So if not them, who then ?

[The emperor has no clothes]

I didn't want to hijack Solo1's thread any more than has already. But it got me thinking. In a more perfect world where you could pick the actual person you wanted as President, who would it be ? Limited to living people. I think I would pick Colin Powell. ( let's see if we can keep the bashing to a minimum) 

[old2soon]

I didn't want to hijack Solo1's thread any more than has already. But it got me thinking. In a more perfect world where you could pick the actual person you wanted as President, who would it be ? Limited to living people. I think I would pick Colin Powell. ( let's see if we can keep the bashing to a minimum) 

              +1 on Colin Powell but Condaleeza Rice comes to mind also. RIDE SAFE.

[Serk]

Ron Paul

Although I'd happily settle for his son Rand.

(that's just limiting it to people who have publicly pursued the job.)

[J.Mencalice]

General Wesley Clark (ret.) was my choice 12 years ago but I feel that time has passed him by.
Four less years of Bush and an alternative to Barack Obama would have altered the course of our country for the better, I believe.

[RDAbull]

Mitch Daniels.
He did a great job in Indiana.

[Patrick]

I saw what Mayor Rudy did with NYC, seemed that Kasich did a good job in congress and with Ohio, and, I liked Mitt Romney. There are others that would make a good president. I'm not sure why anyone would want that job though.
There are many that could fill that position. A career military person may do a good job there, but, I'm not really in favor of it.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Ron Paul

Although I'd happily settle for his son Rand.

(that's just limiting it to people who have publicly pursued the job.)

I think Rand would be better suited for the job than his Dad. 

[Pete]

My pick would be an honest non politician, non criminal (could be redundant) with no ties to any political party and has experience managing something that is significant. Some one that gets the job done and tells the truth no matter where the chips fall.

Some one who understands that the americans who wrote the constitution knew what they were saying and meant it.

There are a lot of good folks out there that fit this definition and I could happily vote for any one of them. Unfortunately NONE of them are currently running. And it is unlikely they will ever get the chance to do so.

As an american I am embarrassed by what career politicians have done.


 

[Serk]

A further thought:

Open a random phone book to a random page and randomly point to a name.

Make that person the president.

But don't tell them. Let them think they're on  reality TV show or something.

Really, we need to change it so the president has so little power that it doesn't matter who they are, instead of having so much power that it doesn't matter who they are.

(Last sentence plagiarized from Penn Jillette)

[Robert]

I would say WILLOW FOR PRESIDENT  At least he speaks his mind 

Other than that one of the Pauls

[The emperor has no clothes]

A further thought:

Open a random phone book to a random page and randomly point to a name.

Make that person the president.

But don't tell them. Let them think they're on  reality TV show or something.

Really, we need to change it so the president has so little power that it doesn't matter who they are, instead of having so much power that it doesn't matter who they are.

(Last sentence plagiarized from Penn Jillette)

Dude have you looked around and seen some of our citizens ? Perish the thought. And while having a system where the executive branch has minimal power might seem appealing, think of the inaction that would result. I'm glad FDR, Truman, Eisenhower were able to do things.

[Willow]

As an american I am embarrassed by what career politicians have done.

The very concept of career politician is in conflict with the concepts of the founding fathers.

I would concur with Colin Powell or Condeleeza Rice.  I'm sure there are any number of others I would gladly support.

LOL, Robert.  I have skeletons.  While it is important to state one's mind it may be more important that one's mind actually works.   

[The emperor has no clothes]

As an american I am embarrassed by what career politicians have done.

The very concept of career politician is in conflict with the concepts of the founding fathers.

I would concur with Colin Powell or Condeleeza Rice.  I'm sure there are any number of others I would gladly support.

LOL, Robert.  I have skeletons.  While it is important to state one's mind it may be more important that one's mind actually works.   

I think yours works. It's just that it works in such mysterious ways. 

[Serk]

I'm glad FDR, Truman, Eisenhower were able to do things.

I'm not.

Too much power concentrated in one person ends up with people being put into camps.

[RDAbull]

A further thought:

Open a random phone book to a random page and randomly point to a name.

Make that person the president.

But don't tell them. Let them think they're on  reality TV show or something.

Really, we need to change it so the president has so little power that it doesn't matter who they are, instead of having so much power that it doesn't matter who they are.

