride by are affected by other things.   Politics being one of the biggies.     I also love to read about a lot of the other things that are posted about on this board, family stuff, trips, trucks, Daniel Myers home restoration and his stories, guns stories,  you name it.   If we're going to make this a motorcycle related topic only then, all those things need to disappear also.    That would make this a pretty boring board in my opinion.    If this was a motorcycle only discussion board, then we'd be more like an ostrich (with it's head buried in the sand) than motorcyclist who live for life in the saddle but spend most of our lives dealing with stuff off of our bikes.

I love my Valkyrie as does just about every person who ever rode one but, to only discuss motorcycles would make this a boring place to come and would IMHO cause participation to drop dramatically.   IOWs, I choose to not be an ostrich and look forward to reading what other's think whether or not I agree or not.    

Ron, I think when the term 'motorcycle only' is used, it means everything else but politics and other controversial subjects.

I know some members here are also on the NGW website. They don't have this problem over there. They just don't allow any unpleasant posts, political or otherwise. It seems to work well....they don't even cuss.

[baldo]

And I'll be the first to admit that I'm primarily motivated to take the time  to draft this post by the unprecedented divisesment of Donald Trump who I personally consider to be clinically mentally unstable.


Doing so well until the last sentence when you jump head first into the same pit you complain about.

Ho hum.

Uh oh....now you did it DK....I'm afraid you're now on the persona non grata list....

[..]

And I'll be the first to admit that I'm primarily motivated to take the time  to draft this post by the unprecedented divisesment of Donald Trump who I personally consider to be clinically mentally unstable.


Doing so well until the last sentence when you jump head first into the same pit you complain about.

Ho hum.

Uh oh....now you did it DK....I'm afraid you're now on the persona non grata list....

Once again I ask you to stop your assumptions about my posts on this forum.

Got it?

Doubt if you ever will with your self important know all ego.

[Rams]

What I don't understand are the cries for motorcycle only topics.    While this is a motorcycle board and we all have that in common, we are not just motorcyclist.    Our lives and the rules we live by and ride by are affected by other things.   Politics being one of the biggies.     I also love to read about a lot of the other things that are posted about on this board, family stuff, trips, trucks, Daniel Myers home restoration and his stories, guns stories,  you name it.   If we're going to make this a motorcycle related topic only then, all those things need to disappear also.    That would make this a pretty boring board in my opinion.    If this was a motorcycle only discussion board, then we'd be more like an ostrich (with it's head buried in the sand) than motorcyclist who live for life in the saddle but spend most of our lives dealing with stuff off of our bikes.

I love my Valkyrie as does just about every person who ever rode one but, to only discuss motorcycles would make this a boring place to come and would IMHO cause participation to drop dramatically.   IOWs, I choose to not be an ostrich and look forward to reading what other's think whether or not I agree or not.    

Ron, I think when the term 'motorcycle only' is used, it means everything else but politics and other controversial subjects.

I know some members here are also on the NGW website. They don't have this problem over there. They just don't allow any unpleasant posts, political or otherwise. It seems to work well....they don't even cuss.

While I do understand that, it makes little difference.    Pissing contests can and do erupt over little things all the time.    Another forum I participate in uses member ratings to decide when someone has gone too far.    Generally, one can say anything they want as long as they do it in a civil manner.   Uncivil behavior is rewarded very quickly.   I have my doubts Admin would allow such a system here.   But, the entire forum is administered by one man.   He rarely has to intervene.   In fact, I rarely see him on that forum.   And yes, political discussions are allowed and heatedly debated.

All aspects of life can and should be considered and discussed IMHO.   We are a group with a love affair with a lady.   We love riding her in the wind.   But, once we get past that, there is more to life and most things can be discussed in an adult manner.    I do love my lady Valkyrie but, she is not my only interest.    I feel like several other folks are trying to win my appointed position of "Official PITA".    I've got news for you, this titled must be earned.  And, I'm a long time expert.   Don't Tread On Me.  

[Wizzard]

Additionally ,, why do we have to be like another board?
Last time I checked , no one begged me to be here?
If I do not like this board I can easily leave.