(Last sentence plagiarized from Penn Jillette)

Noted Conservative, William Buckley:  “I would rather be governed by the first 2000 people in the Manhattan phone book than the entire faculty of Harvard.”

I think that would go for the current batch of scum that rules now.

[Gryphon Rider]

I'd pick Stephen Harper, since being born in the US is no longer an issue.  Maybe Canadian citizenship is good enough to assuage any doubts about loyalty.   He has an impressive resume:
1.  Masters degree in economics.
2.  Nine years leading a G7 country, including the legislative and executive branches.
3.  Canadians are automatically liked by liberal Americans.
4.  He's actually a fiscal and social conservative, so conservative Americans who do their homework will like him.
5.  Has appointed eight different Supreme Court of Canada justices, and the country didn't implode.
6.  Has never been a reality TV star.
7.  He and his spouse have never cheated on one another, thus never had to lie about or help cover up dalliances.
8.  His hair, although it usually looks kind of plastic, like Lego hair, doesn't look like the top of his head is being ripped off when he's caught in a stiff breeze.



9.  Can sing and play piano.



10.  Cats like him (I guess this is only a plus for a certain percentage of people).



Also, he resigned his seat in Canada's House of Commons today, so he's available!

[The emperor has no clothes]

I'd pick Stephen Harper, since being born in the US is no longer an issue.  Maybe Canadian citizenship is good enough to assuage any doubts about loyalty.   He has an impressive resume:
1.  Masters degree in economics.
2.  Nine years leading a G7 country, including the legislative and executive branches.
3.  Canadians are automatically liked by liberal Americans.
4.  He's actually a fiscal and social conservative, so conservative Americans who do their homework will like him.
5.  Has appointed eight different Supreme Court of Canada justices, and the country didn't implode.
6.  Has never been a reality TV star.
7.  He and his spouse have never cheated on one another, thus never had to lie about or help cover up dalliances.
8.  His hair, although it usually looks kind of plastic, like Lego hair, doesn't look like the top of his head is being ripped off when he's caught in a stiff breeze.



9.  Can sing and play piano.



10.  Cats like him (I guess this is only a plus for a certain percentage of people).



Also, he resigned his seat in Canada's House of Commons today, so he's available!

I'm good with that. But #'s 3 and 4 will never fly with our members. 

[Rams]

A career military person may do a good job there, but, I'm not really in favor of it.

I'm curious as to why?   Some of the finest constitution loving people I've ever known were Senior Military Officers.   Though, not all are or were suited to be POTUS, any of them would be better than what we've currently got.

My pick would be an honest non politician, non criminal (could be redundant) with no ties to any political party and has experience managing something that is significant. Some one that gets the job done and tells the truth no matter where the chips fall.

Some one who understands that the americans who wrote the constitution knew what they were saying and meant it.

There are a lot of good folks out there that fit this definition and I could happily vote for any one of them. Unfortunately NONE of them are currently running. And it is unlikely they will ever get the chance to do so.

As an american I am embarrassed by what career politicians have done.

I'd have to put some thought into it but, General Powell is an exceptional person and leader although, I'm not sure he'd be my first pick.   Integrity would be the key for me and that eliminates most of the also rans.

[solo1]

I would personally like to see the nominees switched. Pence for prez and Trump vp.

Pence has done a good job for Indiana IMO, although some Rainbow and union people might say otherwise. Can't please everybody.

BTW, I shook Holcomb's hand the other day and didn't even know him.   He was at INDOT'S presentation of 1,000,000 bucks grant money to our city for streets.  Holcomb is the Lt. governor and is running to fill Pence's spot as governor.  

Indiana is kinda low key and free of debt.

[Valkorado]

I'd shake it up!     Bill Whittle for POTUS, Jeanine Pirro VP!

[Serk]

I'd shake it up!     Bill Whittle for POTUS, Jeanine Pirro VP!

Okay, THAT I could support!

[Skinhead]

David Wasko.

[Patrick]

A career military person may do a good job there, but, I'm not really in favor of it.

I'm curious as to why?   Some of the finest constitution loving people I've ever known were Senior Military Officers.   Though, not all are or were suited to be POTUS, any of them would be better than what we've currently got.

My pick would be an honest non politician, non criminal (could be redundant) with no ties to any political party and has experience managing something that is significant. Some one that gets the job done and tells the truth no matter where the chips fall.