[Rams]

Additionally ,, why do we have to be like another board?

No one suggested that we have to be like another board.   But, the comparison has been made to FB and other boards before.    If, there's a better way, one might want to consider the possibility.   Not my call.  The group of people that own this website have the controls.

[baldo]

And I'll be the first to admit that I'm primarily motivated to take the time  to draft this post by the unprecedented divisesment of Donald Trump who I personally consider to be clinically mentally unstable.


Doing so well until the last sentence when you jump head first into the same pit you complain about.

Ho hum.

Uh oh....now you did it DK....I'm afraid you're now on the persona non grata list....

Once again I ask you to stop your assumptions about my posts on this forum.

Got it?

Doubt if you ever will with your self important know all ego.

Right back atcha. I didn't even mention you or your name. It was a general statement. Who's
 got the self important thing goin on now?

[MP]

And I'll be the first to admit that I'm primarily motivated to take the time  to draft this post by the unprecedented divisesment of Donald Trump who I personally consider to be clinically mentally unstable.

And there you go!  Doing EXACTLY what you decry we should NOT be doing!  The Kettle, calling the Pot, Black. 

Wait, has that become a Racist word too?

[Valkorado]

Quote from DK:
"It is unfortunate that the disdain for this situation will carry over and adversely affect the tech section in terms of contribution, utilization and association of technical suggestions with the political persuasion of particular individuals".


I don't see that happening.  The tech section has always been neutral ground.  There are some who frequent tech board and rarely if ever visit the general board.  When I'm needing Valk help I could give a hoot about the political persuasion of those providing it, and I always appreciate the replies.  

[baldo]

I don't see that happening.  The tech section has always been neutral ground.  There are some who frequent tech board and rarely if ever visit the general board.  When I'm needing Valk help I could give a hoot about the political persuasion of those providing it, and I always appreciate the replies.  

Same here. It's nice that the Tech section stays clean.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Quote from DK:
"It is unfortunate that the disdain for this situation will carry over and adversely affect the tech section in terms of contribution, utilization and association of technical suggestions with the political persuasion of particular individuals".


I don't see that happening.  The tech section has always been neutral ground.  There are some who frequent tech board and rarely if ever visit the general board.  When I'm needing Valk help I could give a hoot about the political persuasion of those providing it, and I always appreciate the replies.  

The problem though is, if we keep turning off our dwindling number of members there won't be the the wherewithal to keep the Tech Board going.

[Robert]

I remember when OZ himself declared the board would be dead soon since they stopped making the Valk. As long as the Valk is around there will be a tech section since all the topics have been talked about time and time again yet there are always new tech questions since some still do have problems with their bikes and need help. We do have alot of knowledgeable people here and they are not only helpful but actually care.

I have not spoken to one person here about politics that I would not want to ride with.

 We all meet people in our lives that we dont feel the same about things but does that make that person bad, NO. We dont really understand who we are writing to unless we have spent some time with them.  I'm sure in person there may be some hard feelings in some discussions but when you get out on the road then that would fade away and we would see the real side of those we converse with. I have not gone to an Inzane and am looking forward to the day when I can. I hope I will get to meet some that we have had discussions with and laugh together. So how do you keep a board going about a bike that has been discontinued for 16 years?  In reality its a board, we write and understand someone in a very narrow frame of reference. So if we cannot take that and understand that then maybe we are not the people we think we are. I hope the board would always continue and grow in numbers, but no matter what is talked about people change, interests change, and people go their way. So who is to say what works and what doesn't? I ride everyday, but do I come here and share my rides, sometimes, but hell I come and listen to what the commies say about politics.  . This is only one small part of anyone s life so who knows what the attraction is. Do I like hearing about rides and places, YES. Do I like hearing about politics, YES. Do I like the community here, YES. Would I want to change it, NO. does it change, YES. So the variance in the board is what makes it a community or family since I have never seen a family that doesn't talk garbage sometimes and yet remembers at the end of the day we are all just riding from one place to another.