Some one who understands that the americans who wrote the constitution knew what they were saying and meant it.

There are a lot of good folks out there that fit this definition and I could happily vote for any one of them. Unfortunately NONE of them are currently running. And it is unlikely they will ever get the chance to do so.

As an american I am embarrassed by what career politicians have done.

I'd have to put some thought into it but, General Powell is an exceptional person and leader although, I'm not sure he'd be my first pick.   Integrity would be the key for me and that eliminates most of the also rans.

I agree with you and probably for the same reasons.   But, I think just about anyone would be better than what we have now. And, what we are probably going to have come Nov.

[Jess from VA]

I used to like Powell a lot.  Then he endorsed the zero (both times, I think). 

That's enough to be off eveyone's list for life, and erases all his other good attributes.

Newt Gingrich would be a great president.

[..]

A further thought:

Open a random phone book to a random page and randomly point to a name.

Make that person the president.

But don't tell them. Let them think they're on  reality TV show or something.

Really, we need to change it so the president has so little power that it doesn't matter who they are, instead of having so much power that it doesn't matter who they are.

(Last sentence plagiarized from Penn Jillette)

Anyone seeking to have some much "power" over so many is suspect in my mind.

[CajunRider]

Politicians got us where we are now... so I would NOT choose ANY politician. 

Doesn't matter how good they SEEM to be. 

[FryeVRCCDS0067]

Rand Paul, 2nd choice would be his Dad.

[MP]

Right now, there is NO Republican, who the Dems would approve, that the Repubs would.  And vice versa.

Trump is as non political a candidate as I remember.  Because he has not been a politician his whole life, he makes mistakes that one who has been in politics tends not to make.  Mostly, it is called actually answering questions, and telling the truth.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Right now, there is NO Republican, who the Dems would approve, that the Repubs would.  And vice versa.

Trump is as non political a candidate as I remember.  Because he has not been a politician his whole life, he makes mistakes that one who has been in politics tends not to make.  Mostly, it is called actually answering questions, and telling the truth.

Like making fun of a handicapped person ?

[Valkorado]

Keeping the bashing to a minimum, I see.

[The emperor has no clothes]

Keeping the bashing to a minimum, I see.

Sorry, I didn't see it as bashing. MP said Trump was just answering questions and telling the truth. I asked him if that's how he viewed making fun of a handicapped person. Nothing more than that. 

[Wizzard]

Keeping the bashing to a minimum, I see.

Sorry, I didn't see it as bashing. MP said Trump was just answering questions and telling the truth. I asked him if that's how he viewed making fun of a handicapped person. Nothing more than that. 

Not defending him, but I really do not think that was his intent. He has made some mistakes and poor choices in his wording because he is not a professional politician, but at the same time that is what has made him as popular as he is. He is not politically correct and that is what many who identify with him like.

[Valkorado]

Bashing, baiting -- what difference does it make?

[The emperor has no clothes]

Bashing, baiting -- what difference does it make?

I guess our perceptions are 180* . I thought it was a simple question. 

[Valkorado]

This poster boy reporter was trying to belittle and harass Mr. Trump.  I could cite instances where Hillary was less than a peach to reporters that she considerd hostile to her. 

Of course, she avoids the press like the plaque.

[..]

So many who think they are capable of perfect grammar, speech, and spelling are so quick to point out the failings of others who don't have perfect grammar, speech and spelling.

I'll never know what it's like to be so god like.

[The emperor has no clothes]

So many who think they are capable of perfect grammar, speech, and spelling are so quick to point out the failings of others who don't have perfect grammar, speech and spelling.

I'll never know what it's like to be so god like.

???

[Smokinjoe-VRCCDS#0005]

Ted Nugent ... And no I'm not kidding .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClPNGQbZQBU

[MP]

Keeping the bashing to a minimum, I see.

Sorry, I didn't see it as bashing. MP said Trump was just answering questions and telling the truth. I asked him if that's how he viewed making fun of a handicapped person. Nothing more than that. 

And, so how is that different than VP "foot in mouth" Biden, calling on a disabled person in a wheel chair to "stand up"? Huh? 

Just can't keep away from the bashing, huh?

[MP]

Bashing, baiting -- what difference does it make?

I guess our perceptions are 180* . I thought it was a simple question. 

No baiting, no bashing, here is a simple question for you.

Why does Hillary LIE every time she opens her mouth?