[baldo]

I remember when OZ himself declared the board would be dead soon since they stopped making the Valk. As long as the Valk is around there will be a tech section since all the topics have been talked about time and time again yet there are always new tech questions since some still do have problems with their bikes and need help. We do have alot of knowledgeable people here and they are not only helpful but actually care.

I have not spoken to one person here about politics that I would not want to ride with.

 We all meet people in our lives that we dont feel the same about things but does that make that person bad, NO. We dont really understand who we are writing to unless we have spent some time with them.  I'm sure in person there may be some hard feelings in some discussions but when you get out on the road then that would fade away and we would see the real side of those we converse with. I have not gone to an Inzane and am looking forward to the day when I can. I hope I will get to meet some that we have had discussions with and laugh together. So how do you keep a board going about a bike that has been discontinued for 16 years?  In reality its a board, we write and understand someone in a very narrow frame of reference. So if we cannot take that and understand that then maybe we are not the people we think we are. I hope the board would always continue and grow in numbers, but no matter what is talked about people change, interests change, and people go their way. So who is to say what works and what doesn't? I ride everyday, but do I come here and share my rides, sometimes, but hell I come and listen to what the commies say about politics.  . This is only one small part of anyone s life so who knows what the attraction is. Do I like hearing about rides and places, YES. Do I like hearing about politics, YES. Do I like the community here, YES. Would I want to change it, NO. does it change, YES. So the variance in the board is what makes it a community or family since I have never seen a family that doesn't talk garbage sometimes and yet remembers at the end of the day we are all just riding from one place to another.

Well said.

[3fan4life]

I fear it's going to be even uglier around here after November .

You're probably correct, I suspect that there will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth.

  Liberals don't accept defeat very well. 

[Wizzard]

I have had strong  disagreements here with folks I would ride with any day. I do not expect people to agree with me. I do not separate out friends either by color or by political convictions or religion.

[The emperor has no clothes]

I have had strong  disagreements here with folks I would ride with any day. I do not expect people to agree with me. I do not separate out friends either by color or by political convictions or religion.

[3fan4life]

I know some members here are also on the NGW website. They don't have this problem over there. They just don't allow any unpleasant posts, political or otherwise. It seems to work well....they don't even cuss.

So what you're saying is, That you're willing to play nice in their sandbox but not in ours.

[baldo]

I know some members here are also on the NGW website. They don't have this problem over there. They just don't allow any unpleasant posts, political or otherwise. It seems to work well....they don't even cuss.

So what you're saying is, That you're willing to play nice in their sandbox but not in ours.

Where do you get that? I made the statement that another website runs things differently. That's all I said, nothing else. Why do you have to take it there?

[Willow]

I remember when OZ himself declared the board would be dead soon since they stopped making the Valk. As long as the Valk is around there will be a tech section since all the topics have been talked about time and time again yet there are always new tech questions since some still do have problems with their bikes and need help. We do have alot of knowledgeable people here and they are not only helpful but actually care.

I have not spoken to one person here about politics that I would not want to ride with.

 We all meet people in our lives that we dont feel the same about things but does that make that person bad, NO. We dont really understand who we are writing to unless we have spent some time with them.  I'm sure in person there may be some hard feelings in some discussions but when you get out on the road then that would fade away and we would see the real side of those we converse with. I have not gone to an Inzane and am looking forward to the day when I can. I hope I will get to meet some that we have had discussions with and laugh together. So how do you keep a board going about a bike that has been discontinued for 16 years?  In reality its a board, we write and understand someone in a very narrow frame of reference. So if we cannot take that and understand that then maybe we are not the people we think we are. I hope the board would always continue and grow in numbers, but no matter what is talked about people change, interests change, and people go their way. So who is to say what works and what doesn't? I ride everyday, but do I come here and share my rides, sometimes, but hell I come and listen to what the commies say about politics.   . This is only one small part of anyone s life so who knows what the attraction is. Do I like hearing about rides and places, YES. Do I like hearing about politics, YES. Do I like the community here, YES. Would I want to change it, NO. does it change, YES. So the variance in the board is what makes it a community or family since I have never seen a family that doesn't talk garbage sometimes and yet remembers at the end of the day we are all just riding from one place to another.

Robert, it may seem to make sense to you but you miss several points.

A lot of us believe anyone who disagrees with us socially or politically is obviously either ignorant or stupid.  We don't communicate that way in person.  In person some of us, maybe even most of us, have learned to disagree and discuss with respect.  On the message board we have a small number of people who regularly communicate disrespectfully.  A lot of us do so once we get out ire fed.  We have a small number of people who insist upon continually cramming their viewpoint repeatedly which they know irritates a subset of the members.  These people do nothing to change anyone's mind.  Let me repeat they do nothing at all to change the balance between believers and disbelievers in their perspective.  What they do is continually spew their bad breath into the environment making it uncomfortable for some.

It would be nice to believe that folks who don't want to be exposed to this crap would simply choose to not read it.  It just doesn't work that way.  The larger number of people will simply decide they don't want to be irritated so often that way and they will just walk away.  It's happening.  Even if one does show the good judgement to avoid opening divisive threads we have a few members who can't resist inserting their divisive comments into completely unrelated threads.

It's poison.  There may be some who disagree commenting that the most visited threads are these poison posts.  What we may want to look at is the small subset of participants who are repeatedly posting in these threads. The life of the message board is made up not only of how many people post but on how many people choose to read.

Interestingly, the majority of these divisive posters don't tend to attend InZane.

There was a time when, like Robert, I would have been pleased to ride with anyone of this community whether we agree on a lot or a little.  Those days have passed. There is a small handful of members that I have become irritated enough with over their damage to the community that I would not feel like sharing a ride or carrying on a conversation with them.  That's a shame and it could pass.  Who knows?  I may be getting closer to choosing to be one of those who simply chooses to walk away.

I believe it's a positive thing to have a "general" board where folks can talk about almost anything.  I believe that when it has been demonstrated that folks cannot carry on conversations respectfully regarding some subjects that those subjects should be excluded, either by choice or by rule.            

[Bighead]

And I'll be the first to admit that I'm primarily motivated to take the time  to draft this post by the unprecedented divisesment of Donald Trump who I personally consider to be clinically mentally unstable.


Doing so well until the last sentence when you jump head first into the same pit you complain about.

Ho hum.

Uh oh....now you did it DK....I'm afraid you're now on the persona non grata list....

Once again I ask you to stop your assumptions about my posts on this forum.

Got it?

Doubt if you ever will with your self important know all ego.

Right back atcha. I didn't even mention you or your name. It was a general statement. Who's
 got the self important thing goin on now?

You didn't have to use his name as you used his quote to make your statement how simple is it to assume who you were referring 

[3fan4life]

I know some members here are also on the NGW website. They don't have this problem over there. They just don't allow any unpleasant posts, political or otherwise. It seems to work well....they don't even cuss.

So what you're saying is, That you're willing to play nice in their sandbox but not in ours.

Where do you get that? I made the statement that another website runs things differently. That's all I said, nothing else. Why do you have to take it there?

You stated the rules there.

I assumed that since you hand first hand knowledge of them that you were a member there also.

I know that you don't always play well here.

Maybe it's possible that you just don't play well with others anywhere.

[..]

And I'll be the first to admit that I'm primarily motivated to take the time  to draft this post by the unprecedented divisesment of Donald Trump who I personally consider to be clinically mentally unstable.


Doing so well until the last sentence when you jump head first into the same pit you complain about.

Ho hum.

Uh oh....now you did it DK....I'm afraid you're now on the persona non grata list....

Once again I ask you to stop your assumptions about my posts on this forum.

Got it?

Doubt if you ever will with your self important know all ego.

Right back atcha. I didn't even mention you or your name. It was a general statement. Who's
 got the self important thing goin on now?

You include my words in your reply yet your comment doesn't refer to me?

Please be kind enough to let us know specifically whose list you think DK may now be included on.


Comprehension, reading and writing are skills that some are never able to fully embrace.

[baldo]

I fear it's going to be even uglier around here after November .

You're probably correct, I suspect that there will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth.

  Liberals don't accept defeat very well. 

Confucius say "we shall see what we shall see"

[baldo]

And I'll be the first to admit that I'm primarily motivated to take the time  to draft this post by the unprecedented divisesment of Donald Trump who I personally consider to be clinically mentally unstable.


Doing so well until the last sentence when you jump head first into the same pit you complain about.

Ho hum.

Uh oh....now you did it DK....I'm afraid you're now on the persona non grata list....

Once again I ask you to stop your assumptions about my posts on this forum.

Got it?

Doubt if you ever will with your self important know all ego.

Right back atcha. I didn't even mention you or your name. It was a general statement. Who's
 got the self important thing goin on now?

You include my words in your reply yet your comment doesn't refer to me?

Please be kind enough to let us know specifically whose list you think DK may now be included on.


Comprehension, reading and writing are skills that some are never able to fully embrace.

Lol...wow....it seems that touchy is the word of the day.

I guess the word 'the' means something else in your world. In mine it's used as a general term.

[baldo]

I know some members here are also on the NGW website. They don't have this problem over there. They just don't allow any unpleasant posts, political or otherwise. It seems to work well....they don't even cuss.

So what you're saying is, That you're willing to play nice in their sandbox but not in ours.

Where do you get that? I made the statement that another website runs things differently. That's all I said, nothing else. Why do you have to take it there?

You stated the rules there.

I assumed that since you hand first hand knowledge of them that you were a member there also.

I know that you don't always play well here.

Maybe it's possible that you just don't play well with others anywhere.

Maybe and maybe not. Let me say this. This is the only one of the several boards that I spend time on, that behaves like this. I find it amusing that you're getting all hot and bothered over such an innocuous statement as this. It was totally harmless, offering information, nothing more. Yet you want to make it something more, and not in a good way.

And your second word says it all.

[..]

And I'll be the first to admit that I'm primarily motivated to take the time  to draft this post by the unprecedented divisesment of Donald Trump who I personally consider to be clinically mentally unstable.


Doing so well until the last sentence when you jump head first into the same pit you complain about.

Ho hum.

Uh oh....now you did it DK....I'm afraid you're now on the persona non grata list....

Once again I ask you to stop your assumptions about my posts on this forum.

Got it?

Doubt if you ever will with your self important know all ego.

Right back atcha. I didn't even mention you or your name. It was a general statement. Who's
 got the self important thing goin on now?

You include my words in your reply yet your comment doesn't refer to me?

Please be kind enough to let us know specifically whose list you think DK may now be included on.


Comprehension, reading and writing are skills that some are never able to fully embrace.

Lol...wow....it seems that touchy is the word of the day.

I guess the word 'the' means something else in your world. In mine it's used as a general term.

In my world it can be quite specific.

Example.

Look what the (enter descriptor) wrote.  

[baldo]

In my world it can be quite specific.

Example.

Look what the (enter descriptor) wrote.  

So clever, and so early in the morning.

[Gavin_Sons]

I know some members here are also on the NGW website. They don't have this problem over there. They just don't allow any unpleasant posts, political or otherwise. It seems to work well....they don't even cuss.

So what you're saying is, That you're willing to play nice in their sandbox but not in ours.

Where do you get that? I made the statement that another website runs things differently. That's all I said, nothing else. Why do you have to take it there?

You stated the rules there.

I assumed that since you hand first hand knowledge of them that you were a member there also.

I know that you don't always play well here.

Maybe it's possible that you just don't play well with others anywhere.

Maybe and maybe not. Let me say this. This is the only one of the several boards that I spend time on, that behaves like this. I find it amusing that you're getting all hot and bothered over such an innocuous statement as this. It was totally harmless, offering information, nothing more. Yet you want to make it something more, and not in a good way.

And your second word says it all.

maybe you should stay away from here and stick with your other boards? That would solve 50% of our problems here  just a suggestion

[The emperor has no clothes]

Classy Gavin